quiltz
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Post by quiltz on Jun 27, 2023 1:00:49 GMT
Mu comment is from the perspective of my cousins as my aunt & uncle were older parents.
They were really angry after the deaths of their parents as their own children never had grandparents that could truly play with them and also help out. Their parents were too old or too sick. It was hard for them to raise their own young family and looking after elderly parents at the same time.
Yes, there were many supports in place but nothing can truly replace grandparents. These cousins also had their grandmother live with them growing up so they knew about a great relationship with a grandparent.
I would proceed with caution. Good luck as it seems like your mind is made up, mostly, sorta.
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Gennifer
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Post by Gennifer on Jun 27, 2023 1:05:19 GMT
Oh, that’s a whole big “fuck no!” for me. I’m 45, and my kids range from 22-15. I think 35 would be the latest I would personally have done it, but my husband had a vasectomy during my last pregnancy to ensure that didn’t happen.
I’ll be happy to be a grandparent in another 8-10 years, though… I’ve told my kids they shouldn’t consider it before 27, at least!
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Post by Delta Dawn on Jun 27, 2023 1:17:35 GMT
I asked Dad who is 81. He said there are a lot of positives for sure but nota slam dunk.
My grandparents from dad died when I was 3mos old and my mother’s parents lived very far away. Sister and I grew up mostly without them. My son grew up in a house with grandparents. The others lived far away. Also my son is biracial.
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jediannie
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Post by jediannie on Jun 27, 2023 1:22:03 GMT
I had a baby at 44 and I don't think I could deal with the newborn stage at my current age (52). We've been considering fostering older kids because babies are lovely but oh so tiring. Not that my kid is easy in the slightest but she's easier than a baby in the fact she can tell me what's wrong. My cousin fosters babies and she's 70 so I think it really depends on the person. Every situation is so unique.
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Post by mom on Jun 27, 2023 1:42:52 GMT
Al Pacino just had a baby at 87 and Robert Di Niro just had one at 79. So your age seems relatively young to be a new mom again! 😂
That said, no way in hell would I want a newborn (or any kid under the age of 18) again. Life is too much fun at the stage I’m in (young enough to go and old enough that my kids are on their own).
But if you have the desire and ability I say for for it!
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Post by mom on Jun 27, 2023 1:43:36 GMT
Oh, that’s a whole big “fuck no!” for me. I’m 45, and my kids range from 22-15. I think 35 would be the latest I would personally have done it, but my husband had a vasectomy during my last pregnancy to ensure that didn’t happen. I’ll be happy to be a grandparent in another 8-10 years, though… I’ve told my kids they shouldn’t consider it before 27, at least! Same. Same. Same.
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Post by scrapmaven on Jun 27, 2023 2:18:26 GMT
No one can answer this for you. You have to decide what is best for both you and the child. I am being morbid, but I feel for anyone in their 20s who loses a parent or has to take care of an aging parent. I know that people can pass at any age, but that was the first thought I had. I was wondering if you want to adopt an older child who needs loving parents and a sibling? Could you find a child about the same age as your child? They would have a playmate and a best friend growing up.
If this is something that you truly want to do and you are ready to forgo retirement for a long time then make the most of it. A dear friend raised her grandson and they finally became empty nesters in their late 70s. She saved up all of that fun and at almost 90 they're going strong, traveling and enjoying life.
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Post by Zee on Jun 27, 2023 2:45:50 GMT
I can't answer for you, and you already have a 6 year old, but absolutely NOTHING sounds good about parenting small children at this age. I've already done that and this time is for me.
I wouldn't even mind the newborn stuff as much as having to do teen and young adults again...nope.
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Post by sillyrabbit on Jun 27, 2023 3:07:30 GMT
I don't think age is a determining factor if you don't want it to be. I know lots of happy children being raised by grandparents. It comes down to if you and your DH feel the desire to raise another child. Only you two and your hearts know the answer to that. Best of luck!
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milocat
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Post by milocat on Jun 27, 2023 3:12:47 GMT
No thank you. My kids were adults when I was 44. I look forward to grandkids one day. I'd like to be around for my kids and for them to enjoy their grandparents. Health can also turn quickly, yes it can at any age but seems more likely the older you get. I wouldn't want to have a young child to take care of.
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Jun 27, 2023 3:21:22 GMT
I think giving your child a sibling is one of the best things you can do, especially if you’re older parents. IMO this is not a valid reason to have another child. There is no guarantee the children would actually even like each other or get along. I know way too many people (both family and friends) with estranged relationships with siblings. Have a child because you want one, not to give an existing child a sibling.
