ModChick
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Post by ModChick on Dec 9, 2022 20:51:02 GMT
I get your point. In Canada it’s not a thing to wear shoes in the house (I actually think that’s weird and dirtier to walk into the house off the street and wear this same shoes all over your house but that’s a whole other thread we’ve all read before 🤪) and so I’ve definitely served dinner in my bare feet, in fact my guests even had bare feet. Maybe some had socks on, I don’t know don’t care. This doesn’t register as a big thing to me here. 🤷🏽♀️ I threw the dirty feet thing out there sarcastically. You guys, it's not about the bare feet specifically, it's about her mocking them and trying to act as if she's oh so down to earth and they were uptight assholes. Awhh I see. I didn’t actually see your post about it just the other more serious sounding ones. That makes sense, the whole Megan mocking their uptightness is pretty ridiculous. It’s like she wanted them to be like besties just hanging out 🤷🏽♀️
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Post by ModChick on Dec 9, 2022 20:53:23 GMT
This is all I really need to see to know I dont need to see a second more. I guess she is trying to be relatable/funny, but I don't find it all that endearing - and I'm not even British! Yes my sentiments exactly. And I’m not a Megan hater (or lover) but didn’t like this whole mocking tone.
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Post by tenacious on Dec 9, 2022 21:12:54 GMT
OMG, that clip of Megan meeting the Queen is horrible!!! Even Harry looked a little pissed at her tone. Ack!! Is she really that clueless?
Watched it again. Actually, Harry looks more than a little pissed. I hope he was, and that he talked to her about it afterward. That was a very telling clip.
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Post by birukitty on Dec 9, 2022 21:22:24 GMT
OK, I just watched and have so many opinions! A couple of main take aways: - every time they tell "their story" - it's different. The how they met story is completely different in this Netflix fairytale retelling than it has been any other time. No wonder so many people stop believing them because they show us yet again that they blatantly lie when it suits them to. So you never know which version is true. And now there's this new narrative of Meghan being a single girl on Suits living in Toronto. No mention that for the first few years she was married. In fact there's zero mention of her ever being married, or her previous 7 year relationship with Trevor. Someone used the neuralyzer from Men in Black on them and they've completely erased her ex-husband from their memories. They really are pretending that everything with Harry was her first time. - they've "never been allowed to tell their story before" So what was that with Oprah...a worldwide collective hallucination? - Meghan laughing and mocking how she had to curtsy to his (now dead but alive at the time) Grandmother, and he sits there and lets her do it. So disrespectful and immediately upped my dislike of them both up a notch. Sure, we've probably all bitched and made fun of something to do with our own families at some point - but not on a platform designed for billions of people to watch. - They are showing a whole bunch of their personal photos, Archie's nursey, Harry down on one knee proposing, kissing in the kitchen of their home...and then Harry without the slightest bit of insight or embarrassment says "it's amazing that some people will accept huge amounts of money to hand over photographs to create a story" Excuse me? Thats exactly what YOU are doing right now!! Your photos for an $80M Netflix reality show! They are in a car looking around and worrying about being filmed...while being filmed for a tell all reality show. I've said all along that it was never about them wanting privacy...they are perfectly happy to share every detail of their private lives, just not for free like they would have done while working Royals...they just wanted to be paid for it. Living in the UK as working Royals, it was a secret who Archies Godparents are, in the USA Netflix signs the multimillion-dollar cheque (check) and suddenly we're inside Archie's nursery as meets "granny Diana" in an oddly formal portrait hanging on his wall. It was also clear that they've been planning for this and filming content for quite some time. Agree with everything you posted 100%. I watched the first two episodes last night. Still have one to go. A few things that I noticed last night: Megan said she didn't know what a royal walkabout was when she and Harry were about to do their first one. Give me a break! Seriously? Unless you are part of an isolated tribe in Papua New Guinea you've seen Princess Diana and Prince Charles, or the Queen on one of their royal walkabouts in the past. Lie after lie after lie. Even if she really