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Post by onelasttime on Feb 5, 2023 5:55:38 GMT
Here’s another one who didn’t read the Defense Department’s memo. 😀
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Feb 5, 2023 13:12:50 GMT
OMFG I wonder what all my Republican family members will say on FB now? Those who for the past day have been talking about Biden being in cahoots with China, and that's why he told the US military "to stand down" while they moan and bitch about what a loser president he is. I almost don't even want to go look at what they are saying now, but I have zero willpower, so I will. LOL OMFG That isn't an actual headline. She didn’t say it was. She said she wondering if he was predicting what the Fox talking point would be. It is pretty clear what those talking points have been based on social media posts and comments. He wasn’t off base.
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Post by onelasttime on Feb 5, 2023 16:23:38 GMT
Apparently Tom Cotton does not know what the word “prior” means. He is claiming he talked to a lot of former trump people and they claim they were not aware of anything like this happening during the trump years so maybe the balloons “visited” us during the Obama Administration. I went back and reread the DOD statement and it said the balloons visited the country in the “prior” administration. Which would be the trump administration.
So either he is lying or those imaginary people that live in trump & McCarthy’s skull also live in this guy’s skull.
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Post by onelasttime on Feb 5, 2023 16:25:32 GMT
I guess he didn’t read the DOD statement either.
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Post by onelasttime on Feb 5, 2023 16:29:58 GMT
I guess he missed the news the United States made an agreement with the Philippines to have access to 4 more military bases in The Philippines which is kind of in China’s backyard.
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Post by onelasttime on Feb 5, 2023 16:41:16 GMT
Holy cow. dumpster don has issued a statement that the DOD is lying because balloons never flew across the country while he played at being president because “China had too much respect for TRUMP for this to happen”.
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Post by Just T on Feb 5, 2023 16:48:17 GMT
OMFG That isn't an actual headline. She didn’t say it was. She said she wondering if he was predicting what the Fox talking point would be. It is pretty clear what those talking points have been based on social media posts and comments. He wasn’t off base. Thank you. Since every one of my Trumper relatives believes every little thing on Fox News, I could see them running with this because that is what they do. Every. Single. Time. I have a relative who said once that Tucker Carlson is the greatest journalist of our time, and if you don't watch/listen to him, you are sadly misinformed. LMFAO I don't even try to correct them most of the time anymore when THEY spread misinformation because it's not worth it. All of them who have been spouting off about how this would never have happened under Trump are strangely quiet now that it's come out that this happened 3 times while Trump was president, and he didn't shoot it down. The only thing they are doing now is criticizing Biden because he waited too long to shoot it down. I sarcastically said to one Friday night, "So, we should have just shot it down, to hell with who might be killed on the ground where the debris fall. Got it." No response of course, and then a few hours later, she deleted her whole post.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 5, 2023 16:52:40 GMT
Holy cow. dumpster don has issued a statement that the DOD is lying because balloons never flew across the country while he played at being president because “China had too much respect for TRUMP for this to happen”. Because TFG never read or listened to his daily briefings...
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Post by onelasttime on Feb 5, 2023 16:55:30 GMT
Take a second and listen to this guy’s word salad when asked if President Biden “should have disregarded military advice”. Keep in mind this guys is making noises that he wants to run for President in 2024.
I’m not sure if his word salad response is an example of “new leadership”. Honest leadership would be acknowledging the Biden Administration, for the saf of the American People, did the right thing in waiting for the balloon to be over water before bringing it down.
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Post by onelasttime on Feb 5, 2023 16:58:09 GMT
Here is another potential presidential candidate for 2024…
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Post by onelasttime on Feb 5, 2023 17:01:23 GMT
This response is spot on. IMO..
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 5, 2023 17:03:14 GMT
Take a second and listen to this guy’s word salad when asked if President Biden “should have disregarded military advice”. Keep in mind this guys is making noises that he wants to run for President in 2024. Ok good, Gov Sununu, shoot it down over Canada?!?!? Our FRIENDLY neighbors!! (For now anyway!!)
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 5, 2023 17:11:59 GMT
Interesting that in all of GOP being interviewed, they list so many sensitive areas the balloon flew over.. Why not keep your damn mouths shut!!
Total disregarding all the satellites up there in space! Just mentioned that our satellites are able to read a license plate on earth, surely the Chinese satellites are just as efficient!!
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Post by onelasttime on Feb 5, 2023 18:46:19 GMT
I was one of the ones that wanted that sucker shot down, well until trump said it should be shot down. All joking aside I did think it needed to be shot down. I also said if our military couldn’t bring it down in a way not to harm people on the ground we had bigger problems then the balloon. The military did a risk analysis and determined the best place to bring it down was over the ocean. President Biden agreed. Its down without damage to people or property on the ground. Which makes is a win win for this country and President Biden. But not according to the right as I have noted in earlier posts on this thread. So the Administration sends in the big guns to point out the way this balloon was handled was done the right way. From Politico…. link “Buttigieg said U.S. had to balance risks in deciding when to shoot down balloon””President Joe Biden balanced risks including debris falling over U.S. airspace when his administration delayed shooting down a Chinese balloon until Saturday, Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg said Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union.” “The president gave instructions to have it handled, have it shot down in a way that was safe,” Buttigieg said, noting that the field of debris was seven miles long and fell through national airspace when the balloon was downed Saturday.” ”The president called for this to be dealt with in a way that balanced all of the different risks,” he added. An F-22 stealth fighter shot the balloon down off the coast of the Carolinas a week after the U.S. first started tracking it Jan. 28, POLITICO previously reported. The balloon crossed the continent in the succeeding days, from Alaska to Canadian airspace, then over Idaho and Montana to the Atlantic. The U.S.“ military is now attempting to recover the debris for intelligence purposes.
