pinklady
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Post by pinklady on Nov 9, 2022 23:02:39 GMT
Wow just wow! The fact that you are even trying to compare a literal vegetable to Warnock and calling them equal is mind blowing. Where did I compare the two? Specifically, please Honestly, your entire post sounds like a comparison to me but specifically this "for as much as Walker is referred to as a puppet, Warnock really isn’t any better."
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Post by bc2ca on Nov 9, 2022 23:16:35 GMT
I know nothing about who he was up against in the primaries, but none of them had a chance. Walker was handpicked by TFG and his hybrid central casting/mafia approach to politics. Who looks the part and will be loyal. I wish passing a basic civics test was part of the nomination process. He was up against Raphael Warnock who was elected to fill a vacant seat a year or so ago (I think). He is well spoken and intelligent from interviews I have seen. This isnt a case of holding your nose and voting for Warnock. From all evidence, he has done a great job. Walker is up against Warnock in the general election. I was talking about knowing nothing about who Walker beat in the GOP primary to get to the general election. Taking a quick look, there were 5 other candidates but the fix was in for Walker. ETA should have finished reading the thread and just dittoed iamkristinl16.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2022 23:30:56 GMT
Where did I compare the two? Specifically, please Honestly, your entire post sounds like a comparison to me but specifically this "for as much as Walker is referred to as a puppet, Warnock really isn’t any better." So basically you were looking for me to post in agreement with everyone else. You weren’t really interested in thoughts and hostility free dialogue. As far as the specific comment about puppetry, I suppose you could call that a comparison. I didn’t intend for it to be a comparison but that doesn’t mean that I’m not bothered with the fact that so much money is pouring in from out of state. I don’t feel Warnock is looking to represent me. I suppose more money is on the way, for sure. As far as the “comparison” in the rest of my post, again I simply tried to have non hostile dialogue. Sometimes I do forget that it really doesn’t exist here. Silly me for trying to discuss. Keep in mind that Kemp received more than 200,000 votes than Walker. If it was straight up Republicans voting for Walker only because he’s a Republican, his number would’ve been much closer to Kemp’s number. I think plenty of Republicans couldn’t vote for him…but Warnock still could not beat him outright. I think that’s quite telling and again I will state that there appear to be plenty of Georgians unhappy with Warnock.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Nov 9, 2022 23:39:16 GMT
The fact that Warnock cannot defeat a candidate as ill-qualified as Walker says a lot in regards to how unhappy many Georgians are with Warnock. Georgia deserves better than what either of these candidates offer. I saw a story on the local news (that has been no friend to Walker) detailing the amount of campaign contributions from outside GA. The people outside of GA sure do want Warnock elected. That truly concerned me and for as much as Walker is referred to as a puppet, Warnock really isn’t any better. It sucks that there’s no better option on the ticket to represent my state I think it says more about the voters in Georgia than it does about Warnock. Especially given that they also elect MTG and he won the primary. That is who Georgians apparently want.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Nov 9, 2022 23:41:10 GMT
I do wonder if Walker has CTE. I can't come up with any other explanation. Warnock is a bit boring, but I will take boring over any day. He said that he has multiple personality disorder/DID. I’m not sure who diagnosed that or when, but it does appear that he has a lot of issues. He also may not have ever been that smart (not that DID correlates to intelligence). Also, money is being sent from out of state voters for a lot of elections, for Republicans and democrats. That is because those candidates affect us all. Georgians may choose to elect MTG and Hershel Walker to represent them. But they make laws that affect us all. Many of us are tired of the circus that they create. Me sending money to warnock or any other candidate doesn’t mean they are puppets of the Democratic Party. It means that we support them and want to help fund their campaign so they can put up the best fight possible. How much outside money has been spent on Walker’s campaign?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2022 23:43:02 GMT
Just realized this…if Walker got those 200,000 + votes that Kemp got, there would be no run off as he would’ve easily defeated Warnock.
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Post by sideways on Nov 9, 2022 23:51:04 GMT
Anyone who thinks he’d make a good senator is as stupid and crazy as he is.
