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Post by morecowbell on Sept 10, 2023 6:43:20 GMT
Bolded part shows just how naive you are. If you believe that you really are clueless. I read that and couldn’t believe you are that clueless and thought you were rambling on about something else. Now I understand why you wouldn’t answer my question about discrimination l Your list lacked substance. By the way did you check and see what President Biden wanted VP Harris tackle when it comes to immigration? I said: If the one and only reason that comes to your mind that anyone might disagree with a black person is BECAUSE they are black, Let me get this straight... Are you seriously arguing that there is NOT one single other REASON whatsoever to disagree with a black person other than BECAUSE they are black? As in, if you are black, you are always, always, always right, BECAUSE you're black and no one could ever logically disagree with them? Seriously? I really need to know if that's the idea you're trying to push. To be clear, I did not say that there is no racism.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 10, 2023 14:29:51 GMT
Peter Doocy speaks about Biden!! Fox News White House correspondent Peter Doocy reported that President Joe Biden was "working through the night" despite constant attacks on his age. youtu.be/48fdvuRanzE?si=oUQ9gbwregpDO3oZ
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 10, 2023 16:12:09 GMT
If the ONLY possible issue Jemele or YOU can see about Kamala is that she's a black woman, then Nikki Haley is NOT the problem. There definitely could be other reasons besides racism. And I agree that some people jump to claiming racism or sexism way too quickly. However, it is a little suspect when someone makes a comment like Haley did and didn’t mention any reasons why a vote for Harris is so bad. Just that it is. And let’s face it, republicans don’t have the best track record when it comes to racism. It came across as a reminder to the base that if Biden is elected and has to step down, just remember who will be taking over…
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 10, 2023 16:29:10 GMT
If the ONLY possible issue Jemele or YOU can see about Kamala is that she's a black woman, then Nikki Haley is NOT the problem. There definitely could be other reasons besides racism. And I agree that some people jump to claiming racism or sexism way too quickly. However, it is a little suspect when someone makes a comment like Haley did and didn’t mention any reasons why a vote for Harris is so bad. Just that it is. And let’s face it, republicans don’t have the best track record when it comes to racism. It came across as a reminder to the base that if Biden is elected and has to step down, just remember who will be taking over… Harris is not a whole lot different from Haley who fought the racial comments made to her for years. She uses her middle name to avoid some of it! Both of Haley's parents were immigrants from India.
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Post by morecowbell on Sept 10, 2023 19:02:16 GMT
If the ONLY possible issue Jemele or YOU can see about Kamala is that she's a black woman, then Nikki Haley is NOT the problem. There definitely could be other reasons besides racism. And I agree that some people jump to claiming racism or sexism way too quickly. However, it is a little suspect when someone makes a comment like Haley did and didn’t mention any reasons why a vote for Harris is so bad. Just that it is. And let’s face it, republicans don’t have the best track record when it comes to racism. It came across as a reminder to the base that if Biden is elected and has to step down, just remember who will be taking over… Exactly. Especially from a person who sees racism EVERYWHERE including where it doesn't exist. For Jemele to accuse a woman of color of not wanting Kamala as president BECAUSE Kamala is a woman of color is dishonest and beyond moronic. No, it isn't suspect. Not even a little, teeny, tiny bit. There's a reason that Kamala's approval rating is so ridiculously low. There's a reason that her approval rating has dropped even within her own party.Everyone knows that Kamala is not up for the job of president. She can not even handle the job she's in. So Nikki Haley knew it didn't need to be spelled out. People who aren't pushing a racism agenda KNOW why it would be bad for the country to put someone so INCOMPETENT as Kamala, in charge of running the country. And they know it has absolutely not one damn thing to do with Kamala's skin or her gender. Not to anyone with the ability to employ logic.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 10, 2023 19:18:29 GMT
There definitely could be other reasons besides racism. And I agree that some people jump to claiming racism or sexism way too quickly. However, it is a little suspect when someone makes a comment like Haley did and didn’t mention any reasons why a vote for Harris is so bad. Just that it is. And let’s face it, republicans don’t have the best track record when it comes to racism. It came across as a reminder to the base that if Biden is elected and has to step down, just remember who will be taking over… Harris is not a whole lot different from Haley who fought the racial comments made to her for years. She uses her middle name to avoid some of it! Both of Haley's parents were immigrants from India. I recognize that. But the two of them are pretty different in terms of their racial identity. Kamala has not changed her name and identifies as a woman of color. Unlike Nikki Haley.
