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Post by aj2hall on Aug 14, 2022 2:26:03 GMT
Also, the owner of the store has changed his story multiple times and questioned the contents. The Washington Post did their own investigation and it's possible that files were added. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/12/now-warning-about-hunter-biden-laptop-disinfo-guy-who-leaked-it/www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/30/hunter-biden-laptop-data-examined/In October 2020 and now, there are a lot more questions than answers. But here are some important facts. Hunter Biden is under investigation by a Trump appointed US Attorney and has not yet been charged with anything. President Biden and his campaign or administration did not suppress any media from reporting. News outlets including Fox initially, chose to not report the laptop story because they couldn't independently verify it. NY Post refused to share the laptop. Twitter did suspend the NY Post. And the details in Chuck Grassley's letter are not facts, they have not been verified by anyone. And for various reasons, Chuck Grassley may not be a credible or objective source of information. Most of the conservative claims in this thread are opinion, speculation and in some cases, false. It’s sad that you and most others on this board think FJB’s kid is clean. Wake up. No one is saying that he's clean. He admits he was a drug addict. Did Hunter use his fathers name to help him in business? Probably. Did he do anything illegal? There's no evidence of that yet. If you're outraged about Hunter, where's your outrage about the Trump children? Hunter Biden is a private citizen, he never worked for the White House. Trump's children were massively unqualified but hired anyway and given security clearances they didn't meet. All of them profited off their father's position - Ivanka with a deal for her company, her father promoted her business, Jared received a $2 B Saudi investment despite the fact he's never managed a fund. When the family travelled, they stayed at Trump properties, the government spent millions of dollars at Trump properties. Where is your outrage at all of that? Outrage over Hillary's emails and Hunter Biden is enormously hypocritical given the Trump administration's mishandling of classified documents and the billions of dollars that his family and company profited from his position. |
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Post by Merge on Aug 14, 2022 2:33:52 GMT
This is just so very sad: I needed a diversion and know Merge can give as good as she gets - so really hoped this thread coykd distract me — unfortunately it’s just dumb -have a beer for merge Seriously. I came inside after spending the past 4.5 hours at a block party and saw the thread title change and assumed it would be good for some entertainment. Instead, it has just been the same stuff repeated over and over by multiple people now that the right-wing batphone call went out. Sigh. I’ll go have another beer in Merge’s honor. The Astros seem to have broken their curse when playing the As, so I’m a happy girl. Respect to your Nats as one of the teams that has handed us a World Series loss. 😂 Hoping to break that curse this year, too. (Didn’t want to insert the potentially controversial Astros love earlier. If anyone happens to be a Phillies or Red Sox fan, we are very appreciative of receiving Trey Mancini and Christian Vasquez, and I promise we’re taking good care of them.) |
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Post by elaine on Aug 14, 2022 2:39:02 GMT
Seriously. I came inside after spending the past 4.5 hours at a block party and saw the thread title change and assumed it would be good for some entertainment. Instead, it has just been the same stuff repeated over and over by multiple people now that the right-wing batphone call went out. Sigh. I’ll go have another beer in Merge’s honor. The Astros seem to have broken their curse when playing the As, so I’m a happy girl. Respect to your Nats as one of the teams that has handed us a World Series loss. 😂 Hoping to break that curse this year, too. (Didn’t want to insert the potentially controversial Astros love earlier. If anyone happens to be a Phillies or Red Sox fan, we are very appreciative of receiving Trey Mancini and Christian Vasquez, and I promise we’re taking good care of them.) I am very sad that I have not had time to go to a Nats game this year. ☹️ All the schoolwork I’ve had to do for my license (which has dragged on throughout the summer and will continue into the Fall) has put a serious damper on my baseball watching! I’m glad for you that the Astros are doing well. |
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Post by cindosha on Aug 14, 2022 2:39:28 GMT