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Post by Dani-Mani on Nov 9, 2022 23:52:26 GMT
Just realized this…if Walker got those 200,000 + votes that Kemp got, there would be no run off as he would’ve easily defeated Warnock. As I told my family last night… There’s many a republican who didn’t vote in that race because they had a choice between two black men. For those republicans, he never stood a chance, which is why I’m stunned everyone thought he would win. Racism wins over party lines, every time.
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Post by pinklady on Nov 9, 2022 23:54:29 GMT
Honestly, your entire post sounds like a comparison to me but specifically this "for as much as Walker is referred to as a puppet, Warnock really isn’t any better." So basically you were looking for me to post in agreement with everyone else. You weren’t really interested in thoughts and hostility free dialogue. As far as the specific comment about puppetry, I suppose you could call that a comparison. I didn’t intend for it to be a comparison but that doesn’t mean that I’m not bothered with the fact that so much money is pouring in from out of state. I don’t feel Warnock is looking to represent me. I suppose more money is on the way, for sure. As far as the “comparison” in the rest of my post, again I simply tried to have non hostile dialogue. Sometimes I do forget that it really doesn’t exist here. Silly me for trying to discuss. Keep in mind that Kemp received more than 200,000 votes than Walker. If it was straight up Republicans voting for Walker only because he’s a Republican, his number would’ve been much closer to Kemp’s number. I think plenty of Republicans couldn’t vote for him…but Warnock still could not beat him outright. I think that’s quite telling and again I will state that there appear to be plenty of Georgians unhappy with Warnock. I wasn't looking for anything and I wasn't "hostile". You on the other hand are being a defensive ass over Hershel Walker! I just cannot believe anyone could equate Warnock to walker. Anyone with a brain can see there is no comparison. One is a vegetable and one is a human being that can actually speak. The ONLY reason walker is getting any votes is because he is republican not because he'd be a good senator...which by the way was the actual question in the OP. At the very least be honest and admit that. I mean the shit I just flushed down the toilet would be a better senator than Hershel Walker.
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Post by onelasttime on Nov 10, 2022 0:15:34 GMT
I think the question to ask those who voted for Walker is why would you vote for anyone who says stuff like this..
He is talking about wasting money on the New Green Deal because other countries aren’t going to do anything about climate change. Which is not true but that is besides the point. It’s what he said below that is the point.
“Since we don't control the air, our good air decided to float over to China's bad air, so when China gets our good air, their bad air got to move," Walker said. "So it moves over to our good air space. Then, now, we got we to clean that back up."
I was not aware that “good air” had the ability to think and make decisions.
Something is wrong with him. Either he was always this way or sadly took one too many hits on the football field. It’s becoming clear some ex players are developing brain damage as a result of their time playing professional football.
He is not someone that rational thinking people should want to represent them in Congress.