did not have a clue or hadn't seen one in the past you'd think she'd have a person assigned to her to help her learn her new royal duties. She also talked about getting ready for it alone, doing the makeup alone, the zipper in the dress ripping and running around trying to find a safety pin. I call bullshit. Being in the car after leaving a studio and both of them turning their heads around repeatedly in fear to check if the paparazzi was chasing them. (Pjaye you mentioned this above). I yelled at the TV "you wish the paparazzi were chasing you!" It was so fake. That's all I can remember so far-I watched it very late but I know there was a lot more. I am looking forward to reading some of the reports to come such as how many lies were told ect. That happened after the Oprah interview. The Oprah interview was bad enough. This was filled with music, lovely photos and is designed (in my opinion) to make the viewer more fully side with Megan and Harry. I think it's all about money. To me you don't talk dirty about your family on international TV especially when they can't defend themselves-their policy being "never complain, never explain". If all Harry and Megan wanted when they left the Royal family was a peaceful and safe life (Harry said "I don't want history to repeat itself" meaning how the paparazzi constantly chased his mom and possibly caused her death) then moving to the USA, living QUIETLY away from the cameras would have made sense. That is not what they've done. Instead they've done the opposite. First the Oprah interview, books and articles and now this Netflix documentary is not living away from the cameras peacefully. It's trying to keep the media's attention any way you can. That's what a narcissist does.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Dec 9, 2022 21:25:42 GMT
OMG, that clip of Megan meeting the Queen is horrible!!! Even Harry looked a little pissed at her tone. Ack!! Is she really that clueless? Watched it again. Actually, Harry looks more than a little pissed. I hope he was, and that he talked to her about it afterward. That was a very telling clip. He didn’t look happy and it almost looked like he rolled his eyes but I’m in my phone so can’t see it that well. I want to say I won’t watch but at sone point I might if I’m bored enough or depending on what is said about it online. I am not a formal person but can’t imagine meeting Will and Kate in ripped jeans and bare footed. They always look so polished. I know we only see photos of them in public or photos they approve but … I can’t imagine them going someplace and being that casual especially for a first meeting. Making fun of meeting the queen 🤦♀️ Ouch.
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Post by ChicagoKTS on Dec 9, 2022 21:29:36 GMT
I have never watched real housewives of anywhere or anything with the Kardasians so I will likely watch all of those before anything with Harry and company. In other words, never. I will take a hard pass.
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Post by mamapeaah on Dec 9, 2022 23:16:04 GMT
OMG, that clip of Megan meeting the Queen is horrible!!! Even Harry looked a little pissed at her tone. Ack!! Is she really that clueless? Watched it again. Actually, Harry looks more than a little pissed. I hope he was, and that he talked to her about it afterward. That was a very telling clip. But it's not like this was filmed live or anything....the whole thing is scripted edited etc. He had to have agreed to the whole scene, you know? It's all so weird, clearly he is unhappy, yet it still made the cut.
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Post by pjaye on Dec 10, 2022 0:07:47 GMT
OMG, that clip of Megan meeting the Queen is horrible!!! Even Harry looked a little pissed at her tone. Ack!! Is she really that clueless? Watched it again. Actually, Harry looks more than a little pissed. I hope he was, and that he talked to her about it afterward. That was a very telling clip. But it's not like this was filmed live or anything....the whole thing is scripted edited etc. He had to have agreed to the whole scene, you know? It's all so weird, clearly he is unhappy, yet it still made the cut. This was the weirdest thing to me in the whole first 3 hours. She might have done it on a whim, but surely right then, you'd realise it wasn't nice and it will upset people, so you'd say - "no scrap that we aren't using it", especially Harry. But The Queen was still alive then, so leaving it in meant the was a change she would see it, and Harry was willing to hurt his Grandmother like that. There's been rumours since The Queen died that H&M wanted to go back and re-edit some of the footage but Netflix refused, if that's true, then I'll bet that scene was one of them. It's still disrespectful that it's in there, but no point in removing after she's dead because at least she'll never see it.
