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Post by gulfcoastgirl on Jan 28, 2023 15:14:51 GMT
Dh's niece is getting married for the third time since 2009- without burying anyone - does that seem like a lot of marriages in a short period of time? I didn't even know she had broken up with #2 until she announced her engagment to #3. The problem is that she has always married nice people and we've gotten close to them - we miss them! I didn't even want to know the FNG's name - too hard when they are dumped by the wayside five years later. ETA She's not a particularly likable person to begin with, so I guess kudos are in order for her procuring so many husbands. I wouldn't call her "High Maintenance" as that would indicate that maintenance, at some level, was possible. Thanks for reading my drivel. GCG
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Post by MDscrapaholic on Jan 28, 2023 15:19:23 GMT
I can sympathize with you - that would be hard for me too. Especially when they are nice people you like!
Does hubby #3 know about #1 and #2?
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Post by pilcas on Jan 28, 2023 15:22:06 GMT
At this point they might as well just move in together.
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Post by Jennifer C on Jan 28, 2023 15:29:13 GMT
I have a cousin that is on marriage #5. She always shocks us with another guy.
She's always been very outgoing and gorgeous. The problem is that she is very hard to live with because it's always HER first. She's very demanding,
She marries very nice guys, 3 are still in the family because their kids are still very involved in our family. 1 child, 3 step children.
Jennifer
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Post by garcia5050 on Jan 28, 2023 15:55:10 GMT
I have a cousin who recently divorced wife #4. His wives have all cheat on him. He’s a nice guy but strikes me as super needy. I feel bad for him because he seems to enjoy ‘being in love.’ So it’s a very different situation than the above. He is impulsive though, and doesn’t date for a long time before marrying. You would think he would learn that by marriage #2.
He actually says he’s done now (he’s 56). We’ll see.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jan 28, 2023 16:04:54 GMT
My sister has a SIL like that who has been married I think five times. None of her four kids have the same dad. She is currently remarried to the guy she was married to the third time. 🤪 I guess I can’t decide who is nuttier, her or him.
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Post by epeanymous on Jan 28, 2023 16:07:07 GMT
Eh, I think it's fine to be a bit judgmental--all sorts of things can happen in marriage, but at some point it can look like a disconnect between the degree of seriousness with which she treats marriage and the level of respect/recognition she expects from everyone else about it.
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Post by gulfcoastgirl on Jan 28, 2023 16:26:47 GMT
Eh, I think it's fine to be a bit judgmental--all sorts of things can happen in marriage, but at some point it can look like a disconnect between the degree of seriousness with which she treats marriage and the level of respect/recognition she expects from everyone else about it. Damn, you are right! I was trying to figure this out - some of the family have been criticised for being judgmental and not "supportive". The truth is that we ARE expected to be excited for the bride! We're not all clamoring to attend this third bridal extravaganza so there's something wrong with us (my SILS, BILS, etc.). We've been treated to these beautiful graphics on her IG that basically say "as long as it makes me happy, I can stomp all over everything in my path". I also think a lot of he family's collective eye-roll is due to the fact that we're mourning a loss! Everyone loved her most recent husband.
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Post by iluvpink on Jan 28, 2023 16:38:30 GMT
Yes, that does sound like a lot.
That said, my late MIL was married THREE times by her 22nd birthday! No deaths, either. She did remain married to the last one until she was 43, then divorced.
ETA she had a lot of issues. Not an easy person.
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Post by scrapmaven on Jan 28, 2023 16:42:55 GMT
Rather than another husband perhaps she needs therapy to find out why this keeps happening?
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Post by MichyM on Jan 28, 2023 16:46:25 GMT
I won’t judge, having been a child in this situation.
Husband #1. My dad. They were married for 13 years Husband #2 A physically abusive functioning alcoholic. My mom, as well as all 3 of us kids went through hell and back. Police involved numerous times. “We were a “nice middle class family.” Stalking after they split. The whole 9 yards plus some. Husband #3 A good guy with whom she remained married until he died decades later.
All within the 13-14 year timeline as the niece. You never know what someone has gone through behind closed doors.
I hope third time is the charm for her.
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Post by femalebusiness on Jan 28, 2023 16:51:36 GMT
I actually couldn't care less about a serial marrier except if they keep having kids. I draw the line bringing kids into that type of life.
Other than being polite when forced to be in the same room with someone like that I wouldn’t have anything to do with them. Not someone that I would have any interest in being associated with and I certainly wouldn't acknowledge the next marriage with gifts or attending the wedding.
