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Post by christine58 on Aug 15, 2023 0:41:29 GMT
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Post by jackietex on Aug 15, 2023 0:53:50 GMT
Because he was 18, I cannot understand what good reason the Tuohy's had for getting conservatorship over him.
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Post by myshelly on Aug 15, 2023 0:55:05 GMT
When I click on your link in the OP I get a message that says “something has gone wrong.”
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Post by nicolep on Aug 15, 2023 1:01:15 GMT
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Post by pinklady on Aug 15, 2023 1:03:04 GMT
I’m so sad about this. I know Michael was not happy about how he was portrayed the movie. I just really don’t want this to be true. I follow Leigh Anne on social media and I just really thought the Touhys were good people.
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Post by christine58 on Aug 15, 2023 1:04:31 GMT
When I click on your link in the OP I get a message that says “something has gone wrong.” Ok let me see if I can fix it |
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Post by cindyupnorth on Aug 15, 2023 1:24:17 GMT
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Post by mom on Aug 15, 2023 1:33:27 GMT
Because he was 18, I cannot understand what good reason the Tuohy's had for getting conservatorship over him. I don't know for a fact that this is the case, but if I had to guess, it would be because of NCAA rules and them being such big (and well known) supporters of Ol' Miss. Just speculation, though. |
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Post by mom on Aug 15, 2023 1:35:22 GMT
I’m so sad about this. I know Michael was not happy about how he was portrayed the movie. I just really don’t want this to be true. I follow Leigh Anne on social media and I just really thought the Touhys were good people. Same. I really hope there is more info that will come out that we haven't heard. I do wonder, though, if Michael is under a conservatorship, how was he able to sign contracts for the NFL? Wouldn't that have to be approved by his conservator? I dont know...something about this feels really weird. |
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Post by femalebusiness on Aug 15, 2023 2:05:33 GMT
It doesn't really surprise me. I always felt there was something off about that movie. It was obviously meant to be a feel good movie but it also seemed to me to be sort of degrading to Michael. They made him out to be stupid and the white saviors saved him and taught him to be a football player. I never cared for Leigh Anne Tuohey. She always came across as a phony do-gooder who thinks of herself as a step above everyone else.
The story may change a bit as more info comes out but not surprising at all that a supposedly christian, southern woman used a black kid to boost her self esteem and ultimately made a bunch of money off of him.
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Post by librarylady on Aug 15, 2023 2:43:57 GMT
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Post by Zee on Aug 15, 2023 4:19:03 GMT
It doesn't really surprise me. I always felt there was something off about that movie. It was obviously meant to be a feel good movie but it also seemed to me to be sort of degrading to Michael. They made him out to be stupid and the white saviors saved him and taught him to be a football player. I never cared for Leigh Anne Tuohey. She always came across as a phony do-gooder who thinks of herself as a step above everyone else. The story may change a bit as more info comes out but not surprising at all that a supposedly christian, southern woman used a black kid to boost her self esteem and ultimately made a bunch of money off of him. I agree, always made me feel "ick". Big dumb disadvantaged kid saved by white family. 🤨 |
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Post by Dani-Mani on Aug 15, 2023 10:12:16 GMT
He’s spoken out about this for years. It seems more and more pieces of the puzzle began to make sense. He hasn’t had a relationship with them for years either and they continue to try to profit off his name.
I hope he bankrupts them.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Aug 15, 2023 11:37:12 GMT
It doesn't really surprise me. I always felt there was something off about that movie. It was obviously meant to be a feel good movie but it also seemed to me to be sort of degrading to Michael. They made him out to be stupid and the white saviors saved him and taught him to be a football player. I never cared for Leigh Anne Tuohey. She always came across as a phony do-gooder who thinks of herself as a step above everyone else. The story may change a bit as more info comes out but not surprising at all that a supposedly christian, southern woman used a black kid to boost her self esteem and ultimately made a bunch of money off of him. My feelings could be jaded bc I just finished Yellowface this weekend, and it's about a white girl who stole a manuscript when the Asian author died, and passed it off as her own, but damn, I always felt that in the movie, Sandra Bullock/Leigh Anne always felt so reluctant or hesitant, and not really doing it out of the goodness of her own heart. I always thought it was SB's flavor on the character, but maybe it was more right on, maybe she wasn't taking him in, helping him out of the goodness of her own heart, but rather bc she felt she had to as a white Christian woman. |
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Post by mom on Aug 15, 2023 12:55:58 GMT
So I am reading this morning that SJ (the little brother) is claiming Michael tried to blackmail them for money in 2021.
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Post by peabay on Aug 15, 2023 13:05:51 GMT
So I am reading this morning that SJ (the little brother) is claiming Michael tried to blackmail them for money in 2021. One man's "blackmail" is another man's "I deserve some money from what you made off of me and if you don't pay me, I'm going public with this story." |
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Post by lindas on Aug 15, 2023 13:42:24 GMT
There’s always two sides to every story and we’re only hearing one so far. I’ll reserve judgement until the whole story is out.
