pantsonfire
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Post by pantsonfire on Mar 17, 2023 15:07:22 GMT
Saw someone use it yesterday on a demo video and it looked like they were having a difficult time using it. It seems you have to hold the small plastic lip down and then push down on the rotary cutter and push through. Not sure if it is user friendly for those with disabilities, arthritis, etc. $100-$140 depending on where you live. timholtz.com/tonic-rotary-media-trimmer/
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pinklady
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Post by pinklady on Mar 17, 2023 15:30:56 GMT
I watched Jennifer McGuires video on this trimmer and I have to agree, it did not look comfortable to use. This is one tool that just doesn't appeal to me.
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Post by mcjunkin on Mar 17, 2023 16:13:02 GMT
IN TH's live demo on YouTube yesterday, he said specifically to NOT push down on the carriage, to just grip on the sides and slide. So it seems a little different than some of the ones I have had in the past. Maybe pushing down is a habit and is causing the blade carriage to drag on the rail?
I have a 12 x 12 Fiskars rotary that does what I need it to do. The one thing that I was excited about the new one for, is the 6" mark. On mine, 6" falls in the fold on the platform base and I have to guess. I seem to cut 6" a lot for some reason.
Still on the fence. Scrapbook dot com has it for 79.99 and ACOT is preorder at the moment with 20% off with their PREORDER code.
ETA: Seems scrapbook dot com is out of stock the moment. Still at ACOT for preorder for same price.
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lindas
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Post by lindas on Mar 17, 2023 17:39:33 GMT
I’m considering it. I have an old rotary trimmer I bought years ago that I really like but it takes up too much valuable real estate on my desk so I replaced it with a Fiskers. Now I’m finding it hard to get replacement blades so when my current stash is gone I’ll be in the market for a new trimmer.
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Post by grammadee on Mar 17, 2023 18:04:54 GMT
I have a 12 x 12 Fiskars rotary that does what I need it to do. The one thing that I was excited about the new one for, is the 6" mark. On mine, 6" falls in the fold on the platform base and I have to guess. I seem to cut 6" a lot for some reason. I have the Fiskars' rotary trimmer too. I agree that having a 6" mark would help on that one, but wouldn't want to give up the whole platform instead of those two flimsy rulers. Just cut 4 layers of 80 lb cs with it yesterday and it cut like butter, so not yet feel the need for the TH trimmer.
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Post by mcjunkin on Mar 17, 2023 18:32:26 GMT
I have a 12 x 12 Fiskars rotary that does what I need it to do. The one thing that I was excited about the new one for, is the 6" mark. On mine, 6" falls in the fold on the platform base and I have to guess. I seem to cut 6" a lot for some reason. I have the Fiskars' rotary trimmer too. I agree that having a 6" mark would help on that one, but wouldn't want to give up the whole platform instead of those two flimsy rulers. Just cut 4 layers of 80 lb cs with it yesterday and it cut like butter, so not yet feel the need for the TH trimmer. Yeah, I did the chipboard test on mine yesterday (secretly hoping it would not cut through it). It cut just fine. sigh. And three pieces of watercolor paper. sigh. I scrapbook less now and do more cards and mixed media, so the 12" platform is not as big a deal to me anymore. But if it were a priority, then yeah, no way would I consider this new one. Not a fan of flip out rulers.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Mar 19, 2023 15:46:40 GMT
OMG, I have been trying to find the perfect trimmer since I got back into scrapping 15 years ago. I have my original guillotine trimmer from an office supply store bought in the 90s. I have a Carl rotary trimmer, fiskars trimmer with cheap blade that hooks over a rail, big fiskars rotary self sharpening with the double rail, small tonic guillotine.
I’m actually back to using the fiskars with the cheap blade because it’s the only one that lets me get small cuts on a small piece of paper or gut a 12x12. And none seem to make a square cut no matter what I do.
I’ve tried a cutterpiller at a crop and got seriously wonky cuts.
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Post by kitbop on Mar 19, 2023 16:56:29 GMT
I’m actually back to using the fiskars with the cheap blade because it’s the only one that lets me get small cuts on a small piece of paper or gut a 12x12 Exactly this! Those partial cuts are so important to me and only those "cheap" blades (not so cheap) seem to work precisely. With this risk of tearing your paper if they aren't sharp, and with the risk of crooked cuts (you get to know each trimmer tho, and I compensate). With rotary blades it's much more difficult to start/stop exactly at a point. \ For "full length" chopping, I have an 8.5" guillotine, and got the big tonic guillotine for christmas. Glad I don't need this rotary trimmer because it's $140 in Canada!