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Post by peasapie on Jan 28, 2023 17:03:38 GMT
I'm not judging. I'm on marriage #3. First one 18 years to a serial cheater and liar. I stayed because of the kids. Second one 14 years to a great guy but on the spectrum and he grew increasingly inward, not conversational, not wanting to be touched or show affection. I'm happily married now for five years and never plan to be with anyone else. Sometimes it's hard to find the right match, even if it seems right when you marry them.
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Post by malibou on Jan 28, 2023 17:12:01 GMT
I guess I come from a family of serial marriages. All 4 of my siblings and both of my parents have all been married 3 times. 😆😜
I am married to my 2nd boyfriend.
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Post by librarylady on Jan 28, 2023 19:00:13 GMT
My nephew, now age 57 has been married several times. Fortunately he has not produced children. #1 = right after high school. I think that lasted 2-3 years. #2 = He was in Navy and discovered she was involved in an affair. He was stationed in Japan at the time. She wanted the Navy to let her continue to live in Navy housing in Japan. Navy made her return to the US. #3. After divorce he dated her twin sister for a short time. #4. She died from uterine cancer. #5. Married within 3 months after #4 died.
I think he just wants to be married. He and #3 stopped by my home for the weekend after they were married. Nephew said, "Every time I see you I have a different wife." I replied that only he could control that, I could not. #5 was the bride's first marriage. I was stunned that she wanted to marry so quickly and encouraged him to date her for at least a year. (They obviously didn't listen to me.)
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Post by FuzzyMutt on Jan 28, 2023 19:53:09 GMT
I find this extremely petty and judgy. I was married 3 times by the time I was 24. 1) Long story best summed up by high school/first boyfriend that my parents liked better than me. If you weren’t there, you wouldn’t understand and too much (and too specific) to put on a public forum. Married and divorced by 19 yo. Took a couple years to pay off his debt. 2) Second husband, we were both military. I got sent overseas for 18 months. He cheated. I divorced him. Family: Oh, you were gone for a year and just looking for a reason to bolt. 3) Third- long story. He’s truly the narcissist, gas lighting, greedy, hurtful man that a lot of people seem to think their ex’s are. I stayed married for. 8 years. “FoR THe KiDS.” Someone has to raise his kids, and mine while he is GI Joe great American Hero. Beloved military leader, inspiration and all around GrEaT dAD. The ONLY people who see him as he truly is are his kids, my kids, his dead son, his estranged since we divorced other son. His wife who is putting up with the crap I did for so many years (my kids are mind blown, how similar- my daughter and his oldest son remember and daughter sees it with current wife/kids.) It was hard to pull the plug, also, because of judgy ass people and I actually sort of cared about their opinions. It breaks my heart that my daughter had to bear the brunt of being his mark after we divorced and he couldn’t get his pats on the back from me. My son has grown up seeing his hero steal every dream he’s ever had, and sees his dad for who he is. My family still thinks he’s the greatest guy ever and I’m just jaded lol
Bottom line, YOU love her ex’s. You can f*ck em, ignore them, worship them, feel sorry for them. But you don’t KNOW them and it’s none of your business.
I’m in a relationship with a wonderful man, it’s been 5 years and I love him dearly. I don’t know if I’ll ever marry him after my previous marriages. And even though it’s been 15 years since my last divorce, I know tongues will wag. Because people like you seem to think you have some say in who other people are married to. No one who would put their energy into talking crap about me has their life together in the slightest, probably why they like the ability to get out of their own mind space. Anyway. Get to know him, or don’t, go to wedding or don’t. Withhold celebrating and encouraging their happiness, because God knows there are only so many positive vibes we can put out in the world and you wouldn’t want to run out! We can only care about so many people you know. You know it’s petty and judgy. So stop. Keep your nose in your own relationship.
ETA: you’re so invested in her #2 and liked him so very much that you don’t even know they were divorced and there was a new guy? Clearly he wasn’t that invested in you, or the rest of the family. GTFOH.
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Post by scrapngranny on Jan 28, 2023 20:04:57 GMT
My guess is these couples are getting married based on hormones not real love. Real love takes time to develop. They are marrying without really knowing the real person. These men aren’t seeing her as who she when she puts her guard down.
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Post by Gem Girl on Jan 28, 2023 20:11:11 GMT
Getting engaged is fun and exciting. Being and staying married can be hard work.
