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Post by mom on Aug 15, 2022 7:50:45 GMT
A few things really annoy me about all of this. One, that the organization is called Saved the Kids. It's too similar to Save the Children, which has been around for a long time and I hope Collin didn't name the organization Save the Kids to capitalize on this and hope that people would donate to his thinking they were donating to Save the Children. Two, in one of Dear Lizzy's posts (or her friend's, can't remember which) she says that all that the board members care about is money. It's just like invoking the widow thing. It's so easy to throw out there to vilify someone and is ultimately meaningless. While I realize not everyone has good motivations and even some charities, foundations, board members, etc are not necessarily selfless (I work in the industry, and it is indeed an industry), I don't see a small organization like this suing Elizabeth just for the money and being willing to risk not only funds that now have to be spent on legal fees that could be used for their programming instead but also their professional reputations and that of their charity on a baseless lawsuit that is "only about money". I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that Elizabeth didn't fully educate herself on the rules and guidelines regarding being a board member or director, etc. of a charity and misused the funds and doesn't understand why it's not her money to do with as she pleases and doesn't want to pay it back, so they're suing her. It may be a grift or it may be that she's just too stupid to understand the difference between personal and charitable money. There’s also a ‘Save the Kids Group’ that is trying to get all kids and juveniles out of jail. |
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Aug 15, 2022 20:16:21 GMT
I went and looked the website.
What the website says. Everything he claimed to stand for and represent, contradicts his and most especially her actions. Her social media is filled with their children, she overshares everything.
Since his passing, Mrs Kartchner seems to have escalated and ramped up, her need for attention and having her ego fed.
I feel sorry for their children. It seems nothing they do is private or not on camera and-or video.
She must be always lurking and following her children around, in and out of the home....with her camera ready 24/7. It just seems so invasive.
I wonder, as time passes and the children move into adulthood, are they going to be resentful and feel their privacy was massively invaded without their consent.
I am a scrapbooker, who is all about taking photos. I have limits and I know what boundaries are and that there is a time and a place for everything.
The amount of photographs I take, is extremely minimal in comparison to what she seems to take.
I can't imagine, having my every move watched and photographed, being followed with a camera 24/7.
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Post by Embri on Aug 15, 2022 20:35:43 GMT
I wonder, as time passes and the children move into adulthood, are they going to be resentful and feel their privacy was massively invaded without their consent. Absolutely. There's also a massive difference between photographing your kids and sharing with family* or making a physical scrapbook vs. displaying them like zoo animals and inviting the public to gawk. The internet never forgets. Once their privacy is gone, there's no getting it back short of extreme witness protection level measures. *Assumption here that the parent(s) have used good judgement and determined that the family they're sharing with are not a threat to said child, mentally nor physically. |
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Post by mich5481 on Aug 16, 2022 16:20:36 GMT
I wonder, as time passes and the children move into adulthood, are they going to be resentful and feel their privacy was massively invaded without their consent. Absolutely. There's also a massive difference between photographing your kids and sharing with family* or making a physical scrapbook vs. displaying them like zoo animals and inviting the public to gawk. The internet never forgets. Once their privacy is gone, there's no getting it back short of extreme witness protection level measures. *Assumption here that the parent(s) have used good judgement and determined that the family they're sharing with are not a threat to said child, mentally nor physically. And with facial recognition the way it is, you really can't even get that unless you have tons of plastic surgery. |
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Post by Night Owl on May 2, 2023 3:25:57 GMT
She and her boyfriend are now Instagram official. Sounds like the kids may not be so crazy about it, but that is understandable. At least she wasn't like Teresa (Collins?) who remarried instantly.
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Post by honeypea on May 3, 2023 18:29:42 GMT
She and her boyfriend are now Instagram official. Sounds like the kids may not be so crazy about it, but that is understandable. At least she wasn't like Teresa (Collins?) who remarried instantly. Oh gosh. Those last two videos of him on the grid carousel are really something. She has a type, that’s for sure. 🤡 |
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Post by scrappintoee on May 4, 2023 10:43:00 GMT
That video  Her "new love" is gyrating his pelvis wayyy too much and the soundtrack she used is so WEIRD! (once again, white influencers using an AAVE recording). Not only that, but the person is saying something about " is that him, is that the man you're settling for?" WHAT ?I'm sure her kids (and their friends!) and family enjoy seeing her boyfriend grinding his pelvis  |
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on May 4, 2023 16:57:32 GMT
I googled to see when Mr Karchner passed. It was October 2020.
