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Post by aj2hall on Aug 20, 2023 17:09:42 GMT
I do not think there is a snowballs chance that Biden/Harris could get re-elected. He would stand a chance with a different VP. Without a different VP, Robert Kennedy will take away too many votes. Who do you think is going to vote for Kennedy? Democrats won't, even if they don't like Biden or Harris. Kennedy's favorability rating has dropped among Democrats and is much higher for Republicans. Kennedy as a 3rd party candidate is more likely to pull votes from the Republican nominee. A serious 3rd party candidate might be problematic for Biden/ Harris, but it's not likely Kennedy will change anything. fivethirtyeight.com/features/rfk-jr-democrat-republican-primary-favorability/Running against an incumbent president, Kennedy already faced extremely long odds in the Democratic primary. In terms of support, he has actually held steady around 15 percent all year long, according to FiveThirtyEight’s national polling average. But in order to improve upon that, he needs Democratic voters to like him, and that doesn’t seem to be the case — plus, things are moving in the wrong direction for him. Based on these numbers, if Kennedy is serious about wanting to become president, he should consider switching parties. |
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Post by Gennifer on Aug 20, 2023 22:21:50 GMT
For me, the “old white guys” refers to all branches of government, not just the president. We need representatives that understand the issues facing the bulk of our country, and, frankly, that ain’t 65+. What are the issues facing the bulk of our country us boomers don’t get? Serious question. Okay, here’s a recent conversation I had with my parents. My mom wanted to know why none of her grandkids are buying houses, and instead, renting with roommates. I asked her a few questions about the house they live in, which they bought new in 1974, when my mom was 23 and my dad was 26. They had 3 kids, and my mom was a SAHM while my dad, only a high-school graduate, was the one that worked. His annual income was $15k, and their brand new 2000sf house, on an acre, was $28K, less than double what he made in a year. My niece (who she was specifically asking about) is a college graduate making $50k. Her fiancé, also a college-graduate, makes about $55k. Even with both of them working (which, keep in mind, my mom didn’t work outside the home!) the cheapest houses available are starting at $400k… So, about 4x their COMBINED income, and these are run-down homes in bad neighborhoods, not brand new houses on acreage. But my mom doesn’t understand why she doesn’t just buy a house. |
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 20, 2023 23:04:09 GMT
What are the issues facing the bulk of our country us boomers don’t get? Serious question. OK Boomer Aside from the differences, it's time for boomers to retire and turn over the reins to younger generations. Younger generations are feeling resentful. Economic stability and prospects for young workers and people with lower income have been sacrificed to make more money for the wealthy. Time to step aside and let younger generations govern. Younger generations want people who have lived their reality, lived their experience to represent them. Older generations don't understand how circumstances have dramatically changed. Boomers assume because they paid for college, their own house etc, younger generations should be able to do the same. Boomers are not leaving a better world for younger generations. Boomers have slashed taxes for the wealthy, ignored climate change, allowed the opioid crisis to happen, allowed manufacturing jobs to disappear, financed expensive wars and tax cuts for the wealthy with deficits. It's not a coincidence that Reagan was elected with failed trickle down economics when boomers were the biggest voting block. The boomers flipped ask not what you can do for your country to individualism, privatized gain and societal risks for big banks, the opioid crisis, loss of manufacturing jobs and the housing crisis. Differences between boomers and younger generations Changing jobs/careers frequently Technology Mental illness - Depression and anxiety were taboo, a sign of weakness Values - For younger generations, life is about more than working hard, providing for your family, buying a house etc. Younger generations want a better work life balance. Spirituality - younger generations are less religious Money - Younger generations are less concerned about passing down wealth. Younger generations have a very different experience with money - they can't afford college or buying their own house. Guns - Younger generations have lived with the reality, trauma and fear of school and other mass shootings. Housing - It's not uncommon for younger generations to not be able to afford to live where they grew up. Environment - Younger generations feel the boomers prioritized making money over protecting the earth. And boomers will not be around or required to face or pay for the most serious consequences. Younger generations will be forced to clean up the mess made by boomers. Infrastructure - Schools, roads, transportation etc. Boomers benefitted from infrastructure but have not put money into maintaining it. Facts/ evidence/ science - Boomers are still clinging to trickle down economics despite all of the evidence that it doesn't work Immigration - Younger generations are much more likely to see immigrants as a strength for the economy Diversity - Younger generations are much more diverse and more inclusive. www.vox.com/2017/12/20/16772670/baby-boomers-millennials-congress-debtwww.pbs.org/newshour/show/ok-boomer-whats-behind-millennials-growing-resentment-for-their-predecessorsSeriously you just made the case for what I have been thinking for a long time. To quote Maverick “It’s not the plane but the pilot in the box that makes a difference” Translated “Its not the age but what the individual believes regardless of their age that makes a difference”. I have a three year old great grand niece who starts school in two years, do you honestly think I don’t know the difference between what I faced at school when I was her age compared to what she potentially faces at school of an angry white guy with an AR-15 who wants to randomly shoot and kill her and her schoolmates? Or that if we don’t take certain steps today the plant she will “inherit “ will hardly be habitable? And I can assure you my friends that have grandchildren feel the same way. As far as diversity goes I’m the one who wants to vote for the gay guy for president. Look at the ones pushing this “WOKE” nonsense. It’s not just boomers, it’s fools of all ages. Take technology. On one hand it’s fascinating. Did you know, depending on the electronic makeup of our fighter jets, a pilot can “lock on” to a target just be by staring at it through the visor/screen on their helmets. How neat is that. But technology also represents the greatest challenge to the work force. Did you know that and what it means? They had a sort of rumble in SF when the city increased the number of permits for driverless cars acting as taxis. As you can imagine the actual cab drivers weren’t happy. So what happens when these jobs start to disappear because of technology? Got a plan? Do you even understand it’s an issue? People always like to label things and if the criteria doesn’t quite fit they do their best to make it. This idea that all or most old people just don’t understand is an urban myth. Sure some boomers don’t get it, but the reality is individuals of all ages don’t always “get it.” |
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 20, 2023 23:40:55 GMT
What are the issues facing the bulk of our country us boomers don’t get? Serious question. Okay, here’s a recent conversation I had with my parents. My mom wanted to know why none of her grandkids are buying houses, and instead, renting with roommates. I asked her a few questions about the house they live in, which they bought new in 1974, when my mom was 23 and my dad was 26. They had 3 kids, and my mom was a SAHM while my dad, only a high-school graduate, was the one that worked. His annual income was $15k, and their brand new 2000sf house, on an acre, was $28K, less than double what he made in a year. My niece (who she was specifically asking about) is a college graduate making $50k. Her fiancé, also a college-graduate, makes about $55k. Even with both of them working (which, keep in mind, my mom didn’t work outside the home!) the cheapest houses available are starting at $400k… So, about 4x their COMBINED income, and these are run-down homes in bad neighborhoods, not brand new houses on acreage. But my mom doesn’t understand why she doesn’t just buy a house. Do you understand everything when someone tries to explain it to you? Not being a smartass but asking a serious question. But let’s talk about housing for a second. I live in Sonoma County north of San Francisco. When my parents bought their last home they paid $13,000 for a new 4 bed/2 bath home in 1960. Today that home is worth between $500k-$600k. That is the lower end of the scale for that size house. In other places in Sonoma County the cost of a 4bed/2bath can go over $1M and often does which prices a lot of families out of buying a home here. The average price of a 3bed/2bath home runs up to $800k. The reality is when one sells a home, rents apts/houses, or develops houses/apts they will sell or rent for as much as they can get. Which prices a lot of folks out of the market. This thinking is not unique to CA but to the entire country. The downside is when there is a surplus of homes/apts and values and rents drop. Now if you were to ask me how my iPhone was able to upload all the information on to my new iPad by simply sitting it next to the iPhone I couldn’t tell you. But it sure is neat. |
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Post by Gennifer on Aug 20, 2023 23:46:57 GMT
I’m not sure what the point of your post is. The bottom line is that my mom, in her 70’s, cannot understand the issues that are affecting younger generations. She thinks that because she was able to buy a house when she was young, everyone still can. She doesn’t understand that even with dual incomes, home ownership for two recent college graduates is still very out of reach.