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Post by Lexica on Jan 28, 2023 20:24:32 GMT
That would bother me too. I would have to stifle the urge to warn the incoming husband that he shouldn't really unpack too much because he won't be there all that long.
My ex is on marriage #5, I think, but it is easier for a man because typically the men do the proposing. And since he picks uneducated women who are several years younger than he is, emotionally immature, and dependent upon him, it is an easy task for him. His problem is he cheats on them and when they find out, they divorce him. I told him after wife #2 to just not marry anyone. Live with them if you want to, but I told him that he just wasn't cut out to be a married man that didn't cheat.
But for a woman, like your niece, to get that many men to propose to her kind of baffles me. And when you say they are all good guys, it is even more puzzling. Heck, I can't find ONE good guy to even go out with let alone marry. I often wonder what their secret is.
I just watched one of those Unsolved Mystery shows where the woman had 5 daughters and kept changing men all the time. She would marry them, and when one came by that looked like they were richer or had more to offer her, she dumped the current husband and moved in with the next guy.
She was featured on the show because one of the husbands, the brother of her second (or was it the third husband?) disappeared after a couple of years of marriage and she immediately moved her next guy into the house that she had been living in with the brother she was married to. Her oldest daughter was really close to that original brother (husband #2 or #3) and she went to him and told him that her mother shot her his brother in the head and then burned his body and had her help scatter his bones all around this multi-acre piece of property that I think the new guy owned.
It wasn't long before word got back to the mother that her daughter had told about her murdering the husband and SHE, the daughter, goes missing too. The woman obviously killed her own daughter so that she couldn't testify against her at the upcoming trial. The bonus for her is that oldest daughter had a son and the mother wanted him for herself. She had been trying to get the little boy to call her Mommy and I guess having had 5 daughters, she figured here was a related little boy she could have if she just killed her daughter. Her daughters said she always used her sex appeal to get new men and then tired of them pretty quickly and went out and found another one. She had done it their entire lives.
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Post by FuzzyMutt on Jan 28, 2023 20:55:28 GMT
Lexica ….. Btw- between my third divorce in 2008 and the beginning of my current 5 year relationship, I was proposed to twice by the men I dated in that 10 year span. Current man and I live together etc, have talked marriage, but I think I’m just too hypersensitive due to my last husband… 15 years ago.. Why is everyone assuming this woman is damaged or that she is with saints? What is the OP even basing her judgement of this woman on? Or the evaluation of her ex’s?? Clearly she barely knows them, certainly has no idea what goes on behind those closed doors I’m certainly difficult. I require a man that takes care of himself, supports himself. Is respectful to my children, above all. Honest, fun, we have stuff in common, support one another’s outside interests (that 100% don’t include 3rd wheels in the relationship.) I’m difficult. I won’t tolerate anger issues, passive aggressive behavior, put down humor, whining or manipulating behavior, lying, withholding of information (for reference- my ex husband married his current wife, his 4th, her first) and didn’t even tell her about one of his children. When it came back to bite him in the ass, ex wife insisted he help with the “troubled teen” he told her the son wasn’t his. He didn’t know what was going on. Wife #4, who up til then wouldn’t even speak to me, called ME to ask what the truth was. As I mentioned in my previous post- he’s a gaslighting liar who lied (oooooooh but he’s a great father who is a wonderful man according to MY parents.) My kids are furious that he did that. BTW, they were both raised knowing that young man was their brother… imagine how it truly feels to them to have seen that from their father?? As a quality woman, unwilling to tolerate these behaviors any more, more than willing to call penalty of ending relationships immediately when these red flags pop up, it’s easy to weed out the fuck boys. Quality men don’t play around either. So the fact that she’s been proposed to “so many times” isn’t at all surprising. Really sexist post.
