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Post by SweetieBugs on Jun 16, 2023 20:47:44 GMT
I'm not in a "prime" earthquake area and don't know if there has ever been damage sustained from a Bay Area or closer earthquake in my area so it's not at the top of my list of needs but I got a legally required notice from my home insurer stating that my regular policy doesn't include earthquake coverage (which I already knew so that wasn't a surprise).
There is a coverage offer but it's pretty outrageous. (1) The dwelling coverage wouldn't even cover 75% of the cost it would take to rebuild, (2) the deductible is $104,000, (3) it includes only $5,000 for contents--I'd suffer that much loss just from my kitchen and dining room hutch!!! (4) only includes $1,500 for Additional Living Expenses. This is pretty crazy. Of course, the alternative is no coverage, but this sounds so inadequate.
Do people in hurricane or tornado areas have to have special insurance riders like this?
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Post by ~summer~ on Jun 16, 2023 21:02:11 GMT
No I’ve never had it…but our homeowners has been cancelled multiple times bc we are in the highest zone for wildfire damage…
My parents’ Bay Area house does have earthquake insurance bc their house is literally on top of a fault. I know they pay thru the nose for it.
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Post by leeny on Jun 16, 2023 21:04:27 GMT
We get that notice every year. We haven't purchased it because we live in a one-story house, and though we live between two faults I'm not too worried.
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Post by keithurbanlovinpea on Jun 16, 2023 21:08:08 GMT
In hurricane zones, you have to buy windstorm insurance separate from your hazard coverage because your regular hazard will not cover a major wind event like a hurricane.
I will say, having been in the mortgage industry for 20+ years, hardly anyone has earthquake insurance and no investor adds it because it is stupid expensive and covers almost nothing. If you have money for the premiums and the deductible, you are better off saving it and earning interest, then use those funds to rebuild if you are ever impacted
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Post by caangel on Jun 16, 2023 21:20:14 GMT
I will say, having been in the mortgage industry for 20+ years, hardly anyone has earthquake insurance and no investor adds it because it is stupid expensive and covers almost nothing. If you have money for the premiums and the deductible, you are better off saving it and earning interest, then use those funds to rebuild if you are ever impacted We live in So Cal and this is how we approach earthquake insurance. My husband is a residential structural engineer.
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Post by Linda on Jun 16, 2023 21:31:37 GMT
Do people in hurricane or tornado areas have to have special insurance riders like this? hurricane damage (wind) is a separate rider on our home insurance (FL)
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Post by anniefb on Jun 16, 2023 21:47:06 GMT
In New Zealand we have a government entity called the Earthquake Commission (EQC) which provides natural disaster insurance for residential homes and land. There is a levy on private insurance policies to collect contributions to the scheme and anyone who has a private insurance policy for their home that includes fire insurance will have automatic natural disaster insurance that will cover damage from earthquakes, landslips and volcanic eruptions among other natural disasters.
The maximum cover though EQC for damage to a residential building and land is now NZ$300,000 + GST for each event and the costs of repair/rebuilding above that cap will be covered by your private insurer.
The scheme was originally set up in 1945 to provide affordable natural disaster insurance to help communities recover from natural disasters following a number of earthquakes and is still going. We've had a lot of major events in the last few years including the Christchurch earthquakes, significant floods etc so the cover provided by EQC is really vital.
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Post by garcia5050 on Jun 16, 2023 22:07:00 GMT
I do live in Southern California. But no, I do no have Earthquake insurance. The deductible is super high (I think $10K). We have enough to rebuild, if needed (though it would take a chunk of our retirement funds).
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Post by katlady on Jun 16, 2023 22:10:42 GMT
We had earthquake insurance, many years ago when it was first offered by the State. We don’t have it anymore. Just not worth it since you have to have major significance damage to get any money.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jun 16, 2023 22:10:56 GMT
We never had it when we lived in CA, the coverage was just too expensive for what it covered.
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Post by AussieMeg on Jun 16, 2023 22:16:34 GMT
anniefb , New Zealand for the win, once again!
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Post by allison1954 on Jun 16, 2023 22:34:36 GMT
Do people in hurricane or tornado areas have to have special insurance riders like this? hurricane damage (wind) is a separate rider on our home insurance (FL) And flood insurance is separate yet
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Post by librarylady on Jun 16, 2023 22:36:39 GMT
The problem with hurricane insurance is that the coverage is for the wind damage. Then, most often the homeowner has to prove the damage was not caused by rising water and the rising water is only covered by flood insurance.
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Post by 950nancy on Jun 16, 2023 22:39:38 GMT
We have a lot of hail. Our insurance are very high because of this. We also have fire insurance with our regular home insurance. We definitely don't have flood or earthquake insurance.
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Post by Gem Girl on Jun 16, 2023 22:46:50 GMT
I'm raising a skeptical brow at your insurance company. It sounds like an offer to sell you something disguised as a "we can't cover you without it" letter, shrouded in "legal-toned imperative." Is the NOTICE legally required, or is the COVERAGE? Maybe the wording isn't clear to me, but I'm giving them the stink eye.
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Post by iowgirl on Jun 16, 2023 22:54:30 GMT
Do people in hurricane or tornado areas have to have special insurance riders like this? Tornado area, and have had damages from a couple, and also some straight line wind that took out an entire building. State Farms response was to pay the claim and drop us.
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Post by bethany102399 on Jun 16, 2023 23:11:08 GMT
Like iowagirl I'm in tornado country and we pay twice as much for our insurance as my ILs did when they owned their home in Atlanta. When I asked why the kindly insurance agent (USAA) told me the likely hood of them having to replace our roof due to wind damage was a lot higher for us than for them. She was not wrong.
