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Post by morecowbell on Oct 5, 2022 3:45:12 GMT
Great lesson plans don't prove that those other experiences aren't happening, anymore than great laws mean they aren't being broken anywhere. I'm sure the lesson plans are resulting in the intended positive outcome, but in some places it's not. In some places it's being implemented in a divisive way. That's what those people are saying. Interesting that you argued the exact opposite with the NH divisive concepts law. According to you, the law wasn't written to be divisive. The law was perfectly fine, it wasn't problematic, it was just left wing media twisting what Republicans were actually saying. As long as you didn't see a problem with the specific wording of the law, actual experiences of classroom teachers didn't matter. Now the actual wording of the lessons plans is irrelevant? You can't have it both ways and you can't apply different standards to fit your narrative. Do you have any actual evidence from an objective, unbiased source that shows the lesson plans are being implemented in a divisive way? No. The argument that was being made by you was that it said something it did not say. I asked you to point it out and you wouldn't. You would only point out what the media was saying that it said. When I pointed out the specific wording you then said that "the problem was that the law did not define what devisive meant". When I pointed out that it actually did define it and quoted it, you then said "the definition is not the problem".  We've been through this conversation before. Did you forget that too? And I never said the lesson plan was irrelevant. I said that some teachers, students and parents are seeing this being implemented in a very devisive way. Both can be happening. |
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Post by aj2hall on Oct 5, 2022 11:12:43 GMT
Interesting that you argued the exact opposite with the NH divisive concepts law. According to you, the law wasn't written to be divisive. The law was perfectly fine, it wasn't problematic, it was just left wing media twisting what Republicans were actually saying. As long as you didn't see a problem with the specific wording of the law, actual experiences of classroom teachers didn't matter. Now the actual wording of the lessons plans is irrelevant? You can't have it both ways and you can't apply different standards to fit your narrative. Do you have any actual evidence from an objective, unbiased source that shows the lesson plans are being implemented in a divisive way? No. The argument that was being made by you was that it said something it did not say. I asked you to point it out and you wouldn't. You would only point out what the media was saying that it said. When I pointed out the specific wording you then said that "the problem was that the law did not define what devisive meant". When I pointed out that it actually did define it and quoted it, you then said "the definition is not the problem". We've been through this conversation before. Did you forget that too? And I never said the lesson plan was irrelevant. I said that some teachers, students and parents are seeing this being implemented in a very devisive way.
Both can be happening. I think you're the one forgetting. I pointed out last time and this is still true - the NH law is intentionally vague, to keep teachers from talking about systematic racism and avoid important conversations. Your definition, your interpretation, your perspective is irrelevant. You keep claiming this. Do you have any actual proof? Besides the lawsuit which was flawed, dismissed and biased? |
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Post by morecowbell on Oct 5, 2022 22:55:16 GMT
No. The argument that was being made by you was that it said something it did not say. I asked you to point it out and you wouldn't. You would only point out what the media was saying that it said. When I pointed out the specific wording you then said that "the problem was that the law did not define what devisive meant". When I pointed out that it actually did define it and quoted it, you then said "the definition is not the problem". We've been through this conversation before. Did you forget that too? And I never said the lesson plan was irrelevant. I said that some teachers, students and parents are seeing this being implemented in a very devisive way.
Both can be happening. I think you're the one forgetting. I pointed out last time and this is still true - the NH law is intentionally vague, to keep teachers from talking about systematic racism and avoid important conversations. Your definition, your interpretation, your perspective is irrelevant. You keep claiming this. Do you have any actual proof? Besides the lawsuit which was flawed, dismissed and biased? You pointed out that is was vague because it didn't define "devisive", when it did exactly that and I showed you where and what it said. Evidence? You've been shown videos of parents, videos of students, videos of teachers, a letter from a teacher resigning over it. |
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Post by aj2hall on Oct 5, 2022 23:08:16 GMT
The only "evidence" in Virginia is a lawsuit paid for by a far right wing group that was dismissed with prejudice in court. Your video was one person's experience at a private school, no less. www.cbs19news.com/story/46351012/lawsuit-challenging-acps-antiracism-policy-dismissedOn Friday, Judge Claude Worrell dismissed the lawsuit after ruling the plaintiffs did not have any legal basis for bringing the matter to the courts.
He had asked the plaintiffs to show "hard evidence" that the policy or how it was being applied were unlawful.
