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Post by AussieMeg on Mar 2, 2023 9:53:53 GMT
..... for death row inmates. After the profanities that flew out of my mouth when I read this, I am now speechless.
For those who can't see the Tweet:
During a committee hearing on a bill to bring back the electric chair and firing squads, Rep. Paul Sherrell (R-TN) says they should also bring back lynching.
"Thank you Chairman, and ah thank you Representative Powers for bringing this, I think it's a very good idea, and I was just wondering about, could I put amendment on that it would include hanging by a tree also. And ah also I would like to sign on to your bill sir."
(Not sure if I transposed that accurately, his good ol' boy accent was a bit thick.)
Seriously, what is wrong with these people?
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Post by AussieMeg on Mar 2, 2023 9:56:19 GMT
Oh, but now he's apologising. Of course. “I regret that I used very poor judgment in voicing my support of a colleague’s bill in the Criminal Justice Committee on Tuesday. My exaggerated comments were intended to convey my belief that for the cruelest and most heinous crimes, a just society requires the death penalty in kind. Although a victim’s family cannot be restored when an execution is carried out, a lesser punishment undermines the value we place on protecting life. My intention was to express my support of families who often wait decades for justice. I sincerely apologize to anyone who may have been hurt or offended.” |
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Post by gillyp on Mar 2, 2023 11:01:37 GMT
..... for death row inmates. After the profanities that flew out of my mouth when I read this, I am now speechless. This. And in despair. |
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Post by gar on Mar 2, 2023 11:04:01 GMT
Yeah...lots of rude words I could attribute to him  |
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Post by elaine on Mar 2, 2023 11:16:23 GMT
..... for death row inmates. After the profanities that flew out of my mouth when I read this, I am now speechless. For those who can't see the Tweet: During a committee hearing on a bill to bring back the electric chair and firing squads, Rep. Paul Sherrell (R-TN) says they should also bring back lynching. "Thank you Chairman, and ah thank you Representative Powers for bringing this, I think it's a very good idea, and I was just wondering about, could I put amendment on that it would include hanging by a tree also. And ah also I would like to sign on to your bill sir." (Not sure if I transposed that accurately, his good ol' boy accent was a bit thick.) Seriously, what is wrong with these people? This. WTAF is wrong with people like this? |
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Post by J u l e e on Mar 2, 2023 11:33:13 GMT
Oh, but now he's apologising. Of course. “I regret that I used very poor judgment in voicing my support of a colleague’s bill in the Criminal Justice Committee on Tuesday. My exaggerated comments were intended to convey my belief that for the cruelest and most heinous crimes, a just society requires the death penalty in kind. Although a victim’s family cannot be restored when an execution is carried out, a lesser punishment undermines the value we place on protecting life. My intention was to express my support of families who often wait decades for justice. I sincerely apologize to anyone who may have been hurt or offended.” There are very few times I don’t accept the words someone uses when they apologize. His apology makes absolutely zero sense in the face of his comment about hanging. It’s useless and he’s a horrid human. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 2, 2023 11:54:12 GMT
The party of pro-life speaks out again for death with cruel and unusual punishment.
Hanging by tree has a very specific intent.
(Not that saying gallows would be better)
Does he forget that Jan 6 they called for public hanging of our sitting Vice President at the time, a member of their own political party?!?!
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Post by pinklady on Mar 2, 2023 14:47:51 GMT
Only someone who is severely mentally unbalanced would willing identify as and support republicans.
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Post by katiescarlett on Mar 2, 2023 15:29:09 GMT
What is the basis for even wanting to bring back the electric chair and firing squads?? Why in the world are they wasting time having a hearing on something this ridiculous?
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Post by crazy4scraps on Mar 2, 2023 15:33:51 GMT
..... for death row inmates. After the profanities that flew out of my mouth when I read this, I am now speechless. For those who can't see the Tweet: During a committee hearing on a bill to bring back the electric chair and firing squads, Rep. Paul Sherrell (R-TN) says they should also bring back lynching. "Thank you Chairman, and ah thank you Representative Powers for bringing this, I think it's a very good idea, and I was just wondering about, could I put amendment on that it would include hanging by a tree also. And ah also I would like to sign on to your bill sir." (Not sure if I transposed that accurately, his good ol' boy accent was a bit thick.) Seriously, what is wrong with these people? This. WTAF is wrong with people like this? You took the words right out of my mouth. 😳😳😳 I just can’t even with these people anymore. |
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Post by scrapmaven on Mar 2, 2023 15:59:52 GMT
OMG! Let me pull my white sheet out of the dryer and find some dumbass friends and join this hateful bastard. We live w/some really scary people in this world.
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Post by lucyg on Mar 2, 2023 16:57:15 GMT
Not that this guy isn’t despicable. But Brian Tyler Cohen made several mistakes in his reporting of this incident, and honestly, I would have expected better of him.
#1 this is not a U.S. Congressman. From BTC’s description, it sounds like he is. But actually he’s a Tennessee state representative. This exchange took place in the Tennessee House, not the U.S. House.