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Post by scrappyesq on Jan 28, 2023 22:17:13 GMT
I find this extremely petty and judgy. I was married 3 times by the time I was 24. 1) Long story best summed up by high school/first boyfriend that my parents liked better than me. If you weren’t there, you wouldn’t understand and too much (and too specific) to put on a public forum. Married and divorced by 19 yo. Took a couple years to pay off his debt. 2) Second husband, we were both military. I got sent overseas for 18 months. He cheated. I divorced him. Family: Oh, you were gone for a year and just looking for a reason to bolt. 3) Third- long story. He’s truly the narcissist, gas lighting, greedy, hurtful man that a lot of people seem to think their ex’s are. I stayed married for. 8 years. “FoR THe KiDS.” Someone has to raise his kids, and mine while he is GI Joe great American Hero. Beloved military leader, inspiration and all around GrEaT dAD. The ONLY people who see him as he truly is are his kids, my kids, his dead son, his estranged since we divorced other son. His wife who is putting up with the crap I did for so many years (my kids are mind blown, how similar- my daughter and his oldest son remember and daughter sees it with current wife/kids.) It was hard to pull the plug, also, because of judgy ass people and I actually sort of cared about their opinions. It breaks my heart that my daughter had to bear the brunt of being his mark after we divorced and he couldn’t get his pats on the back from me. My son has grown up seeing his hero steal every dream he’s ever had, and sees his dad for who he is. My family still thinks he’s the greatest guy ever and I’m just jaded lol Bottom line, YOU love her ex’s. You can f*ck em, ignore them, worship them, feel sorry for them. But you don’t KNOW them and it’s none of your business. I’m in a relationship with a wonderful man, it’s been 5 years and I love him dearly. I don’t know if I’ll ever marry him after my previous marriages. And even though it’s been 15 years since my last divorce, I know tongues will wag. Because people like you seem to think you have some say in who other people are married to. No one who would put their energy into talking crap about me has their life together in the slightest, probably why they like the ability to get out of their own mind space. Anyway. Get to know him, or don’t, go to wedding or don’t. Withhold celebrating and encouraging their happiness, because God knows there are only so many positive vibes we can put out in the world and you wouldn’t want to run out! We can only care about so many people you know. You know it’s petty and judgy. So stop. Keep your nose in your own relationship. ETA: you’re so invested in her #2 and liked him so very much that you don’t even know they were divorced and there was a new guy? Clearly he wasn’t that invested in you, or the rest of the family. GTFOH. I don’t think it’s judgy but 100% understand where you’re coming from. My life would be exactly how you describe to the letter if I had gone through with weddings to men I was engaged to. Husband #1 would have been at 19 to a man who I left college for. He ended up cheating on me and even though I changed my life for him I didn’t want to deal with the other woman drama. Husband #2 was a mentally abusive narcissist who I left after we picked out my ring but before we made it official. I died a little inside every day I was with him and I knew I was at the end of my rope. Husband #3 was ex-dh, whose brokenness I’m only now coming to terms with. So next dh would be #4. I say all of this because I understand what it is to bounce from situation to situation because you’re looking to fix your own broken pieces. That may be what’s going on with op’s niece, unbeknownst to op. If I had been raised in a healthy environment I can only hope that there would have been one husband. And not one of the fools I mention. That all being said I can understand the side eye for serial marriers. I think one of my aunts was married 7 times, with the last one a Green Card seeker long before 90 day fiancée who left her stranded in Honduras.
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Post by AllieC on Jan 28, 2023 22:24:51 GMT
We never know what goes on behind closed doors so I’m not one to judge.
I’m a bit confused over the “we love #2” yet you didn’t know that they had split. The relationship cant have been that close if neither your or your dh didn’t have any contact with him in this time?
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Post by FuzzyMutt on Jan 28, 2023 23:05:28 GMT
scrappyesq - You nailed it. I’m glad you were willing to buck the system.
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Post by AussieMeg on Jan 28, 2023 23:16:40 GMT
I have a very good friend who has been married three times (although not in such a short time frame - her first was in the late 90s). I wouldn't call her a serial marrier, nor be judgemental about her. She is an amazing person though, and it sounds like your DH's niece is not.
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Post by silverlining on Jan 29, 2023 1:12:15 GMT
ETA She's not a particularly likable person to begin with, so I guess kudos are in order for her procuring so many husbands. I wouldn't call her "High Maintenance" as that would indicate that maintenance, at some level, was possible. It's clear you really don't like her. Maybe the first two husbands were truly fantastic guys, or maybe there were things happening in their marriage that you're not aware of. I don't necessarily agree that marrying three times is evidence that someone is horrible. It might mean someone feels that they need to marry anyone they're attracted to. I also wonder if we're more familiar with this as a male thing, a guy wanting to "upgrade" every few years and maybe we're more judgmental of women?
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Jan 29, 2023 2:11:13 GMT
The ones I know, aren't necessarily serial marriers, they are people who don't like to be alone.
Within days, weeks or months of relationship or marriage ending, they are on the prowl for someone, anyone....just so they aren't alone. A couple of them, as soon as the word divorce was mentioned, they signed up for dating websites, so they would have someone in reserves...the moment they were free.....and alone.