That’s the point. And that’s why we all say enough “old white guys…” we need leadership in our country that CAN understand it.
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Post by smasonnc on Aug 21, 2023 0:25:43 GMT
I don't really understand the intense dislike of VP Harris. There have been a few occasions where she could have spoken more articulately or clearly. And she's been tasked with nearly impossible things like voting rights and immigration. I liked her on the campaign trail but she hasn't even tried to look like she's doing anything about immigration. I voted for Pete in the primaries and would vote for him again. Sadly, I don't think a lot of the country is ready for a gay president. For whoever decided this was a good place to rant about boomers, articles referencing one guy's book aren't data. Maybe a more in-depth understanding of economics in a global marketplace would be helpful. |
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 21, 2023 1:21:28 GMT
OK Boomer Aside from the differences, it's time for boomers to retire and turn over the reins to younger generations. Younger generations are feeling resentful. Economic stability and prospects for young workers and people with lower income have been sacrificed to make more money for the wealthy. Time to step aside and let younger generations govern. Younger generations want people who have lived their reality, lived their experience to represent them. Older generations don't understand how circumstances have dramatically changed. Boomers assume because they paid for college, their own house etc, younger generations should be able to do the same. Boomers are not leaving a better world for younger generations. Boomers have slashed taxes for the wealthy, ignored climate change, allowed the opioid crisis to happen, allowed manufacturing jobs to disappear, financed expensive wars and tax cuts for the wealthy with deficits. It's not a coincidence that Reagan was elected with failed trickle down economics when boomers were the biggest voting block. The boomers flipped ask not what you can do for your country to individualism, privatized gain and societal risks for big banks, the opioid crisis, loss of manufacturing jobs and the housing crisis. Differences between boomers and younger generations Changing jobs/careers frequently Technology Mental illness - Depression and anxiety were taboo, a sign of weakness Values - For younger generations, life is about more than working hard, providing for your family, buying a house etc. Younger generations want a better work life balance. Spirituality - younger generations are less religious Money - Younger generations are less concerned about passing down wealth. Younger generations have a very different experience with money - they can't afford college or buying their own house. Guns - Younger generations have lived with the reality, trauma and fear of school and other mass shootings. Housing - It's not uncommon for younger generations to not be able to afford to live where they grew up. Environment - Younger generations feel the boomers prioritized making money over protecting the earth. And boomers will not be around or required to face or pay for the most serious consequences. Younger generations will be forced to clean up the mess made by boomers. Infrastructure - Schools, roads, transportation etc. Boomers benefitted from infrastructure but have not put money into maintaining it. Facts/ evidence/ science - Boomers are still clinging to trickle down economics despite all of the evidence that it doesn't work Immigration - Younger generations are much more likely to see immigrants as a strength for the economy Diversity - Younger generations are much more diverse and more inclusive. www.vox.com/2017/12/20/16772670/baby-boomers-millennials-congress-debtwww.pbs.org/newshour/show/ok-boomer-whats-behind-millennials-growing-resentment-for-their-predecessorsSeriously you just made the case for what I have been thinking for a long time. To quote Maverick “It’s not the plane but the pilot in the box that makes a difference” Translated “Its not the age but what the individual believes regardless of their age that makes a difference”. I have a three year old great grand niece who starts school in two years, do you honestly think I don’t know the difference between what I faced at school when I was her age compared to what she potentially faces at school of an angry white guy with an AR-15 who wants to randomly shoot and kill her and her schoolmates? Or that if we don’t take certain steps today the plant she will “inherit “ will hardly be habitable? And I can assure you my friends that have grandchildren feel the same way. As far as diversity goes I’m the one who wants to vote for the gay guy for president. Look at the ones pushing this “WOKE” nonsense. It’s not just boomers, it’s fools of all ages. Take technology. On one hand it’s fascinating. Did you know, depending on the electronic makeup of our fighter jets, a pilot can “lock on” to a target just be by staring at it through the visor/screen on their helmets. How neat is that. But technology also