RosieKat
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Post by RosieKat on Jun 27, 2023 15:21:00 GMT
Argh, my family is trying to kill me! I finally have some time again to do things like really menu plan, and it has finally dawned on me that my family must have gotten together to make it impossible for me to feed them all. To be fair, they've all learned not to complain, they just eat it or don't and go get some cereal or something - but it would be nice to feed them all!
DH - doesn't want many carbs. Has a few specific dislikes, but will at least generally eat it all. DD - pretty much only wants carbs. Doesn't care for most seafood (except fried shrimp), doesn't like a lot of meat. Isn't a fan of most cooked veggies. DS - pretty much only wants meat or complete junk food. Won't eat anything casserole or mixed (I think legit texture issues). Will eat most pasta but not anything mixed in (so say, penne with mushrooms, he'll pick out the noodles only, won't even eat the mushrooms separately).
About the only thing they all will eat 100% happily is beans and rice, and there's only so much of that a girl can take! (Oh, also fried shrimp, but I'm not even on the coast so that's not really realistic or budget friendly.)
Again, they don't complain except very rarely. They won't suggest meals when asked, so that's a nonstarter. Any good ideas, either policy wise or specific recipe wise?
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Post by Lurkingpea on Jun 27, 2023 15:26:50 GMT
Can you make ingredients separately and let everyone pick what they want? Like fajitas. Have neat in one bowl. Veg in another. Tortillas are optional. Pasta same thing. Pasta in one bowl everyone adds it doesn't add sauce. Meat in separate bowl. It is more work for you, but if your true goal is to feed everyone it might be an aption.
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Post by craftymom101 on Jun 27, 2023 15:27:37 GMT
I make what I like, mildly taking into consideration what my fiancé and kids like, and they can eat 2/3 of the offerings and be eligible for a snack/dessert or eat less and that's it for the night (no snacks/dessert). We have four kids, ages 11-17, with varying degrees of picky eating and I refuse to be a short order cook. I also refuse to spend an hour+ in the kitchen, have my kids eat hardly anything, then want ice cream/chips/cookies/crackers an hour later. I serve well balanced, nutritious meals and I expect everyone to eat at dinner time. Our two girls are significantly pickier than the boys, but they have learned that extreme pickiness will not be tolerated, and they will try new foods. The one consideration I make is I don't cook anything too spicy. The adults love spicy food, but the kids don't.
ETA: One of the fundamental issues I have with kids (my own and others) is that they believe every meal should be their favorite food(s). If it's not their favorite food(s), they won't/don't want to eat it. We have had a LOT of conversations in our house about proper nutrition, moderation (after our daughter ate 2/3 of a Publix red velvet cake in one sitting...), and consuming food to fuel our bodies, not limiting our diet to pizza or burgers because that is our favorite food.
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Post by bethany102399 on Jun 27, 2023 15:43:14 GMT
I grew up a picky eater in a house where you eat what's served and no snacking allowed. As a result, I went hungry a lot.
A couple of things that work for us: Everyone gets a night, one night per week is a meal DH favors, one night it's DD another it's me. When someone complains my response is this is a dad night, your night is tomorrow.
I've got 2 kids who have legit texture issues so very little casseroles here. I try things like a dish served on a carb base where you can scrape the protein off and not eat the base. Always a veggie side for DD who doesn't care for proteins. One kid who hates cheese, one mom who loves cheese so cheese on part of the dish.
I also agree with the build your own idea. If I have to cook it separately, then you can assemble what you want before we sit down to eat. I don't feel like i'm being a short order cook by doing this, but my mom disagreed. As the person who often went hungry I tend to do a bit more to get people to eat.
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Post by littlemama on Jun 27, 2023 15:43:46 GMT
Just make regular meals. If they dont like it, they will figure out something else. If those meals include things they like, they can eat those pieces. The only rule I had was that you have to try 3 bites of everything
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Jun 27, 2023 15:54:45 GMT
Picky eater here. You prepare a meal and if they don't like it, they are welcome to find something else in the kitchen and make it themselves. (The key being you don't do it, they have to be in charge of their pickiness.). Your children are old enough to do that aren't they? Anything less than that and you are setting yourself up to be a short order cook. I would have healthy snack options available (fruit, raw veggies) that they can always help themselves to as well.
Another option is having each child help plan the menu/prepare it one night a week.