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Post by GiantsFan on Mar 20, 2023 16:21:33 GMT
I’m actually back to using the fiskars with the cheap blade because it’s the only one that lets me get small cuts on a small piece of paper or gut a 12x12 Exactly this! Those partial cuts are so important to me and only those "cheap" blades (not so cheap) seem to work precisely. With this risk of tearing your paper if they aren't sharp, and with the risk of crooked cuts (you get to know each trimmer tho, and I compensate). With rotary blades it's much more difficult to start/stop exactly at a point. \ For "full length" chopping, I have an 8.5" guillotine, and got the big tonic guillotine for christmas. Glad I don't need this rotary trimmer because it's $140 in Canada! I keep my old circa 1990's Fiskars just for the partial inside cuts. I love my TH guillotine trimmers (I have the 8.5" and the 12"). I also have the Fiskars ProCision (rarely use because I think the cut is off). I do not need this new one. I do not need this new one. I do not need this new one.... $140 Canadian is crazy!
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Post by mrssch on Mar 21, 2023 17:30:46 GMT
the TH Trimmer seems like a great product for the price point. several years ago, i invested in the ROTATRIM RC15– a 15” rotary trimmer. it is fantastic - precise and easy to use; but an investment. i paid $225 and it’s currently around $300. i expect it to last a lifetime.
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Post by peacentral on Mar 21, 2023 19:02:05 GMT
I don't like the trimmers with the fixed arm that you can't lift it to see what's under it. I know he says you can see if you look at the right angle, but that would be hard for me to get at the right angle to see where the cutting edge is. A lot of the people showing it are cutting based on measurements but a lot of the times I do the cutting based on the design - like for the cut apart papers. I need to see better where I cut.
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Post by papersilly on Mar 21, 2023 21:43:36 GMT
i want this but i don't want to pay full retail. i have the fiskar procision and i love it. what draws me to the TH one is that it glides on gears so there you don't have to exert as much force to cut thicker items. i'm really hoping it shows up at Joanns so i can put a coupon on it. even 25% off is good. $99 is just steep when i already have a perfectly good trimmer. it's more of a want that a need item so i'm willing to wait out a lower price.
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Post by papersilly on Mar 21, 2023 21:48:47 GMT
I have a 12 x 12 Fiskars rotary that does what I need it to do. The one thing that I was excited about the new one for, is the 6" mark. On mine, 6" falls in the fold on the platform base and I have to guess. I seem to cut 6" a lot for some reason. this is what bugs me the most about the fiskars procision. i do a lot of 6" (+ or - 1/8" here and there too) cuts. the fact that it all falls in the at or near fold bugs me to no end. this is what has me looking around for other trimmers. that and the ability to cut through thicker materials.
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Post by mcjunkin on Mar 24, 2023 13:25:31 GMT
i want this but i don't want to pay full retail. i have the fiskar procision and i love it. what draws me to the TH one is that it glides on gears so there you don't have to exert as much force to cut thicker items. i'm really hoping it shows up at Joanns so i can put a coupon on it. even 25% off is good. $99 is just steep when i already have a perfectly good trimmer. it's more of a want that a need item so i'm willing to wait out a lower price. A Cherry on Top has it back in stock for a PREORDER. You can use code PREORDER to get $20 off. Shipping for me hit right around $10. In his live, TH said that he did not know of any big box stores that are carrying it. Did not say never, but who knows.
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Post by amyl on Mar 25, 2023 11:25:51 GMT
I bought it and am anxiously awaiting its arrival. I purchased from ACOT for 20% off. I loved my Fiskars Procision and think it was worth every penny. My only complaint was that daggone cut at 6”. It lasted me about 10 years before it started cutting wonky. I then purchased the Tonic guillotine which I like, but I’ve never been in love with. Cutters for a scrapbooker and/or card maker are worth every penny in my opinion if they work as advertised. I’m betting Tim’s does. I find most of his products to be exactly as he promises.