ACPS released this statement:
"Judge Worrell's decision is very encouraging to our commitment for establishing and sustaining an equitable school community that rejects all forms of racism. We’re pleased the court agreed with our position that because plaintiffs failed to identify concrete harm from the implementation of our anti-racism policy, there was no justiciable controversy for the court to decide. |
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Post by morecowbell on Oct 5, 2022 23:13:34 GMT
The only "evidence" in Virginia is a lawsuit paid for by a far right wing group that was dismissed with prejudice in court. Your video was one person's experience at a private school, no less. One person? There were several videos shown, all different people. A letter from another person. What was it you said? Oh, yeah... "but it's difficult to have a reasonable conversation if one side won't acknowledge basic facts." Indeed. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 5, 2022 23:19:23 GMT
The only "evidence" in Virginia is a lawsuit paid for by a far right wing group that was dismissed with prejudice in court. Your video was one person's experience at a private school, no less. www.cbs19news.com/story/46351012/lawsuit-challenging-acps-antiracism-policy-dismissedOn Friday, Judge Claude Worrell dismissed the lawsuit after ruling the plaintiffs did not have any legal basis for bringing the matter to the courts.
He had asked the plaintiffs to show "hard evidence" that the policy or how it was being applied were unlawful.
ACPS released this statement:
"Judge Worrell's decision is very encouraging to our commitment for establishing and sustaining an equitable school community that rejects all forms of racism. We’re pleased the court agreed with our position that because plaintiffs failed to identify concrete harm from the implementation of our anti-racism policy, there was no justiciable controversy for the court to decide.Seems the plaintiffs presented little to no evidence. Sounds familiar. |
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Post by Merge on Oct 5, 2022 23:35:17 GMT
The only "evidence" in Virginia is a lawsuit paid for by a far right wing group that was dismissed with prejudice in court. Your video was one person's experience at a private school, no less. One person? There were several videos shown, all different people. A letter from another person. What was it you said? Oh, yeah... "but it's difficult to have a reasonable conversation if one side won't acknowledge basic facts." Indeed. No. Your "facts" are lies made up by people with an agenda. No one in any of the videos, letters, or lawsuits you post with regard to public schools has presented any evidence for their claims. Zero evidence. It's all lies, Gia. And we're going to call out your lies every time you post them. You are a lying liar who lies. Every time you post. |
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Post by morecowbell on Oct 5, 2022 23:38:39 GMT
One person? There were several videos shown, all different people. A letter from another person. What was it you said? Oh, yeah... "but it's difficult to have a reasonable conversation if one side won't acknowledge basic facts." Indeed. No. Your "facts" are lies made up by people with an agenda. No one in any of the videos, letters, or lawsuits you post with regard to public schools has presented any evidence for their claims. Zero evidence. It's all lies, Gia. And we're going to call out your lies every time you post them. You are a lying liar who lies. Every time you post. I posted what people were saying their experience has been. That doesn't make me a liar. |
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Post by Merge on Oct 5, 2022 23:43:28 GMT
No. Your "facts" are lies made up by people with an agenda. No one in any of the videos, letters, or lawsuits you post with regard to public schools has presented any evidence for their claims. Zero evidence. It's all lies, Gia. And we're going to call out your lies every time you post them. You are a lying liar who lies. Every time you post. I posted what people were saying their experience has been. That doesn't make me a liar. Wrong. Spreading lies makes you a liar. Your assertions that "this" is happening all across the country are also lies. |
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Post by Merge on Oct 5, 2022 23:45:36 GMT
The only "evidence" in Virginia is a lawsuit paid for by a far right wing group that was dismissed with prejudice in court. Your video was one person's experience at a private school, no less. www.cbs19news.com/story/46351012/lawsuit-challenging-acps-antiracism-policy-dismissedOn Friday, Judge Claude Worrell dismissed the lawsuit after ruling the plaintiffs did not have any legal basis for bringing the matter to the courts.
He had asked the plaintiffs to show "hard evidence" that the policy or how it was being applied were unlawful.