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Post by morecowbell on Sept 10, 2023 19:36:58 GMT
Harris is not a whole lot different from Haley who fought the racial comments made to her for years. She uses her middle name to avoid some of it! Both of Haley's parents were immigrants from India. I recognize that. But the two of them are pretty different in terms of their racial identity. Kamala has not changed her name and identifies as a woman of color. Unlike Nikki Haley. At the 2020 RNC "I am the proud daughter of Indian immigrants. They came to America and settled in a small southern town. My father wore a turban. My mother wore a sari. I was a brown girl in a black and white world. We faced discrimination and hardship, but my parents never gave into grievance and hate." "Haley's own race plays a major role in her announcement video — she leads off by talking about her own racial experience in the town of Bamberg, S.C."
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 10, 2023 20:16:35 GMT
And she belongs to and endorses a party that is attempting discount diversity and the lives of ALL Americans with all their different colors and heritages ...
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Post by lucyg on Sept 10, 2023 20:23:23 GMT
hmm. This: and this: and this: don’t seem to go with THIS:
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Post by morecowbell on Sept 10, 2023 20:38:23 GMT
hmm. This: and this: and this: don’t seem to go with THIS: Looks like calling out racist lies and bigotry that dilutes actual racism is my line in the sand. 🤔
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Post by lucyg on Sept 10, 2023 20:46:27 GMT
hmm. This: and this: and this: don’t seem to go with THIS: Looks like calling out racist lies and bigotry that dilutes actual racism is my line in the sand. 🤔 Perhaps the reason Jemele Hill and women like her see racism and sexism where you don’t ever seem to is that they have experienced it so much over the course of their lives. They might find it a little more recognizable than does someone like you, who is trying so hard not to recognize it. And the subject of my post was actually your hypocrisy. Not real or perceived racism.
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Post by morecowbell on Sept 10, 2023 21:14:12 GMT
Looks like calling out racist lies and bigotry that dilutes actual racism is my line in the sand. 🤔 Perhaps the reason Jemele Hill and women like her see racism and sexism where you don’t ever seem to is that they have experienced it so much over the course of their lives. They might find it a little more recognizable than does someone like you, who is trying so hard not to recognize it. And the subject of my post was actually your hypocrisy. Not real or perceived racism. Except there was no actual racism in this specific case with Nikki Haley. And that is backed up by facts. Yes, it's hypocritical to say if you can't contribute without personal attacks and then procede to employ personal attacks. When I wrote my signature, I had in mind the lies being stated about me, many having absolutely no relation to the topic being discussed. As in, if you cant contribute to the actual discussion and ONLY have personal attacks to contribute and nothing to contribute to the topic, then you aren’t really contributing to the discussion. At all. That isn't the case with my posts. Doesn't make it right, but that's where I'm at. My original statement was in reference to Jemele Hill saying racist/bigoted things about NikkiHaley. When you and onelasttime support her racist/bigoted statement, you get lumped in with her being a racist/bigot. So, like I said, I guess calling out racist lies and bigotry that dilutes actual racism is my line in the sand. 🤔
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 10, 2023 21:19:31 GMT
Perhaps the reason Jemele Hill and women like her see racism and sexism where you don’t ever seem to is that they have experienced it so much over the course of their lives. They might find it a little more recognizable than does someone like you, who is trying so hard not to recognize it. And the subject of my post was actually your hypocrisy. Not real or perceived racism. Except there was no actual racism in this specific case with Nikki Haley. And that is backed up by facts. Yes, it's hypocritical to say if you can't contribute without personal attacks and then procede to employ personal attacks. When I wrote my signature, I had in mind the lies being stated about me, many having absolutely no relation to the topic being discussed. As in, if you cant contribute to the actual discussion and ONLY have personal attacks to contribute and nothing to contribute to the topic, then you aren’t really contributing to the discussion. At all. That isn't the case with my posts. Doesn't make it right, but that's where I'm at. My original statement was in reference to Jemele Hill saying racist/bigoted things about NikkiHaley. When you and onelasttime support her racist/bigoted statement, you get lumped in with her being a racist/bigot. So, like I said, I guess calling out racist lies and bigotry that dilutes actual racism is my line in the sand. 🤔 What is your definition of racist or bigoted and how does that fit with Jemelle’s statement?