#2 he did not use the term “lynching.” BTC is the one who brought in that word. It doesn’t mean “hanging from a tree,” although that’s actually how many lynchings were/are accomplished. It means an extra-legal murder, not imposed by the government. Again, BTC ought to know better.
Now, was the implication to bring lynching to mind? Of course. But real journalists should do better.
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Post by epeanymous on Mar 2, 2023 18:45:11 GMT
What is the basis for even wanting to bring back the electric chair and firing squads?? Why in the world are they wasting time having a hearing on something this ridiculous? States are having difficulty getting their hands on the drugs used in lethal injection executions. They've had to switch a number of times, because, eg, the drug manufacturers won't sell their drugs for the purpose of killing people. It is also difficult to get qualified personnel to administer the drugs. And there have been a number of botched executions involving lethal injection. To be clear, I'm explaining, not defending. This is absolutely grotesque, all of it, and cheapens us as a country. |
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Post by myshelly on Mar 2, 2023 18:52:56 GMT
I am not defending this man or his ridiculous line of debate, BUT!
The use of the word lynching here is absolutely incorrect. I don’t think it’s ok to just throw that word around willy nilly and pretend like it doesn’t have an actual meaning.
The truth is much less sensational (as it usually is). There’s a shortage of drugs used for lethal injection, so states that use the death penalty are looking at other means of execution.
I don’t agree with this man, but headlines like this thread title are just patently false and don’t do anything to help actual political discourse. They are just fuel to the argument that there’s untruth and sensationalism on both sides.
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Post by pinklady on Mar 2, 2023 19:19:55 GMT
I am not defending this man or his ridiculous line of debate, BUT! The use of the word lynching here is absolutely incorrect. I don’t think it’s ok to just throw that word around willy nilly and pretend like it doesn’t have an actual meaning. The truth is much less sensational (as it usually is). There’s a shortage of drugs used for lethal injection, so states that use the death penalty are looking at other means of execution. I don’t agree with this man, but headlines like this thread title are just patently false and don’t do anything to help actual political discourse. They are just fuel to the argument that there’s untruth and sensationalism on both sides. Seriously! Fuck all the way off! |
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Post by myshelly on Mar 2, 2023 19:20:48 GMT
I am not defending this man or his ridiculous line of debate, BUT! The use of the word lynching here is absolutely incorrect. I don’t think it’s ok to just throw that word around willy nilly and pretend like it doesn’t have an actual meaning. The truth is much less sensational (as it usually is). There’s a shortage of drugs used for lethal injection, so states that use the death penalty are looking at other means of execution. I don’t agree with this man, but headlines like this thread title are just patently false and don’t do anything to help actual political discourse. They are just fuel to the argument that there’s untruth and sensationalism on both sides. Seriously! Fuck all the way off! Excellent job of being less sensational. |
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Post by lucyg on Mar 2, 2023 19:22:51 GMT
I am not defending this man or his ridiculous line of debate, BUT! The use of the word lynching here is absolutely incorrect. I don’t think it’s ok to just throw that word around willy nilly and pretend like it doesn’t have an actual meaning. The truth is much less sensational (as it usually is). There’s a shortage of drugs used for lethal injection, so states that use the death penalty are looking at other means of execution. I don’t agree with this man, but headlines like this thread title are just patently false and don’t do anything to help actual political discourse. They are just fuel to the argument that there’s untruth and sensationalism on both sides. I agree with you (see my post two above yours) BUT you also need to acknowledge that he didn’t just say, let’s bring back hanging. He specifically said “hanging by tree.” Which absolutely does bring up the specter of lynching, even if BTC didn’t use the term accurately. |
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Post by myshelly on Mar 2, 2023 19:26:18 GMT
I am not defending this man or his ridiculous line of debate, BUT! The use of the word lynching here is absolutely incorrect. I don’t think it’s ok to just throw that word around willy nilly and pretend like it doesn’t have an actual meaning. The truth is much less sensational (as it usually is). There’s a shortage of drugs used for lethal injection, so states that use the death penalty are looking at other means of execution. I don’t agree with this man, but headlines like this thread title are just patently false and don’t do anything to help actual political discourse. They are just fuel to the argument that there’s untruth and sensationalism on both sides. I agree with you (see my post two above yours) BUT you also need to acknowledge that he didn’t just say, let’s bring back hanging. He specifically said “hanging by tree.” Which absolutely does bring up the specter of lynching, even if BTC didn’t use the term accurately. I absolutely agree with you that he purposely invoked that imagery and that he did so with ill intent. I just still believe that you have to report the entire context of the debate. And that executing (regardless of method) someone who is on death row, which means they have been lawfully convicted of a crime and gone through the requisite appeals, will never be the same as lynching. |
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Post by birukitty on Mar 2, 2023 22:08:08 GMT
What is the basis for even wanting to bring back the electric chair and firing squads?? Why in the world are they wasting time having a hearing on something this ridiculous? States are having difficulty getting their hands on the drugs used in lethal injection executions. They've had to switch a number of times, because, eg, the drug manufacturers won't sell their drugs for the purpose of killing people. It is also difficult to get qualified personnel to administer the drugs. And there have been a number of botched executions involving lethal injection. To be clear, I'm explaining, not defending. This is absolutely grotesque, all of it, and cheapens us as a country. We are the only western country to still use the death penalty. Most first world countries have abolished the death penalty except for the USA, China, India, Japan, South Korea and most Islamic states. And yes, I know not all of those countries are first world countries. I think it's time we abolish the death penalty. |
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Post by epeanymous on Mar 2, 2023 23:26:44 GMT
States are having difficulty getting their hands on the drugs used in lethal injection executions. They've had to switch a number of times, because, eg, the drug manufacturers won't sell their drugs for the purpose of killing people. It is also difficult to get qualified personnel to administer the drugs. And there have been a number of botched executions involving lethal injection. To be clear, I'm explaining, not defending. This is absolutely grotesque, all of it, and cheapens us as a country. We are the only western country to still use the death penalty. Most first world countries have abolished the death penalty except for the USA, China, India, Japan, South Korea and most Islamic states. And yes, I know not all of those countries are first world countries. I think it's time we abolish the death penalty. Part of what is grotesque is that we sort of have. In the overwhelming majority of counties in the US, there is no such thing as the death penalty -- either because the state doesn't have it, or because the county has determined not to use it. Who gets executed in this country is basically an accident of geography (along with a bunch of other things, but I'm making the geography point here). |
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Post by annaintx on Mar 3, 2023 0:32:09 GMT
Nobody has mentioned the fact that over 18,000 people "hearted" that thing, either.
