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Post by Merge on Aug 13, 2023 12:16:49 GMT
It's cute that you think all the money the Trumps have received from the Saudis and Russians was payment for goods received. I find it equally as cute that you can't, or won't, give even a simple explanation for what the biden family did to earn this massive wealth.
The trumps have been investigated up the ass and back. The biden family is off limits. I wonder why.
Not at all. Republicans have launched multiple investigations into the Bidens. If they've done something wrong, prosecute them. I don't need to give a simple explanation for how the Bidens have earned their money because you're the one making extraordinary claims. It's up to you to back them up.
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Post by sunshine on Aug 13, 2023 12:26:34 GMT
I find it equally as cute that you can't, or won't, give even a simple explanation for what the biden family did to earn this massive wealth.
The trumps have been investigated up the ass and back. The biden family is off limits. I wonder why.
Not at all. Republicans have launched multiple investigations into the Bidens. If they've done something wrong, prosecute them. I don't need to give a simple explanation for how the Bidens have earned their money because you're the one making extraordinary claims. It's up to you to back them up. Maybe if the DOJ, IRS, FBI, etc. were allowed to actually investigate, interview family members (including grandchildren) that received lots of money, execute search warrants, we'd know more.
For now we have the SARs, wire transfers, LLCs, texts, emails, the big guy repeatedly lying about knowing nothing about the boy's business dealings yet being on phone calls, lunches and dinners with those folks, hunter admitting he had to give dad half his salary...and so on.
But...nothing to see here.
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Post by Merge on Aug 13, 2023 13:38:48 GMT
Not at all. Republicans have launched multiple investigations into the Bidens. If they've done something wrong, prosecute them. I don't need to give a simple explanation for how the Bidens have earned their money because you're the one making extraordinary claims. It's up to you to back them up. Maybe if the DOJ, IRS, FBI, etc. were allowed to actually investigate, interview family members (including grandchildren) that received lots of money, execute search warrants, we'd know more.
For now we have the SARs, wire transfers, LLCs, texts, emails, the big guy repeatedly lying about knowing nothing about the boy's business dealings yet being on phone calls, lunches and dinners with those folks, hunter admitting he had to give dad half his salary...and so on.
But...nothing to see here. As I said, if they have the evidence you claim, bring it forward and seek a prosecution. Absolutely no one is stopping them, particularly if you can find jurisdiction outside of DC, but the feds have now appointed a special prosecutor so maybe you'll get some movement. I'm no fan of Biden and would rather have a different candidate in 2024, so you'll get no complaints from me. It's unfortunate, though, that house Republicans quashed the investigation into Kushner's dealings with the Saudis when they took control last year. I'm sure you're just as eager as I am for government officials - or those pretending to be officials - to be investigated and indicted if they've done wrong.
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Post by pinklady on Aug 13, 2023 14:00:59 GMT
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Post by peabay on Aug 13, 2023 14:20:21 GMT
I am playing catch-up, as I missed the news this morning. And I’m not clear about what this means. But if it helps to end this tiresome story, why not? Although for Republicans, the sun will never set on the topic of Hunter Biden. Because they hope it distracts their followers from the actual news of them doing nothing.
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Post by compeateropeator on Aug 13, 2023 14:47:21 GMT
I am another one that says do it, get it over, and charge him for what ever crimes can be proven. The same thing I have said about Trump and family. I do think, however, that no matter who was chosen for the Special Counsel or what the final outcome is there will be a very vocal segment of the US that will never be happy. They will continue to complain about biases, improprieties, the deep state, and whatever. Just as they will also never acknowledge that Trump is guilty even if convicted.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 13, 2023 15:21:01 GMT
We're getting somewhere!
ivanka-shoes
jared-real estate
trump-golf courses and hotels
All 3 provided goods or services for their payments. You don't have to like the shoes, or agree with the real estate deals, etc., but those are goods and/or services provided in return for payment.