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Post by ~summer~ on Jun 27, 2023 16:07:05 GMT
I would just make regular, healthy, fairly low carb meals that I liked. If a person wanted more carbs they can always cook themselves some rice or pasta to add to meal.
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Post by iowgirl on Jun 27, 2023 16:19:55 GMT
I was a fairly picky eater, but loved what my Mom cooked. She wasn't much into casseroles, so I think that contributes to my not loving the so much.
When I make spaghetti, I never add the sauce to the pasta. Mix on your own plate if you want. Same for salads with dressing - dress on your plate.
I was lucky that my kids were never to picky with my food, but each one had a couple things they didn't care for, and I worked around it.
One thing that helped, was that I involved them in the planning, shopping, and preparation from a very early age. They seemed more willing to eat things they had actively participated in making.
They are fantastic cooks now and very adventurous eaters. Their friends always ask them how they know how to cook - it was just everyday life here. Same way they can all weld and set fence posts! lol
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Post by gar on Jun 27, 2023 16:29:34 GMT
Making a meal you like then letting them eat it or not sounds like a lot of wasted food. I think your best option is to cook items separately knowing you need only do meat for 2, veg for 3 etc. then let them take what they want.
Not fun though!
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Post by Laurie on Jun 27, 2023 17:01:03 GMT
DH is the only non picky eater in our house. All of our meals are "plain" so it is something that everyone will eat but not necessarily like. DH prefers meals where there is a base meal and then he can add what he wants. For example, chili. The girls and I like only the tomato sauce and meat so he puts some of that in another pot and makes it for him with all that yucky garbage like beans. Same with when we make KFC bowls. Youngest dd doesn't want the food touching so she just puts the chicken, mashed potatoes and corn on a plate. We also do like a pp and we each have our own night to pick a meal.
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Post by roundtwo on Jun 27, 2023 17:19:33 GMT
I had a family that had similiar likes and dislikes to yours, including one who did not like food touching. I pretty much just made the basic meat/starch/veggie meal with a salad and let everyone fill their plate with what they liked best. One night would be honey mustard chicken, rice and carrots, another would be meatloaf, mashed potatoes and green beans and maybe pork tenderloin, spaetzle and broccoli the next night. Nothing particularly fancy but everyone seemed to find enough to keep them full.
The one thing they all agreed on was homemade mac and cheese with cooked ham - there was never leftovers on those nights.
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Post by Linda on Jun 27, 2023 17:32:06 GMT
2/3 of my kids are picky eaters (although I'm only feeding one of them atm) and DH has both gotten pickier with age AND has diabetes. I also have diabetes.
I had my kids cook once/week starting at 10-12 - they choose the menu and the recipes and prepare it - I was available to guide and demonstrate. Sometimes they've cooked something they didn't end up liking, sometimes they've cooked something I didn't end up liking but we've added some new recipes to the meal rota over the years of doing this (my oldest is 31, my last at home is 16)
I serve multiple vegetables with a meal and one must choose and eat at least one. There's always at least one cooked and one raw option - one of my picky eaters doesn't like cooked, the other doesn't like raw. There's always fruit as well and I buy those individual packs of fruit and applesauce which are available if you don't like the offered fruit
If you don't eat the protein - then go grab some cheese or hummus or peanut butter or yoghurt because no protein = hangry
I generally only make meals that at least 2 people like (I'm cooking for 3 atm) and I try (don't always succeed) in planning not to have two dinners disliked by the same person in a row - that does make planned leftovers a little more challenging though and she who doesn't like turkey is out of luck 4 times a year (I roast a turkey quarterly) because we'll eat it as leftovers and then cooked into something - I do freeze some each time so it's no more than 3 days in row.
we also do build your own meals - tacos, burritos, salads, baked potatoes - so everyone can pick what they are willing to add. I also often (weeklyish) do a meal of either bread, cheese, fruit/veg or a sandwich based meal.
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Post by Linda on Jun 27, 2023 17:37:03 GMT
oh and I allow each person to have up to three items that are off-limits (that I would otherwise cook with)
DH - beets, organ meats, refried beans
DD1 -spinach, tuna (she has actually learnt to eat raw spinach over the years but cooked is still a no)
DD2 - can't seem to limit to 3 so nothing is actually offlimits
I don't cook those items when I'm cooking for them - DH and I like tuna so we eat it when it's just us eating for instance. I'm the only one who likes beets - I buy occasionally to roast but roast other veggies also ( and keep the beets separate) and expect to eat ALL the beets myself.
