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Post by papersilly on Jan 3, 2023 20:48:12 GMT
on a side note, why are there children on the House floor? what's the story behind that? just curious. poor things must be bore out of their minds.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jan 3, 2023 20:48:59 GMT
i just find it interesting that Matt Gaetz has the gall to stand up and speak. of all people. Takes one to know one ... Guess they hang out together!! With the underaged!
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Post by papersilly on Jan 3, 2023 20:52:09 GMT
i just find it interesting that Matt Gaetz has the gall to stand up and speak. of all people. Takes one to know one ... Guess they hang out together!! With the underaged! i guess we should be glad Madge and Boebert didn't take the floor too. what an embarrassment those two are too.
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Post by onelasttime on Jan 3, 2023 21:00:46 GMT
What is it with the right that they keep trying to change history?
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Post by inkedup on Jan 3, 2023 21:11:50 GMT
Fucking hell. What an embarrassment.
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Post by inkedup on Jan 3, 2023 21:14:45 GMT
Gaetz just voted for Jordan Sexual predators (or apologists for said predators) of a feather and all that.
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Post by hopemax on Jan 3, 2023 21:26:15 GMT
on a side note, why are there children on the House floor? what's the story behind that? just curious. poor things must be bore out of their minds. Because usually the first day is a party day. The speaker vote is procedural, but the rest of the day is friends and family hanging out and seeing their person sworn in. Normally, it's a cool thing for Mom or Dad to officially be a member of Congress.
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Post by onelasttime on Jan 3, 2023 21:35:34 GMT
Round 4 coming up…
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Post by aj2hall on Jan 3, 2023 21:53:42 GMT
McCarthy is on track to lose the 3rd vote. And he picked up another defector. Bryan Donalds voted against McCarthy in the 3rd round. Not a good sign. This shows just how dysfunctional the Republican Party has become. How ironic, a vote for McCarthy is a vote for governing. McCarthy has promised endless investigations and has no actual plans, other than obstructing Democrats. As he cast his vote, Representative Bill Huizenga of Michigan said, “Because I'm interested in governing: Kevin McCarthy.” www.nytimes.com/live/2023/01/03/us/house-speaker-vote
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Post by Merge on Jan 3, 2023 21:57:29 GMT
Did anyone see Boebert outside the chamber crowing about how they'd removed the metal detectors outside the entrance and turned it "back into the people's house?"
Under the GOP, clearly, corporations are people and guns are people now.
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Post by aj2hall on Jan 3, 2023 22:00:32 GMT
This is what Gaetz and his crew are demanding. www.nytimes.com/live/2023/01/03/us/house-speaker-vote#heres-what-mccarthys-detractors-are-demandingAs Representative Kevin McCarthy of California has scrounged for the votes to become speaker, a core group of hard-right Republicans has laid out a series of demands crucial to winning their support.
As part of a grueling, monthslong negotiation to lock down the support he needs, Mr. McCarthy agreed to some of the demands from members of the House Freedom Caucus — a group that includes Representatives Matt Gaetz of Florida, Lauren Boebert of Colorado, and Scott Perry of Pennsylvania — and incorporated them in a proposed package of rules governing how the House operates for the next two years.
They included a rule to allow a vote at any time to oust the speaker, which would weaken the post considerably, though Mr. McCarthy proposed to set the threshold for forcing such a vote at five lawmakers rather than a single one, as the holdouts had demanded.
The package also included the so-called Holman rule, which allows lawmakers to use spending bills to defund specific programs and fire federal officials or reduce their pay.
But Mr. McCarthy refused to accede to a number of other conditions set by his critics. Here are some of the other demands:
Promising to hold votes on a series of bills backed by hard-right members, including legislation that would require term limits for members of Congress, a balanced federal budget and fortifying security at the southwestern border.
Pledging that the leading Republican political action committee would not fund challengers in party primaries. The demand reflects anger among right-wing and conservative groups toward Mr. McCarthy for using the leadership PAC aligned with him to back more mainstream candidates.
Adopting a requirement that any spending earmark receive two-thirds support of the House in order to pass.
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Post by aj2hall on Jan 3, 2023 22:03:00 GMT
Round 3 officially over. 20 Republicans opposing McCarthy. Wonder how long they're planning to drag this out?
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Post by Merge on Jan 3, 2023 22:07:04 GMT
This is what Gaetz and his crew are demanding. www.nytimes.com/live/2023/01/03/us/house-speaker-vote#heres-what-mccarthys-detractors-are-demandingAs Representative Kevin McCarthy of California has scrounged for the votes to become speaker, a core group of hard-right Republicans has laid out a series of demands crucial to winning their support.