ACPS released this statement:
"Judge Worrell's decision is very encouraging to our commitment for establishing and sustaining an equitable school community that rejects all forms of racism. We’re pleased the court agreed with our position that because plaintiffs failed to identify concrete harm from the implementation of our anti-racism policy, there was no justiciable controversy for the court to decide.Seems the plaintiffs presented little to no evidence. Sounds familiar. I mean, every kid and teacher in school has a phone with a video camera in it, but not one of them has video of what they say is happening? Please. |
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Post by elaine on Oct 6, 2022 0:01:16 GMT
No. Your "facts" are lies made up by people with an agenda. No one in any of the videos, letters, or lawsuits you post with regard to public schools has presented any evidence for their claims. Zero evidence. It's all lies, Gia. And we're going to call out your lies every time you post them. You are a lying liar who lies. Every time you post. I posted what people were saying their experience has been. That doesn't make me a liar. To quote Merge: “Wrong. Spreading lies makes you a liar. Your assertions that "this" is happening all across the country are also lies.” |
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Post by morecowbell on Oct 6, 2022 1:32:41 GMT
I posted what people were saying their experience has been. That doesn't make me a liar. To quote Merge: “Wrong. Spreading lies makes you a liar. Your assertions that "this" is happening all across the country are also lies.” Sorry no. You're not the authority over what those people experienced. |
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Post by femalebusiness on Oct 6, 2022 1:38:48 GMT
I see the cow is shiting all over the board again.😂🤣😂
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Post by Merge on Oct 6, 2022 1:47:13 GMT
To quote Merge: “Wrong. Spreading lies makes you a liar. Your assertions that "this" is happening all across the country are also lies.” Sorry no. You're not the authority over what those people experienced. They have produced no evidence to support what they supposedly experienced. None. In today's world, where there is video taken of damn near everything that happens, they have nothing. No witnesses, no supporting documentation, nothing. They're liars, and you're a liar by extension. |
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Post by elaine on Oct 6, 2022 1:57:04 GMT
To quote Merge: “Wrong. Spreading lies makes you a liar. Your assertions that "this" is happening all across the country are also lies.” Sorry no. You're not the authority over what those people experienced. Why do you have an issue with what I said? I’m just quoting what someone else said. So, it is perfectly okay for me to echo that assertion. In other words, the exact thing you did regarding YPAR and Albemarle schools. So, you can't possibly have a problem with me quoting what someone else said about you as fact. See how that works? 😂😂😂 |
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Post by morecowbell on Oct 6, 2022 2:09:35 GMT
Sorry no. You're not the authority over what those people experienced. Why do you have an issue with what I said? I’m just quoting what someone else said. So, it is perfectly okay for me to echo that assertion. In other words, the exact thing you did regarding YPAR and Albemarle schools. So, you can't possibly have a problem with me quoting what someone else said about you as fact. See how that works? 😂😂😂 Nope. Not the same at all. Completely false comparison. |
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Post by Merge on Oct 6, 2022 2:38:47 GMT
Why do you have an issue with what I said? I’m just quoting what someone else said. So, it is perfectly okay for me to echo that assertion. In other words, the exact thing you did regarding YPAR and Albemarle schools. So, you can't possibly have a problem with me quoting what someone else said about you as fact. See how that works? 😂😂😂 Nope. Not the same at all. Completely false comparison. You're right! The people you're posting about have provided no evidence for their claims, but we have ample evidence right on this thread that you're a liar. |
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Post by morecowbell on Oct 6, 2022 4:20:16 GMT
Nope. Not the same at all. Completely false comparison. You're right! The people you're posting about have provided no evidence for their claims, but we have ample evidence right on this thread that you're a liar. I posted what people were saying their experience has been. That doesn't make me a liar. And you aren't the authority over their experience. |
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Post by Merge on Oct 6, 2022 12:37:43 GMT
You're right! The people you're posting about have provided no evidence for their claims, but we have ample evidence right on this thread that you're a liar. I posted what people were saying their experience has been. That doesn't make me a liar. And you aren't the authority over their experience. The burden of proof in making claims, particularly claims designed to bring down institutions as these are, is on the person making the claims. They’ve provided nothing. You are not the authority over what is happening in public schools as you haven’t been in one since you left school yourself - or perhaps not at all. You’re spreading the lies that people tell without any evidence that their report is supported by facts. That makes you a liar by extension. And as long as you persist in being an unthinking shill for people whose sole aim is to end public schools so they can profit off the private version, you will be a liar. Get used to it. A big part of the problem with Trumpism is y'all's unwillingness (or inability) to critically examine what you're being told. You're being lied to, and in repeating the lies without even looking for evidence, you become complicit in the lies. Your right wing leaders are counting on the fact that you just believe what they feed you, and you fall for it every time. |
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Post by onelasttime on Oct 6, 2022 15:07:19 GMT
Back to the subject of the thread.