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Post by RosieKat on Dec 10, 2022 0:40:50 GMT
This is all I really need to see to know I dont need to see a second more. I guess she is trying to be relatable/funny, but I don't find it all that endearing - and I'm not even British! Yes my sentiments exactly. And I’m not a Megan hater (or lover) but didn’t like this whole mocking tone. Now see, absent context, I actually see that as making fun of herself. Admittedly, that's not really something she does, but still, that's what it looks like to me. Of course, as I said, it is utterly out of context so I don't know.
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Post by pilcas on Dec 10, 2022 0:49:12 GMT
I just saw something on TikTok, a podcast she gave talking about how the first time Meghan and Harry hosted William and Catherine for dinner she describes herself as 'wearing ripped jeans and barefoot" all easy breezy making herself sound like she was some California casual beach girl. She talks about how they were so formal and stiff and criticized them for acting that way even at her home during an intimate dinner where she was serving them in her dirty bare feet. Girl. Come the F on. Does anyone buy this crap? I mean, even if it's true, why would you try and make then sound like unrelatable tight asses? Its this ish that pisses me off about her. In my world you don't talk mess about family. Not petty bs like this. I never wear shoes at home. If you have dinner here, I will be serving in my "dirty bare feet". What difference does it make? I'm not using my feet to serve the food. Yuck, that is gross. At least put on something if you have guests. Nobody wants to see dirty feet!
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Post by gillyp on Dec 10, 2022 0:59:43 GMT
I don’t see Harry p’d or angry at Meghan, I see someone who is internally shaking his head in amused exasperation. Like when you’ve told a child not to touch something and you see their hand slowly move out to try and touch it without you noticing. I felt she was making fun of herself too but the whole scenario is odd when it’s been reported that she was told what to do.
ETA it’s finally dawned on me that indulgent is the word I was seeking in regard to Harry’s expression. Resignedly indulgent.
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Post by pjaye on Dec 10, 2022 1:48:24 GMT
I felt she was making fun of herself too She's trying to present it as making fun of herself "ooh, I didn't know if I was doing it right" but the entire schtick is there to make the point that this is what those stuffy/formal/cold people do behind closed doors, they curtsy and bow to each other in private and she's exaggerating it and mocking the fact that she was expected to do it. That story is a direct criticism of his family's private life. I'm going to claim I know what Harry is thinking based on the look on his face...because I don't, BUT I do know he sat there and watched while she did it and he said nothing and he allowed it to go to air. Contrast what she said & mimed about curtsying to The Queen with what Mike Tindall said on his podcast explaining how he almost curtsied to King Charles. That's how you tell a relatable story about yourself that makes you look a little silly and doesn't shit all over the person you are talking about. They could play that to Charles and I'd bet he'd laugh about Mike almost curtsying to him. That's how you tell a personal story about your very famous family on a public platform without embarrassing yourself and without pissing them off.
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Post by mom on Dec 10, 2022 2:14:27 GMT
I’m really curious what their point is? What do they want exactly? I thought they had said the Oprah interview would be their last word about leaving? 🤷♀️if the royal family/firm is so awful, why do they keep using the titles? I doubt I’ll be bothered to waste time watching, but it’s all quite baffling to me. Money + to be a celebrity.
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Post by mom on Dec 10, 2022 2:24:27 GMT
I still haven't watched it and most likely wont now --- that clip with her blabbering about not knowing to curtsey just drives me mad.
At the end of the day, I dont feel like I can believe anything that comes out of their mouth. It seems to me they will say whatever they need to, at a moments notice, without any thought of what events actually happened.
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Post by mollycoddle on Dec 10, 2022 2:39:17 GMT
This made me laugh. From The Atlantic yesterday.
