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Post by crazy4scraps on Sept 6, 2022 3:30:39 GMT
I know! Lets take a drink every time the cow mentions Hunter Biden. Party!
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Post by Merge on Sept 6, 2022 3:34:28 GMT
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Post by Merge on Sept 6, 2022 3:39:27 GMT
I’m far more concerned about how Trump Jr. - an actual political advisor in his father’s campaigns - has targeted teachers with lies that contribute to the rash of violence and death threats against us. Why hasn’t the FBI investigated the role Don Jr. has played in the vilification of (and inciting violence and threats against) scientists, academics, and anyone who doesn’t bow down to the great Trump cult?
I mean, Junior has been heavily involved in his dad’s campaigns. That kind of rhetoric seems like something we should be investigating.
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Post by aj2hall on Sept 6, 2022 4:05:29 GMT
I’m far more concerned about how Trump Jr. - an actual political advisor in his father’s campaigns - has targeted teachers with lies that contribute to the rash of violence and death threats against us. Why hasn’t the FBI investigated the role Don Jr. has played in the vilification of (and inciting violence and threats against) scientists, academics, and anyone who doesn’t bow down to the great Trump cult? I mean, Junior has been heavily involved in his dad’s campaigns. That kind of rhetoric seems like something we should be investigating. Or maybe investigate Jared Kushner and the $2 Billion Saudi investment. Did Jared or Trump sell secrets to the Saudis in exchange for the investment and hosting the Saudi golf tournaments?
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Post by morecowbell on Sept 6, 2022 4:07:02 GMT
Hunter Biden Hunter Biden Hunter Biden Hunter Biden Hunter Biden Hunter Biden Hunter Biden Hunter Biden Hunter Biden Hunter Biden Hunter Biden Hunter Biden Bottoms up ladies.
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Post by lisae on Sept 6, 2022 13:52:08 GMT
The FBI can conduct more than one investigation at a time. There is plenty on Trump but he has so many people in his pocket and still wields so much influence that it is important to investigate every alleged incident. Also, that many of these documents he clearly took from the WH would have serious ramifications for national security, it is critical that this be a priority. The January 6 committee needs to continue their work. Georgia officials need to continue to investigate election tampering. I don't know whether there is a single thing that finally turns voters or just the accumulation of things that make reasonable people conclude Trump should not be elected again. Either way, we have to keep turning over rocks.
Hunter Biden is not and has never held a government position. He has no influence over the election. If he did something wrong, he should be prosecuted but I have no more interest in him than I do any other investigation of a non-political figure.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Sept 6, 2022 13:58:47 GMT
is it just me, or is this poll sort of like the trick question, "sir, did you beat your wife last night?"
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Just T
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Post by Just T on Sept 6, 2022 14:04:30 GMT
Hunter Biden Hunter Biden Hunter Biden Hunter Biden Hunter Biden Hunter Biden Hunter Biden Hunter Biden Hunter Biden Hunter Biden Hunter Biden Hunter Biden Bottoms up ladies. And you wonder why folks here do not take your supposed attempts at legitimate discussion of the issues seriously.
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Post by Merge on Sept 6, 2022 14:07:05 GMT
is it just me, or is this poll sort of like the trick question, "sir, did you beat your wife last night?" So I was on Tapatalk last night and couldn't see the poll, but now, in the browser version I can see it. JFC. Yes, the poll is a trick question designed to "gotcha." And the OP wonders why no one takes her seriously.
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Post by mollycoddle on Sept 6, 2022 14:18:18 GMT
Not sure what Hunter Biden has to do with keeping Trump out of office. No one that I know has paid much attention to Hunter Biden. The Dems that I know-and I know quite a few-voted against Trump because we all realized that he was dangerous and unethical. Time has not changed this opinion. In fact, since we discovered how many documents he stole-and tried to keep- I think less of him that I did at the end of his term. I am pretty sure that my Dem friends would agree.
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Post by Merge on Sept 6, 2022 15:03:52 GMT
Not sure what Hunter Biden has to do with keeping Trump out of office. No one that I know has paid much attention to Hunter Biden. The Dems that I know-and I know quite a few-voted against Trump because we all realized that he was dangerous and unethical. Time has not changed this opinion. In fact, since we discovered how many documents he stole-and tried to keep- I think less of him that I did at the end of his term. I am pretty sure that my Dem friends would agree. I follow a fair number of principled conservatives on Twitter to keep abreast of ideas from both sides. I see those conservatives take the Biden admin to task on any number of issues - debt forgiveness, the withdrawal from Afghanistan, various budget items, renewables, immigration. You know what I never see them post about? Hunter Biden.
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Post by inkedup on Sept 6, 2022 16:06:42 GMT
It's amazing that the right is suddenly so concerned with ethics.
My ethics don't change with the administration. Trump is garbage, but I don't advocate the use of any illegal or unethical methods to keep him out of office.