It’s sad that you and most others on this board think FJB’s kid is clean. Wake up. No one is saying that he's clean. He admits he was a drug addict. Did Hunter use his fathers name to help him in business? Probably. Did he do anything illegal? There's no evidence of that yet. If you're outraged about Hunter, where's your outrage about the Trump children? Hunter Biden is a private citizen, he never worked for the White House. Trump's children were massively unqualified but hired anyway and given security clearances they didn't meet. All of them profited off their father's position - Ivanka with a deal for her company, her father promoted her business, Jared received a $2 B Saudi investment despite the fact he's never managed a fund. When the family travelled, they stayed at Trump properties, the government spent millions of dollars at Trump properties. Where is your outrage at all of that? Outrage over Hillary's emails and Hunter Biden is enormously hypocritical given the Trump administration's mishandling of classified documents and the billions of dollars that his family and company profited from his position. Every presidential family profits, even FJB’s. Politicians are inherently crooked. EVERY. LAST. ONE. OF. THEM. Trump was a businessman who ran this country like a business and did a great job of making us energy independent and EVERYONE had more money in their pockets. But I don’t remember reading about trumps kids making dirty deals with China and the Ukraine. But I remember hearing FJB’s kid in that respect. Funny… |
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 14, 2022 2:41:09 GMT
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Post by cindosha on Aug 14, 2022 2:41:13 GMT
pixiechick how old are you 5? Seriously, what a childish immature stunt you just pulled in changing the title of the thread. I’ve seen lots of people change the title of their thread. And it’s usually when they are bullied into it. |
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Post by pixiechick on Aug 14, 2022 2:42:37 GMT
After you liked pinklady's post attacking my mental health. I don't think so. Pinklady did not attack your mental health- give me a break, and who cares what people like, because again showing that if folks don't agree with you, they are bullies. What a lame excuse that you can't post any info about what you are claiming. I would like to see what info you are reading/gathering for your evidence? I like to read all sources of information. STOP TRYING TO REASON WITH THE MENTALLY CHALLENGED TROLLS! Samantha, that is not just disagreeing with someone. How do you NOT see that as insulting someone's mental health? I'm really curious to know how that thought process works. That you don't see the words that are actually insulting someone's mental health, as insulting someone's mental health. How does that happen? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2022 2:43:24 GMT
I don’t think Trump has dementia. But he does definitely have a personality disorder or two. Maybe you forgot about the time biden fell up the airplane steps THREE TIMES in the same trip. Dude is failing faster. Pence who is 16 years younger seems to go arse up on planes steps too. The new dementia criteria - falling up plane stairs |
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 14, 2022 2:47:59 GMT
No one is saying that he's clean. He admits he was a drug addict. Did Hunter use his fathers name to help him in business? Probably. Did he do anything illegal? There's no evidence of that yet. If you're outraged about Hunter, where's your outrage about the Trump children? Hunter Biden is a private citizen, he never worked for the White House. Trump's children were massively unqualified but hired anyway and given security clearances they didn't meet. All of them profited off their father's position - Ivanka with a deal for her company, her father promoted her business, Jared received a $2 B Saudi investment despite the fact he's never managed a fund. When the family travelled, they stayed at Trump properties, the government spent millions of dollars at Trump properties. Where is your outrage at all of that? Outrage over Hillary's emails and Hunter Biden is enormously hypocritical given the Trump administration's mishandling of classified documents and the billions of dollars that his family and company profited from his position. Every presidential family profits, even FJB’s. Politicians are inherently crooked. EVERY. LAST. ONE. OF. THEM. Trump was a businessman who ran this country like a business and did a great job of making us energy independent and EVERYONE had more money in their pockets. But I don’t remember reading about trumps kids making dirty deals with China and the Ukraine. But I remember hearing FJB’s kid in that respect. Funny… Did you forget? Ivanka received 7 trademarks from China for her company and Jared made a $2B deal with the Saudi's. And Trump ran the White House to line his own pockets with his best interests always foremost. Trump refused but previous presidents either divested or put their companies in blind trusts to avoid conflicts of interest. Trump had countless ethical violations and constantly broke presidential norms. Trying to compare Trump to Biden is ridiculous. Biden has tried to restore ethics to the White House. And again, Hunter does not work for the White House. www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/01/20/executive-order-ethics-commitments-by-executive-branch-personnel/Also for the record, we were not truly energy independent. We still imported oil and gas. We've had this discussion before, too. The actual facts don't seem to get in the way or stop you from repeating the same false information. |