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Post by mcjunkin on Mar 25, 2023 13:09:58 GMT
I bought it and am anxiously awaiting its arrival. I purchased from ACOT for 20% off. I loved my Fiskars Procision and think it was worth every penny. My only complaint was that daggone cut at 6”. It lasted me about 10 years before it started cutting wonky. I then purchased the Tonic guillotine which I like, but I’ve never been in love with. Cutters for a scrapbooker and/or card maker are worth every penny in my opinion if they work as advertised. I’m betting Tim’s does. I find most of his products to be exactly as he promises. Yeah, I broke over too and got the preorder from ACOT when they restocked and opened it back up, while I can still get it for less than full price. The guillotine trimmer is good for small single quick cuts. I like it. But I agree nothing can replace a good rotary trimmer. Like I said above, I put my Procision through the paces, and it would cut chipboard and stuff. But that 6" mark was just screaming for me, LOL.
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Post by lindas on Mar 25, 2023 13:39:17 GMT
I bought it and am anxiously awaiting its arrival. I purchased from ACOT for 20% off. I loved my Fiskars Procision and think it was worth every penny. My only complaint was that daggone cut at 6”. It lasted me about 10 years before it started cutting wonky. I then purchased the Tonic guillotine which I like, but I’ve never been in love with. Cutters for a scrapbooker and/or card maker are worth every penny in my opinion if they work as advertised. I’m betting Tim’s does. I find most of his products to be exactly as he promises. Yeah, I broke over too and got the preorder from ACOT when they restocked and opened it back up, while I can still get it for less than full price. The guillotine trimmer is good for small single quick cuts. I like it. But I agree nothing can replace a good rotary trimmer. Like I said above, I put my Procision through the paces, and it would cut chipboard and stuff. But that 6" mark was just screaming for me, LOL. I’m going to be in the market for a new trimmer in the not so distant future and this one is on my radar. After you get it please come back and give us an honest review before I sink this much money into a trimmer. I trust the Peas more then I trust the YouTubers.
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Post by scrapnnana on Mar 25, 2023 15:28:41 GMT
I have both large and a small Tonic guillotine (handle comes down from the top edge) trimmers. They are absolute workhorses, and the blades are as sharp as ever despite constant use.
Tonic trimmers do have a good reputation for staying sharp even with constant use, so if the Tim Holtz Tonic rotary trimmer has a blade that stays sharp the way the other Tonic trimmers do, it would probably be worth the price for those who buy it, if you prefer a rotary trimmer but want blades that don’t have to be replaced often.
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Post by katiekaty on Mar 25, 2023 16:49:34 GMT
I have an older trimmer I like. It uses standard rotary trimmer blades that also fit handheld trimmers. I ok Ike because I know that I don’t ever have t worry about finding replacement blades. I have a new in the package spare in case I break this one. It runs about 22-25 dollars at Michaels or Joanne’s and I used the 40% off coupon. I won’t pay a high price for of over $100 for a difficult to use trimmer when there are lesser priced trimmer that work as well or better.
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Post by tinksmommy on Mar 26, 2023 18:35:56 GMT
I was all in in getting one of these until I started reading the comments. It gave me a different perspective. I have a Procision as the main trimmer in my workspace and at least 8 other trimmers. The rotary blade is very intriguing on Tim’s new trimmer but those swing out arms really bug me. I guess I would expect a full platform when unfolded for $99. I do cut out the inside of my papers quite often. I guess I’ll stick with what I have for the time being. Maybe the reviews from the Peas will change my mind.
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pantsonfire
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Post by pantsonfire on Mar 26, 2023 22:00:46 GMT
Well you may be able to cut at 6" but there is a gap at 6.5".
From a verified buyer on SB dot com
"You cannot cut 6.5 inches, there are no markings.
I cut chipboard and paper today for a folio. I had several sheets to cut at 6.5 inches and I couldn’t do it on this cutter. There is a skip in the measuring tape. Unfortunately the cutter is curved there, so you can’t get an accurate measurement to even write anything in. If anyone has a workaround I’d like to hear it."
I have also seen a few complaints of not cutting straight and some for testing the paper.
Not sure if I am sold on this.
My Fiskars rotary is cutting just fine and the only issue is the 6" gap but I just pre measure and mark with pencil where to cut.
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pantsonfire
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Post by pantsonfire on Mar 26, 2023 22:06:52 GMT
So after watching a few videos, it seems like that clear bar to hold paper will hinder cutting small pieces. On my Fiskars, I can hold the paper pretty close to where the blade track is to cut small strips of paper down even more.
That plastic piece hinders you from doing that.
Hmm...