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Post by edie3 on Nov 10, 2022 0:18:38 GMT
detailing the amount of campaign contributions from outside GA. My DH is the treasurer for a candidate who ran twice (and won) for state representive. DH said it is incredible how much money comes in from out of state. And what a messed up country this is where he is even considered for a political position.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2022 0:23:20 GMT
Just realized this…if Walker got those 200,000 + votes that Kemp got, there would be no run off as he would’ve easily defeated Warnock. As I told my family last night… There’s many a republican who didn’t vote in that race because they had a choice between two black men. For those republicans, he never stood a chance, which is why I’m stunned everyone thought he would win. Racism wins over party lines, every time. That’s a good point I’d not considered.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2022 0:25:13 GMT
So basically you were looking for me to post in agreement with everyone else. You weren’t really interested in thoughts and hostility free dialogue. As far as the specific comment about puppetry, I suppose you could call that a comparison. I didn’t intend for it to be a comparison but that doesn’t mean that I’m not bothered with the fact that so much money is pouring in from out of state. I don’t feel Warnock is looking to represent me. I suppose more money is on the way, for sure. As far as the “comparison” in the rest of my post, again I simply tried to have non hostile dialogue. Sometimes I do forget that it really doesn’t exist here. Silly me for trying to discuss. Keep in mind that Kemp received more than 200,000 votes than Walker. If it was straight up Republicans voting for Walker only because he’s a Republican, his number would’ve been much closer to Kemp’s number. I think plenty of Republicans couldn’t vote for him…but Warnock still could not beat him outright. I think that’s quite telling and again I will state that there appear to be plenty of Georgians unhappy with Warnock. I wasn't looking for anything and I wasn't "hostile". You on the other hand are being a defensive ass over Hershel Walker! I just cannot believe anyone could equate Warnock to walker. Anyone with a brain can see there is no comparison. One is a vegetable and one is a human being that can actually speak. The ONLY reason walker is getting any votes is because he is republican not because he'd be a good senator...which by the way was the actual question in the OP. At the very least be honest and admit that. I mean the shit I just flushed down the toilet would be a better senator than Hershel Walker. I’m thankful that I don’t have this kind of hate and hostility on a message board or in real life. I truly wish you peace.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2022 0:25:26 GMT
So basically you were looking for me to post in agreement with everyone else. You weren’t really interested in thoughts and hostility free dialogue. As far as the specific comment about puppetry, I suppose you could call that a comparison. I didn’t intend for it to be a comparison but that doesn’t mean that I’m not bothered with the fact that so much money is pouring in from out of state. I don’t feel Warnock is looking to represent me. I suppose more money is on the way, for sure. As far as the “comparison” in the rest of my post, again I simply tried to have non hostile dialogue. Sometimes I do forget that it really doesn’t exist here. Silly me for trying to discuss. Keep in mind that Kemp received more than 200,000 votes than Walker. If it was straight up Republicans voting for Walker only because he’s a Republican, his number would’ve been much closer to Kemp’s number. I think plenty of Republicans couldn’t vote for him…but Warnock still could not beat him outright. I think that’s quite telling and again I will state that there appear to be plenty of Georgians unhappy with Warnock. I wasn't looking for anything and I wasn't "hostile". You on the other hand are being a defensive ass over Hershel Walker! I just cannot believe anyone could equate Warnock to walker. Anyone with a brain can see there is no comparison. One is a vegetable and one is a human being that can actually speak. The ONLY reason walker is getting any votes is because he is republican not because he'd be a good senator...which by the way was the actual question in the OP. At the very least be honest and admit that. I mean the shit I just flushed down the toilet would be a better senator than Hershel Walker. I’m thankful that I don’t have this kind of hate and hostility on a message board or in real life. I truly wish you peace.
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Post by aj2hall on Nov 10, 2022 0:40:24 GMT
The fact that Warnock cannot defeat a candidate as ill-qualified as Walker says a lot in regards to how unhappy many Georgians are with Warnock. Georgia deserves better than what either of these candidates offer. I saw a story on the local news (that has been no friend to Walker) detailing the amount of campaign contributions from outside GA. The people outside of GA sure do want Warnock elected. That truly concerned me and for as much as Walker is referred to as a puppet, Warnock really isn’t any better. It sucks that there’s no better option on the ticket to represent my state I'm curious why you think Warnock isn't any better? As far as out of state money, I live in NH and millions of dollars poured in from out of state. Unfortunately, in the current political climate with loose campaign finance laws, that's the norm for swing seats and swing states.
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Post by chances on Nov 10, 2022 1:51:57 GMT
The fact that Warnock cannot defeat a candidate as ill-qualified as Walker says a lot in regards to how unhappy many Georgians are with Warnock. Georgia deserves better than what either of these candidates offer. I saw a story on the local news (that has been no friend to Walker) detailing the amount of campaign contributions from outside GA. The people outside of GA sure do want Warnock elected. That truly concerned me and for as much as Walker is referred to as a puppet, Warnock really isn’t any better. It sucks that there’s no better option on the ticket to represent my state I’m from outside of GA and most of what I see are statements from Walker. What are some of the frustrations with Warnock?
