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Post by bessieb on Sept 8, 2022 16:33:13 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 8, 2022 16:36:23 GMT
Andrew is in the front passenger seat of the SUV, Edward and Sophie are in the rear and William is driving...
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Post by bessieb on Sept 8, 2022 16:37:09 GMT
Andrew is in the front passenger seat of the SUV, Edward and Sophie are in the rear and William is driving... And they all look to be wearing black suits
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Post by Lexica on Sept 8, 2022 16:40:55 GMT
Aw, how very sad. I mean, we all know she wouldn't live forever, but when she actually passes, it will seem so strange without her there. I guess I really expected her to retire any time now so she could mentor her son for his first year as king and maybe enjoy her life with a well-deserved break from service. He's been mentored his entire life. She would never abdicate. I didn't consider her retiring to be a bad thing at her age. I just thought the woman could use some me time after devoting her entire life to the people. And yes, I guess he has been preparing for the job since he was a child, but once he actually becomes king, I am sure there will be occasions that he will wish his mother were there for advice. She did such an amazing job. Have all reigning kings and queens worked until they died? Did no one step down at an advanced age when they were ill or quite old?
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Post by lucyg on Sept 8, 2022 16:42:29 GMT
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Post by christine58 on Sept 8, 2022 16:43:05 GMT
I bet she has died already
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Post by pantsonfire on Sept 8, 2022 16:43:56 GMT
Andrew is in the front passenger seat of the SUV, Edward and Sophie are in the rear and William is driving... And they all look to be wearing black suits One looks grey and another green to me 🤷♀️
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Post by bessieb on Sept 8, 2022 16:44:46 GMT
He's been mentored his entire life. She would never abdicate. I didn't consider her retiring to be a bad thing at her age. I just thought the woman could use some me time after devoting her entire life to the people. And yes, I guess he has been preparing for the job since he was a child, but once he actually becomes king, I am sure there will be occasions that he will wish his mother were there for advice. She did such an amazing job. Have all reigning kings and queens worked until they died? Did no one step down at an advanced age when they were ill or quite old? In British history, only four monarchs have abdicated: Edward VIII, Richard II, Mary Queen of Scots, James VII of Scotland (who was also James II of England).(According to Google)
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Post by gar on Sept 8, 2022 16:46:05 GMT
I bet she has died already It's quite possible, but nicely put.
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Post by jennyap on Sept 8, 2022 16:46:28 GMT
My feeling is we will be hearing an announcement at 6pm here in the UK. I think she's gone. I hope I'm wrong, and all the family at least get a chance to be there with her before she passes, but the way the BBC is responding makes me think otherwise.
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Post by lucyg on Sept 8, 2022 16:46:59 GMT
He's been mentored his entire life. She would never abdicate. I didn't consider her retiring to be a bad thing at her age. I just thought the woman could use some me time after devoting her entire life to the people. And yes, I guess he has been preparing for the job since he was a child, but once he actually becomes king, I am sure there will be occasions that he will wish his mother were there for advice. She did such an amazing job. Have all reigning kings and queens worked until they died? Did no one step down at an advanced age when they were ill or quite old? If they become incapacitated, there can be a Regent to run things, and they have occasionally been deposed against their will in the dim past, but I have never heard of a British monarch ever quitting before his/her death, other than Edward VIII in 1936. ETA obviously the British peas know better than I do! bessieb
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Post by papersilly on Sept 8, 2022 16:49:00 GMT
I unfortunately think based on what information has already been announced she has passed, and protocol is being followed. I hope I am incorrect. But why would BP say she is "under medical supervision and resting comfortably" if she has already passed? And why is Kate not there? i think because there is so much protocol and procedure that has to be followed, they might need that extra time to have everything in place when an announcement is actually made. also, maybe to allow the family extra time to be with her before everything erupts into chaos regardless of how much protocol is being followed.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Sept 8, 2022 16:50:49 GMT
BBC colors online have switched to black.
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Post by gar on Sept 8, 2022 16:52:06 GMT
But why would BP say she is "under medical supervision and resting comfortably" if she has already passed? And why is Kate not there? i think because there is so much protocol and procedure that has to be followed, they might need that extra time to have everything in place when an announcement is actually made. also, maybe to allow the family extra time to be with her before everything erupts into chaos regardless of how much protocol is being followed. Pretty much everything is planned to the Nth degree and ready to go but of course it could always vary depending on the time of day/night it happens.
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Post by Merge on Sept 8, 2022 16:52:58 GMT
I'm not really a follower of the royals, but my thoughts go out to everyone who will mourn the Queen's passing. This is certainly the end of an era.
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Post by mom on Sept 8, 2022 16:53:18 GMT
But why would BP say she is "under medical supervision and resting comfortably" if she has already passed? And why is Kate not there? i think because there is so much protocol and procedure that has to be followed, they might need that extra time to have everything in place when an announcement is actually made. also, maybe to allow the family extra time to be with her before everything erupts into chaos regardless of how much protocol is being followed. I agree. I also think that its extremely important that things not appear that chaos is in control and instead, that things are all under control. I also think that even if, God forbid, The Queen, suffered in her last moments, that for now, every have a good mental picture that she was in complete control until her last breath (even if later it comes out that that wasn't the case).