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Post by dizzycheermom on Sept 6, 2022 16:23:21 GMT
I know! Lets take a drink every time the cow mentions Hunter Biden. Party! We will be too drunk to function! 😂😂
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Post by Scrapper100 on Sept 6, 2022 16:38:09 GMT
It's amazing that the right is suddenly so concerned with ethics. My ethics don't change with the administration. Trump is garbage, but I don't advocate the use of any illegal or unethical methods to keep him out of office. Exactly. I have my ethics and I look at both parties with those ethics. Neither is perfect snd I never agree with everything but I just can’t understand how they can keep giving him passes on his obvious crimes. They always do things we don’t like or agree with but formers administration did so many criminal things. Seriously I don’t understand why they are allowed to get away with it. Keep waiting for someone to speak out. Well a few have but they are so few and others scream so much louder they get buried. It’s really sad how our country has changed so much in the past 7 years or so. They just don’t see what is happening and make excuses. If Biden had done any of these things I can just imagine the outrage heck they are blaming him for things they are doing. They are blaming him for things that are direct results of formers actions. It’s really sad to see what’s becoming of our great country and I see no end in sight.
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Post by huskergal on Sept 6, 2022 16:43:02 GMT
I am so confused. Was Hunter Biden running for an office?
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Post by Scrapper100 on Sept 6, 2022 16:44:55 GMT
I am so confused. Was Hunter Biden running for an office? Exactly. I didn’t vote for him nor would I have voted for him.
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Post by gar on Sept 6, 2022 17:07:45 GMT
is it just me, or is this poll sort of like the trick question, "sir, did you beat your wife last night?" You posted what I was thinking - "Have you stopped beating your wife?" was what I was going to say
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Post by dizzycheermom on Sept 6, 2022 17:59:19 GMT
So Trump and/or his people kept Hillary Clinton from winning by releasing the Comey letter and the email "scandal" that turned out to be nothing. (Republican led committees and a Republican administration found nothing that resulted in charges.)
And pixiechick / morecowbell is mad because it didn't work this time against Biden with Hunter's laptop. Got it!
You are hella mad that Hunter may have committed some crimes (which we all say, investigate and convict if guilty), but you won't admit to any of the crimes that Trump, his cronies, or the Maga Republicans have committed. Got it!
You sure are a one trick pony!
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Post by jayfab on Sept 6, 2022 18:20:06 GMT
Every time I hear about/read about Hunter’s laptop I drink a Billy Beer.
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Post by aj2hall on Sept 6, 2022 20:17:17 GMT
So Trump and/or his people kept Hillary Clinton from winning by releasing the Comey letter and the email "scandal" that turned out to be nothing. (Republican led committees and a Republican administration found nothing that resulted in charges.) And pixiechick / morecowbell is mad because it didn't work this time against Biden with Hunter's laptop. Got it! You are hella mad that Hunter may have committed some crimes (which we all say, investigate and convict if guilty), but you won't admit to any of the crimes that Trump, his cronies, or the Maga Republicans have committed. Got it! You sure are a one trick pony! Remember how desperately Trump wanted another October surprise and tried to manufacture one? Even Republicans didn't think Hunter Biden moved voters. www.nytimes.com/2020/11/01/us/politics/trump-october.htmlBut even some members of Mr. Trump’s own party have shrugged off Mr. Trump’s assertions about the accusations against Hunter Biden, which have largely been confined to Fox News and other conservative outlets. “I don’t think it moves a single voter,” Senator Ted Cruz,
And this is probably the best reason why Hunter Biden is irrelevant, “ People aren’t suddenly going to believe you’re corrupt two weeks before the election,” he said.
I agree completely. MAGA Republicans can't let go of Hunter, they're really mad. But, they were already voting for Trump. Democrats are not concerned about Hunter, even if the laptop story had been verified, it would not have swayed them. And in the middle of an unprecedented pandemic and Trump's mismanagement, most voters had bigger priorities than Hunter Biden. If there was a poll choice - This poll is terrible and misleading, that's how I would have voted.
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Post by mollycoddle on Sept 6, 2022 21:01:52 GMT
Every time I hear about/read about Hunter’s laptop I drink a Billy Beer. 😆😆😆
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Post by morecowbell on Sept 7, 2022 3:04:12 GMT
I am so confused. Was Hunter Biden running for an office? Exactly. I didn’t vote for him nor would I have voted for him. Because if the FBI worked to cover bad information for the good of one candidate, many Americans want to know that.
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Post by aj2hall on Sept 7, 2022 3:46:44 GMT
Exactly. I didn’t vote for him nor would I have voted for him. Because if the FBI worked to cover bad information for the good of one candidate, many Americans want to know that. You're grasping at straws and as desperate as Trump announcing that he should be re-instated as president. He lost the election, get over it. And no, it does not matter what Hunter Biden or the FBI might have done. Anything the FBI did or didn't do is a reflection on Trump who was president at the time. The discovery of Hunter Biden's laptop would not have convinced people 2 weeks before the election that Joe Biden was corrupt. Joe Biden had a long career as a politician and was well known. This was not going to play out the way the it did with Hillary Clinton. People voted against Trump because he badly mismanaged covid and people were tired of all of the drama with him.