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Post by silverlining on Nov 10, 2022 1:52:49 GMT
I donate money to out-of-state campaigns because it's important to me to have a Senate majority and because I live in a state where Democratic candidates for senate will win without any help from me.
I see two reasons that Warnock could not win a majority: 1) there was also a third party candidate 2) I read that 88% of evangelical Christians in Georgia prefer Walker over a candidate who has devoted his life to Jesus Christ. But I don't live in Georgia. Do you think that's accurate?
I'm astounded that you think you have two low-quality candidates to choose from unless you think any Democrat is as low-quality as a Republican who is a horrible human being with crazy ideas.
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Post by faithoverfear on Nov 10, 2022 2:13:20 GMT
Honestly, your entire post sounds like a comparison to me but specifically this "for as much as Walker is referred to as a puppet, Warnock really isn’t any better." So basically you were looking for me to post in agreement with everyone else. You weren’t really interested in thoughts and hostility free dialogue. As far as the specific comment about puppetry, I suppose you could call that a comparison. I didn’t intend for it to be a comparison but that doesn’t mean that I’m not bothered with the fact that so much money is pouring in from out of state. I don’t feel Warnock is looking to represent me. I suppose more money is on the way, for sure. As far as the “comparison” in the rest of my post, again I simply tried to have non hostile dialogue. Sometimes I do forget that it really doesn’t exist here. Silly me for trying to discuss. Keep in mind that Kemp received more than 200,000 votes than Walker. If it was straight up Republicans voting for Walker only because he’s a Republican, his number would’ve been much closer to Kemp’s number. I think plenty of Republicans couldn’t vote for him…but Warnock still could not beat him outright. I think that’s quite telling and again I will state that there appear to be plenty of Georgians unhappy with Warnock. @gajenny, thank you for sharing your thoughts. I really didn't expect anyone to share their opinions and thoughts beyond checking a box on the poll, but I am glad you did. It IS nice to know that Republicans didn't just vote for him because of the R after his name. If they would have voted for him the way they voted for Kemp, there wouldn't be a run off, like you said in another post. I do find it surprising, though I probably shouldn't, that the far right, evangelical Christians can get behind Walker, but not Warnock. Again, I don't live in Georgia, so I know next to nothing about either candidate. But Walker just seems different to me. He really has nothing going for him other than he was once a popular football player. I also am surprised, though again, I shouldn't be, that people answered my poll who said they think he will be a good senator. I would love to know what that is based on.
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Post by faithoverfear on Nov 10, 2022 2:15:40 GMT
I donate money to out-of-state campaigns because it's important to me to have a Senate majority and because I live in a state where Democratic candidates for senate will win without any help from me. I don't think out of staters sending money to Warnock is anything nefarious or new. When the senate control is so close, it is bound to happen.
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Post by lisae on Nov 10, 2022 2:34:52 GMT
The fact that Warnock cannot defeat a candidate as ill-qualified as Walker says a lot in regards to how unhappy many Georgians are with Warnock. Georgia deserves better than what either of these candidates offer. I saw a story on the local news (that has been no friend to Walker) detailing the amount of campaign contributions from outside GA. The people outside of GA sure do want Warnock elected. That truly concerned me and for as much as Walker is referred to as a puppet, Warnock really isn’t any better. It sucks that there’s no better option on the ticket to represent my state I think it says more about the voters in Georgia than it does about Warnock. Especially given that they also elect MTG and he won the primary. That is who Georgians apparently want. I'm not from Georgia but I don't think all Georgians should be blamed for Margorie Taylor Greene who represents one district in the far corner of the state. Even voters in that district aren't all responsible. Many of us are stuck with representatives who we do not want because our district is overwhelmingly of another political party.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Nov 10, 2022 2:35:49 GMT
Just realized this…if Walker got those 200,000 + votes that Kemp got, there would be no run off as he would’ve easily defeated Warnock. As I told my family last night… There’s many a republican who didn’t vote in that race because they had a choice between two black men. For those republicans, he never stood a chance, which is why I’m stunned everyone thought he would win. Racism wins over party lines, every time. That’s an interesting point. I would be curious to know how many people voted in the governors race vs congressional race.
