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Post by Laurie on Oct 2, 2022 2:46:50 GMT
I think I was the first one to jump on the “but Trump said … ” bandwagon in this thread. Believe me, it doesn’t mean I can’t tell when Joe Biden makes another gaffe. Joe Biden’s gaffes are so freakin’ unimportant in comparison to Trump’s gaffes AND purposeful, uncalled-for personal attacks that this OP wouldn’t dream of posting a critical thread about, that my life is too short for wasting time on nodding my head in agreement. Yes, this was a cringe-worthy mistake. That said, Joe Biden could be in a coma and still be a better president than Trump. I am not going to change my mind or my ways on this. If the political threads bother you, it’s okay not to open them. Laurie Awww Lucy you know I love you. I think I have even posted before how much I respect you in political threads. My post was most definitely not at you. |
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Post by lucyg on Oct 2, 2022 3:01:18 GMT
I think I was the first one to jump on the “but Trump said … ” bandwagon in this thread. Believe me, it doesn’t mean I can’t tell when Joe Biden makes another gaffe. Joe Biden’s gaffes are so freakin’ unimportant in comparison to Trump’s gaffes AND purposeful, uncalled-for personal attacks that this OP wouldn’t dream of posting a critical thread about, that my life is too short for wasting time on nodding my head in agreement. Yes, this was a cringe-worthy mistake. That said, Joe Biden could be in a coma and still be a better president than Trump. I am not going to change my mind or my ways on this. If the political threads bother you, it’s okay not to open them. Laurie Awww Lucy you know I love you. I think I have even posted before how much I respect you in political threads. My post was most definitely not at you. awww, that is the nicest thing. Thank you. You are really not who I’m angry at and I’m sorry my post sounded so cranky. |
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Post by elaine on Oct 2, 2022 3:37:25 GMT
I think I was the first one to jump on the “but Trump said … ” bandwagon in this thread. Believe me, it doesn’t mean I can’t tell when Joe Biden makes another gaffe. Joe Biden’s gaffes are so freakin’ unimportant in comparison to Trump’s gaffes AND purposeful, uncalled-for personal attacks that this OP wouldn’t dream of posting a critical thread about, that my life is too short for wasting time on nodding my head in agreement. Yes, this was a cringe-worthy mistake. That said, Joe Biden could be in a coma and still be a better president than Trump. I am not going to change my mind or my ways on this. If the political threads bother you, it’s okay not to open them. Laurie and thought she’d get back with this nothing burger. I have to wonder at anyone who thinks there is room for “good discussion” with the right at this point in history. Are they even paying attention? How can you listen with a straight face to someone whose entire perspective is based on lies? Seriously. In a tactic taken from the Trump playbook, if embarrassed by a stupid claim you make publicly, deflect deflect deflect! In the NSBR world, that means start a thread about a gaffe someone else made without admitting you actually stuck your foot in your own mouth. |
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Post by femalebusiness on Oct 2, 2022 3:53:44 GMT
The OP is just mad about the woke teaching thread and thought she’d get back with this nothing burger. I have to wonder at anyone who thinks there is room for “good discussion” with the right at this point in history. Are they even paying attention? How can you listen with a straight face to someone whose entire perspective is based on lies? Seriously. In a tactic taken from the Trump playbook, if embarrassed by a stupid claim you make publicly, deflect deflect deflect! In the NSBR world, that means start a thread about a gaffe someone else made without admitting you actually stuck your foot in your own mouth. So much this!! |
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Post by J u l e e on Oct 2, 2022 12:25:38 GMT
The OP is just mad about the woke teaching thread and thought she’d get back with this nothing burger. I have to wonder at anyone who thinks there is room for “good discussion” with the right at this point in history. Are they even paying attention? How can you listen with a straight face to someone whose entire perspective is based on lies? Seriously. In a tactic taken from the Trump playbook, if embarrassed by a stupid claim you make publicly, deflect deflect deflect! In the NSBR world, that means start a thread about a gaffe someone else made without admitting you actually stuck your foot in your own mouth. Another page from Trump’s playbook is to claim to not know about the person in question. “Eh, I don’t read Trump threads.” “MTG? I know nothing about her. I don’t pay attention.” How do you not follow politics or political threads yet know enough to pop into a political thread and have thoughts on a gaffe Joe Biden made? Come on. |
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Post by nursema on Oct 2, 2022 13:20:32 GMT
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Post by elaine on Oct 2, 2022 15:37:41 GMT
It was a joke that Colin Jost told as part of Weekend Update. 😀 |
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Post by sasha on Oct 2, 2022 16:41:35 GMT