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Post by samantha25 on Aug 14, 2022 2:49:01 GMT
Pinklady did not attack your mental health- give me a break, and who cares what people like, because again showing that if folks don't agree with you, they are bullies. What a lame excuse that you can't post any info about what you are claiming. I would like to see what info you are reading/gathering for your evidence? I like to read all sources of information. STOP TRYING TO REASON WITH THE MENTALLY CHALLENGED TROLLS! Samantha, that is not just disagreeing with someone. How do you NOT see that as insulting someone's mental health? I'm really curious to know how that thought process works. That you don't see the words that are actually insulting someone's mental health, as insulting someone's mental health. How does that happen? Whatever... lateskis
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 14, 2022 2:51:02 GMT
Pinklady did not attack your mental health- give me a break, and who cares what people like, because again showing that if folks don't agree with you, they are bullies. What a lame excuse that you can't post any info about what you are claiming. I would like to see what info you are reading/gathering for your evidence? I like to read all sources of information. STOP TRYING TO REASON WITH THE MENTALLY CHALLENGED TROLLS! Samantha, that is not just disagreeing with someone. How do you NOT see that as insulting someone's mental health? I'm really curious to know how that thought process works. That you don't see the words that are actually insulting someone's mental health, as insulting someone's mental health. How does that happen? A small, technical point that might not matter - I think she was insulting your cognitive abilities, not your mental health. |
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Post by pixiechick on Aug 14, 2022 2:57:37 GMT
Maybe you forgot about the time biden fell up the airplane steps THREE TIMES in the same trip. Dude is failing faster. Pence who is 16 years younger seems to go arse up on planes steps too. The new dementia criteria - falling up plane stairs Joe Biden, falling upstairs 3 times in a row. In the same moment. Jill actually physically moved a grown ass man into place. The president of the United States! Even she TREATS him like a man in a diminished mental state. I saw Biden trying to put his jacket on the other day. It was just short of a dog chasing his tail. The press guy talking about when he was recovering from covid the first time, he said that Joe actually held up his plate to show him he ate everything on his plate. Like a 3 year old. Thinking he's running for United States Senate, (twice) when he was running for president, rambling on about a guy named Cornpop while reminiscing about letting kids playing with his leg hair decades ago, repeatedly not understanding not to read the stage directions, standing trance like while holding an imaginary steering wheel? while looking off into the distance instead of looking at the the person asking you the question, saying "We're in the process of deciding what I think." in response to a reporter's question, clapping without getting your hands even close to each other, forgetting words, concepts, people's names and that this is the Biden presidency -not the Harris presidency, admitting that "they" won't let you take questions -saying that "they" are going to be mad at him if he does, repeatedly being guided around with hands on, moving him around like you would a 5 year old. Falling off a bike while standing still. You're free to argue all of that is because of a stutter as much as you like, or however you need to dismiss it, but to the rest of the world all of that TOGETHER, IN ONE PERSON, certainly doesn't look good for cognitive capabilities. |
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Post by pixiechick on Aug 14, 2022 2:59:09 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 14, 2022 3:04:14 GMT
You've been repeating the same claims about Biden since 2020 with a few new details. And you also keep saying that he will get replaced. 2 years later, he's still president. Believe what you want, but most of us are not convinced.
All of this seems like a convenient distraction from Trump's wrongdoing and the investigation of espionage. It's fairly predictable, every time there is negative press for Trump (which happens frequently), conservatives bring up Sleepy Joe and Hunter Biden.