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Post by don on Mar 26, 2023 23:42:55 GMT
I was looking blade replacement, you buy the carriage piece for $15, instead of a rotary blade for a buck.
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Post by mcjunkin on Mar 27, 2023 17:52:33 GMT
So after watching a few videos, it seems like that clear bar to hold paper will hinder cutting small pieces. On my Fiskars, I can hold the paper pretty close to where the blade track is to cut small strips of paper down even more. That plastic piece hinders you from doing that. Hmm... On my Procision, the clear guard hits at about 1 3/4", and this new one looks to hit between 1 1/2" to 1 3/4", so about the same for me. I have had to get used to that, as I think my old single-rail Fishers was a lot easier to maneuver with small strips. But yes, if you are not accustomed to that, it will be aggravating to get used to. Bummer about no 6.5" mark, and would've been easier to eyeball if they designed that edge straight, but I use 6" so much that I think I am coming out better gaining that and losing the 6.5 We shall see. I had not noticed that before. But that missing 6" mark has troubled me forever. And 5.5 is on the edge and crooked too. I curse it every time I use it. If it did not cut better than a lot of other ones I would've thrown it out long ago. My old one did not fold, and I have loathed the day it quit working and I had to get that folding platform. Mine is shipping out today. I guess I will know before long if it will live up to the Tim Holtz hype. LOL
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Post by papersilly on Mar 27, 2023 18:23:15 GMT
those swing out arms really bug me. I guess I would expect a full platform when unfolded for $99. that's a bugger for me too. at the least procision is a full platform when it folds out.
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Post by marg on Mar 28, 2023 18:53:00 GMT
I have a few trimmers but I'm never really satisfied with them. My favourite is the Tim Holtz smaller guillotine - but it doesn't cut a full sheet of 8.5x11 paper lengthwise nor does it cut 12x12. I'm tempted to get the new rotary one because the blade stays sharp - I have to change my blades so often on my Fiskars and Stampin' Up trimmers. My paper gets such a rough edge from them. Even with a new blade the SU trimmer leaves a lip on the paper. My birthday is in May so I think I'll put it on my birthday list - using Crop and Create discounts I can probably get 20% off from a Canadian store. I did see that A Class act sells it for about $120 Cdn instead of $140 like everyone else. No free shipping for it, though.
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Post by retrofunscrapper on Mar 29, 2023 0:07:03 GMT
I took the plunge on this and have it in my hot little hands. LOL I am perimenopausal and have had joint stiffness for a while, so the fact that it takes way less pressure and no heel-of-the-hand mashing appealed to me, and the 1-inch option on the right-hand side is up my alley, too. I’ve had multiple guillotine and rotary trimmers (and always at least one slide-blade trimmer for any inside-cut type projects), so hoping this could be “the one” as far as basic straight, clean cutting without a ton of force.
I should get to try it out tonight or tomorrow. I’ve noted the recommendations from Tim & Jennifer McGuire as to hand placement and grip for optimal clean cutting and will try to adhere to that in order to avoid user error. Fingers crossed for a winner.
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Post by marg on Mar 29, 2023 1:39:29 GMT
I took the plunge on this and have it in my hot little hands. LOL I am perimenopausal and have had joint stiffness for a while, so the fact that it takes way less pressure and no heel-of-the-hand mashing appealed to me, and the 1-inch option on the right-hand side is up my alley, too. I’ve had multiple guillotine and rotary trimmers (and always at least one slide-blade trimmer for any inside-cut type projects), so hoping this could be “the one” as far as basic straight, clean cutting without a ton of force. I should get to try it out tonight or tomorrow. I’ve noted the recommendations from Tim & Jennifer McGuire as to hand placement and grip for optimal clean cutting and will try to adhere to that in order to avoid user error. Fingers crossed for a winner. How exciting! Please report back once you've gotten the hang of it!
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Post by don on Mar 29, 2023 3:35:12 GMT
This is the main reason I miss the LSS, they use to have demos to try before you buy, now all we have is the hassle of returns.
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pantsonfire
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Post by pantsonfire on Mar 29, 2023 14:17:58 GMT
This is the main reason I miss the LSS, they use to have demos to try before you buy, now all we have is the hassle of returns. Yes I miss that too. That is why I like when peas share about their purchases. I trust pea reviews of gushing, googly eyed, kissing up, fawning over reviews on YouTube. Like can you not fan girl?!
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