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Post by Rhondito on Sept 8, 2022 16:54:08 GMT
Have all reigning kings and queens worked until they died? Did no one step down at an advanced age when they were ill or quite old? The only one to voluntarily step down was King Edward, who abdicated to marry Wallace Simpson.
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Post by wellway on Sept 8, 2022 16:55:40 GMT
My feeling is we will be hearing an announcement at 6pm here in the UK. I think she's gone. I hope I'm wrong, and all the family at least get a chance to be there with her before she passes, but the way the BBC is responding makes me think otherwise. I think you might be right but would they wait until Harry gets to Barmoral? It's only a few minutes until six and I don't think Harry has arrived?
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Post by luckyjune on Sept 8, 2022 16:58:13 GMT
My heart dropped a bit when I hear the Queen was under medical supervision. I aspire to live a long life, as she has, and remain as sharp and active.
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Post by gar on Sept 8, 2022 16:58:30 GMT
It's only a few minutes until six and I don't think Harry has arrived? Did you catch the brief announcement that Meghan will travel up "at a later date"?
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Post by gillyp on Sept 8, 2022 16:59:30 GMT
He's been mentored his entire life. She would never abdicate. I didn't consider her retiring to be a bad thing at her age. I just thought the woman could use some me time after devoting her entire life to the people. And yes, I guess he has been preparing for the job since he was a child, but once he actually becomes king, I am sure there will be occasions that he will wish his mother were there for advice. She did such an amazing job. Have all reigning kings and queens worked until they died? Did no one step down at an advanced age when they were ill or quite old? bessieb has listed them all and iirc, 3 of them were centuries ago and political forces were at play. Abdication is not really the done thing. Edward VIII caused a HUGE furore here when he abdicated.
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Post by wellway on Sept 8, 2022 17:00:46 GMT
It's only a few minutes until six and I don't think Harry has arrived? Did you catch the brief announcement that Meghan will travel up "at a later date"? No, didn't catch that. Where is Harry travelling from? Last I saw he was in Germany, from a headline during the week.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 8, 2022 17:05:47 GMT
Why did Harry decide to drive that far from London. The others were all in London or the immediate area and flew...
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Post by jennyap on Sept 8, 2022 17:07:37 GMT
My feeling is we will be hearing an announcement at 6pm here in the UK. I think she's gone. I hope I'm wrong, and all the family at least get a chance to be there with her before she passes, but the way the BBC is responding makes me think otherwise. I think you might be right but would they wait until Harry gets to Barmoral? It's only a few minutes until six and I don't think Harry has arrived? Looking that way as they are still holding the same line, no announcement.
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Post by gillyp on Sept 8, 2022 17:08:15 GMT
It's only a few minutes until six and I don't think Harry has arrived? Did you catch the brief announcement that Meghan will travel up "at a later date"? I did and I admit my initial thought was that it was making it all about her but that was unkind. It could be that she DIDn't want it to be all about her so is keeping away. I didn't think that about Kate, who presumably is keeping life stable for the children, so I shouldn't think that of Meghan. Maybe Kate and Meghan will travel up together, if necessary.
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Post by gar on Sept 8, 2022 17:08:33 GMT
The statement was from the Palace not from a news outlet. I realize that. Im saying that after the announcement came out, if the News outlets were reading too much into the announcement, then they would have leaked more info about what was really happening. The fact that no one is telling the News that they are overblowing the situation is somewhat a hint that they are agreeing with the news that its really that bad. The statement would have been made in the full knowledge of how it would be interpreted in the press with all the subtle code that it included.
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Post by amp on Sept 8, 2022 17:12:05 GMT
I bet she has died already I think so, too. I think they are just waiting for Harry to get there before making the announcement.
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Post by scrappinspidey2 on Sept 8, 2022 17:13:21 GMT
Why did Harry decide to drive that far from London. The others were all in London or the immediate area and flew... There are many reasons for him choosing this option. I am going with he needs the time to settle with the idea of what is happening and how to face the family he has been fighting for so long. This is not an easy thing. I hate speculating but I am human so Im also going with there is no rush because what is done is done and him getting there on a plane vs a car won't make a difference in the long run. I haven't picked sides on the Harry vs Royals but I understand the need for space in the face of these things. She might be the queen to the world but to him it is his grandmother.
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Post by welshjenni on Sept 8, 2022 17:16:57 GMT
Did you catch the brief announcement that Meghan will travel up "at a later date"? No, didn't catch that. Where is Harry travelling from? Last I saw he was in Germany, from a headline during the week. Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are currently in the UK, they have cancelled their attendance at the WellChild awards being held in London this evening.
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Post by bellemac on Sept 8, 2022 17:19:40 GMT
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