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Post by refugeepea on Aug 14, 2022 3:07:18 GMT
You're free to argue all of that is because of a stutter as much as you like, or however you need to dismiss it, but to the rest of the world all of that TOGETHER, IN ONE PERSON, certainly doesn't look good for cognitive capabilities. Imagine if Trump had won. Biden put people in his administration with actual experience at what they do. If it gets so terrible, I'm fine with Kamala being president. I don't believe everything you are saying because it feels like a gross exaggeration. I'm also okay at admitting when I'm wrong. I don't worship Biden. He wouldn't have been my pick for the Democratic nominee. Hell, I'm technically a Republican. I was hoping to vote Mike Lee out in the primaries. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2022 3:09:42 GMT
Pence who is 16 years younger seems to go arse up on planes steps too. The new dementia criteria - falling up plane stairs Joe Biden, falling upstairs 3 times in a row. In the same moment. Jill actually physically moved a grown ass man into place. The president of the United States! Even she TREATS him like a man in a diminished mental state. I saw Biden trying to put his jacket on the other day. It was just short of a dog chasing his tail. The press guy talking about when he was recovering from covid the first time, he said that Joe actually held up his plate to show him he ate everything on his plate. Like a 3 year old. Thinking he's running for United States Senate, (twice) when he was running for president, rambling on about a guy named Cornpop while reminiscing about letting kids playing with his leg hair decades ago, repeatedly not understanding not to read the stage directions, standing trance like while holding an imaginary steering wheel? while looking off into the distance instead of looking at the the person asking you the question, saying "We're in the process of deciding what I think." in response to a reporter's question, clapping without getting your hands even close to each other, forgetting words, concepts, people's names and that this is the Biden presidency -not the Harris presidency, admitting that "they" won't let you take questions -saying that "they" are going to be mad at him if he does, repeatedly being guided around with hands on, moving him around like you would a 5 year old. Falling off a bike while standing still. You're free to argue all of that is because of a stutter as much as you like, or however you need to dismiss it, but to the rest of the world all of that TOGETHER, IN ONE PERSON, certainly doesn't look good for cognitive capabilities. I don't think there's enough bandwidth on this board for me to list the mentally deficient behaviour and speech from Trump. But stick with your person, woman, man, camera, tv expose. |
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Post by sideways on Aug 14, 2022 3:36:17 GMT
Yeah…the bold, the caps lock, and the enlarged fonts, bringing up a post from eight years ago totally don’t make you look unhinged. Not at all. 😏😂 I get a post from 2017 thrown in my face all the time. Not that I give two shits. You are a total hypocrite. I don’t put any stock in what the village idiot says. I’ll humor you, though. Please show where I brought back a 2017 post to “throw in your face”. |
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Post by Skellinton on Aug 14, 2022 3:40:32 GMT
Samantha, that is not just disagreeing with someone. How do you NOT see that as insulting someone's mental health? I'm really curious to know how that thought process works. That you don't see the words that are actually insulting someone's mental health, as insulting someone's mental health. How does that happen? Whatever... lateskis
Correct me if I am wrong but isn't the op one of the people who regularly insults the current President and claims they have dementia and other mental failings? And now they are calling the exact same behavior bullying because it is directed at them? |
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Post by sideways on Aug 14, 2022 3:42:37 GMT
I didn’t say you did. But you are claiming that merge turned this into a bully fest but you need to take a look at others like Jonathon and cindosha. Unless I guess you are only concerned with the interactions between you and merge. Show me where I bullied anyone…oh, you must be referring to where I called someone a hypocrite. Ouch!!! I didn’t call her a fucking moron or the village idiot. Oh yeah, that’s what she calls me. But let’s group me in with the bullies…🤣🤣🤣 Aawwwwwww…the village idiot missed me. 😂 I haven’t said a word to her in a loooong time, yet here she is whining about me. 🤣 |
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Post by Merge on Aug 14, 2022 3:44:53 GMT
Show me where I bullied anyone…oh, you must be referring to where I called someone a hypocrite. Ouch!!! I didn’t call her a fucking moron or the village idiot. Oh yeah, that’s what she calls me. But let’s group me in with the bullies…🤣🤣🤣 Aawwwwwww…the village idiot missed me. 😂 I haven’t said a word to her in a loooong time, yet here she is whining about me. 🤣 Oh so it was you who callled her that? Lol she thinks it was me. Must be confused. 😂 |
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Post by sideways on Aug 14, 2022 3:47:39 GMT