Now...WTF did hunter DO? What goods and/or services did he provide that explains the millions and millions of dollars he received? What?
Another simple way to look at it: Hirsh Naftali paid $1.5M (?) for hunter's fine blow art. He sold blow art, she paid money, she then received the blow art. There's the "goods" that he sold. (Whether that is why she received an appointment to the Commission for the Preservation of America's Heritage Abroad is for another day.)
So, what did hunter DO to explain the huge amounts of money he was paid?
No one will or can give an answer to that.
Adding: Before anyone tries to say maybe hunter was selling his "art" back then, his blow art business didn't start until after his daddy took up residence in the White House.
It's cute that you think all the money the Trumps have received from the Saudis and Russians was payment for goods received. I hear the shuffling of documents in hand! Jared's extensive use of whazzzup!!
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Post by lizacreates on Aug 13, 2023 15:48:27 GMT
Well, I will admit Kushner offered some great “goods” for MBS’s money. I mean, a PR campaign by both a president and his son-in-law to cleanse MBS’s reputation after chopping up a journalist into pieces, a kill list from the CIA, a multi-billion-dollar arms deal? $2B…pfft…MBS likely thought he got a great bargain.
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Post by elaine on Aug 13, 2023 16:00:04 GMT
Well, I will admit Kushner offered some great “goods” for MBS’s money. I mean, a PR campaign by both a president and his son-in-law to cleanse MBS’s reputation after chopping up a journalist into pieces, a kill list from the CIA, a multi-billion-dollar arms deal? $2B…pfft…MBS likely thought he got a great bargain. Well, don’t you know that the GOP’s “pro-life” stance only applies to embryos and fetuses? Once they are out-of-the-womb, killing children and adults doesn’t matter. See: the GOP’s response to proposed sensible gun control for another example.
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Post by lizacreates on Aug 13, 2023 18:27:10 GMT
Well, I will admit Kushner offered some great “goods” for MBS’s money. I mean, a PR campaign by both a president and his son-in-law to cleanse MBS’s reputation after chopping up a journalist into pieces, a kill list from the CIA, a multi-billion-dollar arms deal? $2B…pfft…MBS likely thought he got a great bargain. Well, don’t you know that the GOP’s “pro-life” stance only applies to embryos and fetuses? Once they are out-of-the-womb, killing children and adults doesn’t matter. See: the GOP’s response to proposed sensible gun control for another example. And slash WIC, Medicaid, SNAP, etc. It was never about children. It’s always been about controlling women.
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Post by lizacreates on Aug 13, 2023 19:04:05 GMT
Maybe if the DOJ, IRS, FBI, etc. were allowed to actually investigate, interview family members (including grandchildren) that received lots of money, execute search warrants, we'd know more.
For now we have the SARs, wire transfers, LLCs, texts, emails, the big guy repeatedly lying about knowing nothing about the boy's business dealings yet being on phone calls, lunches and dinners with those folks, hunter admitting he had to give dad half his salary...and so on.
But...nothing to see here. As I said, if they have the evidence you claim, bring it forward and seek a prosecution. Absolutely no one is stopping them, particularly if you can find jurisdiction outside of DC, but the feds have now appointed a special prosecutor so maybe you'll get some movement. I'm no fan of Biden and would rather have a different candidate in 2024, so you'l get no complaints from me. It's unfortunate, though, that house Republicans quashed the investigation into Kushner's dealings with the Saudis when they took control last year. I'm sure you're just as eager as I am for government officials - or those pretending to be officials - to be investigated and indicted if they've done wrong. Shoot. Kushner was greasing the skids for MBS even in the first year of Trump’s term. So, if you’re MBS and the CIA concluded you were the mastermind in the Khashoggi murder and dismemberment, what would you do? Of course you’d go to Mr Faux Middle East Diplomat who has been your White House BFF from day one. The guy you’ve been exchanging backchannel and WhatsApp comms with. The guy who has his father-in-law’s ear. Because who better to whitewash your crime than a US president, no? Faux Middle East Diplomat praised MBS’s “reforms” and characterized his actions as a dictator and murderer as “a couple of misdeeds.” (Try not to split your sides laughing over that.) Corker (R-TN) and Menendez (D-NJ), in a Congress where Ds and Rs can’t even agree on what pizza to order, triggered an investigation. Comer The Clown puts a kibosh on it. Father-in-law, who can’t shut up even if you duct tape his mouth, brags: “I saved his ass. I was able to get Congress to leave him alone. I was able to get them to stop.” PR ain’t cheap, right?