Unless you have a gaping void where your soul should be, you will notice that the couple do seem to be genuinely smitten with each other. Yet—and this is where it gets tricky—they also appear to be in love with the idea of being “Harry and Meghan” (or, as they might put it, “H and M”). There’s an uncomfortable Bonnie-and-Clyde, John-and-Yoko, folie-à-deux undercurrent throughout, as if taking on the Royal Family’s racism and the British press’s lack of scruples has become their mission. Us against the world. That is a noble intention, but it has the side effect of centering their entire lives on two institutions that they despise. Do they really want to spend the next 40 years as small, angry planets trapped in the gravitational pull of the Windsors? And have they not heard of diminishing returns? This plotline might sustain Harry’s book sales and one or two forgettable Netflix projects after that, but it ends with them delivering $150 birthday messages on Cameo by 2030.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2022 2:42:36 GMT
I saw a headline that said MP's were considering a law or something that would strip H&M of their titles. It was part of my home page of rotating headlines so I didn't catch the source. Any Brits know if this is really a thing?
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Post by amp on Dec 10, 2022 3:03:24 GMT
I still haven't watched it and most likely wont now --- that clip with her blabbering about not knowing to curtsey just drives me mad. At the end of the day, I dont feel like I can believe anything that comes out of their mouth. It seems to me they will say whatever they need to, at a moments notice, without any thought of what events actually happened. Remember when they first got engaged and she said she didn't even know who Harry was...and they were introduced at a party? Later it was revealed that she was a huge Princess Diana fan, and someone produced a photo of young Meghan in front of Buckingham Palace. As a Diana fan...or someone not living under a rock, she knew EXACTLY who he was, and I suspect she asked to be introduced to him. I pointed this out at the time to a friend who was a huge Meghan fan, and she reluctantly agreed that there were discrepancies in Meghan's stories... And now the narrative is different. Like you, I don't believe anything that comes out of her mouth. Also, everyone says how intelligent she is...yet she couldn't figure out how to curtsy? We curtsied as children when we played King and Queen...and she was a royal fan. And there is Google. Youtube. Sarah, Duchess of York. A number of options. She spins the narrative how she things it make her look best. IMHO, the more she talks, the worse she looks...I think Charles/Camilla/William/Kate have the right idea about saying nothing. She continues showing the world who she is...and they can just get on about their jobs/duties/lives.
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Post by pjaye on Dec 10, 2022 3:48:30 GMT
I saw a headline that said MP's were considering a law or something that would strip H&M of their titles. It was part of my home page of rotating headlines so I didn't catch the source. Any Brits know if this is really a thing? I know that Andrew has been brought up in Parliament once with regards to this, a minister from York is trying to get it passed to strip Andrew of his Duke of York title officially as "the city of York is known as a human rights city" and they no longer want to be associated with Andrew carrying that name. It's due for a second reading on Dec 9th. Which is so recent & I haven't seen any updates yet. www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/20227083.york-central-mp-wants-andrews-duke-york-title-stripped/It says there is currently no way for the Monarch to remove the title, so they seem to be looking for a to create a precent through Parliament. I do think if they are successful with Andrew, then at same stage the Sussex title might be next in the firing line, especially if there is a precedent of "removing titles of people who have not lived up to public expectations.”
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Post by chaosisapony on Dec 10, 2022 4:33:06 GMT
Yes my sentiments exactly. And I’m not a Megan hater (or lover) but didn’t like this whole mocking tone. Now see, absent context, I actually see that as making fun of herself. Admittedly, that's not really something she does, but still, that's what it looks like to me. Of course, as I said, it is utterly out of context so I don't know. I got really bored and quit paying attention but I did see this scene and it didn't come off as mocking the queen to me. More just the type of astonishment I would also have as an American at realizing you want me to do what? But it's your grandma... And then I'd make fun of myself for trying to do something I find a bit ridiculous and not having a clue how to do it.
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Post by used2scrap on Dec 10, 2022 4:55:32 GMT
Do any of the first three episodes explain how the poor dog broke both of his front legs? 😢
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Post by used2scrap on Dec 10, 2022 4:58:06 GMT
Yes my sentiments exactly. And I’m not a Megan hater (or lover) but didn’t like this whole mocking tone. Now see, absent context, I actually see that as making fun of herself. Admittedly, that's not really something she does, but still, that's what it looks like to me. Of course, as I said, it is utterly out of context so I don't know. Comparing the historical British monarchy to a night at medieval times is just rude. But yeah maybe the medival times jab was at herself not the queen idk. She comes across as the stereotypical ugly American.