Aawwwwwww…the village idiot missed me. 😂 I haven’t said a word to her in a loooong time, yet here she is whining about me. 🤣 Oh so it was you who callled her that? Lol she thinks it was me. Must be confused. 😂 Maybe we’ve both referred to her that way? I don’t think I’ve seen you do it, but it’s really not hard to understand that more than one person would draw that conclusion. 😁 |
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Post by Merge on Aug 14, 2022 3:51:55 GMT
While we’re here, I just want to point out that I think it it was Gem Girl who made the first derogatory comment about someone’s cognition on this thread, something about an idea being “bonkers.” Which, yeah, I don’t disagree, but I’m not sure how that earned *me* a call out for turning the tide of the thread. |
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Post by pixiechick on Aug 14, 2022 3:53:37 GMT
You've been repeating the same claims about Biden since 2020 with a few new details. And you also keep saying that he will get replaced. 2 years later, he's still president. Believe what you want, but most of us are not convinced. All of this seems like a convenient distraction from Trump's wrongdoing and the investigation of espionage. It's fairly predictable, every time there is negative press for Trump (which happens frequently), conservatives bring up Sleepy Joe and Hunter Biden. Despite the fact that it hasn't been 2 years yet, I've never said the words he will get replace in 2 years. I said I don't think he will make it the full term. It's not meant to be a distraction for the Trump raid since this was reported on weeks before the raid. So that doesn't track. I don't believe everything you are saying because it feels like a gross exaggeration. I'm also okay at admitting when I'm wrong. Not one single thing I've said is untrue or an exaggeration. one MIGHT have my opinion added to it, with a caveat. Joe Biden, falling upstairs 3 times in a row. In the same moment. Absolutely true. Jill actually physically moved a grown ass man into place. The president of the United States! Even she TREATS him like a man in a diminished mental state. Absolutely true. I saw Biden trying to put his jacket on the other day. It was just short of a dog chasing his tail. You would totally agree with the assessment if it was Trump doing that exact same thing, that's how ABSOLUTELY TRUE it is. The press guy talking about when he was recovering from covid the first time, he said that Joe actually held up his plate to show him he ate everything on his plate. Like a 3 year old. ABSOLUTELY TRUE Thinking he's running for United States Senate, (twice) when he was running for president, ABSOLUTELY TRUE rambling on about a guy named Cornpop while reminiscing about letting kids playing with his leg hair decades ago, ABSOLUTELY TRUE repeatedly not understanding not to read the stage directions, ABSOLUTELY TRUE standing trance like while holding an imaginary steering wheel? while looking off into the distance instead of looking at the the person asking you the question, ABSOLUTELY TRUE, I provided the video above saying "We're in the process of deciding what I think." in response to a reporter's question, ABSOLUTELY TRUE clapping without getting your hands even close to each other, ABSOLUTELY TRUE ***I did not include the ridiculous accusation I've seen that he keeps trying to shake hands with no one there, because to me it's clear he was trying to determine where to go, not shake hands. He was indicating "I want to make sure I go in the right direction". forgetting words, concepts, people's names and that this is the Biden presidency -not the Harris presidency, ABSOLUTELY TRUE admitting that "they" won't let you take questions -saying that "they" are going to be mad at him if he does, ABSOLUTELY TRUE repeatedly being guided around with hands on, moving him around like you would a 5 year old. ABSOLUTELY TRUE ***I've seen Jill do it at least twice and the Easter Bunny once Falling off a bike while standing still. ABSOLUTELY TRUE ***although I cut him slack on it, it still happened One I forgot I just saw the other day, He looked like he forgot that Schumer? just shook his hand and he held out his hand again for him to shake. ABSOLUTELY TRUE Correct me if I am wrong but isn't the op one of the people who regularly insults the current President and claims they have dementia and other mental failings? And now they are calling the exact same behavior bullying because it is directed at them? Noticing specific things that actually speak to declining cognitive ability in the POTUS and discussing it on a message board, is entirely than using personal attacks "to their face" to show disagreement and you know it. Where's that context you preach? |
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Post by Merge on Aug 14, 2022 3:54:28 GMT
I get a post from 2017 thrown in my face all the time. Not that I give two shits. You are a total hypocrite. I don’t put any stock in what the village idiot says. I’ll humor you, though. Please show where I brought back a 2017 post to “throw in your face”. I think she’s talking about the infamous thread where she said she would run over BLM protesters if they were blocking her in the road. It gets brought up every so often. |
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Post by chlerbie on Aug 14, 2022 4:02:02 GMT
My head is just reeling from all of the "vicious bullying" going on here. Well, not really. More from the gratuitous use of bold and capital letters and repeated, discounted points over and over. But that wouldn't make a compelling title.
