MerryMom
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Post by MerryMom on Oct 17, 2023 1:05:15 GMT
As someone who lives in the Ohio-4th district, if Jim (aka Gym) Jordan becomes Speaker, get ready for the sh*t show.
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Post by freecharlie on Oct 17, 2023 1:18:17 GMT
He is gross
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Post by aj2hall on Oct 17, 2023 1:34:47 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 17, 2023 1:46:57 GMT
He has made some unsavory deals to get votes..
BRIBES??
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Post by hopemax on Oct 17, 2023 1:54:45 GMT
I don't think enough Americans really understand this. We are legitimately facing multiple situations that if the dominos fall wrong the World is in WWIII. And the 3rd in line for the American Presidency, and one of the people responsible for determining if or if not the US declares war is someone who turned a blind eye to sexual abuse and was a key person involved in the plot to overthrow the US Presidential election. He's bad, but if that's not enough 220 other Republicans are allowing a person of this character hold that position of power. It's a 'Crossing the Rubicon' moment, even if nothing critical happens during his Speakership.
It's perhaps a weird thing to include in a discussion of this magnitude, but you know in The Princess Bride when Inigo tells Fezzik to jog the memory of the Albino. Fezzik complies, and the Albino keels over and says, "I didn't mean to jog him so hard." That's what I keep thinking we're going to hear when the inevitable happens. Everyone is so concerned about getting their hits in for political gain, that when the whole thing keels over... everyone will be unprepared for the results.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Oct 17, 2023 3:32:03 GMT
I really hope that enough stand up to him. I know there are many that have said never Jordan but they are under a lot of pressure. It would be disastrous if he gets elected. It’s bad enough that there are a few extreme people in congress but it would be even worse for him in this position. God help us.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 17, 2023 3:34:19 GMT
I believe Rogers caved and a woman who said, "Hell NO!!" and four days later, Monday, sure I'll vote Jordan.. *** When NBC News' Scott Wong, on October 12, asked Rep. Ann Wagner (R-Missouri) if she would support Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) for House speaker, she said she was a firm "Hell no." But four days later, on Monday morning, October 16, the GOP congresswoman did a total flip-flop and announced that she would vote to confirm Jordan as speaker. www.rawstory.com/gop-lawmaker-who-was-a-hell-no-on-jim-jordan-speaker-nomination-flip-flops-and-offers-fu/ |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 17, 2023 3:40:46 GMT
More...
They've supposedly been told they will not get dollars for their campaigns if they don't toe the line!!
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Post by mollycoddle on Oct 17, 2023 9:37:50 GMT
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MerryMom
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Post by MerryMom on Oct 17, 2023 14:14:16 GMT
www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/jim-jordan-speaker-race-trump-endorsement-2020-election-rcna120605Even as a mob was ransacking the U.S. Capitol that Jan. 6, Trump’s allies were still trying to persuade Jordan to keep delaying the Electoral College vote count. We know Trump and Jordan spoke that day. We don’t know what they talked about — but that’s not because he hasn’t been asked. Jordan received a subpoena from the Jan. 6 committee to testify about his role in trying to overturn the election. He refused to comply, preferring to slam the investigation as a partisan sham. And instead of punishing him for undercutting the House’s authority, Republicans instead granted him the chairmanship of the Judiciary Committee this year. Now they may soon put him in charge of the entire chamber. Jordan can’t be counted on as an ally of democracy. This is all to say that there’s a reason Jordan was the speaker candidate who gained Trump’s endorsement. He’s the one who has been the most fiercely loyal to Trump even when it was clear that loyalty to him was wrong. Trump supports Jordan because he knows Jordan stood by him even though the evidence is clear that he’d lost. Trump even awarded him the Presidential Medal of Freedom for his efforts to subvert the will of the American people. He will expect that token to be repaid to the best of Jordan’s ability in 2024, especially when any Electoral College tally that results in nobody getting a majority means the House would determine the winner.
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casii
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Post by casii on Oct 17, 2023 16:05:30 GMT
Republicans are an embarrassment, but more to the point, they're dangerous. I don't want to hear a GD word from people who vote for them about being the party of morals, values, small government or anything remotely resembling sanity. The both sides argument is absolutely off the table.
Jim Jordan has passed nothing in the House. He was a torch bearer for treason on J6. If anything, he should pass go and head straight to jail.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Oct 17, 2023 16:40:00 GMT
That was my first thought too. That’s why trump wants him in power so bad. He knows he will do whatever he asks. |
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Post by papersilly on Oct 17, 2023 17:17:46 GMT
there are already 6 votes against jordan and we're just in the letter "G" of voting.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 17, 2023 17:51:40 GMT
Lost first round!!