SMH.
I hate this timeline.
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Post by birukitty on Mar 3, 2023 0:38:16 GMT
We are the only western country to still use the death penalty. Most first world countries have abolished the death penalty except for the USA, China, India, Japan, South Korea and most Islamic states. And yes, I know not all of those countries are first world countries. I think it's time we abolish the death penalty. Part of what is grotesque is that we sort of have. In the overwhelming majority of counties in the US, there is no such thing as the death penalty -- either because the state doesn't have it, or because the county has determined not to use it. Who gets executed in this country is basically an accident of geography (along with a bunch of other things, but I'm making the geography point here). I get that but what I am saying is that I'd like to see this nation wide-abolish the death penalty nationwide. It's sick, disgusting and inhumane that while we euthanize our pets with a painless injection, this Tenn. state representative and others like him are all for bringing back the electric chair, firing squads and hangings. |
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Post by AussieMeg on Mar 3, 2023 1:29:13 GMT
#2 he did not use the term “lynching.” BTC is the one who brought in that word. It doesn’t mean “hanging from a tree,” although that’s actually how many lynchings were/are accomplished. It means an extra-legal murder, not imposed by the government. Again, BTC ought to know better. Now, was the implication to bring lynching to mind? Of course. But real journalists should do better. You're right, which is why I ended up copying the actual quote, that did not use the word "lynching". I probably should have at least put "lynching" inside quotation marks in the subject field, but I ran out of room! A number of people mentioned your very point on Twitter, and others replied that because he specified "hanging from a tree", that implies "lynching". Either way, it's fucking barbaric. |
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Post by AussieMeg on Mar 3, 2023 1:32:26 GMT
And I want to know, Paul Sherrell, what trees would you like them to use? Are you proposing that we plant special trees in the prison grounds to use for these hangings? Or should we take the prisoners out to the local park, and hang them from one of the trees there, so that the public can come and enjoy them too?
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Post by lucyg on Mar 3, 2023 1:41:04 GMT
#2 he did not use the term “lynching.” BTC is the one who brought in that word. It doesn’t mean “hanging from a tree,” although that’s actually how many lynchings were/are accomplished. It means an extra-legal murder, not imposed by the government. Again, BTC ought to know better. Now, was the implication to bring lynching to mind? Of course. But real journalists should do better. You're right, which is why I ended up copying the actual quote, that did not use the word "lynching". I probably should have at least put "lynching" inside quotation marks in the subject field, but I ran out of room! A number of people mentioned your very point on Twitter, and others replied that because he specified "hanging from a tree", that implies "lynching". Either way, it's fucking barbaric. I don’t blame you at all. I wouldn’t expect you to be on top of all these stupid nuances that are ours alone.  I’m just mad at (1) this assholian state representative (and all of them) and (2) Brian Tyler Cohen, who should know better. Maybe I’ll go look at the comments. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 3, 2023 1:56:25 GMT
lucyg he didn't have to use the word lynching. As I posted earlier today, the intent was there signified by his use of 'hanging by a tree'
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Post by lucyg on Mar 3, 2023 1:58:53 GMT
revirdsuba99, yes, I did say the same thing. Maybe in a different post.
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Post by pinklady on Mar 3, 2023 3:37:03 GMT
The fact that some on this thread are trying to justify semantics is repulsive. You all know what that old white southern man meant when he said "hanging by a tree".
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Post by used2scrap on Mar 3, 2023 5:52:07 GMT
Deplorable
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Post by lucyg on Mar 3, 2023 6:13:59 GMT
The fact that some on this thread are trying to justify semantics is repulsive. You all know what that old white southern man meant when he said "hanging by a tree". Yes, I do. I also care about accurate reporting. So sue me. |
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