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 13, 2023 20:47:06 GMT
Jamie Raskin speaks.. about investigation of TFG et al $$$$$ while he was in office
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Aug 13, 2023 21:56:53 GMT
It's cute that you think all the money the Trumps have received from the Saudis and Russians was payment for goods received. I find it equally as cute that you can't, or won't, give even a simple explanation for what the biden family did to earn this massive wealth.
The trumps have been investigated up the ass and back. The biden family is off limits. I wonder why.
When will the investigations into the trump kids and Trump’s business dealings while president start?
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 14, 2023 3:48:59 GMT
More.. not just us...
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 14, 2023 14:15:55 GMT
And Hunter Biden is the bad guy!!! On Monday morning, MSNBC economic analyst Steve Rattner stunned the "Morning Joe" panel with a chart that showed how much money Donald Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner swiftly amassed for his hedge fund within six months after leaving the White House. More importantly, there were questions raised about the sources of Kushner's $3.1 billion windfall. During the segment, Rattner displayed a chart that showed a slim one percent coming from U.S. investors with a massive percentage coming from Middle Eastern interests. www.rawstory.com/jared-kushner-2663695210/
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Post by refugeepea on Aug 14, 2023 14:35:54 GMT
And slash WIC, Medicaid, SNAP, etc. It was never about children. It’s always been about controlling women. And keeping rich white men in control.
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Post by refugeepea on Aug 14, 2023 14:47:57 GMT
I find it equally as cute that you can't, or won't, give even a simple explanation for what the biden family did to earn this massive wealth.
The trumps have been investigated up the ass and back. The biden family is off limits. I wonder why. 10/30/20 - USE HUNTER BIDEN AS A DISTRACTION
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Post by refugeepea on Aug 14, 2023 15:03:28 GMT
The trumps have been investigated up the ass and back. Will you please provide links for investigations into
-Secret Service spent more than $16,000 on Kushner’s UAE and Qatar trip. Both countries invested in his firm. -Why did Russia pay 95 million to buy Trump's Palm Beach mansion? -"the Russian government's support for Trump" -Saudi Arabia funneling 'billions' to Trump family as former president launches comeback
-Trump’s Businesses Raked In $1.9 Billion Of Revenue During His First Three Years In Office -How Trump Made $30,000 Off the Las Vegas Mass Shooting There's much more, but I'm tired of copying and pasting.
Then there's ALL the ongoing investigations and indictments (last count was 78 that I remember).
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Post by lizacreates on Aug 14, 2023 15:25:55 GMT
On Monday morning, MSNBC economic analyst Steve Rattner stunned the "Morning Joe" panel with a chart that showed how much money Donald Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner swiftly amassed for his hedge fund within six months after leaving the White House. More importantly, there were questions raised about the sources of Kushner's $3.1 billion windfall. During the segment, Rattner displayed a chart that showed a slim one percent coming from U.S. investors with a massive percentage coming from Middle Eastern interests. That’s why you don’t need a gov't salary. As George Gershwin wrote, “nice work if you can get it.” Just make sure you don’t call in the chit until after you leave your "senior advisor" role.