One of the joys one encounters when they enter the 70s and beyond is sometimes they forget something. But that no way means as someone rudely suggested “they aren’t all there”, it just means they forgot something at that particular moment. An example. I was having a conversation with a friend about what I thought was an ugly building recently built by me. For the life of me I couldn’t remember one specific term I wanted to use to describe the building. So after struggling for a time we changed the subject. About an hour after the conversation, out of no where, the term popped into my mind. Curb appeal. It happens but means nothing. If one has been paying attention Joe Biden is always giving remarks about something. Sometimes twice a day. And he holds a lot meetings. If he “wasn’t all there” the people around him would limit his public time kind of like they did with Reagan at the end of his term. But they aren’t. I have always referred to Joe Biden as ‘Uncle Fluffy” because over the years he has said something that makes one go huh. That has not changed. At the same time I have noticed how quick he can make a remark, when it’s not prepared, that makes the point he is trying to make. He also has a sense of humor a lot of people are either not getting or deliberately ignoring for the simple reason to make him look bad by suggesting “he’s not all there”. I do agree people in their 70’s+ should not run for President in general. But at the same time we can’t dismiss candidates that have the ability to do the job because they are gay, or a woman or a person of color or because they come from California. Bottom line, as someone who is in their 70’s and carefully watching President Biden’s words and actions, I think he’s doing just fine. Suggesting he's not "all there" on a message board is rude? It's not like I walked up to Jill Biden and said her husband may be suffering from dementia. I'm not basing my comment on one forgetful moment. He's had multiple gaffes, looks of confusion and has concerning moments that his staff having to cover for him. I do not think he has the capacity to run again (please Hillary run!). You apparently have reasons why you don't think someone 70 and up shouldn't run for the highest office in the US. I presume that's because you are worried about their physical and mental dexterity? |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 2, 2022 17:29:03 GMT
...worried about their physical and mental dexterity?
Biden beats many in the abilities in both areas!
My mind is good, my mouth does not always cooperate. I have a collection of a Star Wars character. I had a friend visiting and I could not say his name.. I said oh, him!
My physical dexterity is slower. I can do almost anything while sitting down, but walking not so much. I use a walk, that surely does NOT affect my mind, thinking or such. When my computer died I, all by myself, figured how to do things in my phone, even posting here!!
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Post by Laurie on Oct 2, 2022 17:50:01 GMT
Seriously. In a tactic taken from the Trump playbook, if embarrassed by a stupid claim you make publicly, deflect deflect deflect! In the NSBR world, that means start a thread about a gaffe someone else made without admitting you actually stuck your foot in your own mouth. Another page from Trump’s playbook is to claim to not know about the person in question. “Eh, I don’t read Trump threads.” “MTG? I know nothing about her. I don’t pay attention.” How do you not follow politics or political threads yet know enough to pop into a political thread and have thoughts on a gaffe Joe Biden made? Come on. I made a comment that I don't read the Trump threads anymore. I don't want to be judged as taking out of his playbook so I would like to explain where I am coming from. We all know Trump is an ego maniac. He is like a 2 year old child that any attention, whether good or bad, is attention to him. He thrives on it. He loves that people are still talking about him. The news is still reporting on him heavily and you just know that he is soaking it up. I visit the various news websites daily but I don't open up very many of the links about him. Same with threads here. I just want to move on from him. You know like a bad ex-boyfriend that after the breakup you like to pretend like he doesn't even exist anymore...that is where I am at. Or when you have these good pictures of yourself but that toxic ex-bf is in it so you cut him out but keep the photo of you. I try to do that here. Open the threads that showcase our greatness and cut out the ones that involves him. I have never commented on MTG but I will give you a perspective. I know who she is. I.CAN.NOT.STAND.THAT.WOMAN. I always try to find the good in everyone and fully believe that every single person has at least one good quality about them. I can't find one for her. I have a very strong negative reaction whenever I see her name so I have yet to open up a news story on her. With Trump I do think he believes the shit that he spews out of his mouth. It is his true feelings even as deplorable as they are. With MTG I think she says things solely for the shock and awe. It is her way of staying relevant. She angers me way to much to even read about her yet alone try to have a discussion about her. I don't even know how to convey how strongly I feel about my strong dislike for this woman. |
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Post by smasonnc on Oct 2, 2022 18:40:18 GMT