The first year and a half-ish since his passing, she posted frequently with histrionics and drama about being debilitated by grief and made reference to herself barely functioning.
Now at the two and a half-ish year mark since his passing, she is in love with a man who has become her new best friend.
According to the third line in her post, it's because he holds her and lets her cry and carry on about Collin.
The last comments in the video, is about her settling.
It seems she "settled" for the one who holds her while she cries and carry on about Collin.
Not a healthy foundation, for a new beginning or a newer relationship.
Mr and Mrs Karchner have always presented forth and came across as arrogant and all about me and us.
It seems that tradition is continuing on.
I feel sorry for her children.
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Post by scrappintoee on May 7, 2023 1:41:33 GMT
Anyone know what happened with the lawsuit ? I feel sorry for her children. YES! And I still CANNOT understand how people respected him when he called women "sluts".
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Post by refugeepea on May 8, 2023 0:19:33 GMT
Okay, as a former Mormon I am curious. Her most recent apparel choices has the absence of garment lines or the "inappropriate" clothing she's wearing is clearing showing lack of garments. None of my business, yet I'm intrigued where she stands on religion.
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Post by refugeepea on May 8, 2023 3:41:34 GMT
YES! And I still CANNOT understand how people respected him when he called women "sluts". And the way I was raised, the current clothes she is wearing would have been deemed inappropriate, immodest, gives boys the wrong idea... Please note, I do not believe these things, just surprised at what she does wear now. |
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Post by mich5481 on May 8, 2023 10:54:59 GMT
Okay, as a former Mormon I am curious. Her most recent apparel choices has the absence of garment lines or the "inappropriate" clothing she's wearing is clearing showing lack of garments. None of my business, yet I'm intrigued where she stands on religion. It may have been the grief talking, but I recall she posted some stuff immediately after Collin's death that she lost her faith. |
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Post by refugeepea on May 8, 2023 21:13:02 GMT
It may have been the grief talking, but I recall she posted some stuff immediately after Collin's death that she lost her faith. That does sound familiar. I'm the worst at remembering things. I would bet she has still definitely lost her faith. To take off your garments is a huge deal. You have to go through the whole temple ceremony, and blah, blah, blah, blah, boring stuff. I still have issues wearing certain clothes. Part of it is being fat though.  |
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Post by jimmysgirl on May 9, 2023 17:29:09 GMT
I googled to see when Mr Karchner passed. It was October 2020. The first year and a half-ish since his passing, she posted frequently with histrionics and drama about being debilitated by grief and made reference to herself barely functioning. Now at the two and a half-ish year mark since his passing, she is in love with a man who has become her new best friend. According to the third line in her post, it's because he holds her and lets her cry and carry on about Collin. The last comments in the video, is about her settling. It seems she "settled" for the one who holds her while she cries and carry on about Collin. Not a healthy foundation, for a new beginning or a newer relationship. Mr and Mrs Karchner have always presented forth and came across as arrogant and all about me and us. It seems that tradition is continuing on. I feel sorry for her children. I have a hard time criticizing anyone for the way they grieve. Particularly a young widow. Even moreso someone with children. Do I agree with everything she has done? No. But I have never had to walk in her shoes. Thank God. I follow a young woman online who was a young widow (without children) and she is been very open about her journey. She is also very open with the number people who have the nerve to tell her how to grieve, when to stop grieving, how to grieve more, and and how to grieve (in their opinion) more appropriately. She has been told, by strangers online, that she should have died instead of him. She has been told that he would be embarrassed of her. It's beyond sickening and horrifying. She lost her husband at virtually the same time that Lizzy lost hers. This young woman is now with a new man and has said the same things Lizzy has said. She has expressed the difficulty in still being in love with someone else while you're in love with someone new. It wasn't a break up. He was ripped away from her while they were still in love. You don't stop being in love because he's gone. So you love two men at once. Kudos to the new man who is willing to deal with that. I find a lot of things Lizzy does to be hypocritical and I am absolutely not her fan, but I cannot get onboard with criticizing any widow when they know very little about what has really gone on in the new relationship. Don't presume to know how other people need to grieve. God forbid you should ever be in their shoes. |