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Post by onelasttime on Feb 5, 2023 20:30:10 GMT
How much do you want to make a bet the 🤡 majority in the House will hold at least one hearing on how the Biden Administration handled this balloon.
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 5, 2023 22:53:57 GMT
OMFG That isn't an actual headline. She didn’t say it was. She said she wondering if he was predicting what the Fox talking point would be. It is pretty clear what those talking points have been based on social media posts and comments. He wasn’t off base. She posted a tweet that said: Punctuated by OMFG She might not have said the words that it was an actual headline, but she WAS pushing the idea that was where Fox News was going in their reporting. When in reality no such thing happened.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Feb 6, 2023 0:06:08 GMT
She didn’t say it was. She said she wondering if he was predicting what the Fox talking point would be. It is pretty clear what those talking points have been based on social media posts and comments. He wasn’t off base. She posted a tweet that said: Punctuated by OMFG She might not have said the words that it was an actual headline, but she WAS pushing the idea that was where Fox News was going in their reporting. When in reality no such thing happened. Go back and read the post again. She said at first I thought he is predicting the Fox News taking point. You are ignoring the “predicting” portion of the post.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 6, 2023 0:27:10 GMT
Here is another potential presidential candidate for 2024… Not only is Rubio on the Intelligence Committee, he is the acting chair or the ranking member. Therefore he part of the gang of eight and will get the full briefing..
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 6, 2023 0:44:39 GMT
She posted a tweet that said: Punctuated by OMFG She might not have said the words that it was an actual headline, but she WAS pushing the idea that was where Fox News was going in their reporting. When in reality no such thing happened. Go back and read the post again. She said at first I thought he is predicting the Fox News taking point. You are ignoring the “predicting” portion of the post. She said no such thing. Maybe YOU should go back and read what she said.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 6, 2023 2:06:29 GMT
Major screw up... It seems TFG is correct that he never heard about the Chinese Balloons, not even the ones that flew over Florida. Surely this is a developing story... Who knows how much is truthful.. And it seems that this was not the first time during this administration!! Pentagon never told Trump national security about Chinese spy balloons: GOP congressmanSarah K. Burris February 05, 2023 Rep. Michael Waltz (R-FL) revealed that the spy balloons that happened under Donald Trump were never discussed outside of the Pentagon.Fox reported that the former president and his national security officials never had spy balloons that came over the United States under his administration. According to Waltz, the Pentagon is saying that there have been spy balloons over the U.S. in the past, including some over Florida that he said he was previously told about."I don't ever recall somebody coming into my office or reading anything that the Chinese had a surveillance balloon above the United States," former Secretary of Defense Mark Esper told CNN. "I would remember that for sure." According to the report, a senior administration official told Fox Sunday that "U.S. intelligence, not the Biden administration, but U.S. intel assesses [Chinese] government surveillance balloons transited the continental U.S. briefly at least three times during the prior administration and once that we know of at the beginning of this administration, but never for this duration of time."That confirms what Waltz had posted earlier on Sunday morning. "The Office of the Secretary of Defense has informed my office that several Chinese balloon incidents have happened in the past few years - including over Florida. Why weren’t they shot down?" he asked. "And according to several Trump Admin national security officials — they were never informed of these intrusions by the Pentagon."It's unknown why the Pentagon would not have informed the top officials, but it could be why the former president would have asserted that nothing like that happened under his leadership. Waltz, a former Green Beret, hasn't revealed any further details what he was told in the past Chinese spying. Fox cited former Acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller, who said that he'd "never heard of a Chinese spy balloon while he was in government." A simple search turned up at least one incident of a Chinese spy balloon over India in 2019 from Tibet. Other balloons have now been spotted over Columbia and Costa Rica, CNN reported Sunday afternoon. It's unclear whether the Pentagon will answer questions publicly on past balloons or whether that information is considered to be classified. www.rawstory.com/chinese-spy-balloon-trump/
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 6, 2023 2:16:09 GMT
And more.. Evidence of other Chinese balloons 'discovered after' Trump left office: official David Edwards February 05, 2023 Former President Donald Trump's administration reportedly failed to detect at least three possible Chinese spy balloons during his time in office. A Department of Defense official revealed over the weekend the existence of the three balloons after President Joe Biden ordered the U.S. military to shoot down a fourth balloon.In a statement to Fox News, Trump said that the balloon incidents "never happened" during his presidency. An official, however, confirmed to Fox News that the balloons had only been "discovered after" Trump left office. "They went undetected," the official said. "These balloons are all part of a PRC fleet of balloons developed to conduct surveillance operations, which have also violated the sovereignty of other countries." "Two things can be true at once: this happened and it wasn’t detected," the person added. It was not immediately clear why the balloons were not detected under the Trump administration. ...... www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-chinese-balloons/
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Post by onelasttime on Feb 6, 2023 3:07:14 GMT
Holy cow. The DOD released a statement about the 3 balloons that flew across parts of our country during dumpster don’s administration. And she is claiming it’s fake, wow!