Joe Biden has always made gaffes in fact if you google it there are sites that list them from the 1980s through now.
And people have remarked on these gaffes through the years. But the minute he reached a certain age the things he has done for decades suddenly turn into comments of “he’s not all there”.
Here is his schedule for today. Yesterday he was in Florida, Monday he was in Puerto Rico. If he was “not all there” his wife, I have no doubt, would find ways so he didn’t keep a schedule like he has been keeping. It would be her way of protecting her husband.
As to calling for Jackie. The Congresswoman has only been dead for two months. She was not his BFF in that she didn’t spent a lot of time with the President. As with all presidents he has a lot on his plate like keeping the United States out of a nuclear war with Russia among other things. So he forgot she was dead, we all forget things so cut the man some slack and quit parroting the right’s talking points.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Oct 6, 2022 15:36:57 GMT
Joe Biden has always made gaffes in fact if you google it there are sites that list them from the 1980s through now.And people have remarked on these gaffes through the years. But the minute he reached a certain age the things he has done for decades suddenly turn into comments of “he’s not all there”. THIS. It's all a bunch of nothing. Some people flub saying things. They just do. But that doesn't mean 'omg, they must have dementia' right off the bat just because of their age. (And Joe Biden is NOT going around boasting about remembering the words 'person, woman, man, camera, TV' from 'acing an intelligence test' because he doesn't NEED to. We can all SEE that he's intelligent.) |
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Post by morecowbell on Oct 6, 2022 20:55:51 GMT
All of this TOGETHER, IN ONE PERSON, certainly doesn't look good for cognitive capabilities.
Thinking he's running for United States Senate, (at least twice) when he was running for president,
rambling on about a guy named Cornpop while reminiscing about letting kids playing with his leg hair decades ago,
repeatedly not understanding not to read the stage directions,
standing trance like while holding an imaginary steering wheel? while looking off into the distance instead of looking at the the person asking you the question,
saying "We're in the process of deciding what I think." in response to a reporter's question,
forgetting words, concepts, people's names and that this is the Biden presidency -not the Harris presidency,
admitting that "they" won't let you take questions -saying that "they" are going to be mad at him if he does,
repeatedly being guided around with hands on, moving him around like you would a 5 year old. Even they TREAT him like a man in a diminished mental state.
The press guy talking about when Joe was recovering from covid the first time, he said that Joe actually held up his plate to show him he ate everything on his plate. Like a 3 year old.
According to the press secretary she and her family is top of mind because she died, but he still thinks that she’s living and in the room.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 6, 2022 21:05:20 GMT
Same list...
Another day..
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Post by aj2hall on Oct 6, 2022 21:14:24 GMT
Same list... Another day.. Exactly. And there's a reasonable explanation for most of the things on his lost. They don't add up to dementia no matter how many times you repeat the list. Unless you're looking for dementia and then, it's probably just a confirmation bias. |
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Post by Merge on Oct 6, 2022 21:33:24 GMT
Same list... Another day.. Exactly. And there's a reasonable explanation for most of the things on his lost. They don't add up to dementia no matter how many times you repeat the list. Unless you're looking for dementia and then, it's probably just a confirmation bias. The right is desperate to pin dementia on a Democratic president because, in living memory, they've had two presidents with clear cognitive impairment. They're desperate to assign supposed crimes to Democratic presidents and administrations because every single Republican president since Nixon has had significant scandal and/or crimes attached to their administrations. They have to tell lies to get people to vote for them because they don't have any ideas or any desire to lead. They've done nothing to improve the lives of regular Americans. They substitute jingoism and faux-patriotic groupthink for "unity" and label any dissent from their white, Christian, patriarchal vision for America as "divisive." |
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Post by femalebusiness on Oct 6, 2022 21:50:14 GMT
Weren't any of you paying attention during Reagan's last term? The lights were on but it was very obvious that no one was home. He for real had Alzheimers and anyone paying attention knew that. Nancy and his team covered it up.
Did all you right wing Biden bashers sit around ringing your hands worrying that Reagan was senile? If not shut the fuck up.