I voted for him and these "gaffes" scare me. I do think he's not all there. Same here, but the alternative was just too awful. He could go full on Weekend at Bernie’s and I’d still vote for him over Trump. The Faux News junkies love this $#*t so everybody wins. |
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Post by nursema on Oct 2, 2022 18:52:03 GMT
It was a joke that Colin Jost told as part of Weekend Update. 😀 Thank you! I was only half watching when it aired and we just turned it back on so that I could refresh my lousy memory! |
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Post by Merge on Oct 2, 2022 21:14:44 GMT
I voted for him and these "gaffes" scare me. I do think he's not all there. Same here, but the alternative was just too awful. He could go full on Weekend at Bernie’s and I’d still vote for him over Trump. The Faux News junkies love this $#*t so everybody wins. Every time my husband pokes fun at one of Biden’s gaffes, I shrug. He wasn’t my candidate. He’s the candidate we got because half of America doesn’t think a woman or a gay man are “electable.” I voted for him because, as you say, the alternative was unthinkable. I’ve never had cause to regret my choice in the general, but I regret every day that out of that pool of candidates, he’s the one we nominated. And no I don’t think he’s senile. I just think he’s kind of weak and ineffectual. |
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Post by aj2hall on Oct 3, 2022 0:00:26 GMT
Another page from Trump’s playbook is to claim to not know about the person in question. “Eh, I don’t read Trump threads.” “MTG? I know nothing about her. I don’t pay attention.” How do you not follow politics or political threads yet know enough to pop into a political thread and have thoughts on a gaffe Joe Biden made? Come on. I made a comment that I don't read the Trump threads anymore. I don't want to be judged as taking out of his playbook so I would like to explain where I am coming from. We all know Trump is an ego maniac. He is like a 2 year old child that any attention, whether good or bad, is attention to him. He thrives on it. He loves that people are still talking about him. The news is still reporting on him heavily and you just know that he is soaking it up. I visit the various news websites daily but I don't open up very many of the links about him. Same with threads here. I just want to move on from him. You know like a bad ex-boyfriend that after the breakup you like to pretend like he doesn't even exist anymore...that is where I am at. Or when you have these good pictures of yourself but that toxic ex-bf is in it so you cut him out but keep the photo of you. I try to do that here. Open the threads that showcase our greatness and cut out the ones that involves him. I have never commented on MTG but I will give you a perspective. I know who she is. I.CAN.NOT.STAND.THAT.WOMAN. I always try to find the good in everyone and fully believe that every single person has at least one good quality about them. I can't find one for her. I have a very strong negative reaction whenever I see her name so I have yet to open up a news story on her. With Trump I do think he believes the shit that he spews out of his mouth. It is his true feelings even as deplorable as they are. With MTG I think she says things solely for the shock and awe. It is her way of staying relevant. She angers me way to much to even read about her yet alone try to have a discussion about her. I don't even know how to convey how strongly I feel about my strong dislike for this woman. I think the comment about MTG was directed at someone else who popped into a political thread, criticized everyone for their harsh comments of MTG then claimed she paid as little attention as possible to politics and didn't know who MTG was. That's entirely possible, but MTG gets a lot of coverage in the media, both mainstream and conservative for her crazy comments. |
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Post by Laurie on Oct 3, 2022 0:40:03 GMT
I made a comment that I don't read the Trump threads anymore. I don't want to be judged as taking out of his playbook so I would like to explain where I am coming from. We all know Trump is an ego maniac. He is like a 2 year old child that any attention, whether good or bad, is attention to him. He thrives on it. He loves that people are still talking about him. The news is still reporting on him heavily and you just know that he is soaking it up. I visit the various news websites daily but I don't open up very many of the links about him. Same with threads here. I just want to move on from him. You know like a bad ex-boyfriend that after the breakup you like to pretend like he doesn't even exist anymore...that is where I am at. Or when you have these good pictures of yourself but that toxic ex-bf is in it so you cut him out but keep the photo of you. I try to do that here. Open the threads that showcase our greatness and cut out the ones that involves him. I have never commented on MTG but I will give you a perspective. I know who she is. I.CAN.NOT.STAND.THAT.WOMAN. I always try to find the good in everyone and fully believe that every single person has at least one good quality about them. I can't find one for her. I have a very strong negative reaction whenever I see her name so I have yet to open up a news story on her. With Trump I do think