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Post by Scrapper100 on Feb 6, 2023 4:01:36 GMT
Holy cow. The DOD released a statement about the 3 balloons that flew across parts of our country during dumpster don’s administration. And she is claiming it’s fake, wow! So did he or did he not know about them? I thought I read he did snd hid the information then other reports say the pentagon knew but didn’t share the info. I could see maybe not telling him for fear of what he would do but … then if he did know and ignored it because of business deals. That’s another thing altogether but if he didn’t know then it’s not really on him I guess. I know I wouldn’t believe what he says as he will lie about anything to make himself look better I do wonder if he knew or were they in the briefings he didn’t read? I just know I’m getting whiplash from the Rs responses as they change so much from minute to minute.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 6, 2023 4:12:14 GMT
I stated in the first piece about the DOD that it is a developing story.
And who knows what was happening... Surely not I!!
I think someone needs to get it all figured out. The situation is NOT something that should be swept under the rug.
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Post by onelasttime on Feb 6, 2023 23:21:47 GMT
That makes sense to me.
So know the clown show aka as the Republicans in Congress are looking kind of silly unless they have verifiable proof none of this is true.
From AP
”White House: Improved surveillance caught Chinese balloon”
”WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. officials said Monday that improvements ordered by President Joe Biden to strengthen defenses against Chinese espionage helped to identify last week’s spy balloon — and to determine that similar flights were conducted at multiple points during the Trump administration.
White House National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan said that after Biden took office, the U.S. “enhanced our surveillance of our territorial airspace, we enhanced our capacity to be able to detect things that the Trump administration was unable to detect.”
Biden, in turn, has been faulted by some Republicans for not ordering the balloon shot down before it made its way across the U.S. Officials have said there was concern about damage to people on the ground, and Biden addressed the issue on Monday.
“Once it came over to the United States, from Canada, I told the Defense Department I wanted to shoot it down as soon as it was appropriate,” Biden said. The military concluded “we should not shoot it down over land, it was not a serious threat.”
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Post by Laurie on Feb 7, 2023 0:48:18 GMT
I thought this was visible from land? Was I assuming wrong?
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Feb 7, 2023 0:57:31 GMT
Interesting that in all of GOP being interviewed, they list so many sensitive areas the balloon flew over.. Why not keep your damn mouths shut!! Total disregarding all the satellites up there in space! Just mentioned that our satellites are able to read a license plate on earth, surely the Chinese satellites are just as efficient!! Does anyone in the GOP consider that their words are important? Let's be honest here...they would be complaining regardless of what the decision was regarding shooting it down or leaving it. All they care about is finding a way to make themselves look better than Biden. But while they are playing their political games here, their messages are heard loud and clear in other countries and they do matter. When you see immigrants coming to the US saying that they think the borders are open or that they will get a free bus ride to whatever city they want, where do you think they are hearing that? Oh yeah...one party repeats that day in and day out. All to try to make their political opponents look bad. In the meanwhile they are causing harm to countless people making the trek here as well as making the situation more difficult for all trying to improve the situation for those who do make it. We have GOP congresspeople and Fox hosts siding with Russia. Who do you think hears that? And now we have them telling us what China certainly was thinking, causing more of a ruckus than needed, and going on and on to make the President look weak. What will the consequences of all of that be? It's nothing positive for the rest of us that is for sure.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 7, 2023 1:08:10 GMT
I thought this was visible from land? Was I assuming wrong? The balloon? Yes, depending on weather. It surely was Saturday over the Atlantic was a spectacular day.
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Post by onelasttime on Feb 7, 2023 1:35:35 GMT
Doesn’t trump keep claiming that no one was tougher on China then he was.
Apparently that’s not so.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 7, 2023 2:03:31 GMT
Soooo.... Chinese spy balloons reportedly flew near U.S. military bases while Donald Trump was president, but the balloons were categorized at the time as “unidentified aerial phenomena” — commonly referred to as unidentified flying objects or UFOs. Bloomberg first reported that the balloons had been spotted near bases in Guam, Norfolk, Virginia, and Coronado, California, according to "people who requested anonymity to discuss intelligence matters." Balloons were said to have also been seen near Texas, Florida, and Hawaii during Trump's presidency, the people said. The report said that balloons found during Trump's presidency were smaller in size and miscategorized as “unidentified aerial phenomena” by officials at the time. Bloomberg's sources said the balloons were discovered after Trump left office because intelligence gathering on the aircraft improved in response to China's continued use of the spy vehicles. www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-chinese-spy-balloons/
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