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Post by mom on Aug 15, 2023 13:50:06 GMT
So I am reading this morning that SJ (the little brother) is claiming Michael tried to blackmail them for money in 2021. One man's "blackmail" is another man's "I deserve some money from what you made off of me and if you don't pay me, I'm going public with this story." Oh I agree. The more I read, the more I think there is way more going on and it isn't pretty. |
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Post by peabay on Aug 15, 2023 13:54:08 GMT
There’s always two sides to every story and we’re only hearing one so far. I’ll reserve judgement until the whole story is out. I think we’re hearing the other side. A book was written and a movie was made about the other. |
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Post by artbabe on Aug 15, 2023 14:11:03 GMT
There’s always two sides to every story and we’re only hearing one so far. I’ll reserve judgement until the whole story is out. I think we’re hearing the other side. A book was written and a movie was made about the other. Absolutely this. They have already given their side of the story. It was obviously meant to be a feel good movie but it also seemed to me to be sort of degrading to Michael. They made him out to be stupid and the white saviors saved him and taught him to be a football player. I hate the whole white savior trope. It shows up in a lot of movies and it sucks. He has always said that the movie portrayed him to be stupid and that he was well-versed in football before he was connected with this family. |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Aug 15, 2023 14:34:32 GMT
I'd heard when the movie came out that he was upset about how it depicted him and didn't acknowledge that he had played football previously. I really hope they didn't profit off of him. I find it hard to believe that a savvy businessman only received 100K from the movie.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Aug 15, 2023 17:31:13 GMT
I saw Sean released a statement. This is from People magazine: people.com/blind-side-sean-tuohy-speaks-out-about-michael-oher-legal-petition-7643431This is interesting to me, must be what he is offering as an explanation: "Tuohy insisted the conservatorship that prompted the filing of Monday’s petition was unrelated to the movie. Rather, it was a way to appease the NCAA, the nonprofit organization that regulates student athletics, when it appeared Oher was likely to play football at the University of Mississippi. Tuohy was an All-American point guard at the Southern university known as "Ole Miss" and an active supporter of the school. As such, he would qualify as a “booster” under NCAA rules." “Michael was obviously living with us for a long time, and the NCAA didn’t like that,” Tuohy told the Daily Memphian. “They said the only way Michael could go to Ole Miss was if he was actually part of the family. I sat Michael down and told him, ‘If you’re planning to go to Ole Miss — or even considering Ole Miss — we think you have to be part of the family. This would do that, legally.’ We contacted lawyers who had told us that we couldn’t adopt over the age of 18; the only thing we could do was to have a conservatorship. We were so concerned it was on the up-and-up that we made sure the biological mother came to court.” And also: Oher's attorney J. Gerard Stranch IV told ESPN that the Super Bowl champion recently learned that he was the only member of the family not receiving royalty checks, and hired Stranch to begin looking into the situation. That led the attorney to uncover the conservatorship papers earlier this year that showed Oher was allegedly never officially adopted by the Tuohy family. |
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Post by librarylady on Aug 15, 2023 17:43:55 GMT
That would make me want to receive royalty checks, (if I were Oher.)
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Post by papersilly on Aug 15, 2023 17:53:12 GMT
what i don't get is, if they did the conservatorship to help further his football, why not share the movie money with him? after all, he is a central figure in the movie, so why not pay him accordingly? apparently the kids got money and yet michael didn't?
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Post by auntkelly on Aug 15, 2023 17:58:19 GMT
I saw Sean released a statement. This is from People magazine: people.com/blind-side-sean-tuohy-speaks-out-about-michael-oher-legal-petition-7643431This is interesting to me, must be what he is offering as an explanation: "Tuohy insisted the conservatorship that prompted the filing of Monday’s petition was unrelated to the movie. Rather, it was a way to appease the NCAA, the nonprofit organization that regulates student athletics, when it appeared Oher was likely to play football at the University of Mississippi. Tuohy was an All-American point guard at the Southern university known as "Ole Miss" and an active supporter of the school. As such, he would qualify as a “booster” under NCAA rules." “Michael was obviously living with us for a long time, and the NCAA didn’t like that,” Tuohy told the Daily Memphian. “They said the only way Michael could go to Ole Miss was if he was actually part of the family. I sat Michael down and told him, ‘If you’re planning to go to Ole Miss — or even considering Ole Miss — we think you have to be part of the family. This would do that, legally.’ We contacted lawyers who had told us that we couldn’t adopt over the age of 18; the only thing we could do was to have a conservatorship. We were so concerned it was on the up-and-up that we made sure the biological mother came to court.” And also: Oher's attorney J. Gerard Stranch IV told ESPN that the Super Bowl champion recently learned that he was the only member of the family not receiving royalty checks, and hired Stranch to begin looking into the situation. That led the attorney to uncover the conservatorship papers earlier this year that showed Oher was allegedly never officially adopted by the Tuohy family. Sean’s statement possibly explains why the Tuohys petitioned the court for a conservatorship, but it doesn’t explain why the Tuohy’s didn’t exercise their power under the conservatorship to negotiate a cut of the movie profits for Oher, as they apparently did for themselves and their two biological children. |