represents the greatest challenge to the work force. Did you know that and what it means? They had a sort of rumble in SF when the city increased the number of permits for driverless cars acting as taxis. As you can imagine the actual cab drivers weren’t happy. So what happens when these jobs start to disappear because of technology? Got a plan? Do you even understand it’s an issue? People always like to label things and if the criteria doesn’t quite fit they do their best to make it. This idea that all or most old people just don’t understand is an urban myth. Sure some boomers don’t get it, but the reality is individuals of all ages don’t always “get it.” I recognize that some boomers are tech savvy and some boomers understand the financial challenges facing younger generations. My mom is one of the most progressive people that I know. You asked what boomers don't understand and I answered in generalities. I recognize that they don't apply to every baby boomer. Just like the stereotypes of entitlement, laziness, and sensitivity don't apply to every younger person. Overall, boomers vote Republican and supported Trump, even tipped the scales in his favor in 2016. The reality is that boomers have been the largest voting block since Reagan was elected. Many politicians are boomers, they listen to them, represent them and vote for their interests. The average age of senators has actually increased over the last couple of elections. And age is actually relevant to legislation. Boomers are more likely to vote for legislation to benefit their generation, less likely to vote for things to reduce climate change. It seems reasonable that younger generations want politicians using phones more advanced than a flip phone and politicians that don't confuse Tik Tok for the little mints. crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R46705The average age of Members of the House at the beginning of the 117th Congress was 58.4 years; of Senators, 64.3 years.www.brookings.edu/articles/the-demographic-blowback-that-elected-donald-trump/fivethirtyeight.com/features/aging-congress-boomers/Older members of Congress are notorious for their lack of familiarity with modern technology. Late last month, at least three different representatives in a hearing on TikTok called the popular app “Tic Tac,” a breath mint available in many store checkout lines. This is only the latest in a long line of amusing tech-related congressional miscues: Back in 2006, Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens described the internet as “a series of tubes,” and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer copped to his struggles when in 2022 he held up his flip phone and said he was “not very tech-oriented” during a speech on the Senate floor.
And the overrepresentation of boomers doesn’t just produce moments like those of the TikTok hearings — it also has real effects on the type of policies passed by the federal legislature.
Forty-eight percent of the current Congress is made up of boomers, even though they only represented about 21 percent of the population in the most recent census. And this actually represents a decline in representation for boomers, who made up 63 percent of Congress in the mid-2010s.
Thanks to their size, baby boomers have been an especially long-lasting force in congressional politics. Boomers are now in their 25th consecutive Congress,4 but still make up about half the membership, putting them well ahead of earlier generations.
But on top of the baby boomers’ outsized congressional representation, they’re also older than their predecessors in the Lost, Greatest and Silent generations were when those groups held the most sway on Capitol Hill.
Older members of Congress were more likely to introduce legislation that addressed senior issues, especially bills dealing with high-profile issues like long-term care and prescription drugs.
On the flip side, this also leaves us with a Congress that may not focus as much on issues that are important to younger Americans. Politicians tend to respond most to the needs and desires of constituents who are most like them, and older Americans are, for instance, less concerned about climate change than their younger counterparts. And while both younger and older Americans are worried about housing, those concerns differ: Younger Americans are having a tougher time buying a home — a traditional path to building wealth — than their predecessors did, while older Americans are more worried about access to assisted living to stay in their homes. |
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 21, 2023 1:35:20 GMT
It wasn't my intention to turn this into a rant about boomers, but the OP asked what boomers don't understand. So, here are some statistics and economic numbers for the financial challenges that younger generations face. www.consumeraffairs.com/finance/comparing-the-costs-of-generations.htmlGen Z dollars today have 86% less purchasing power than those from when baby boomers were in their twenties.
The cost of public and private school tuition has increased by 310% and 245%, respectively, since the 1970s.