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Post by elaine on Aug 14, 2022 4:07:33 GMT
I am endlessly amused by people who whined about “liberal snowflakes” for years who now sob online endlessly because they erroneously claim they are being bullied anytime someone disagrees with them or asks for proof to back up their claims.
Neither of which remotely meets the definition of bullying.
And, to be clear, as someone claimed upthread that people have been “bullied” here into changing thread titles, no one here asked Gia to change her thread title. I have seen people in the past point out that a thread title is false or misleading and ask that it be changed for those purposes, but no one here - unless I missed it - asked Gia to change her thread title to an inaccurate whine.
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Post by pixiechick on Aug 14, 2022 4:16:10 GMT
While we’re here, I just want to point out that I think it it was Gem Girl who made the first derogatory comment about someone’s cognition on this thread, something about an idea being “bonkers.” Which, yeah, I don’t disagree, but I’m not sure how that earned *me* a call out for turning the tide of the thread. Nope. You turned it vicious. Again. Own your own actions. Stop trying to put the blame on anyone else. You're intelligent enough to know that "an idea being bonkers" is completely different than "you're unhinged", which opened the door to "mentally challenged" and then some. Not to mention insinuating being racist You love ‘em when they’re shooting unarmed black people, If you can't prove your point without vicious personal attacks, YOU'RE the problem. |
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Post by pixiechick on Aug 14, 2022 4:28:21 GMT
I am endlessly amused by people who whined about “liberal snowflakes” for years Not once have I ever uttered those words, much less posted them. Not ever. who now sob online endlessly because they erroneously claim they are being bullied anytime someone disagrees with them or asks for proof to back up their claims. Neither of which remotely meets the definition of bullying. Stop gaslighting. As anyone can see from the many many many reasonable conversations I've had over just the last few years I don't have a problem when someone disagrees with me. The problem comes when they throw personal attacks in order to shut down things they don't like. And now they've become vicious from Merge. And, to be clear, as someone claimed upthread that people have been “bullied” here into changing thread titles, no one here asked Gia pixiechick to change her thread title.And since you’re such a stickler for precision and accuracy, perhaps you could edit your title to include allege, since all we have are Chuck Grassley’s letters. Even the tweet you posted used the word alleged. |
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 14, 2022 4:33:17 GMT
I am endlessly amused by people who whined about “liberal snowflakes” for years Not once have I ever uttered those words, much less posted them. Not ever. who now sob online endlessly because they erroneously claim they are being bullied anytime someone disagrees with them or asks for proof to back up their claims. Neither of which remotely meets the definition of bullying. Stop gaslighting. As anyone can see from the many many many reasonable conversations I've had over just the last few years I don't have a problem when someone disagrees with me. Now that’s funny! 😀
The problem comes when they throw personal attacks in order to shut down things they don't like. And now they've become vicious from Merge. And, to be clear, as someone claimed upthread that people have been “bullied” here into changing thread titles, no one here asked Gia pixiechick to change her thread title.And since you’re such a stickler for precision and accuracy, perhaps you could edit your title to include allege, since all we have are Chuck Grassley’s letters. Even the tweet you posted used the word alleged. OMG. OMG that really is pretty funny as well as not being entirely true. |
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Post by myshelly on Aug 14, 2022 4:43:16 GMT
I realize I am probably going to deeply regret wading into this thread, but here goes nothing.
Ok, I’m not a big fan of Biden, but there is something I genuinely don’t understand about the “but his laptop” arguments.
Conservative peas, let’s say for the sake of this conversation that I believe everything you say is on the laptop, is on the laptop. Let’s say I believe Hunter is the biggest drug addict ever, he had incriminating photos with girls, he tried to sell access to JB. Let’s say I even believe the media just decided not to cover it.
My question is - so?
What exactly are the allegations against *Joe* Biden, the actual president? Why make such a big deal about what his kid did?
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