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Post by ameslou on Jun 27, 2023 17:53:58 GMT
With that many distinct preferences, I think you'd be well served to reframe what pleasing your family looks like. To use a grade analogy, I'd say that shooting for 75% satisfaction is an A, not a C. My family is picky but not to that degree!
When I'm really on my planning game, I think about meals as an average across the whole week. In that time, I want everyone to have the following items at least some nights (but not necessarily all nights:
*Protein *Fiber from a whole food source *Something green (which might also be a fiber from a whole food source) *Starch of some sort (which *might* also be a fiber)
I do try to plan meals so that there is something that everyone will eat (not necessarily love) - that might mean pleasing a meat eater for the protein piece, but offering several fruits for a carb lover. Another night it might be a carb heavy meal with the "planned over" (not leftover) meat entree for the meat lover. Another popular item here is burrito bowls (similar to fajitas) - when I have seasoned ground beef, seasoned rice, a can of pinto beans, along with shredded lettuce, avocado and tomato, there is something for everyone.
Also - does your family help with cleanup? I sure hope so - that's a lot of dishes!!
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Post by workingclassdog on Jun 27, 2023 18:19:46 GMT
I'm not a short order cook at home... I make what I make and they can figure it out. There is no way I'm making a meal to make 3 people happy. They can have a bowl of cereal or make their own.
And FYI I am the picky eater of the family and I can just make anything work.
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Post by myshelly on Jun 27, 2023 18:24:07 GMT
My rule is if you express ideas and requests for the grocery list and meals, then I will honor those ideas and requests.
If I ask your opinion and you don’t have one, you can eat what I cook or go hungry.
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Post by hop2 on Jun 27, 2023 19:12:46 GMT
I’m sorry you’re dealing with these meal time issues.
Are your children old enough to plan, shop & cook? My mother made my sisters & I do that when I was 12 and I made my kids do it too. As a kid, you learn a lot about what goes into providing a meal for a family that way. As a parent you learn about what your kids are interested in eating. My mother had given us each a week every month, I did smaller increments to fit into my kids activities and did it mostly in summer or other school breaks. If nothing else it gives you a small mental break from choosing the meals because even if they need help preparing the what to cook was already chosen.
I never mixed sauce into pasta I made a pot of pasta & a pot of sauce ( even if I used sauce from a jar I added stuff to it ) so everyone could have however much they want.
My non meat eater liked meat more when I got it from a butcher, and it ended up being a similar cost over all with less waste. Supermarket meat just wasn’t as good.
My favorite cheat meal is egg roll insides the original recipe I had ( and lost ) was from a pea but there’s recipes all over the internet I just do 1lb ground chicken and 2 packages coleslaw mix & some fresh ginger and a sauce
I hope you can find some solutions to your meal time stress. It’s a mental load for sure
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Jun 27, 2023 20:23:09 GMT
I am an extremely picker eater, so I believe everyone should eat whatever they want. Whomever is doing the cooking make one meal. If someone doesn't like what is made, they are free to make or get their own food.
I am single, so I am the only one eating. If I had others in my home, my only expectation would be everyone eat together at the table(doesn't matter if it's different food).....because I believe table time encourages conversation and I like around the table camaraderie.
When I used to cook for others, I made my plain and added spices and/or condiments to some of the food. Everyone was free to enhance or doctor up their food as they want to. For instance: If I was making chicken breasts or pork chops, I'd leave mine plain and add sauce or spices to some of them. I'd also make two vegetables (one I like and one I didn't). If I was making roast, I'd cut it before cooking 1/3(mine...well done) and 2/3(his....medium-rare).
Any leftovers could be eaten, for next day lunch or dinner.
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Post by 950nancy on Jun 27, 2023 21:18:04 GMT
My son says the worst part of being an adult is anything to do with cooking/feeding for himself. He's amazing at smoking/grilling, but he does not enjoy the rest. Part of me wanted to do the told-you-so dance, but I refrained.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jun 27, 2023 21:45:08 GMT
What we did was got our kid more involved with the meal planning and prep. She isn’t truly picky as there aren’t a lot of things she really won’t touch, but there are nights when I know she won’t eat what I’m planning to make (tuna salad, chicken salad, egg salad, she’s not a big fan of mayonnaise or celery) and on those nights she’s free to have whatever else she wants to make. She’s at the age now where some nights we tell her it’s her turn to grill the burgers or make scrambled eggs or whatever and she does it.