Gen Zers and millennials are paying 57% more per gallon of gas than baby boomers did in their 20s.www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/08/12/millennial-home-buyers/‘Unluckiest generation’ falters in boomer-dominated market for homes
The median age of a first-time home buyer climbs to 36, as high interest rates and asking prices further erode spending power
Homeownership — the main driver of wealth for most Americans — is out of reach for large swaths of the population. But the pinch is most pronounced for millennials, who are buying homes at a slower pace than those before them. Baby boomers, in fact, represented the largest share of home buyers this year — a spot millennials had held since 2014 — according to research by the National Association of Realtors.
“Boomers are absolutely in the driver’s seat,” said Jessica Lautz, deputy chief economist at the association, because they have built up home equity and can pay in cash. “Unfortunately, that has pushed many millennials to the sidelines.”
Rising interest rates and persistently high asking prices have further eroded their buying power. The median U.S. home sold for $416,100 in the second quarter of 2023, a 26 percent jump since early 2020, Federal Reserve data shows. Median sales prices were significantly higher in the Northeast ($789,600) and the West ($547,900).www.npr.org/2019/02/01/689660957/heavy-student-loan-debt-forces-many-millennials-to-delay-buying-homesStudent loan debt in the United States has more than doubled over the past decade to about $1.5 trillion, and the Federal Reserve now estimates that it is cutting into millennials' ability to buy homes.
Homeownership rates for people ages 24 to 32 dropped nearly 9 percentage points between 2005 and 2014 — effectively driving down homeownership rates overall. In January, the Fed estimated 20 percent of that decline is attributable to student loan debt.www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2019/02/14/millennial-life-how-young-adulthood-today-compares-with-prior-generations-2/
Millennials, hit hard by the Great Recession, have been somewhat slower in forming their own households than previous generations. They’re more likely to live in their parents’ home and also more likely to be at home for longer stretches. In 2018, 15% of Millennials (ages 25 to 37) were living in their parents’ home. This is nearly double the share of early Boomers and Silents (8% each) and 6 percentage points higher than Gen Xers who did so when they were the same age. |
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 21, 2023 1:40:27 GMT
When one goes on about boomers not getting it, this following thread shows, IMO, how silly that is. Why because when you look at the Republicans they are all ages and they are buying this crap. And they vote.
Leah McElrath…
“Right-wing attacks on science, schools, teachers, libraries, and books are the beginnings of an all-out war on rationalism.
Right-wing “traditionalists” are systematically deconstructing the infrastructure of modern consciousness.
We’ve seen this before in human history”
By destroying the mechanisms that enable free thought and foster scientific curiosity, the right-wing is clearing the ground for the expansion of superstition and emotionality as primary drivers of behavior.
They’re laying foundation for theocratic rule and cult mentality.
People who value scientific progress and freedom of ideas—regardless of their political preferences—must understand that we are not in a mere “culture war.”
We are in a battle for the very state of consciousness that we take for granted as our and our children’s birthrights.
Humanity has been here before many times.
When civilizations fall, so too do the consciousnesses that created them.
However, the current deconstruction of modern consciousness is being intentionally driven and accelerated by the very technologies that consciousness created.
Rome took two centuries to “fall.”
With the accelerative mechanisms being used to bring about the demolition of modern consciousness and the speed at which we’re seeing cult-like dynamics permeate culture, we are looking at mere decades at most if we don’t stop this process.
Traditionalist” extremists have already found this thread. They know and endorse what’s happening.
They rationalize this by falsely arguing liberalism and immigration have destroyed what they purport to value, failing to realize their nostalgic fantasies were never reality.
If you are on the left and believe we are immune to these processes, take a look at anti-rational consciousness—such as naturalist anti-science ideas and nostalgic fantasy—on the left as well.
The driving powers might be right-wing, but we are all vulnerable to the dynamics.
Even five years ago, would you have imagined we’d see entire states withdraw from the American Library Association?
What’s happening isn’t about “protecting children.”