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Post by gar on Jun 27, 2023 8:11:50 GMT
I wouldn't no but that's not to say you shouldn't.
But do be aware that having a 6 year old and a new baby is, in itself, harder work because their needs, demands and wishes are very different and you are constantly pulled in very different directions.
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Post by lainey on Jun 27, 2023 8:19:39 GMT
Al Pacino just had a baby at 87 and Robert Di Niro just had one at 79. So your age seems relatively young to be a new mom again! 😂 That said, no way in hell would I want a newborn (or any kid under the age of 18) again. Life is too much fun at the stage I’m in (young enough to go and old enough that my kids are on their own). But if you have the desire and ability I say for for it! But what are the odds that either of them are actually doing any childcare? Also it wasn't their bodies growing and birthing a whole human. For me it would be a big fat no, every age has been a no to having children to me.
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Post by littlemama on Jun 27, 2023 10:09:19 GMT
One other thing, please dont do this thinking your children are going to be best friends. That is not the reality in many, many cases and is a lot of pressure to put on any siblings who are different people with different personalities
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iluvpink
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Post by iluvpink on Jun 27, 2023 11:24:01 GMT
Also 51 and definitely not for me. But I couldn't have done it ten years ago either. But that was due to our dd having many health issues and years and years of being up at night many times. So I was past exhausted then and I'm speaking from that experience. However either way I think past 35 ish would have been too much for me. And dh would agree and probably go younger than that. But we are enjoying being this age and while still dealing with our dd and her issues, having more time to travel and do things etc.
If you feel you have the energy, means and backup support if something were to happen to one or both of you, then go for it.
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Post by trixiecat on Jun 27, 2023 11:36:23 GMT
If you decide against this, are you going to look back and regret this the rest of your life? Only you and your husband can make this decision. I will say I think if you have a good support system around you...family and friends...that would make the decision easier.
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Post by hop2 on Jun 27, 2023 12:11:25 GMT
Children are a lifetime commitment.
If there are any doubts that you can make that lifetime commitment, then the answer should probably be no. It’s not like you can back out on them later.
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wellway
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Post by wellway on Jun 27, 2023 12:50:01 GMT
For me, it would be a no. I was an older mum too.
Questions I would consider, have you been through the menopause? It can do a real number on some women.
On this board we have seen peas who have had to deal with a variety of issues concerning their teenage and young adult children. How would you be set up to deal with such issues and concerns in your seventies and possibly beyond?
At the end of the day, only you and your husband can answer the question. I hope whatever decision you make works out well.
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Post by Linda on Jun 27, 2023 13:09:56 GMT
I had older parents - my dad was nearing 50 when my younger sister was born. I don't think either of us felt that we missed out by having older parents as children. That said - Dad passed in his his early 60s when we were still teens and we lost our remaining grandparent 18m later. But life isn't guaranteed to any of us and how often do we hear of younger parents dying from illness or car accidents etc... I'm grateful for the time I had with my dad and while I wish we could have had longer...I don't think it was bad decision for him to startover on the later side (I have a sister who is 20 yrs older than me).
I'm almost 53 and dealt with infertility for a long time. My kids are 31, 22, and 16. We stopped actively trying in my mid-40s but never prevented and I would have welcomed a pregnancy. I'm 11 days away from calling myself menopausal and at this point in life, I wouldn't be seeking out adoption opportunities but I think if one fell in my lap, I would have a hard time saying no and would probably end up a yes.
There are definite cons of older parent-hood but I think (esp. given the number of grand parents and even great grandparents who are raising children/teens) they aren't insurmontable. Make sure you have good insurance, a plan for retirement (don't college fund at that expense), and a good plan for guardianship in the event it's needed.