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Post by pantsonfire on May 9, 2023 17:46:01 GMT
I googled to see when Mr Karchner passed. It was October 2020. The first year and a half-ish since his passing, she posted frequently with histrionics and drama about being debilitated by grief and made reference to herself barely functioning. Now at the two and a half-ish year mark since his passing, she is in love with a man who has become her new best friend. According to the third line in her post, it's because he holds her and lets her cry and carry on about Collin. The last comments in the video, is about her settling. It seems she "settled" for the one who holds her while she cries and carry on about Collin. Not a healthy foundation, for a new beginning or a newer relationship. Mr and Mrs Karchner have always presented forth and came across as arrogant and all about me and us. It seems that tradition is continuing on. I feel sorry for her children. I have a hard time criticizing anyone for the way they grieve. Particularly a young widow. Even moreso someone with children. Do I agree with everything she has done? No. But I have never had to walk in her shoes. Thank God. I follow a young woman online who was a young widow (without children) and she is been very open about her journey. She is also very open with the number people who have the nerve to tell her how to grieve, when to stop grieving, how to grieve more, and and how to grieve (in their opinion) more appropriately. She has been told, by strangers online, that she should have died instead of him. She has been told that he would be embarrassed of her. It's beyond sickening and horrifying. She lost her husband at virtually the same time that Lizzy lost hers. This young woman is now with a new man and has said the same things Lizzy has said. She has expressed the difficulty in still being in love with someone else while you're in love with someone new. It wasn't a break up. He was ripped away from her while they were still in love. You don't stop being in love because he's gone. So you love two men at once. Kudos to the new man who is willing to deal with that. I find a lot of things Lizzy does to be hypocritical and I am absolutely not her fan, but I cannot get onboard with criticizing any widow when they know very little about what has really gone on in the new relationship. Don't presume to know how other people need to grieve. God forbid you should ever be in their shoes. When you pimp out your "perfect" life and your "perfect" family and your "perfect kids" and say one thing yet do another (internet is bad!! Kids don't need it!! But hey look at my kids. Oh first kiss? First this and that?! My kids are making me rich!!) then you don't get to say that no one can critique you or how you grieve because she is posting where damn thing on line for the world to see. And that is 1000000% NOT okay. |
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Post by pantsonfire on May 9, 2023 17:47:17 GMT
Also we aren't going after grief. We are going after her faceless and over sharing and all that. But she out it into there so...
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on May 9, 2023 23:46:38 GMT
I have a hard time criticizing anyone for the way they grieve. Particularly a young widow. Even moreso someone with children. Do I agree with everything she has done? No. But I have never had to walk in her shoes. Thank God. I follow a young woman online who was a young widow (without children) and she is been very open about her journey. She is also very open with the number people who have the nerve to tell her how to grieve, when to stop grieving, how to grieve more, and and how to grieve (in their opinion) more appropriately. She has been told, by strangers online, that she should have died instead of him. She has been told that he would be embarrassed of her. It's beyond sickening and horrifying. She lost her husband at virtually the same time that Lizzy lost hers. This young woman is now with a new man and has said the same things Lizzy has said. She has expressed the difficulty in still being in love with someone else while you're in love with someone new. It wasn't a break up. He was ripped away from her while they were still in love. You don't stop being in love because he's gone. So you love two men at once. Kudos to the new man who is willing to deal with that. I find a lot of things Lizzy does to be hypocritical and I am absolutely not her fan, but I cannot get onboard with criticizing any widow when they know very little about what has really gone on in the new relationship. Don't presume to know how other people need to grieve. God forbid you should ever be in their shoes. Funny, that someone with very few posts, pops in to hand slap. The Dear Lizzy groupies must have been alerted.   |
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Post by jimmysgirl on May 12, 2023 14:18:37 GMT