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Post by morecowbell on Sept 10, 2023 21:37:22 GMT
Except there was no actual racism in this specific case with Nikki Haley. And that is backed up by facts. Yes, it's hypocritical to say if you can't contribute without personal attacks and then procede to employ personal attacks. When I wrote my signature, I had in mind the lies being stated about me, many having absolutely no relation to the topic being discussed. As in, if you cant contribute to the actual discussion and ONLY have personal attacks to contribute and nothing to contribute to the topic, then you aren’t really contributing to the discussion. At all. That isn't the case with my posts. Doesn't make it right, but that's where I'm at. My original statement was in reference to Jemele Hill saying racist/bigoted things about NikkiHaley. When you and onelasttime support her racist/bigoted statement, you get lumped in with her being a racist/bigot. So, like I said, I guess calling out racist lies and bigotry that dilutes actual racism is my line in the sand. 🤔 What is your definition of racist or bigoted and how does that fit with Jemelle’s statement? I've said it at least 4 times now, but here it is again, just for clarity. If the only reason that comes to your mind for disagreeing with a black person is BECAUSE they are black, YOU are a big fat fucking racist and it should actually physically hurt to detract from and dilute ACTUAL racism with that dishonest bullshit.
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Post by lindas on Sept 10, 2023 22:09:34 GMT
Harris is not a whole lot different from Haley who fought the racial comments made to her for years. She uses her middle name to avoid some of it! Both of Haley's parents were immigrants from India. I recognize that. But the two of them are pretty different in terms of their racial identity. Kamala has not changed her name and identifies as a woman of color. Unlike Nikki Haley. Nikki Haley has not changed her name, Nikki is her middle name. A lot of people go by their middle name because they like it better, it’s easier to pronounce, whatever. I don’t get why people make such a big deal about it.
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 10, 2023 22:38:46 GMT
What is your definition of racist or bigoted and how does that fit with Jemelle’s statement? I've said it at least 4 times now, but here it is again, just for clarity. If the only reason that comes to your mind for disagreeing with a black person is BECAUSE they are black, YOU are a big fat fucking racist and it should actually physically hurt to detract from and dilute ACTUAL racism with that dishonest bullshit. “Wokeism is a term used to describe a social and political movement that seeks to address and correct social injustices, inequality, and discrimination. It emphasizes recognizing and challenging systemic issues, like racism, sexism, and other forms of oppression. The movement is associated with promoting empathy, inclusivity, and awareness of diverse perspectives.”I would be remiss if I did not point out that the Republican Party is the party of choice of the white nationalists. The Republican Party feels “WOKEISM” is a dirty word that is bad for our democracy. The Republican Party is the party that decided little white boys & girls can’t learn/handle this country’s history when it comes to slavery. I could go on but you get the drift. So when you consider the source and the fact they always seem to neglect to include specifics when making an accusation one could understand why someone would say what this Jemele said especially when talking not only about a woman but a black woman. Take off your rose colored glasses and look at what the Republican Party has become.