Good luck and prayers for discernment and for peace with the decision
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jun 27, 2023 13:18:49 GMT
I think giving your child a sibling is one of the best things you can do, especially if you’re older parents. IMO this is not a valid reason to have another child. There is no guarantee the children would actually even like each other or get along. I know way too many people (both family and friends) with estranged relationships with siblings. Have a child because you want one, not to give an existing child a sibling. This is my feeling too. Between my DH and I we have seven living biological siblings and all but one of them live locally (within about a two hour drive). I can count on one hand the number of times we have seen any of them over the last year. For many reasons, we’re just not BFFs.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jun 27, 2023 13:31:17 GMT
I think I'm not qualified to give an opinion. I had my children when I was 24 and 26, so relatively young. My oldest is 23 and I'll be 48 in a couple of weeks. I have been through hell and back with my teens and young adults so the idea of having another child would be traumatic for me. But I think I have PTSD from the past 8 years and I know I could never do it again. I still have a 13 year old stepdaughter who hasn't been through these years yet and I know for a fact that if she goes through some traumas, I am most likely going to have to take a step back because I can't handle this again. However, I am also a bit confused and off balance by the sudden absence of this trauma too. The peace is unsettling for me, even though I don't seek to go back to it. I just don't think at all, though, I would have been able to withstand all of this in my 70s. So for me, I can't do it.
It has been my observation, though, seeing other family members become parents at much older ages that they have a completely different attitude than I do. They waited for their kids, they had years of fun beforehand, they seem to be in more stable marriages than I was and they tend to have more money = more resources to parent their kids than those of us who did it younger. My energy, stamina, and enthusiasm seems to be a trade off for these bonuses to having children later. I think if you are going to listen to any of us, it should probably be the people who did have children later in life because for us who did it early, we finally feel like we have come out the other side and most of us don't want to redo it again.
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anaterra
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Post by anaterra on Jun 27, 2023 13:58:00 GMT
We are at the age where several of our friends are becoming guardians of their grandchildren... I would hope that it never comes to that for us.. but never say never... I do know that should something ever happen to dd.... 1 of her sons would go with his dad and 1 would come either to us or my ex and his wife... younger dgs doesnt have a dad in his life...
and if something were to happen to ds and ddil... dh and i would get all 3 of theirs.. it is not something we want.. but we would do it if we had to.. and we would be great at it... we are late 40 and mid 50....
I see my friends taking on gks... with different outcomes and of course these gks are all still elementary age... i am not sure how they will handle the teenage and early adult years...
I think if you are called and it is in your heart... there is never anything wrong with giving a child a home.. it really is something only you and ur dh can know.... would I do it for a child I have no ties too? probably not... a grandchild of ours.. without a second thought
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Post by hopechest on Jun 27, 2023 14:19:00 GMT
Thank you all for your input. We do have a contingency plan in place for custody as well as a contingency to the contingency. We have ample life insurance and have planned for college and retirement. My husband is wanting to give our kiddo a sibling, but my attitude is more like some of you mentioned. We need to do this because it's what we and our family wants. There is no guarantee they'll even like each other. My kiddo is begging for a brother or sister (basically a playmate at this age) and I know he has no idea what that would actually mean. I think he would love it, but who knows really. Now we wait and see. If I've learned anything from years of fertility treatments and going through one adoption already is it will always work out the way it is supposed to. The child or children you are meant to have will find their way to you. <3
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Post by 950nancy on Jun 27, 2023 15:22:12 GMT
I had my first at 28 and my good friend hers at 43. She'd never been through it at 28, so she didn't have the thoughts of I'm too old for this. She thought she was going to be a mom and being a mom is hard work no matter what age. If you haven't been through it, everything about motherhood is new and exciting and special. Now you've been through it, but not so very long ago.
I work with kids who have been through trauma. One of the girls asked me the other day how old I was. I told her 58. She said, "That explains a lot." Our lead person is 23 and can be moody and exhausted from where she is in life right now. The young girl just said that I am really easy to be with and calm. I think having my wisdom that I have right now would make me a better mom than I was when I was 28. However, whatever age you chose to be a mom, it will be great. Benefits and drawbacks for all ages.
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Post by 950nancy on Jun 27, 2023 15:29:11 GMT
Mu comment is from the perspective of my cousins as my aunt & uncle were older parents. They were really angry after the deaths of their parents as their own children never had grandparents that could truly play with them and also help out. Their parents were too old or too sick. It was hard for them to raise their own young family and looking after elderly parents at the same time. Yes, there were many supports in place but nothing can truly replace grandparents. These cousins also had their grandmother live with them growing up so they knew about a great relationship with a grandparent.I would proceed with caution. Good luck as it seems like your mind is made up, mostly, sorta. My grandma passed at 63 and she was the only one I knew. I would never say not to have a kid because of grandparents. My kids had one gma and she never watched them a minute of their lives. My dad didn't either. We never had family (aunts/uncles) watch our kids when they were growing up. There were other people who were involved with my kids. My kids are 27 and 29 and are around almost every weekend. One lives in another city. I think not having other people to watch or parent your kid really makes the immediate family form a strong bond. Of course that is just my experience, but I wouldn't base an adoption on that.