It’s about transitioning away from a fact-based shared reality and into a solely “belief”based society. (She is talking about Missouri)
Look at the results of this poll (and then read the replies from people who don’t even “believe” the poll).
Trump’s attacks on news media and the Fox “News” operation operated in tandem to foster distrust of empirical reality and encourage cult-like dynamics on the right. (This poll shows that 71% believe what trump says is true)
The poll in question is a CBS news poll..
From CBS News about the poll…
“Why haven’t the indictments hurt?
In part it’s b/c Trump voters generally believe it's Trump who tells them the truth.
More than conservative media and their own friends & family.
Trump leads among those say it's very important a nominee is honest & trustworthy.”
Once again it’s not about age but what individuals believe regardless of their age. People of all ages are buying into that MAGA crap and many of these individuals vote.
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Post by huskergal on Aug 21, 2023 1:51:17 GMT
I want Biden to drop out. I do believe he has dementia.
These would be my top 3 picks:
Gavin Newsom - Governor of California
Pete Buttigieg
Gretchen Whitmer - Governor of Michigan
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 21, 2023 1:57:32 GMT
It's possible for boomers to not understand the financial challenges of younger generations and Trump supporters to be out of control with their war on wokeness, undermining democracy and other things. Both can be true at the same time.
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Post by RosieKat on Aug 21, 2023 13:30:29 GMT
There is this rumbling that this country needs to stop electing “old white guys”. I don't think OWGs should be excluded from consideration, just as I don't think ANY demographic should be excluded. But the fact is that we default to the OWG time and time again, election after election. And the further reality is that as a whole, we've been reluctant to elect anyone who isn't. Do I think we MUST elect someone who's not an OWG for president? No. But we need to get to the point where the majority of people will willingly consider a list of people meeting all types of sociological descriptors in making their decisions. Sometimes the best way to do that is by eliminating OWGs as possibilities for a while. |
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Post by wrongwayfeldman on Aug 21, 2023 15:41:24 GMT
I think best strategy, Biden will run and beat Trump and both men will be too old for any more terms, well, of course Biden can't run again and then let the new group in. I think America will be ready for anything besides old white men. There is a tiktok guy who has worked the numbers on how elections would go if only certain ages or genders voted. Based on those numbers and voting records, once the older generation is no longer the largest voting block, the ballgame is open for all viable candidates instead of just old white men. It's both shocking and hopeful. He also breaks down various demographic stats for red, purple, blue states including domestic abuse, SA, violence, education, etc. All I can say is vote blue based on that. I would love to find this tik tok account. Can you link it here or give us the user name? I find SO MUCH valid, up to date info on tik tok. It's amazing to me how much information I see there, that day or weeks later finally shows up on the local or national news. I love getting on the ground, up to the minute reports from people living the stories. |
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Post by Bridget in MD on Aug 21, 2023 17:01:19 GMT
I think best strategy, Biden will run and beat Trump and both men will be too old for any more terms, well, of course Biden can't run again and then let the new group in. I think America will be ready for anything besides old white men. There is a tiktok guy who has worked the numbers on how elections would go if only certain ages or genders voted. Based on those numbers and voting records, once the older generation is no longer the largest voting block, the ballgame is open for all viable candidates instead of just old white men. It's both shocking and hopeful. He also breaks down various demographic stats for red, purple, blue states including domestic abuse, SA, violence, education, etc. All I can say is vote blue based on that. I've seen that guy, his spreadsheets are great! |
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Post by papersilly on Aug 21, 2023 17:13:51 GMT
Unless something happens with his health, I don't think Biden will drop out. And unfortunately, he's sticking with Harris. He can't do anything about this age but he could replace his extremely unpopular VP. Whitmer would be the best choice of those listed. i agree with you. Whitmer would be great. i think Harris would make a better attorney general because law is more her wheelhouse. i think newsom will make a serious run in 2028. |
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 21, 2023 18:58:22 GMT
The Lincoln Project…
”No Labels claims that it seeks a moderate, middle-of-the-road candidate — but that middle-of-the-road candidate is already running for president. His name is Joe Biden."