Growing up I was the picky one and my mom was the queen of the casserole (a/k/a hot dish) and OMG I hated every one of the hundred variations of it that she would make. 🤮 Ours was the kind of family where you either ate it, sat there staring at it on your plate until bedtime or went hungry. There wasn’t an option to make anything else. I would have loved to be able to opt out and have a bowl of cold cereal instead!
I think the best answer is to give each kid a night to cook and let them make what they want on those days. They have to be responsible ahead of time to add things to the grocery list so they have what they need to prepare the meal they plan to make. Maybe to avoid total junk food night when the kids are cooking, give them guidelines they need to work within so it ends up being relatively healthy. Four kids plus you and DF is six nights, the last day is either leftover cleanup night, pizza night or whatever you decide to do.
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Post by bunnyhug on Jun 27, 2023 22:19:41 GMT
My mom (and now, as a result, me) always made sure that everything in a dish was in a fairly big-ish chunk so that it was easy to pick out the parts that someone didn't like. I also like to prep the ingredients and then let my family assemble their own 'thing' themselves--tacos, salads, rice bowls, stir fry, chili, pasta and sauce. Personally, I hate gravy and most casseroles, so I just don't make them! It used to take me ages to scrape all the gravy off of my meat when my mom used to make swiss steak in the crockpot . I pretty much always serve any sauce separately from the meat or pasta/rice. One thing that I've learned after being diagnosed with ADHD at 50 is that I'm not the only one who would pretty happily eat the same thing for dinner for days and days in a row if left to decide that myself--we tend to hyperfocus on things, including our "food of the moment"! As an eater, I was happier when I stopped trying to make something different every night for two or three months in a row--Taco Tuesday was made for ADHD-ers!
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Post by AussieMeg on Jun 27, 2023 22:38:35 GMT
Well, that's quite the pickle! You have two people who are complete opposites: no carbs / all carbs.
I tend to make food that I really like, and make a couple of substitutions for any others who don't like certain elements of the dish.
Chicken schnitzel with miso mushroom sauce - leave off the mushroom sauce and make DS's schnitzel a parmigiana. Leave the chicken breast uncrumbed for DD.
Sticky marinated salmon - use the same marinade on chicken for DSO.
Anything with coriander (cilantro) in it, I will put some aside for DD's partner without the coriander, then add the coriander for the rest of us.
If I'm doing a big roast lamb dinner with all the roast veggies, I will get a butterflied chicken to cook for DD and DS (how can they be my children when they don't like lamb?!)
Spaghetti bolognese or lasagne - a simple pesto pasta for DD who doesn't eat red meat.
DS doesn't like rice or mashed potato so I either leave that off his plate completely, or chuck some chips or potato gems (tater tots) in the air fryer. Or for a curry, leave the rice out and he can just have some roti or paratha (which we are also having).
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Post by getting started on Jun 27, 2023 22:39:37 GMT
I will make the meat, vegs etc and then present it different ways for the picky eaters. Like the meat+vegs+rice = rice bowl for the bread/carb lover but can be eaten as separate components if someone doesn't want their food touching. meat+vegs+tortilla/bread/bun = wrap or panini meat + vegs (or sauce filled with vegs) + pasta etc
Plus it helps to get some help with the food prep in order to really get buy in. So sometimes I just say to my teen that I need their help with dinner. Then when they help they will often offer a way to prep/cook/serve that I wouldn't have considered and now we have a new meal!
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johnnysmom
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Post by johnnysmom on Jun 27, 2023 22:43:37 GMT
Ugh dinner in my house is a mess
Dh is on a low-card/keto diet
Ds22 has one foot out the door and while he technically lives here still it’s a crapshoot if he’ll be here for dinner or not (and he’s terrible at keeping us posted). When he is here he’ll eat anything though, he’s not picky at all.
Ds12 has eaten noodles with butter for about 90% of his dinners over the last 10 years (that’s not an exaggeration).
I’ll eat many things but frankly I don’t enjoy heavy on the meat meals, I like casseroles, pasta, stir fry, etc.
With it being summer we’ve been grilling or smoking meats, I’ll have it as part of a salad or along side a baked potato or some frozen veggies. But it gets old.
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Post by AllieC on Jun 27, 2023 23:17:44 GMT
How old are your children? I have a colleague that was in this situation and they made a roster of each person in the house choosing and making a meal of their choice once a week. They had to decided in advance so that the items they needed could be added to the weekly grocery shop.