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Post by morecowbell on Sept 10, 2023 23:14:26 GMT
I've said it at least 4 times now, but here it is again, just for clarity. If the only reason that comes to your mind for disagreeing with a black person is BECAUSE they are black, YOU are a big fat fucking racist and it should actually physically hurt to detract from and dilute ACTUAL racism with that dishonest bullshit. “Wokeism is a term used to describe a social and political movement that seeks to address and correct social injustices, inequality, and discrimination. It emphasizes recognizing and challenging systemic issues, like racism, sexism, and other forms of oppression. The movement is associated with promoting empathy, inclusivity, and awareness of diverse perspectives.”I would be remiss if I did not point out that the Republican Party is the party of choice of the white nationalists. The Republican Party feels “WOKEISM” is a dirty word that is bad for our democracy. The Republican Party is the party that decided little white boys & girls can’t learn/handle this country’s history when it comes to slavery. I could go on but you get the drift. So when you consider the source and the fact they always seem to neglect to include specifics when making an accusation one could understand why someone would say what this Jemele said especially when talking not only about a woman but a black woman. Take off your rose colored glasses and look at what the Republican Party has become. Not in this specific instance, it is NOT understandable. Not even one teeny, tiny bit. There's a reason that Kamala's approval rating is so ridiculously low. There's a reason that her approval rating has dropped even within her own party.People can see that Kamala is not up for the job of president. She can not even handle the job she's in. That has absolutely not one damn thing to do with Kamala's skin or her gender. Stop pretending that it does. People who aren't pushing a racism agenda KNOW why it would be bad for the country to put someone so INCOMPETENT as Kamala, in charge of running the country. And they know it has absolutely not one damn thing to do with Kamala's skin or her gender. Stop pretending that it does. Stop using race as a weapon to discredit people when you don't have a true counter argument. Stop going along with a person who sees racism EVERYWHERE including where it doesn't exist. For Jemele to accuse a woman of color of not wanting Kamala as president BECAUSE Kamala is a woman of color is dishonest and beyond moronic. Stop going along with racism and bigotry because it makes YOU a racist bigot. ETA: And I don’t believe that to be the case.
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 11, 2023 0:37:35 GMT
“Wokeism is a term used to describe a social and political movement that seeks to address and correct social injustices, inequality, and discrimination. It emphasizes recognizing and challenging systemic issues, like racism, sexism, and other forms of oppression. The movement is associated with promoting empathy, inclusivity, and awareness of diverse perspectives.”I would be remiss if I did not point out that the Republican Party is the party of choice of the white nationalists. The Republican Party feels “WOKEISM” is a dirty word that is bad for our democracy. The Republican Party is the party that decided little white boys & girls can’t learn/handle this country’s history when it comes to slavery. I could go on but you get the drift. So when you consider the source and the fact they always seem to neglect to include specifics when making an accusation one could understand why someone would say what this Jemele said especially when talking not only about a woman but a black woman. Take off your rose colored glasses and look at what the Republican Party has become. Not in this specific instance, it is NOT understandable. Not even one teeny, tiny bit. There's a reason that Kamala's approval rating is so ridiculously low. There's a reason that her approval rating has dropped even within her own party.People can see that Kamala is not up for the job of president. She can not even handle the job she's in. That has absolutely not one damn thing to do with Kamala's skin or her gender. Stop pretending that it does. People who aren't pushing a racism agenda KNOW why it would be bad for the country to put someone so INCOMPETENT as Kamala, in charge of running the country. And they know it has absolutely not one damn thing to do with Kamala's skin or her gender. Stop pretending that it does. Stop using race as a weapon to discredit people when you don't have a true counter argument. Stop going along with a person who sees racism EVERYWHERE including where it doesn't exist. For Jemele to accuse a woman of color of not wanting Kamala as president BECAUSE Kamala is a woman of color is dishonest and beyond moronic. Stop going along with racism and bigotry because it makes YOU a racist bigot. I’m simply pointing out a reality in this country. Your laundry list from a previous of why Kamala Harris shouldn’t be president is kind of dumb to be honest. I’ve added my comments to it. ” Old what's her face? Seriously?
Some reasons people are not liking Kamala.
Reasons that have NOTHING to do with the color of her skin OR her gender.