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Post by casii on Aug 22, 2023 1:14:16 GMT
There is a tiktok guy who has worked the numbers on how elections would go if only certain ages or genders voted. Based on those numbers and voting records, once the older generation is no longer the largest voting block, the ballgame is open for all viable candidates instead of just old white men. It's both shocking and hopeful. He also breaks down various demographic stats for red, purple, blue states including domestic abuse, SA, violence, education, etc. All I can say is vote blue based on that. I would love to find this tik tok account. Can you link it here or give us the user name? I find SO MUCH valid, up to date info on tik tok. It's amazing to me how much information I see there, that day or weeks later finally shows up on the local or national news. I love getting on the ground, up to the minute reports from people living the stories. I'll try to find the one that broke down voting demographics but Nick Powers is another who has done similar spreadsheets and they're eye opening. Again, based on this info, if you value your quality of life, vote blue. Editing to add, PoliticaLens may be the other account with voter breakdowns. |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Aug 22, 2023 2:46:53 GMT
I’m not sure what the point of your post is. The bottom line is that my mom, in her 70’s, cannot understand the issues that are affecting younger generations. She thinks that because she was able to buy a house when she was young, everyone still can. She doesn’t understand that even with dual incomes, home ownership for two recent college graduates is still very out of reach. That’s the point. And that’s why we all say enough “old white guys…” we need leadership in our country that CAN understand it. The point that she is trying to make is that generalizing that "old white guys" can't understand those issues is faulty thinking. I know people who are in their 70's (like my parents) who are very in tune with the issues going on for people of all ages. I also know 30 year olds who don't. I think that Biden does understand those issues. I do wish he was younger just from a health standpoint, but I don't think that just because he is older, white and male means that he can't understand what others are going through and how the world has changed since he was younger. |
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 22, 2023 3:37:21 GMT
I’m not sure what the point of your post is. The bottom line is that my mom, in her 70’s, cannot understand the issues that are affecting younger generations. She thinks that because she was able to buy a house when she was young, everyone still can. She doesn’t understand that even with dual incomes, home ownership for two recent college graduates is still very out of reach. That’s the point. And that’s why we all say enough “old white guys…” we need leadership in our country that CAN understand it. The point that she is trying to make is that generalizing that "old white guys" can't understand those issues is faulty thinking. I know people who are in their 70's (like my parents) who are very in tune with the issues going on for people of all ages. I also know 30 year olds who don't. I think that Biden does understand those issues. I do wish he was younger just from a health standpoint, but I don't think that just because he is older, white and male means that he can't understand what others are going through and how the world has changed since he was younger. Thank you. I always appreciate it when someone says something better then what I’m thinking or saying as in this case. Just because someone is old doesn’t automatically mean they don’t “get” what’s going on around them. |
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Post by lucyg on Aug 22, 2023 3:49:18 GMT
OK boomer? All righty then.