There were a few rules - no making the same thing every week and whoever cooked cleaned up. They did the "the cook doesn't clean" at first but found some were leaving such a mess that this way it worked better. Others in the house couldn't whinge about what was made, they ate it with grace and then it was their turn. After a little while the kids cooking became more adventurous and the meals on rotation were appreciated by all. Everyone was much happier after awhile and it meant my colleague didn't have the mental load of deciding what to have every night. The youngest was 8 when they started so they had a little help.
You could do a roster:
You DH DD DS Takeaway Get your own whatever The other night you might cook again.
The other thing it does is give your kids life skills of being able to cook themselves.
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RosieKat
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Post by RosieKat on Jun 28, 2023 15:10:21 GMT
Update/more info - There's a lot of great ideas here, most of which my family manage to evade. Everyone is old enough to cook or at least provide significant help, but what happens is DH is (truly) a terrible cook. DD is usually working during dinner prep time. DS would just give us all bowls of Fruit Loops. Also, I am a SAHM and I can't help it, I feel like it is My Job. No one complains about what is made, they just won't eat it and will fix something else for themselves or pick out what they do like. I am not offended by that, it just can waste food. (DH often eats leftovers for lunch, but not everything makes great leftovers.) No one puts anything on the grocery list, even for themselves. I went a month of buying nothing except what was put on the list (no mom psychic action) and they just whined but didn't change anything behavior wise. We keep the list on Alexa, and there's one of those within hearing distance of every room in this house, so there's no excuse. I've also said they can text me. I do try to do a lot of meals with separate components, even to the degree that I'll make something like stir fry and leave some meat plain for DS and some broccoli uncooked for DD. I guess maybe what I'm starting to see is that although I'd love to have the 1950's traditional "let's all sit down and enjoy the delicious, well-balanced meal mom made" kind of thing going on, it's just not going to happen, is it? Y'all still gave me food for thought - things like the idea that it really is OK not to please everyone every time. And I'll keep trying to get them to take some responsibility.
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RosieKat
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Post by RosieKat on Jun 28, 2023 15:10:49 GMT
ps - I'm going to go have dinner at AussieMeg's house!
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Jun 28, 2023 15:59:53 GMT
I guess maybe what I'm starting to see is that although I'd love to have the 1950's traditional "let's all sit down and enjoy the delicious, well-balanced meal mom made" kind of thing going on, it's just not going to happen, is it? Y'all still gave me food for thought - things like the idea that it really is OK not to please everyone every time. And I'll keep trying to get them to take some responsibility. I run into this all the time when decluttering when my "imaginary life" conflicts with my "real life". Sounds like your imaginary dinner time and your real dinner time don't mesh. So you need to just accept what you are dealing with and work with it. I'd prepare good meals, try to accommodate them when feasible, then let it go. Have other options available they can help themselves to. Honestly, they are not going to starve. They will eat when they get hungry. As for the grocery list, I gave up on family participation on my running grocery list. I buy what I know we are out of/running low and keep my eye out for new things DH might like (he's a non-picky eater). I do ask for input the day I go to the store, but if they don't tell me they are out of luck. He can get it himself or ask me the next time. Less stress all around. Good luck!
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Post by txsweetpea on Jun 28, 2023 18:22:59 GMT
I do things a little wacky, but it works for me. When my husband passed just over 6 years ago, I spent a whole year eating nothing but bean and cheese nachos if I felt the need for food.
I finally decided I needed to eat better but I did not want to shop or cook daily. I got into the habit of cooking whole family meals about twice a week. I would eat one portion and freeze the rest in individual portions. Before long I had a rotation of 8 to 10 various entrees and just as many different sides. I packed my freezer with 80 containers at a time. An hour before dinner time I would pop what I wanted into the oven.
Fast forward 4 years, and I became the primary caregiver to my 90 year old parents. I have continued on with my individual portion packaging and nothing could be more perfect in saving me time and effort. With their added freezer space, there are always at least 120 portions to choose from.
The bonus to me is if family or friends drop by, they pick their favorites from the freezer and we pop them in the oven. No shopping, no prepping, just enjoying each others’ company while dinner cooks. It’s also handy for friends coming home from the hospital or down with Covid. I am never caught unprepared. I watch the dates and rotate the containers on a weekly basis.
I know this isn’t for everyone but it is a life-saver for me!!
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Post by peaname on Jun 28, 2023 18:36:41 GMT
I would make a protein, two veggies and a carb for most meals. Salad bar once a week.
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