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Post by maryannscraps on Aug 14, 2023 15:47:54 GMT
It's cute that you think all the money the Trumps have received from the Saudis and Russians was payment for goods received. I find it equally as cute that you can't, or won't, give even a simple explanation for what the biden family did to earn this massive wealth.
The trumps have been investigated up the ass and back. The biden family is off limits. I wonder why.
Really? Massive wealth? Just one of Jared’s post-government deals is worth more than 200 times President Biden’s entire net worth. President and Mrs. Biden have a net worth of about 9 million. That’s a tidy sum, but certainly not massive wealth. In fact, most of it was for a series of book deals.
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 14, 2023 17:13:23 GMT
I find it equally as cute that you can't, or won't, give even a simple explanation for what the biden family did to earn this massive wealth.
The trumps have been investigated up the ass and back. The biden family is off limits. I wonder why.
Really? Massive wealth? Just one of Jared’s post-government deals is worth more than 200 times President Biden’s entire net worth. President and Mrs. Biden have a net worth of about 9 million. That’s a tidy sum, but certainly not massive wealth. In fact, most of it was for a series of book deals. And unlike Trump, the Bidens have released their taxes. The Bidens are not trying to hide anything.
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 14, 2023 17:25:28 GMT
Aaron Rupar commenting on a Fox News interview.
1) The sum of money Republicans claim the Biden family received just keeps going up. It's $50m now. Almost like they're fudging the math!
2) Despite Nancy Mace's lies here, there is still no evidence indicting Joe Biden received any money from foreign sources
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Post by sunshine on Aug 14, 2023 19:54:35 GMT
I see a lot of Ivanka this, Jared that, pie chart, videos...you got it all, about the Trumps.
But, not a single person can say what Hunter DID, a cracked out hooker addict, in such demand. What did he do? Not a single person curious? Of course not.
Again, the Trumps have been investigated non-stop. If they have anything, they'll be charged, I'm sure of that. Can't say the same about the big guy.
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Post by Merge on Aug 14, 2023 20:27:50 GMT
I see a lot of Ivanka this, Jared that, pie chart, videos...you got it all, about the Trumps. But, not a single person can say what Hunter DID, a cracked out hooker addict, in such demand. What did he do? Not a single person curious? Of course not. Again, the Trumps have been investigated non-stop. If they have anything, they'll be charged, I'm sure of that. Can't say the same about the big guy. You keep saying that. What is preventing house Republicans from investigating all they like? What is preventing any prosecutor in any of the jurisdictions where he might have committed crimes? Since I’m not as invested in this story as you are, I had to do some googling about what Hunter Biden does. It seems he has a law degree from Yale and has held a variety of positions in finance. www.cnn.com/factsfirst/politics/factcheck_bc2e6d6a-1978-4dc8-91f3-41b47db23277So there you go. Again, if he did something wrong, what is stopping anyone from investigating?
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Post by maryannscraps on Aug 14, 2023 20:30:15 GMT
I see a lot of Ivanka this, Jared that, pie chart, videos...you got it all, about the Trumps. But, not a single person can say what Hunter DID, a cracked out hooker addict, in such demand. What did he do? Not a single person curious? Of course not. Again, the Trumps have been investigated non-stop. If they have anything, they'll be charged, I'm sure of that. Can't say the same about the big guy. But I haven’t seen any credible evidence about President Biden doing ANYTHING criminal. His son is certainly shady, and has been charged with not paying his taxes. If there’s more to charge him with, go for it. I got no love for Hunter, but he was never employed by the government, while the Kushners were. I’m more concerned about the Kushners because they were actually acting as representatives of the government while they were setting up all these deals.