Do you know this for a fact? Do you know what everyone thinks? Do you not think there is a racism problem in this country? You “attacked” poor Jemele and called him/her a bigot for stating what could very well be true. And now because I don’t discount what Jemele said you are one hair from calling me a bigot. Kamala can NOT answer a question effectively. She's asked a question like what are you going to do about situation A.When she answers it's always platitudes and round robin, bullshit that sounds like she's trying to do nothing more than up her word count.Something like:A community bank is called a community bank because it's in the community. We need banks in the community, because banks are needed in the community. So we'll get more community banks in the community because the community needs community banks.
That's not an exact quote but alarmingly close to exact. And it's so often that it can't be written off as just having a bad day here and there.
That alone shows shes not up to the JOB SHE'S IN, much less being the actual president.She bullshits her way through everything, including being called out for not doing the job required of her.
When tasked with the border crisis, she was interviewed by an accommodating journalist. It was stated that she had not gone to the border. (even the left-wing, accommodating journalist knew that being tasked with the border crisis would require going to the border)
I asked you once before do you know exactly what VP Harris was tasked with when it comes to immigration? What she is to tackle. I will give you a hint. More than a few countries in Europe face the same problem and they haven’t come up solution either. Her answer was that she hadn't gone to Europe yet, either. 🙄 Like a belligerent teenager, as if to say, so what. I'm not doing my job, so what. I wiiiiill, gah!!!
Earlier this year, 3 reporters at the New York Times wrote an article titled "Kamala Harris Is Trying to Define Her Vice Presidency. Even Her Allies Are Tired of Waiting."
Many of her staff quit in disgust, with complaints about Kamala and her inability to do the job.
Unfortunately that has been said about woman when it comes to supervising or working for. But not a reason one should not be president. I worked for a woman that my supervisor told me I should receive hazardous duty pay for working with her. I did it for 14 years. At one point I ended up telling her not to scare my assistants because I wanted them to work directly with her if I was out of the office. Other Account Managers that work on her accounts were never happy. But never once did I ask not to work on her accounts. She was good at what she did and cared about her clients. And we made it work. NONE of that has ANYTHING to do with her being black OR woman.Since you've spoken about those issues and dismissed them, I know you're aware of those issues. So your inability to come up with anything other than her gender, the color of her skin and where she lived are among the things that make you go hmmm. 🤔”What I can’t understand is why you are spending so much time and energy defending today’s version of the Republican Party? That you don’t believe their actions are a direct attack on democracy. I just don’t get it.
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Post by morecowbell on Sept 11, 2023 0:59:45 GMT
Not in this specific instance, it is NOT understandable. Not even one teeny, tiny bit. There's a reason that Kamala's approval rating is so ridiculously low. There's a reason that her approval rating has dropped even within her own party.People can see that Kamala is not up for the job of president. She can not even handle the job she's in. That has absolutely not one damn thing to do with Kamala's skin or her gender. Stop pretending that it does. People who aren't pushing a racism agenda KNOW why it would be bad for the country to put someone so INCOMPETENT as Kamala, in charge of running the country. And they know it has absolutely not one damn thing to do with Kamala's skin or her gender. Stop pretending that it does. Stop using race as a weapon to discredit people when you don't have a true counter argument. Stop going along with a person who sees racism EVERYWHERE including where it doesn't exist. For Jemele to accuse a woman of color of not wanting Kamala as president BECAUSE Kamala is a woman of color is dishonest and beyond moronic. Stop going along with racism and bigotry because it makes YOU a racist bigot. I’m simply pointing out a reality in this country. Your laundry list from a previous of why Kamala Harris shouldn’t be president is kind of dumb to be honest. I’ve added my comments to it. ” Old what's her face? Seriously?
Some reasons people are not liking Kamala.
Reasons that have NOTHING to do with the color of her skin OR her gender.
Do you know this for a fact? Do you know what everyone thinks? Do you not think there is a racism problem in this country? You “attacked” poor Jemele and called him/her a bigot for stating what could very well be true. And now because I don’t discount what Jemele said you are one hair from calling me a bigot. Kamala can NOT answer a question effectively. She's asked a question like what are you going to do about situation A.When she answers it's always platitudes and round robin, bullshit that sounds like she's trying to do nothing more than up her word count.Something like:A community bank is called a community bank because it's in the community. We need banks in the community, because banks are needed in the community. So we'll get more community banks in the community because the community needs community banks.