he believes the shit that he spews out of his mouth. It is his true feelings even as deplorable as they are. With MTG I think she says things solely for the shock and awe. It is her way of staying relevant. She angers me way to much to even read about her yet alone try to have a discussion about her. I don't even know how to convey how strongly I feel about my strong dislike for this woman. I think the comment about MTG was directed at someone else who popped into a political thread, criticized everyone for their harsh comments of MTG then claimed she paid as little attention as possible to politics and didn't know who MTG was. That's entirely possible, but MTG gets a lot of coverage in the media, both mainstream and conservative for her crazy comments. Yeah, I know that part wasn’t directed at me. I just had to take a moment to rant because I can’t stand her and was hoping that maybe a rant would help with my extreme hatred of her. It didn’t. |
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Post by J u l e e on Oct 3, 2022 11:34:05 GMT
I think the comment about MTG was directed at someone else who popped into a political thread, criticized everyone for their harsh comments of MTG then claimed she paid as little attention as possible to politics and didn't know who MTG was. That's entirely possible, but MTG gets a lot of coverage in the media, both mainstream and conservative for her crazy comments. Yeah, I know that part wasn’t directed at me. I just had to take a moment to rant because I can’t stand her and was hoping that maybe a rant would help with my extreme hatred of her. It didn’t. It’s not typical of me to copy or tag people when I comment because I don’t want it to seem like it’s personal or because I don’t like the poster. Even though you mention that you don’t read political threads, my comment truly wasn’t directed at you. You are just one of several posters that claim to not read political threads but must read enough for me to notice that you (general) DO show up on political threads, mostly when it’s time to question something a democrat has done (said the wrong name) but not to, say, denounce tweeted racism or violence (Kristin’s thread). We are wondering when/what is going to be the tweet or the Truth post or the horrific comment on Fox that is going to be the thing that finally causes as much pause to Republicans as Biden stuttering. But I’m convinced it’s never because it doesn’t seem like those things are being seen, read, heard by the same people who like to show concern for President Biden’s mental state. It’s frustrating to hear “I don’t pay attention to Trump or MTG or watch Tucker Carlson” but I damn well have something to say about frail JB. However my my frustration is not at you personally, Laurie . I apologize if it felt like a specific call out. But not paying attention to Trump et al is what got us here and I’m tired of threads like this. |
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Post by Laurie on Oct 3, 2022 19:34:17 GMT
Yeah, I know that part wasn’t directed at me. I just had to take a moment to rant because I can’t stand her and was hoping that maybe a rant would help with my extreme hatred of her. It didn’t. It’s not typical of me to copy or tag people when I comment because I don’t want it to seem like it’s personal or because I don’t like the poster. Even though you mention that you don’t read political threads, my comment truly wasn’t directed at you. You are just one of several posters that claim to not read political threads but must read enough for me to notice that you (general) DO show up on political threads, mostly when it’s time to question something a democrat has done (said the wrong name) but not to, say, denounce tweeted racism or violence (Kristin’s thread). We are wondering when/what is going to be the tweet or the Truth post or the horrific comment on Fox that is going to be the thing that finally causes as much pause to Republicans as Biden stuttering. But I’m convinced it’s never because it doesn’t seem like those things are being seen, read, heard by the same people who like to show concern for President Biden’s mental state. It’s frustrating to hear “I don’t pay attention to Trump or MTG or watch Tucker Carlson” but I damn well have something to say about frail JB. However my my frustration is not at you personally, Laurie . I apologize if it felt like a specific call out. But not paying attention to Trump et al is what got us here and I’m tired of threads like this. I hear you and fwiw I did state on this thread that I didn't think it was a big deal and not earth shattering so I wasn't here to rail on him. However, if I am to be honest I do think he may be too old. I thought that on Trump as well and I would say it on anyone at his age that is POTUS. I will probably get raked over the coals for this but even 60s is getting iffy to me. I say this because I am starting to see the change in my 64yo dad. Don't get me wrong he is still successfully running our manufacturing business and he is still sharp but not like he was in his "prime" kwim. I think the President of our country (whomever it is at the time) should be at the top of his/her game and I am just not sure anyone is like that in their 60s. Hell I am almost 47 and I think I am no longer at the top of my game.  |
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Post by morecowbell on Oct 5, 2022 0:55:35 GMT
Yes, Biden made a gaffe.