So while we don't have "tornado insurance" we pay more than those who don't live in areas where they're likely to happen.
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Post by caangel on Jun 16, 2023 23:15:15 GMT
I'm raising a skeptical brow at your insurance company. It sounds like an offer to sell you something disguised as a "we can't cover you without it" letter, shrouded in "legal-toned imperative." Is the NOTICE legally required, or is the COVERAGE? Maybe the wording isn't clear to me, but I'm giving them the stink eye. I believe they are required to give annual notice to those who do not have earthquake coverage in prone areas. I get them every year.
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Post by ntsf on Jun 16, 2023 23:28:10 GMT
we have had earthquake insurance for years. in our scheme of things, it is not such a high cost when you think of a. major asset being destroyed. for years, our house was our one big owned thing.. so it has been worth the peace of mind. if you buy it, you can buy different levels of coverage such as living expenses, etc.
I can see an earthquake fault from my house.
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Post by femalebusiness on Jun 17, 2023 14:36:36 GMT
I am in So Cal and I do not have earthquake insurance. I don't worry about it because I am in a one story wood frame house. If it all came down I could afford to rebuild.
The only person that I know who has earthquake insurance is an old client of mine. She added it to her home insurance way back in the 1960s and she is grandfathered in and it only costs her about $100 a year. This was many years ago when she told me that she would never let it lapse because they weren't allowed to raise it to today's rates.
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Post by chaosisapony on Jun 17, 2023 20:20:58 GMT
It came as part of my homeowner's policy but it's laughable. I think it's a $25,000 deductible and doesn't really cover anything. I don't live in an area which really experiences earthquakes so it's nothing I'm worried about. My house is much more likely to burn down which is why everyone that lives in my area struggles to find insurance.
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Post by Clair on Jun 17, 2023 20:33:51 GMT
we have had earthquake insurance for years. in our scheme of things, it is not such a high cost when you think of a. major asset being destroyed. for years, our house was our one big owned thing.. so it has been worth the peace of mind. if you buy it, you can buy different levels of coverage such as living expenses, etc. I can see an earthquake fault from my house. This. I’m in SoCal and have never had earthquake insurance but was recently advised to get it for this reason. I’m starting the process of finding coverage now.
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Post by lucyg on Jun 17, 2023 22:09:06 GMT
I need to call USAA about my earthquake coverage. I do carry it, because we’re right by the Hayward fault here, although we’re on pretty solid ground, too. BUT I’m not paying that much for it. So I’m concerned about the coverage. Your offer sounds like a nightmare. I thought I had much better coverage than that, but admittedly, I don’t pay much attention to notices, updates, etc.
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Post by lucyg on Jun 17, 2023 22:12:24 GMT
I'm raising a skeptical brow at your insurance company. It sounds like an offer to sell you something disguised as a "we can't cover you without it" letter, shrouded in "legal-toned imperative." Is the NOTICE legally required, or is the COVERAGE? Maybe the wording isn't clear to me, but I'm giving them the stink eye. No. The coverage isn’t required, but the notice is. Because really, anyone on a major fault line ought to carry the insurance.
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Post by cecilia on Jun 17, 2023 22:24:46 GMT
I don't know if we do or not.
We sometimes get rain/wind from hurricanes but aren't a direct hit. There was one hurricane in 2004 that dumped a ton of water on us. Same in 2010.
Forgot which one that headed our way in 2020 but we had hurricane warnings, etc in Arkansas. It was expected to get so bad schools closed.
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Post by gorgeouskid on Jun 18, 2023 2:10:10 GMT
We do have it. It is relatively expensive and will not absolutely rebuild should the catastrophic happen.
I'm reading the comments with interest, as it's always been presented as required.
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Post by pinklady on Jun 18, 2023 15:33:15 GMT
I live in So Cal and I do not have earthquake insurance. It’s too expensive and it won’t rebuild my house anyways. I’m just not that concerned that an earthquake is going to level my house.
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Post by scrappinmama on Jun 18, 2023 19:38:43 GMT
We moved from California to Kansas. Our insurance premium is still pretty high here, I'm assuming because of the amount of storms we get out here. We did not have earthquake insurance in California. I have had to file one claim in our Kansas home for hail damage on our roof. That year almost every house on the block got brand new roofs because we all had enough hail damage to meet the requirement for insurance to cover the expense. I think it was something like, if 80% of your roof has hail damage, the insurance has to cover it.
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Post by fotos4u2 on Jun 19, 2023 15:23:38 GMT
California here and we no longer have it. Financially it doesn't make sense. My mom lived a few miles from the Northridge quake and it took years to get their insurance to fix anything because she had to fight them every step. We live farther from any fault lines and it's unlikely our home would be raised so it makes more sense to save the money (we had it for a few years after the earthquake and it was almost $3000/per year, if we'd kept it that would have been over $65,000 in premiums and that's IF they didn't raise the rates which wasn't likely).
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Post by papersilly on Jun 19, 2023 17:09:17 GMT
we were living very close to the 1994 Northridge earthquake epicenter. fortunately we had earthquake insurance at the time. the policy was enough to cover the damage to the interior and exterior of the house and the personal property lost/damaged. shortly after that, we moved and it was difficult finding coverage as many insurance companies either stopped providing coverage or raised their rates sky high. i'm thankful we haven't had a quake as large as the 1994 quake near our current house. we would be out of a lot of money if we suffered the same damages today.
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