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Post by joelise on Dec 10, 2022 12:19:42 GMT
I saw a headline that said MP's were considering a law or something that would strip H&M of their titles. It was part of my home page of rotating headlines so I didn't catch the source. Any Brits know if this is really a thing? I don’t think anything has got anywhere near that far. An MP who has a constituency in Sussex did bring up the subject in the Houses of Parliament calling for the Duke and Duchess of Sussex titles to be removed.
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Post by joelise on Dec 10, 2022 12:26:58 GMT
I haven’t watch the show as I don’t have Netflix however it has been talked about constantly on TV. The woman who did the engagement interview, Mishal Husain, said that it was a total lie when Meghan said that the interview was rehearsed and staged. I think Meghan called it a “orchestrated reality show” and that they couldn’t tell their truth. The interviewer was very offended by this and said it was a normal interview and she asked the questions she wanted to ask.
That stupid grin at the end of that curtesy really annoyed me.
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Post by smasonnc on Dec 10, 2022 14:28:44 GMT
What do they want exactly? Fame, baby. And the money that comes with it. There’s an uncomfortable Bonnie-and-Clyde, John-and-Yoko, folie-à-deux undercurrent throughout, as if taking on the Royal Family’s racism and the British press’s lack of scruples has become their mission. folie-à-deux: my new favorite term. def.: a delusion shared by two people in close association. This plotline might sustain Harry’s book sales and one or two forgettable Netflix projects after that, but it ends with them delivering $150 birthday messages on Cameo by 2030. That article is hilarious.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2022 15:01:42 GMT
I watched the first episode. I'm still trying to figure out what their angle is with this show. Control the narrative so that the media has less influence? Make money obviously. Trash the royals as revenge? Idk but it all seems very classless.
One thing I can't figure out, why did they name their daughter after the Queen??
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Post by wezee on Dec 10, 2022 15:08:33 GMT
Nope they asked for privacy. Lol
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Post by leftturnonly on Dec 10, 2022 15:16:22 GMT
To this day, I haven't been able to force myself to watch the entire interview with Oprah that set off this train to self-destruction. I doubt I could sit through more of the same on Netflix.
Because of the Queen's recent passing, I've seen quite a few clips of the pair, including one from this new Netflix show, that make me cringe.
** Edited here because I'm not as sympathetic to Harry as my deleted statement sounded. **
Between this Netflix show, Meghan's ridiculous Archetypes, and the new book coming out, I think the hole they're still digging is going to be their undoing with Harry having the most to lose and I think the clock is ticking on the length of their marriage.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Dec 10, 2022 15:24:53 GMT
I watched the first episode. I'm still trying to figure out what their angle is with this show. Control the narrative so that the media has less influence? Make money obviously. Trash the royals as revenge? Idk but it all seems very classless. One thing I can't figure out, why did they name their daughter after the Queen?? I think this is the #1 goal. People spin it as privacy, but I think they want control over it more than privacy. The way they showed private pictures in this new series (supposedly, I am not watching) kind of proves that. They have to give SOME new material so people will watch, but they are controlling what they are putting out. I assume that helps with the money aspect of it. Harry was supposedly very close to The Queen. Maybe it was supposed to be a warped olive branch to her since they had moved to CA by then? Tons of family have used Elizabeth as a middle name, so Lilibet is one way to stand out from all the Elizabeths.
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Post by leftturnonly on Dec 10, 2022 15:26:14 GMT
I clicked on your link, and immediately this side bar popped up. Not reality is probably a pretty good assessment.
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Post by leftturnonly on Dec 10, 2022 15:51:32 GMT
Twitter post - If Meghan can so snidely mock meeting the late Queen for the first time, imagine what would have been said if she’d been allowed to travel to Balmoral on the Queen’s last day. The very thought! OK, I just watched and have so many opinions! You watch, so we don't have to. moving to the USA, living QUIETLY away from the cameras They would be held in such high regard if they had done simply this.
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