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Post by sabrinae on Aug 15, 2023 19:27:18 GMT
I saw Sean released a statement. This is from People magazine: people.com/blind-side-sean-tuohy-speaks-out-about-michael-oher-legal-petition-7643431This is interesting to me, must be what he is offering as an explanation: "Tuohy insisted the conservatorship that prompted the filing of Monday’s petition was unrelated to the movie. Rather, it was a way to appease the NCAA, the nonprofit organization that regulates student athletics, when it appeared Oher was likely to play football at the University of Mississippi. Tuohy was an All-American point guard at the Southern university known as "Ole Miss" and an active supporter of the school. As such, he would qualify as a “booster” under NCAA rules." “Michael was obviously living with us for a long time, and the NCAA didn’t like that,” Tuohy told the Daily Memphian. “They said the only way Michael could go to Ole Miss was if he was actually part of the family. I sat Michael down and told him, ‘If you’re planning to go to Ole Miss — or even considering Ole Miss — we think you have to be part of the family. This would do that, legally.’ We contacted lawyers who had told us that we couldn’t adopt over the age of 18; the only thing we could do was to have a conservatorship. We were so concerned it was on the up-and-up that we made sure the biological mother came to court.” And also: Oher's attorney J. Gerard Stranch IV told ESPN that the Super Bowl champion recently learned that he was the only member of the family not receiving royalty checks, and hired Stranch to begin looking into the situation. That led the attorney to uncover the conservatorship papers earlier this year that showed Oher was allegedly never officially adopted by the Tuohy family. This isn’t even legally accurate though. You can adopt someone over the age of 18 in every state. It only requires the consent of the person being adopted. It happens with some frequency.a conservator ship is different and is usually used when someone isn’t competent to handle their own affairs and needs. Clearly not the case for a guy who ended up playing sec college football and in the nfl. |
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Post by lisae on Aug 15, 2023 19:50:20 GMT
I heard this on the news last night. Here is what I don't understand. If he has been in a conservatorship all these years, wouldn't the Touhy's have had to make all his legal decisions for him and sign all contracts? How could he possibly not have known? Why wouldn't his agent have known? If he had conservators, could he have bought a car, gotten housing or done anything without them being involved? Wouldn't the Touhy's had to be involved in all contract negotiations during his career? I just can not see how someone could be in a conservatorship for nearly 20 years of their adult life and not realize it.
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Post by sabrinae on Aug 15, 2023 20:13:55 GMT
I heard this on the news last night. Here is what I don't understand. If he has been in a conservatorship all these years, wouldn't the Touhy's have had to make all his legal decisions for him and sign all contracts? How could he possibly not have known? Why wouldn't his agent have known? If he had conservators, could he have bought a car, gotten housing or done anything without them being involved? Wouldn't the Touhy's had to be involved in all contract negotiations during his career? I just can not see how someone could be in a conservatorship for nearly 20 years of their adult life and not realize it. If he didn’t know he wouldn’t have disclosed it to anyone. The Touhy’s clearly had financial incentives to do whatever they have done. If they didn’t raise an issue- no one else involved would have known or had any reason to know. It wouldn’t be that hard if no one ever questioned any of the transactions and why would they? |
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Post by femalebusiness on Aug 15, 2023 20:19:11 GMT
I don't for a minute believe the Touhys are evil. I have no doubt that they told themselves that they were doing something good for Michael.
However, if they had wanted to legally adopt him they could have. They did not want him as a legal son as that may have caused problems with inheritance, their will/estate. They have money and if he was legally their son Michael would have received an equal share of their estate when they died.
In order for Michael to go to Ole Miss he had to be part of their family, hence the conservatorship. That made him eligible to attend Ole Miss. By doing a conservatorship it gave the Touhys control over him. They have profited from this arrangement from then on. I'm sure they collect a fee for their handling of his affairs.
The dad is a business person. He/the Touhys saw an opportunity and capitalized on it. Everyone, even Michael, profited but Michael was used.
I will be interested to see just how the money came in, how much everyone received, and if Michael got his fair share. There is more to this story.
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Post by lindas on Aug 15, 2023 20:21:09 GMT
I heard this on the news last night. Here is what I don't understand. If he has been in a conservatorship all these years, wouldn't the Touhy's have had to make all his legal decisions for him and sign all contracts? How could he possibly not have known? Why wouldn't his agent have known? If he had conservators, could he have bought a car, gotten housing or done anything without them being involved? Wouldn't the Touhy's had to be involved in all contract negotiations during his career? I just can not see how someone could be in a conservatorship for nearly 20 years of their adult life and not realize it. Exactly why I said earlier that there are two sides to every story and there’s definitely more to this one. |
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