That's not an exact quote but alarmingly close to exact. And it's so often that it can't be written off as just having a bad day here and there.
That alone shows shes not up to the JOB SHE'S IN, much less being the actual president.She bullshits her way through everything, including being called out for not doing the job required of her.
When tasked with the border crisis, she was interviewed by an accommodating journalist. It was stated that she had not gone to the border. (even the left-wing, accommodating journalist knew that being tasked with the border crisis would require going to the border)
I asked you once before do you know exactly what VP Harris was tasked with when it comes to immigration? What she is to tackle. I will give you a hint. More than a few countries in Europe face the same problem and they haven’t come up solution either. Her answer was that she hadn't gone to Europe yet, either. 🙄 Like a belligerent teenager, as if to say, so what. I'm not doing my job, so what. I wiiiiill, gah!!!
Earlier this year, 3 reporters at the New York Times wrote an article titled "Kamala Harris Is Trying to Define Her Vice Presidency. Even Her Allies Are Tired of Waiting."
Many of her staff quit in disgust, with complaints about Kamala and her inability to do the job.
Unfortunately that has been said about woman when it comes to supervising or working for. But not a reason one should not be president. I worked for a woman that my supervisor told me I should receive hazardous duty pay for working with her. I did it for 14 years. At one point I ended up telling her not to scare my assistants because I wanted them to work directly with her if I was out of the office. Other Account Managers that work on her accounts were never happy. But never once did I ask not to work on her accounts. She was good at what she did and cared about her clients. And we made it work. NONE of that has ANYTHING to do with her being black OR woman.Since you've spoken about those issues and dismissed them, I know you're aware of those issues. So your inability to come up with anything other than her gender, the color of her skin and where she lived are among the things that make you go hmmm. 🤔”What I can’t understand is why you are spending so much time and energy defending today’s version of the Republican Party? That you don’t believe their actions are a direct attack on democracy. I just don’t get it. You insisted and for some reason, continue to insist that the ONLY reason someone could disagree with Kamala is BECAUSE of the color of her skin and her gender. You asked what other reason could it possibly be. I gave you reasons that people, including people in her own party, don't think she's up for the job. You dismissed the reasons and went back to pushing that it must be her skin and/or gender. You might not agree with the reasons, but they ARE the reasons and they do NOT have to do with her skin or gender. No matter how much you insist. There is no possibility of you accepting any answer you get on any question you ask. So there's no reason left to answer your questions.
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 11, 2023 2:25:36 GMT
I’m simply pointing out a reality in this country. Your laundry list from a previous of why Kamala Harris shouldn’t be president is kind of dumb to be honest. I’ve added my comments to it. ” Old what's her face? Seriously?
Some reasons people are not liking Kamala.
Reasons that have NOTHING to do with the color of her skin OR her gender.
Do you know this for a fact? Do you know what everyone thinks? Do you not think there is a racism problem in this country? You “attacked” poor Jemele and called him/her a bigot for stating what could very well be true. And now because I don’t discount what Jemele said you are one hair from calling me a bigot. Kamala can NOT answer a question effectively. She's asked a question like what are you going to do about situation A.When she answers it's always platitudes and round robin, bullshit that sounds like she's trying to do nothing more than up her word count.Something like:A community bank is called a community bank because it's in the community. We need banks in the community, because banks are needed in the community. So we'll get more community banks in the community because the community needs community banks.
That's not an exact quote but alarmingly close to exact. And it's so often that it can't be written off as just having a bad day here and there.
That alone shows shes not up to the JOB SHE'S IN, much less being the actual president.She bullshits her way through everything, including being called out for not doing the job required of her.
When tasked with the border crisis, she was interviewed by an accommodating journalist. It was stated that she had not gone to the border. (even the left-wing, accommodating journalist knew that being tasked with the border crisis would require going to the border)
I asked you once before do you know exactly what VP Harris was tasked with when it comes to immigration? What she is to tackle. I will give you a hint. More than a few countries in Europe face the same problem and they haven’t come up solution either. Her answer was that she hadn't gone to Europe yet, either. 🙄 Like a belligerent teenager, as if to say, so what. I'm not doing my job, so what. I wiiiiill, gah!!!