🤷♀️You misspoke on the woke thread, mischaracterizing what the YPAR program is called and teaches. What does that say about you? I didn't mischaracterize the YPAR program. I didn't say a single thing about it. What I did do is provide an answer to the op's question. But now you are completely mischaracterizing what I said. |
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Post by morecowbell on Oct 5, 2022 0:58:58 GMT
I’m a moderate Republican who voted for Biden in the last election. I found this “gaffe” to be concerning. I was shocked and saddened when Rep. Walorski died, and I had barely heard of her before her accident. Biden actually called her family to express his sympathy, so I would expect him to remember her death. (A president makes a lot of sympathy calls, but a call concerning the sudden death of a sitting congressperson would surely be memorable). He is a busy man with a lot on his plate, but as he was preparing for this event, I can’t imagine that his aides didn’t remind him of Rep. Walorski’s work in this area and of her recent death. This may have just been an ordinary mental slip which we all have from time to time, but I also think it’s possible it’s a sign of something more serious. I know I’m taking a wait and see attitude about the event, and I’m sure other middle of the road voters are as well. Well said. |
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Post by elaine on Oct 5, 2022 1:07:33 GMT
Yes, Biden made a gaffe.
🤷♀️You misspoke on the woke thread, mischaracterizing what the YPAR program is called and teaches. What does that say about you? I didn't mischaracterize the YPAR program. I didn't say a single thing about it. What I did do is provide an answer to the op's question. But now you are completely mischaracterizing what I said. You said this, which is blatantly false: Or are you too uninformed to understand that the program you and FOX are complaining about in Albemarle Co. is called YPAR? |
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Post by morecowbell on Oct 5, 2022 1:21:38 GMT
I didn't mischaracterize the YPAR program. I didn't say a single thing about it. What I did do is provide an answer to the op's question. But now you are completely mischaracterizing what I said. You said this, which is blatantly false: Or are you too uninformed to understand that the program you and FOX are complaining about in Albemarle Co. is called YPAR? That's directly from the lawsuit. It's also representative of what some teachers, students and parents are saying publicly across the country. |
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Post by Merge on Oct 5, 2022 1:29:26 GMT
You said this, which is blatantly false: Or are you too uninformed to understand that the program you and FOX are complaining about in Albemarle Co. is called YPAR? That's directly from the lawsuit. It's also representative of what some teachers, students and parents are saying publicly across the country. The lawsuit that was dismissed with prejudice because the plaintiffs had no evidence for any of their claims? The lawsuit that was written up specifically to make dupes like you believe that this is what “people are saying across the country” and not because it had any merit whatsoever? The lawsuit that was funded by a far-right advocacy group because no real lawyer would take on a case doomed to failure? As sensitive as you are to perceived insult, I’m surprised you aren’t able to see how these litigation games are a real insult to the intelligence of those, like you, they aim to sway. |
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Post by elaine on Oct 5, 2022 1:50:33 GMT
You said this, which is blatantly false: Or are you too uninformed to understand that the program you and FOX are complaining about in Albemarle Co. is called YPAR? That's directly from the lawsuit. It's also representative of what some teachers, students and parents are saying publicly across the country. Which is why I provided links so that you could read what the program actually teaches with your own eyes and supposed functioning brain that you claim to have, rather than get all your views spoon fed to you by Fox/Breitbart/OANN. And I have asked you what you specifically thought after reading what is being taught. Several times. Giving you the benefit of the doubt that you 1) can read, and 2) are interested in facts rather that some right wing news source falsehoods. Once presented with the actual information of what the program entails, that the lawsuit was funded by a right-wing action group, and that the lawsuit was dismissed, the fact that you continue to defend your mischaracterizations rather than own up to a mistake, just points to your lack of bells, ethics, and integrity. |
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Post by morecowbell on Oct 5, 2022 2:31:59 GMT
That's directly from the lawsuit. It's also representative of what some teachers, students and parents are saying publicly across the country. Which is why I provided links so that you could read what the program actually teaches with your own eyes and supposed functioning brain that you claim to have, rather than get all your views spoon fed to you by Fox/Breitbart/OANN. And I have asked you what you specifically thought after reading what is being taught. Several times. Giving you the benefit of the doubt that you 1) can read, and 2) are interested in facts rather that some right wing news source falsehoods. Once presented with the actual information of what the program entails, that the lawsuit was funded by a right-wing action group, and that the lawsuit was dismissed, the fact that you continue to defend your mischaracterizations rather than own up to a mistake, just points to your lack of bells, ethics, and integrity. Great lesson plans don't prove that those other experiences aren't happening, anymore than great laws mean they aren't being broken anywhere. I'm sure the lesson plans are resulting in the intended positive outcome, but in some places it's not. In some places it's being implemented in a divisive way. That's what those people are saying. |