I have a hard time criticizing anyone for the way they grieve. Particularly a young widow. Even moreso someone with children. Do I agree with everything she has done? No. But I have never had to walk in her shoes. Thank God. I follow a young woman online who was a young widow (without children) and she is been very open about her journey. She is also very open with the number people who have the nerve to tell her how to grieve, when to stop grieving, how to grieve more, and and how to grieve (in their opinion) more appropriately. She has been told, by strangers online, that she should have died instead of him. She has been told that he would be embarrassed of her. It's beyond sickening and horrifying. She lost her husband at virtually the same time that Lizzy lost hers. This young woman is now with a new man and has said the same things Lizzy has said. She has expressed the difficulty in still being in love with someone else while you're in love with someone new. It wasn't a break up. He was ripped away from her while they were still in love. You don't stop being in love because he's gone. So you love two men at once. Kudos to the new man who is willing to deal with that. I find a lot of things Lizzy does to be hypocritical and I am absolutely not her fan, but I cannot get onboard with criticizing any widow when they know very little about what has really gone on in the new relationship. Don't presume to know how other people need to grieve. God forbid you should ever be in their shoes. Funny, that someone with very few posts, pops in to hand slap. The Dear Lizzy groupies must have been alerted. I don't give two shits about Dear Lizzy. As mentioned -- I think she's a hypocrite. I DO care about someone suggesting that someone else is not mourning right. God forbid you should be in a widow's shoes sometime. I hope someone comes to YOUR defence. Also I've been here since 2015. No, I don't post a lot. This is why. FFS. |
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Post by pantsonfire on May 12, 2023 14:28:33 GMT
Uh oh ladies, we are being big meanies and not being welcoming.
This is the Peas. Buckle up and enjoy the ride.
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on May 12, 2023 15:22:29 GMT
Uh oh ladies, we are being big meanies and not being welcoming. This is the Peas. Buckle up and enjoy the ride. Groupies don't like it when they are mentioned or called out. They try to twist it into "mean peas".  Groupies lurk every day and have for years. They don't come to play, unless they are running to the defense of someone with heinous behavior. Same story, every time....been that way for years, decades. |
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Post by dawnnikol on May 12, 2023 18:35:27 GMT
Duuuuuude. I Googled "Elizabeth Kartchner lawsuit" and the Reddit thread it pulled up... it's so flaming, I won't even post a link.
Can't find anything about the lawsuit though.
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Post by honeypea on May 12, 2023 21:24:16 GMT
Duuuuuude. I Googled "Elizabeth Kartchner lawsuit" and the Reddit thread it pulled up... it's so flaming, I won't even post a link. Can't find anything about the lawsuit though. !!!!! 😮😮😮 Wow! Trashy dysfunctional mess. 😵💫 |
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Post by ScrappingMe on May 12, 2023 21:39:33 GMT
Whoa. Reddit. Wow.
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Post by pantsonfire on May 12, 2023 22:22:30 GMT
Dang. That was a crazy read.
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on May 12, 2023 23:56:47 GMT
Wow on the Reddit information.
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Post by Night Owl on May 13, 2023 0:17:48 GMT
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Post by refugeepea on May 14, 2023 0:10:02 GMT
Well dammit all to hell. How am I always out of the loop of the latest Mormon gossip when I'm surrounded by them? Probably because I don't follow any of them and don't live in the cool Mormon communities.
In all seriousness, there has been some seriously sad shit happening too.
Like this recent story. He was a returned missionary, but definitely not an active member.
Then the family murder/suicide in Enoch.  Then the Mormon employed state legislator who covered up child abuse. 
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Post by sleepingbooty on Jun 23, 2023 18:22:28 GMT
I'm sorry but how has that r/UtahInfluencerDrama about Liz's double life not added 10 pages of chit-chat to this discussion? I was just trying to catch up on some scrappy gossip and Googled to find the lawsuit thread on the board but that unrelated Reddit thread popped up first in the results and... WHOA! Whoa, whoa, whoa, Nelly! Or I should say whoa, Lizzy.  I don't know how you ladies have managed to not pour the tea and then some. It sheds a completely new light on all those months of live videos of her crying to her phone camera. Somebody was working through A LOT of guilt. ETA: So, any news on the lawsuit? |
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Post by Night Owl on Jun 24, 2023 0:46:22 GMT
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Post by pantsonfire on Jun 24, 2023 1:13:08 GMT
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Her "new love" is gyrating his pelvis wayyy too much and the soundtrack she used is so WEIRD!