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Post by lucyg on Jun 27, 2023 18:56:06 GMT
Haven’t read the other responses yet.
I raised my grandson for ten years, from the age of 3.5 till 13.5, when I was 59-69, with some help from my son (his dad) but I did most of the parenting. Last fall he moved in with his dad, stepmom and stepbrothers in a nearby town. He was happy here and he’s happy there.
I loved having him and I wasn’t too old to be parenting. Maybe too old to be parenting nearly alone (I’m not sporty/outdoorsy so depended on his dad and uncle for much of that stuff), but overall I was grateful to have him.
You can do it.
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Post by littlemama on Jun 27, 2023 19:30:41 GMT
I think giving your child a sibling is one of the best things you can do, especially if you’re older parents. IMO this is not a valid reason to have another child. There is no guarantee the children would actually even like each other or get along. I know way too many people (both family and friends) with estranged relationships with siblings. Have a child because you want one, not to give an existing child a sibling. Absolutely not a valid reason.
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iowgirl
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Post by iowgirl on Jun 27, 2023 19:45:41 GMT
Here is my perspective from having older parents. My Mom was 45 and my dad was 50 when I was born (to them, late in life baby).
My siblings were all older, closest was 10 years older, with other siblings quite a bit older. In many respects, it was just me growing up, as for about as long as I could remember my siblings had flown the nest. My parents had more time and money with me - so I got to do a lot of fun things. I never felt like I missed out on anything, since my Dad took me with him a lot and we played ball and went skiing, etc.
I also feel (oh heck, I know!) that my parents were way more lenient with me, as far as discipline. Maybe they were just tired, but I had far less rules to follow.
Down side; My dad died when I was 22. My Mom lived longer, but she really aged after my Dad died. Their health was really good right up until my Dad was diagnosed with cancer, and passed shortly after. The brunt of dealing with that went to my older siblings, but if it had just been me, dealing with that at 22 would have rocked my world. My parents were often mistaken for my grandparents. I found that mortifyingly embarrassing. I had friends who's parents were my siblings age. My cousins my age, were actually my first cousins once removed, since their parents were actually my cousins. It wasn't the end of the world, but it felt strange at times (when I was a dorky teen).
That really doesn't give you an answer, but I feel like only you could know how it will work for you.
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Post by pancakes on Jun 27, 2023 19:52:42 GMT
Mu comment is from the perspective of my cousins as my aunt & uncle were older parents. They were really angry after the deaths of their parents as their own children never had grandparents that could truly play with them and also help out. Their parents were too old or too sick. It was hard for them to raise their own young family and looking after elderly parents at the same time. Yes, there were many supports in place but nothing can truly replace grandparents. These cousins also had their grandmother live with them growing up so they knew about a great relationship with a grandparent. I would proceed with caution. Good luck as it seems like your mind is made up, mostly, sorta. I understand where you’re coming from, but my caution to the OP is that I personally wouldn’t put a lot of weight on this. As a first generation American, my grandparents were overseas, and I can count on one hand how many times I saw them. Additionally many families have grandparents that are at least a plane flight away and don’t have their help in raising a family. It’s actually pretty common these days, especially among millennials who are having kids.
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Post by wezee on Jun 27, 2023 19:57:45 GMT
Here is my take. My parents were in their 40’s when they had me. I was 35 when my dad died and 38 when my mom passed. I’m 64 now. I’m really envious of people who had younger parents. My brother was 17 going off to college when I was born . My mom became limited in doing activities because of arthritis in her mid 50’s. I would have loved to be able to see her in her youth. The stories my cousins can tell! “Hey remember when we all lived on Tobacco Road” remember that infamous fishing trip when Jay jay fell off the boat? Remember how we fought over who would get to eat the most of Grandmas’s raviolis? Cuz,how come you don't remember? Well that as 20 years before I was born. It’s weird to think my whole family had a “life” before me. I have a brother but no shared sibling childhood.
If I live to an average life of 76 (USA). They will be gone for half of my life. Didn’t see our kids graduate from college, get married & have kids. So many times I wished I could seek their advice, tell them highlights of my life. I still do those things but it’s to a marble headstone.
Don’t get me wrong I had a very loving childhood! Lonely but very much loved.
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