Earlier this year, 3 reporters at the New York Times wrote an article titled "Kamala Harris Is Trying to Define Her Vice Presidency. Even Her Allies Are Tired of Waiting."
Many of her staff quit in disgust, with complaints about Kamala and her inability to do the job.
Unfortunately that has been said about woman when it comes to supervising or working for. But not a reason one should not be president. I worked for a woman that my supervisor told me I should receive hazardous duty pay for working with her. I did it for 14 years. At one point I ended up telling her not to scare my assistants because I wanted them to work directly with her if I was out of the office. Other Account Managers that work on her accounts were never happy. But never once did I ask not to work on her accounts. She was good at what she did and cared about her clients. And we made it work. NONE of that has ANYTHING to do with her being black OR woman.Since you've spoken about those issues and dismissed them, I know you're aware of those issues. So your inability to come up with anything other than her gender, the color of her skin and where she lived are among the things that make you go hmmm. 🤔”What I can’t understand is why you are spending so much time and energy defending today’s version of the Republican Party? That you don’t believe their actions are a direct attack on democracy. I just don’t get it. You insisted and for some reason, continue to insist that the ONLY reason someone could disagree with Kamala is BECAUSE of the color of her skin and her gender. You asked what other reason could it possibly be. I gave you reasons that people, including people in her own party, don't think she's up for the job. You dismissed the reasons and went back to pushing that it must be her skin and/or gender. You might not agree with the reasons, but they ARE the reasons and they do NOT have to do with her skin or gender. No matter how much you insist. There is no possibility of you accepting any answer you get on any question you ask. So there's no reason left to answer your questions. Once again I said what Jemele said was possible in this country because we do have a racism problem. Let me repeat it. Once again I said what Jemele said was possible in this country because we do have a racism problem. Do I need to repeat it a third time or do you finally get it? As to your list of why Harris would not be a good president it’s a joke. If you honestly believe they are legitimate reasons well I had better not say what I’m thinking because it’s not nice. As to not accepting any answers, its just because you do not make your case. Based on other responses you get I’m not the only one who thinks so. Anyway you are right, it’s time to end this. Time to go back watching the original Equalizer TV series from the 1980’s. That was before cell phones so every time the “hero’s” need to make a call when they are outside they have to use pay phones.
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Post by morecowbell on Sept 11, 2023 3:25:50 GMT
You insisted and for some reason, continue to insist that the ONLY reason someone could disagree with Kamala is BECAUSE of the color of her skin and her gender. You asked what other reason could it possibly be. I gave you reasons that people, including people in her own party, don't think she's up for the job. You dismissed the reasons and went back to pushing that it must be her skin and/or gender. You might not agree with the reasons, but they ARE the reasons and they do NOT have to do with her skin or gender. No matter how much you insist. There is no possibility of you accepting any answer you get on any question you ask. So there's no reason left to answer your questions. Once again I said what Jemele said was possible in this country because we do have a racism problem. Let me repeat it. Once again I said what Jemele said was possible in this country because we do have a racism problem. Do I need to repeat it a third time or do you finally get it? As to your list of why Harris would not be a good president it’s a joke. If you honestly believe they are legitimate reasons well I had better not say what I’m thinking because it’s not nice. As to not accepting any answers, its just because you do not make your case. Based on other responses you get I’m not the only one who thinks so. Anyway you are right, it’s time to end this. Time to go back watching the original Equalizer TV series from the 1980’s. That was before cell phones so every time the “hero’s” need to make a call when they are outside they have to use pay phones. FACT: Way too often she dismisses the question in some bizarre way -or ALARMINGLY way too often, her answers turn out like this: "We invested an additional $12 billion into COMMUNITY banks, because we know COMMUNITY banks are in the COMMUNITY, and understand the needs and desires of that COMMUNITY as well as the talent and capacity of COMMUNITY. And so for years we have worked to expand investment in COMMUNITY banks because, you see, COMMUNITY banks specialize in providing loans and financial assistance to small business owners, in particular those in overlooked and underserved COMMUNITIES. And as the name suggests, COMMUNITY banks are in the COMMUNITY." Fact: It's SO often that it can't be written off as just having a bad day here and there. Fact: Her answer to not going to the border was that she hadn't gone to Europe yet, either. 🙄 Fact: Earlier this year, 3 reporters at the New York Times wrote an article titled "Kamala Harris Is Trying to Define Her Vice Presidency. Even Her Allies Are Tired of Waiting." Fact: Many of her staff quit in disgust, with complaints about Kamala and her inability to do the job. Fact: too many people see that she’s not up to the JOB SHE'S IN, much less being the actual president. FACT: Those are some of the reasons that her approval rating is so low and has dropped even within her own party. FACT: Not one of those reasons have ANYTHING to do with her skin OR her gender. I "made my case" just fine. You pretending that I didn't, doesn't make it true. Just like you pretending you don't understand the concept of a metaphor and all the other times you refuse to acknowledge facts. Nobody says you have to agree with them, but that doesn't make them go away.