As part of a grueling, monthslong negotiation to lock down the support he needs, Mr. McCarthy agreed to some of the demands from members of the House Freedom Caucus — a group that includes Representatives Matt Gaetz of Florida, Lauren Boebert of Colorado, and Scott Perry of Pennsylvania — and incorporated them in a proposed package of rules governing how the House operates for the next two years.
They included a rule to allow a vote at any time to oust the speaker, which would weaken the post considerably, though Mr. McCarthy proposed to set the threshold for forcing such a vote at five lawmakers rather than a single one, as the holdouts had demanded.
The package also included the so-called Holman rule, which allows lawmakers to use spending bills to defund specific programs and fire federal officials or reduce their pay.
But Mr. McCarthy refused to accede to a number of other conditions set by his critics. Here are some of the other demands:
Promising to hold votes on a series of bills backed by hard-right members, including legislation that would require term limits for members of Congress, a balanced federal budget and fortifying security at the southwestern border.
Pledging that the leading Republican political action committee would not fund challengers in party primaries. The demand reflects anger among right-wing and conservative groups toward Mr. McCarthy for using the leadership PAC aligned with him to back more mainstream candidates.
Adopting a requirement that any spending earmark receive two-thirds support of the House in order to pass.It will serve them right if a few moderate Republicans give up and vote for Jeffries just to stick it to those lunatics.
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Post by Skellinton on Jan 3, 2023 22:12:11 GMT
wow. I wish I'd been home today to watch this. Thanks for these updates. Me too!!! This is craziness.
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Post by onelasttime on Jan 3, 2023 22:18:48 GMT
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Post by fiddlesticks on Jan 3, 2023 22:20:48 GMT
How many votes do they need?
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Post by onelasttime on Jan 3, 2023 22:20:51 GMT
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Post by Merge on Jan 3, 2023 22:22:16 GMT
How many votes do they need? 218.
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Post by sabrinae on Jan 3, 2023 22:22:55 GMT
How many votes do they need? 218 unless some members leave or vote present.
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Post by fiddlesticks on Jan 3, 2023 22:25:17 GMT
How many votes do they need? 218. Thanks! I admit that, for the most part, I don’t typically pay attention to this stuff but this is so fascinating. It probably is usually just a formality…
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Post by Merge on Jan 3, 2023 22:27:40 GMT
I'm afraid this is their strategy again - they plan to nominate a "consensus" person from outside the House, and it will be Trump. And while he is certainly not uniformly loved even among GOP members, his power in the party is still feared, and some may vote for him out of fear of reprisal if they don't.
What a shitshow that would be.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jan 3, 2023 22:28:53 GMT
OMG. I knew that it would be a clown show, but they have exceeded my expectations. I wonder if they have any idea how ridiculous they look?
I bet that John Boehner is laughing his ass off.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jan 3, 2023 22:30:38 GMT
They have adjourned until tomorrow at noon..
Won't even have to be a fly on the wall. Probably be able to hear the yelling a block away!!
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Post by aj2hall on Jan 3, 2023 22:31:51 GMT
They just voted to adjourn until 12 pm tomorrow. Best case scenario, Democrats work with some moderate Republicans to vote for a moderate like Kinzinger, Cheney or Fred Upton. Worst case scenario, we get Trump or one of his lackeys.
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Post by onelasttime on Jan 3, 2023 22:32:24 GMT
That’s a wrap for today…
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Post by AussieMeg on Jan 3, 2023 22:37:21 GMT
So now some are voting for Jim Jordan? They guy who knew kids were being sexually abused and said nothing? I mean, it's fitting that Gaetz nominated him and Boebert (with the "flash my penis to minors" husband) voted for him.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jan 3, 2023 22:39:58 GMT
As I said. Birds of a feather... Flock together!
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Better yet.. You are known by the company you keep!
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Post by femalebusiness on Jan 3, 2023 22:47:50 GMT
And dead silence from republican peas…..😂😂😂
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Post by mollycoddle on Jan 3, 2023 22:56:41 GMT
I just saw this and … well, it speaks for itself. 🤔🥴
“…a tiny amount of dissent and debate.” 😆 Sure, sure. Their actions today must be part of some brilliant, top-secret plan.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jan 3, 2023 23:02:37 GMT
And Democrats are following authoritarian borg.. lock step allegience?!
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