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Post by onelasttime on Oct 6, 2022 22:01:22 GMT
All of this TOGETHER, IN ONE PERSON, certainly doesn't look good for cognitive capabilities. Thinking he's running for United States Senate, (at least twice) when he was running for president, So what? People of all ages do things like that.rambling on about a guy named Cornpop while reminiscing about letting kids playing with his leg hair decades ago, He has always done stuff like this, that is why I refer to him as Uncle Fluffy. Check google and read some of the stuff he has been saying since the 1980s.repeatedly not understanding not to read the stage directions, standing trance like while holding an imaginary steering wheel? while looking off into the distance instead of looking at the the person asking you the question, A lot of people don’t look at the people they are talking to. He has many times said he was a car guy. How do you know they weren’t talking about cars?saying "We're in the process of deciding what I think." in response to a reporter's question, Did you ever consider he’s joking? forgetting words, concepts, people's names and that this is the Biden presidency -not the Harris presidency, You do know that both him and the VP refer to the presidency as the Biden-Harris Presidency when they talk about what they are doing don’t you? So one day either he didn’t say Biden or he did and nobody heard him. admitting that "they" won't let you take questions -saying that "they" are going to be mad at him if he does, Again how do you know he isn’t pulling their leg and messing with the reporters? repeatedly being guided around with hands on, moving him around like you would a 5 year old. Even they TREAT him like a man in a diminished mental state. I’m assuming you are talking about events here. You do understand that Presidents don’t plan these events right? The staff does. So when a president shows up, it’s up to the staff to get them to the right spot and sometimes a president is thinking of multiple things, especially if they are giving a speech and isn’t paying attention to the staff so the staff moves him to the right spot. The press guy talking about when Joe was recovering from covid the first time, he said that Joe actually held up his plate to show him he ate everything on his plate. Like a 3 year old. Again how do you know he wasn’t messing with him?According to the press secretary she and her family is top of mind because she died, but he still thinks that she’s living and in the room. Hmm, this makes absolutely no sense so maybe you’re not all there. Should we be concerned?If you want to see someone who is struggling then look at Diane Feinstein. She is really struggling and I sincerely hope after the mid-term elections Gavin Newsom has a conversation with her and she resigns since she has another two years until her term is up. She has done a good job for CA over the years but now it’s time she leaves the senate. Joe Biden is nowhere near that point. But you are good little parrot repeating the rights talking points without actually stopping to think if there is really anything to what the right is claiming or if it’s just their attempt to suggest something that doesn’t really exist. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 6, 2022 22:49:11 GMT
Bravo!!!
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Post by lucyg on Oct 6, 2022 23:33:21 GMT
Do I need to re-post the video of Donald Trump getting off Air Force One, carefully walking around the car that was waiting for him at the foot of the steps, and wandering off alone into the dark? The Secret Service agent had to go retrieve him.
How about the Revolutionary War airports?
The time he started talking about “his” black guy at a rally?
Remind me again why we're worrying about Joe Biden’s mental state?
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Post by morecowbell on Oct 7, 2022 0:05:04 GMT
All of this TOGETHER, IN ONE PERSON, certainly doesn't look good for cognitive capabilities. standing trance like while holding an imaginary steering wheel? while looking off into the distance instead of looking at the the person asking you the question, A lot of people don’t look at the people they are talking to. He has many times said he was a car guy. How do you know they weren’t talking about cars?repeatedly being guided around with hands on, moving him around like you would a 5 year old. Even they TREAT him like a man in a diminished mental state. I’m assuming you are talking about events here. You do understand that Presidents don’t plan these events right? The staff does. So when a president shows up, it’s up to the staff to get them to the right spot and sometimes a president is thinking of multiple things, especially if they are giving a speech and isn’t paying attention to the staff so the staff moves him to the right spot. Show me even one other president who wasn't showing signs of dementia that was being physically moved around by the shoulders like a 3 year old.According to the press secretary she and her family is top of mind because she died, but he still thinks that she’s living and in the room. Hmm, this makes absolutely no sense so maybe you’re not all there. Should we be concerned?
Of course it doesn't make sense, that's what people are saying.
If she's top of Joe's mind because she died, as the press secretary is saying (to cover up his confusion), he wouldn't be looking and calling for her, as if she's alive.They are not talking about cars. This is not normal behavior. |
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