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Post by Merge on Nov 10, 2022 2:36:03 GMT
Sending money from out of state is also one way to push back against the injustice of smaller state senators having wildly disproportionate power over the rest of the country. Fact is Georgia’s senator has control over me and mine.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Nov 10, 2022 2:40:47 GMT
I think it says more about the voters in Georgia than it does about Warnock. Especially given that they also elect MTG and he won the primary. That is who Georgians apparently want. I'm not from Georgia but I don't think all Georgians should be blamed for Margorie Taylor Greene who represents one district in the far corner of the state. Even voters in that district aren't all responsible. Many of us are stuck with representatives who we do not want because our district is overwhelmingly of another political party. I’m referring to those who DID vote for them. Clearly they are in the majority of that candidate won the primary. And if someone is comparing Warnock and Walker and saying they are the same quality of candidate, that says a lot. There is no comparison in my eyes.
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Post by Dani-Mani on Nov 10, 2022 2:41:24 GMT
As I told my family last night… There’s many a republican who didn’t vote in that race because they had a choice between two black men. For those republicans, he never stood a chance, which is why I’m stunned everyone thought he would win. Racism wins over party lines, every time. That’s an interesting point. I would be curious to know how many people voted in the governors race vs congressional race. There was a sizable difference. NBC was discussing it last night.
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Post by onelasttime on Nov 10, 2022 3:04:37 GMT
Well he is applying for a new job and any job I ever applied for I kind of had to “put my record out there “ in the interview. And the run up to the election is kind of like an interview.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Nov 10, 2022 3:22:01 GMT
Well he is applying for a new job and any job I ever applied for I kind of had to “put my record out there “ in the interview. And the run up to the election is kind of like an interview. He has the GOP victim stance down, doesn’t he.
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Post by onelasttime on Nov 10, 2022 3:48:02 GMT
Well he is applying for a new job and any job I ever applied for I kind of had to “put my record out there “ in the interview. And the run up to the election is kind of like an interview. He has the GOP victim stance down, doesn’t he. It’s not just the victim stance it’s also criticizing the other guy without offering an alternative view of what they would do differently. They do that a lot without offering any alternative vision of what they would do for the American People.
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Post by nursema on Nov 10, 2022 3:59:44 GMT
I had the TV on today while doing stuff around the house and happened to catch a segment on MSNBC during which Claire McCaskill was talking about Warnock - she went on and on about how well-liked he is within the senate, how much his colleagues respect him and enjoy working with him.
I couldn’t help but think how wildly different their experience will be in the event that Walker wins the seat. The Republicans won’t think of it as a loss, though - they will make good use of their puppet and that red seat.
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Post by greendragonlady on Nov 10, 2022 5:46:17 GMT
I do wonder if Walker has CTE. I can't come up with any other explanation. Warnock is a bit boring, but I will take boring over any day. He said that he has multiple personality disorder/DID. I’m not sure who diagnosed that or when, but it does appear that he has a lot of issues. He also may not have ever been that smart (not that DID correlates to intelligence). Also, money is being sent from out of state voters for a lot of elections, for Republicans and democrats. That is because those candidates affect us all. Georgians may choose to elect MTG and Hershel Walker to represent them. But they make laws that affect us all. Many of us are tired of the circus that they create. Me sending money to warnock or any other candidate doesn’t mean they are puppets of the Democratic Party. It means that we support them and want to help fund their campaign so they can put up the best fight possible. How much outside money has been spent on Walker’s campaign? That's what I was going to say, too. They might "represent" a certain state, but their vote affects all of us.
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Post by Zee on Nov 10, 2022 5:55:03 GMT
Once upon a time, being a wife beater who can barely form sentences would have been an automatic out --but not in today's Republican party. How shameful.
It's quite clear that rural Georgians are totally scared of black people having positions of power. And that they'd vote in someone like MTG, and re-elect her, speaks volumes.
But all I can do is vote with my conscience.
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