Barely a break at all, until they were dating, onto the next relationship, getting married again.
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Post by lisae on Jan 29, 2023 2:15:37 GMT
I have a friend who is married to husband number 3 plus there was one engagement that got all the way to the last week before the wedding. She called it off. This last marriage seems to be sticking. Sometimes I guess it takes awhile. Maybe the rest of us are just more fortunate.
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Post by gulfcoastgirl on Jan 29, 2023 12:45:57 GMT
I find this extremely petty and judgy. I was married 3 times by the time I was 24. 1) Long story best summed up by high school/first boyfriend that my parents liked better than me. If you weren’t there, you wouldn’t understand and too much (and too specific) to put on a public forum. Married and divorced by 19 yo. Took a couple years to pay off his debt. 2) Second husband, we were both military. I got sent overseas for 18 months. He cheated. I divorced him. Family: Oh, you were gone for a year and just looking for a reason to bolt. 3) Third- long story. He’s truly the narcissist, gas lighting, greedy, hurtful man that a lot of people seem to think their ex’s are. I stayed married for. 8 years. “FoR THe KiDS.” Someone has to raise his kids, and mine while he is GI Joe great American Hero. Beloved military leader, inspiration and all around GrEaT dAD. The ONLY people who see him as he truly is are his kids, my kids, his dead son, his estranged since we divorced other son. His wife who is putting up with the crap I did for so many years (my kids are mind blown, how similar- my daughter and his oldest son remember and daughter sees it with current wife/kids.) It was hard to pull the plug, also, because of judgy ass people and I actually sort of cared about their opinions. It breaks my heart that my daughter had to bear the brunt of being his mark after we divorced and he couldn’t get his pats on the back from me. My son has grown up seeing his hero steal every dream he’s ever had, and sees his dad for who he is. My family still thinks he’s the greatest guy ever and I’m just jaded lol Bottom line, YOU love her ex’s. You can f*ck em, ignore them, worship them, feel sorry for them. But you don’t KNOW them and it’s none of your business. I’m in a relationship with a wonderful man, it’s been 5 years and I love him dearly. I don’t know if I’ll ever marry him after my previous marriages. And even though it’s been 15 years since my last divorce, I know tongues will wag. Because people like you seem to think you have some say in who other people are married to. No one who would put their energy into talking crap about me has their life together in the slightest, probably why they like the ability to get out of their own mind space. Anyway. Get to know him, or don’t, go to wedding or don’t. Withhold celebrating and encouraging their happiness, because God knows there are only so many positive vibes we can put out in the world and you wouldn’t want to run out! We can only care about so many people you know. You know it’s petty and judgy. So stop. Keep your nose in your own relationship. ETA: you’re so invested in her #2 and liked him so very much that you don’t even know they were divorced and there was a new guy? Clearly he wasn’t that invested in you, or the rest of the family. GTFOH. Thanks for your point of view. I knew I would get a variety of responses on this post. You've given me a good dressing down but food for thought.
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Post by peabay on Jan 29, 2023 13:28:03 GMT
I won’t judge, having been a child in this situation. Husband #1. My dad. They were married for 13 years Husband #2 A physically abusive functioning alcoholic. My mom, as well as all 3 of us kids went through hell and back. Police involved numerous times. “We were a “nice middle class family.” Stalking after they split. The whole 9 yards plus some. Husband #3 A good guy with whom she remained married until he died decades later. All within the 13-14 year timeline as the niece. You never know what someone has gone through behind closed doors. I hope third time is the charm for her. I know someone well who was married 3x and there wasn't much to be judgy about: Wife 1: married to for many years (20?); had 4 kids with her - she was an alcoholic and abusive to the kids. Divorced Wife 2: quick rebound after the first. A disaster and lasted a year. Kids from the first wife told me she was a gold digger who was sunshine and rainbows in order to get a marriage proposal and then a nightmare as soon as she had a ring. Tore the family apart. Divorced Wife 3: married for almost 25 years. A really good, solid marriage of equal partners. She brought the family back together. Not saying I don't understand a raised eyebrow, but it's not always the same picture
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Post by gulfcoastgirl on Jan 29, 2023 14:17:21 GMT
Thank you all for your thoughts. I am not criticizing the number of marriages, just - IMHO, they have occurred in a short period of time! I am in the 25th year of my third marriage; my 2nd dh died. Not throwing stones here.
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