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Post by freecharlie on Sept 7, 2022 4:38:30 GMT
Keep it ethical and relevant.
I honestly don't give a shit about Hunter Biden just as I didn't give a shit about any of the Trump kids until they were given government jobs.
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Post by morecowbell on Sept 7, 2022 18:30:21 GMT
Keep it ethical and relevant. I honestly don't give a shit about Hunter Biden just as I didn't give a shit about any of the Trump kids until they were given government jobs. If the FBI worked to cover bad information for the good of one candidate, wouldn't you want to know?
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Post by aj2hall on Sept 7, 2022 20:05:15 GMT
I'm not sure why you're stuck on a potential cover-up.
1. Anything that the FBI might have done happened on Trump's watch 2. So far, the only "evidence" of a cover-up are allegations in Chuck Grassley's letter. If this was a big cover-up and 14 alleged whistleblowers, don't you think someone would have come forward by now? And revealed what happened to someone other than Chuck Grassley? 3. No one except for MAGA Republicans cares about Hunter Biden 4. Joe Biden won the election. Get over it
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Post by crazy4scraps on Sept 8, 2022 1:05:09 GMT
I'm not sure why you're stuck on a potential cover-up. 1. Anything that the FBI might have done happened on Trump's watch 2. So far, the only evidence of a cover-up is Chuck Grassley's letter. If this was a big cover-up and 14 alleged whistleblowers, don't you think someone would have come forward by now? And revealed what happened to someone other than Chuck Grassley? 3. No one except for MAGA Republicans cares about Hunter Biden 4. Joe Biden won the election. Get over it Exactly all of this. If there was actually *anything* there, the republicans would have ALL been falling all over themselves to flush it out. Here we are almost two years after the election and still nothing. Plus, as has been noted *repeatedly* on this thread and others, Hunter wasn’t the candidate and wasn’t put in any official position of power within the White House (unlike the trump kids), and Joe Biden hasn’t been tied to any of Hunter’s past dealings (again, unlike the trump kids who have cashed in mightily). I think there’s way too much protesting going on and it’s all just an attempt to be a smoke screen for the current crop of crap that trump sr. is getting called on at the moment.
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Post by aj2hall on Sept 8, 2022 1:09:10 GMT
More Americans are seeing Trump's actions to overturn the election and storing documents at his country club as illegal or unethical. If we're lucky, Trump's own illegal and unethical actions will keep him out of the White House. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/09/07/polling-trump-illegal-unethical/A new Marist College poll for PBS and NPR released Wednesday showed 44 percent of Americans say Trump’s storage of sensitive government documents at Mar-a-Lago was illegal, while another 17 percent say it was unethical but not illegal. That follows on a July CNN poll in which 45 percent said Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election were illegal, and 34 percent said they were unethical.
What’s evident, though, is that compared to almost his entire tenure in office, it’s now becoming less of a leap for people to believe Trump broke the law. And while most Americans still aren’t convinced he did — and Trump retains the loyalty of much of the GOP — these numbers are not exactly conducive to regaining the presidency in 2024.
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Post by aj2hall on Sept 8, 2022 1:16:21 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Sept 8, 2022 1:20:28 GMT
I'm not sure why you're stuck on a potential cover-up. 1. Anything that the FBI might have done happened on Trump's watch 2. So far, the only evidence of a cover-up is Chuck Grassley's letter. If this was a big cover-up and 14 alleged whistleblowers, don't you think someone would have come forward by now? And revealed what happened to someone other than Chuck Grassley? 3. No one except for MAGA Republicans cares about Hunter Biden 4. Joe Biden won the election. Get over it Exactly all of this. If there was actually *anything* there, the republicans would have ALL been falling all over themselves to flush it out. Here we are almost two years after the election and still nothing. Plus, as has been noted *repeatedly* on this thread and others, Hunter wasn’t the candidate and wasn’t put in any official position of power within the White House (unlike the trump kids), and Joe Biden hasn’t been tied to any of Hunter’s past dealings (again, unlike the trump kids who have cashed in mightily). I think there’s way too much protesting going on and it’s all just an attempt to be a smoke screen for the current crop of crap that trump sr. is getting called on at the moment. Thank you. I forgot an important one 5. NY Times and Washington Post both conducted a thorough review of the laptop and found no evidence connecting Joe Biden to any of Hunter's business dealings. If you believe Grassley's allegations (and there are many reasons why his letter is not credible) what exactly did the FBI cover up? The existence of a lap top? How could that possibly have swayed election results?
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