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Post by Merge on Oct 5, 2022 2:35:53 GMT
Which is why I provided links so that you could read what the program actually teaches with your own eyes and supposed functioning brain that you claim to have, rather than get all your views spoon fed to you by Fox/Breitbart/OANN. And I have asked you what you specifically thought after reading what is being taught. Several times. Giving you the benefit of the doubt that you 1) can read, and 2) are interested in facts rather that some right wing news source falsehoods. Once presented with the actual information of what the program entails, that the lawsuit was funded by a right-wing action group, and that the lawsuit was dismissed, the fact that you continue to defend your mischaracterizations rather than own up to a mistake, just points to your lack of bells, ethics, and integrity. Great lesson plans don't prove that those other experiences aren't happening, anymore than great laws mean they aren't being broken anywhere. I'm sure the lesson plans are resulting in the intended positive outcome, but in some places it's not. In some places it's being implemented in a divisive way. That's what those people are saying. With zero evidence. That’s what those people are making up stories about. Why do you fall for it every time? |
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Post by morecowbell on Oct 5, 2022 2:38:47 GMT
I voted for him and these "gaffes" scare me. I do think he's not all there. I agree, something's not quite right. |
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Post by aj2hall on Oct 5, 2022 3:08:54 GMT
I voted for him and these "gaffes" scare me. I do think he's not all there. I agree, something's not quite right. You've been saying that for more than 2 years. That it would become blatantly obvious he had dementia, that he wouldn't remain president for the full term etc. Still waiting for that to happen. He's made gaffes his entire career, more than 50 years. If it was something new, I might be concerned, but it's not out of character for him. |
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Post by morecowbell on Oct 5, 2022 3:27:15 GMT
I’m a moderate Republican who voted for Biden in the last election. I found this “gaffe” to be concerning. This sums it up pretty well for me. I lean more left than right but tend to be pretty moderate on most issues. I found this blunder to be concerning too. While I don't think Biden's age is necessarily relevant to his ability to do his job there are things coming out all the time that I see that just remind me of when my grandma had dementia in her early 70s. I am NOT saying that Biden has dementia, simply that some of these gaffes cause me to pause and wonder if he isn't in some type of mental decline. My grandma frequently forgot people that had died and asked about them. Aging is hard. I can't imagine trying to be a world leader in my 80s, and with how rigorous campaigning is I think it would be in his best interest as well as everyone else's if he did not run again. |
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Post by morecowbell on Oct 5, 2022 3:27:46 GMT
Trump said a lot of stupid stuff. He still does, actually. He does it because he's an egotistical buffoon. The difference with Biden is that he seems genuinely confused and unaware at times, and it's more than just misspeaking or making a simple mistake. YMMV and that's fine. |
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Post by aj2hall on Oct 5, 2022 3:31:41 GMT
Which is why I provided links so that you could read what the program actually teaches with your own eyes and supposed functioning brain that you claim to have, rather than get all your views spoon fed to you by Fox/Breitbart/OANN. And I have asked you what you specifically thought after reading what is being taught. Several times. Giving you the benefit of the doubt that you 1) can read, and 2) are interested in facts rather that some right wing news source falsehoods. Once presented with the actual information of what the program entails, that the lawsuit was funded by a right-wing action group, and that the lawsuit was dismissed, the fact that you continue to defend your mischaracterizations rather than own up to a mistake, just points to your lack of bells, ethics, and integrity. Great lesson plans don't prove that those other experiences aren't happening, anymore than great laws mean they aren't being broken anywhere. I'm sure the lesson plans are resulting in the intended positive outcome, but in some places it's not. In some places it's being implemented in a divisive way. That's what those people are saying. Interesting that you argued the exact opposite with the NH divisive concepts law. According to you, the law wasn't written to be divisive. The law was perfectly fine, it wasn't problematic, it was just left wing media twisting what Republicans were actually saying. As long as you didn't see a problem with the specific wording of the law, actual experiences of classroom teachers didn't matter. Now the actual wording of the lessons plans is irrelevant? You can't have it both ways and you can't apply different standards to fit your narrative. Do you have any actual evidence from an objective, unbiased source that shows the lesson plans are being implemented in a divisive way? |
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