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Post by compeateropeator on Aug 14, 2023 22:39:41 GMT
I see a lot of Ivanka this, Jared that, pie chart, videos...you got it all, about the Trumps. But, not a single person can say what Hunter DID, a cracked out hooker addict, in such demand. What did he do? Not a single person curious? Of course not. Again, the Trumps have been investigated non-stop. If they have anything, they'll be charged, I'm sure of that. Can't say the same about the big guy.As I have said more than once investigate Hunter and if a crime is found then prosecute. I have seen many people put forth the same comments. Not sure how much clearer it can be. For the (bold) last part of your comments: They obviously did find things as Trump is being charged. 🤷🏻♀️ Now as far as your comments on the “big guy”… if crimes are found prosecute but I don’t think that you can do that until he is no longer a sitting President as per Trump’s rules. 😉😄. Isn’t that what his lawyers argued in Sept/Oct of 2019. Or is Trump and the Republicans changing the rules again? I can’t seem to keep straight all of Trump’s when you can and when you can’t investigate; when there was fraud and when there was not; When it is okay to golf and spend every weekend away from the White House and when it is considered a dereliction of duty, etc. 😆 President Trump’s lawyer argued in a federal court on Wednesday morning that he could not be prosecuted for a crime even if he shot someone in broad daylight on Fifth Avenue.
Attorneys for Trump made the argument during an appeals court case against Manhattan District Attorney Cy Vance, who is seeking Trump’s tax returns as part of an ongoing criminal investigation.
The doctrine that a sitting president is immune from criminal indictment or prosecution is not new. The Department of Justice has a longstanding policy, outlined by the Office of Legal Counsel, that a sitting president cannot be charged with a federal crime.
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 15, 2023 0:09:48 GMT
Acyn…
”Johnson: Joe supposedly reported 16 million worth of income after the Vice Presidency. How did he make that income? Is part of that 16 million the 10 million dollars the 5 million dollars he got fro Uhh the bribe in Ukraine? We don’t know”
I have a question. When one reports income that they include on their tax return doesn’t one have to give the IRS a hint of what it’s from? They can’t show it as a “bribe” can they?
I always did. Of course I never came close to reporting $16M so maybe it’s done differently.
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Post by mollycoddle on Aug 15, 2023 0:57:18 GMT
Really? Massive wealth? Just one of Jared’s post-government deals is worth more than 200 times President Biden’s entire net worth. President and Mrs. Biden have a net worth of about 9 million. That’s a tidy sum, but certainly not massive wealth. In fact, most of it was for a series of book deals. And unlike Trump, the Bidens have released their taxes. The Bidens are not trying to hide anything. Yup. Unlike Felonious Trump, they have nothing to hide. For those who are curious about their income… www.forbes.com/sites/michelatindera/2020/10/22/how-the-bidens-earned-167-million-after-leaving-the-white-house/?sh=11ed714a1e42It is not uncommon for Presidents and Vice Presidents to earn $$ from books and/or appearances.
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Post by morecowbell on Aug 15, 2023 1:44:49 GMT
The guy is a Republican so I’m not sure what the problem is? Let the investigation happen. This is the same guy who was documented AT THE TIME as saying he didn't have the authority to investigate. Backed up by 7 people on an email. AT THE TIME. This is the same guy who was supposedly "investigating" for 5 years. An investigation documented as rife with obstruction. This is the same guy that all claimed he already had full power to investigate. If that's the case, why does he need to be something different NOW? This is the same guy who agreed to a plea deal for Hunter that Hunter would be safe from prosecution of all future crimes. And tried to get it passed the judge and have the judge just rubber stamp it. You know damn well if this were going in the other direction, you would NOT be okay with any of that.
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Post by morecowbell on Aug 15, 2023 1:51:35 GMT
Unfortunately for me (sigh) I live in a pretty red state. That being said I never hear anyone talking about Hunter nor do I see anyone posting on social media. Nationally the Republican party is having this big outrage, but across the country normal folks don't seem to care. If Hunter is guilty of something either charge him or move on. This probably isn't going to be the big election scandal the Republicans are hoping for. CNN has already started talking Biden down as "not a solid candidate". MSNBC says something similar. They do care. There's a reason Biden's approval ratings are so low.
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