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Post by kate on Aug 22, 2023 4:28:05 GMT
Now that he has some experience beyond South Bend, bring him on! Gen X here. "OK boomer" is just condescending & meritless. |
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Post by Gennifer on Aug 22, 2023 14:04:07 GMT
The point that she is trying to make is that generalizing that "old white guys" can't understand those issues is faulty thinking. I know people who are in their 70's (like my parents) who are very in tune with the issues going on for people of all ages. I also know 30 year olds who don't. I think that Biden does understand those issues. I do wish he was younger just from a health standpoint, but I don't think that just because he is older, white and male means that he can't understand what others are going through and how the world has changed since he was younger. As I stated earlier, “old white guys” refers to more than just Biden. I am not saying that older people cannot understand those issues individually. Of course they can. But, collectively, they should not be the ones running all three branches of our government when they are a minority of our citizenship. |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Aug 22, 2023 14:10:14 GMT
The point that she is trying to make is that generalizing that "old white guys" can't understand those issues is faulty thinking. I know people who are in their 70's (like my parents) who are very in tune with the issues going on for people of all ages. I also know 30 year olds who don't. I think that Biden does understand those issues. I do wish he was younger just from a health standpoint, but I don't think that just because he is older, white and male means that he can't understand what others are going through and how the world has changed since he was younger. As I stated earlier, “old white guys” refers to more than just Biden. I am not saying that older people cannot understand those issues individually. Of course they can. But, collectively, they should not be the ones running all three branches of our government when they are a minority of our citizenship. Personally, I find it offensive to stereotype and generalize groups of people like that. There are too many instances of that lately like people using “yt” or “old white guys” or “ok Boomer” and many others that I’m not thinking of right now. None are said in a way that is meant to be respectful to said group. |
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Post by lucyg on Aug 22, 2023 14:22:45 GMT
I want Biden to drop out. I do believe he has dementia. These would be my top 3 picks: Gavin Newsom - Governor of California Pete Buttigieg Gretchen Whitmer - Governor of Michigan You think the guy who conned the Republicans into publicly and loudly standing up for Social Security and Medicare at the State of the Union six months ago now has dementia? |
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Post by huskergal on Aug 22, 2023 16:21:46 GMT
I want Biden to drop out. I do believe he has dementia. These would be my top 3 picks: Gavin Newsom - Governor of California Pete Buttigieg Gretchen Whitmer - Governor of Michigan You think the guy who conned the Republicans into publicly and loudly standing up for Social Security and Medicare at the State of the Union six months ago now has dementia? I think he had dementia then. He appears to be at the beginning stages. |
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Post by Lurkingpea on Aug 22, 2023 16:57:47 GMT
You think the guy who conned the Republicans into publicly and loudly standing up for Social Security and Medicare at the State of the Union six months ago now has dementia? I think he had dementia then. He appears to be at the beginning stages. And you base this on what? I Will wager that there are a lot of peas that have experience with people in their lives who have dementia, We know there are a lot of nurses on this board. Interesting that nobody else other than the right wing unhinged peas seem to think that Biden has dementia. I'm assuming you haven't met the man so I'm just wondering why you're coming up with this diagnosis? |
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Post by lucyg on Aug 22, 2023 18:28:40 GMT
I think he had dementia then. He appears to be at the beginning stages. And you base this on what? I Will wager that there are a lot of peas that have experience with people in their lives who have dementia, We know there are a lot of nurses on this board. Interesting that nobody else other than the right wing unhinged peas seem to think that Biden has dementia. I'm assuming you haven't met the man so I'm just wondering why you're coming up with this diagnosis? isn’t a right-winger, though. ETA I don’t think it’s helpful to be posting on a public thread that he has dementia when we have no diagnosis and no strong evidence other than “we think.” *I* think he’s aging (we all slow down with age), but still in a very good place mentally. And sooooo much better than any Republican candidate. His administration has been quite successful so far. But I guarantee you, next year some right-wing pea will be posting that “diagnosis” and saying, “See? Even the libs think he has dementia!” |
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Post by Lurkingpea on Aug 22, 2023 18:30:16 GMT
And you base this on what? I Will wager that there are a lot of peas that have experience with people in their lives who have dementia, We know there are a lot of nurses on this board. Interesting that nobody else other than the right wing unhinged peas seem to think that Biden has dementia. I'm assuming you haven't met the man so I'm just wondering why you're coming up with this diagnosis? isn’t a right-winger, though. I know, that is why I am wondering what she is basing her opinion on. |
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Post by lucyg on Aug 22, 2023 18:36:58 GMT
I know, that is why I am wondering what she is basing her opinion on. I just added a bunch more to that post. Not that it changes anything.  |
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 22, 2023 20:07:12 GMT
I think similar to how we want kids to have access to books where they feel like they're represented, where they can see themselves, younger generations want politicians who represent them. Millennials & Gen Z want more than just old white guys, they want younger politicians and more diversity. Across all 3 branches of government. Seems reasonable for all generations to be represented, not disproportionally dominated by old white guys. Seems reasonable to want politicians who use technology newer than a flip phone and understand that Tik Tok does not refer to little mints.
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