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Post by hop2 on Sept 11, 2023 20:29:59 GMT
I have a question. There is this rumbling that this country needs to stop electing “old white guys”. I have been pondering what President Biden has accomplished in spite of the voters not doing their job. So when one talks about electing a younger person to be president what specifically do you think they would address what President Biden hasn’t? To me the most important thing when electing a president is can they do the job. Something that became very important after the idiots of this country elected trump. I have nothing against electing a younger person to be president. In 2020 I voted for Pete Buttigieg in the CA primary. But I’m told that a person who I think can do a good job as President can’t win because he’s gay. How stupid is that? As to doing something about Manchin & Sinema what specifically do you think President Biden should have done? The only things I can complain about are 1) voting rights bills not being passed 2) women’s rights & bodily autonomy not being codified & protected 3) not getting congresses grubby, greedy, insider trading hands off the stock market ( and my Dem senators voted against this and haven’t answered my email ) 4 ) the Postal Service is still lead by DeJoy 5) there’s still a FAR right wing conservative Supreme Court but he hasn’t had any opportunities to do anything about that Biden couldn’t accomplish any of these without them getting thru the House & Senate & with 2 democratic turncoats in the senate it was not possible. I don’t have too many issues with what Biden has accomplished but I’d still rather a younger person doing the job. I have no issue with VP Harris doing her current job OR taking the POTUS if need be. I’m even more tired
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Post by samantha25 on Sept 12, 2023 4:24:04 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 13, 2023 17:22:19 GMT
See I’m not the only who believes this. This comes because of an OP in the Washington Post by one David Ignatius. He made the mistake of being on MSNBC and Clair McCaskill took him to task about saying Kamala Harris was a liability with no specifics and should be replaced as VP by LA Mayor Karen Bass another black woman. Who is having her own problems in LA. Watch it here… x.com/harrisonjaime/status/1702000462080233770?s=61&t=j45uMgNk1i8O0YllKF58nwMeanwhile Christina Reynolds did a thread.. “ Worth watching--@clairecmc notes that the people who complain about the VP don't have details or specifics to offer. It's as if, as @jmpalmieri notes about powerful women, "there's something about her I just don't like."
A little thread on what that something is...Too many pundits are trying to apply all the same rules and standards to VP Harris when she is the first VP like her. They ignore the fact that coverage and online traffic/disinformation about her is different than the men who came before her. These things could be impacting her approval ratings, but don't mean she's not a great leader. They also ignore that, like Clinton before her, women are often liked for the work they do, but not when they're trying to get the next job or showing ambition. More importantly, national columnists, pundits, etc., ignore the work she's done in lifting up issues and communities incredibly important to key voters Democrats will need to keep the White House. She has traveled the country talking about abortion rights, voting rights, gun violence protection, democracy reform and other key issues. Her work and her powerful voice keep these issues in the press, reminding voters of the importance of this election. She's an asset to the ticket and the country.“
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