Jordan 200... Jeffries 212...
Mccarthy 6... Scalise 7...
Other 7...
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Post by mikklynn on Oct 17, 2023 17:51:54 GMT
Senator John Fetterman was on The Late Show last week. He talked about how people are worried about his hoodie when the Republican party nearly shut down the government.
They are a mess.
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casii
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Post by casii on Oct 17, 2023 17:54:37 GMT
Senator John Fetterman was on The Late Show last week. He talked about how people are worried about his hoodie when the Republican party nearly shut down the government. They are a mess. He also said voters weren't sending their best people and he's right. |
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Post by mikklynn on Oct 17, 2023 17:57:01 GMT
Senator John Fetterman was on The Late Show last week. He talked about how people are worried about his hoodie when the Republican party nearly shut down the government. They are a mess. He also said voters weren't sending their best people and he's right. Yes! How the HELL did we end up with George Santos? And why hasn't he been removed? Rhetorical questions. |
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Post by papersilly on Oct 17, 2023 18:26:11 GMT
Yes! How the HELL did we end up with George Santos? And why hasn't he been removed? Rhetorical questions. Also.... bobert green gaetz |
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pinklady
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Post by pinklady on Oct 17, 2023 18:26:23 GMT
I don't think enough Americans really understand this. We are legitimately facing multiple situations that if the dominos fall wrong the World is in WWIII. And the 3rd in line for the American Presidency, and one of the people responsible for determining if or if not the US declares war is someone who turned a blind eye to sexual abuse and was a key person involved in the plot to overthrow the US Presidential election. He's bad, but if that's not enough 220 other Republicans are allowing a person of this character hold that position of power. It's a 'Crossing the Rubicon' moment, even if nothing critical happens during his Speakership. Let's just be completely honest, a majority of Americans are low IQ and lack critical thinking skills. That's why we are where we are in this country. When is everyone going to admit this 200+ year experiment has failed. The morons in this country want a reality show not a well run government. I'm not saying Democrats don't have their faulty representatives because there are a few but pretty much ALL the Republicans and their ilk want our country to fail. They openly advocate for it and their voters revel in it. And the republicans who see the horror of their party, quit because it's too hard to fight against their own. And they still lick the ass of the orange menace on the way out. Look at Romney. He knows and is just letting it happen instead of crossing the aisle on his way out. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 17, 2023 18:34:59 GMT
McCarthy raised his voice with a FOX reporter because the reporter didn't agree with him.. McCarthy still blames the Democrats for voting him out.. well what about his EIGHT Republicans who voted against him??!??! youtu.be/cLbHOxEjlfY?si=vnzyBFMC0AjbSf04 |
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Post by Scrapper100 on Oct 17, 2023 19:17:30 GMT
He also said voters weren't sending their best people and he's right. Yes! How the HELL did we end up with George Santos? And why hasn't he been removed? Rhetorical questions. Seriously if he was a democrat the right would go nuts and he would have been out by now as the democrats wouldn’t have tolerated him. |
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Post by Scrapper100 on Oct 17, 2023 19:19:23 GMT
I don't think enough Americans really understand this. We are legitimately facing multiple situations that if the dominos fall wrong the World is in WWIII. And the 3rd in line for the American Presidency, and one of the people responsible for determining if or if not the US declares war is someone who turned a blind eye to sexual abuse and was a key person involved in the plot to overthrow the US Presidential election. He's bad, but if that's not enough 220 other Republicans are allowing a person of this character hold that position of power. It's a 'Crossing the Rubicon' moment, even if nothing critical happens during his Speakership. Let's just be completely honest, a majority of Americans are low IQ and lack critical thinking skills. That's why we are where we are in this country. When is everyone going to admit this 200+ year experiment has failed. The morons in this country want a reality show not a well run government. I'm not saying Democrats don't have their faulty representatives because there are a few but pretty much ALL the Republicans and their ilk want our country to fail. They openly advocate for it and their voters revel in it. And the republicans who see the horror of their party, quit because it's too hard to fight against their own. And they still lick the ass of the orange menace on the way out. Look at Romney. He knows and is just letting it happen instead of crossing the aisle on his way out. I was hoping that he would since he isn’t running again. Makes you lose your respect for him. |
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Post by Gem Girl on Oct 17, 2023 21:47:07 GMT
It was the first thing I thought of. DH tried to talk me down by saying that the Dems are going to sweep in before that time, but still. Things that can go wrong, often do. The second thing I thought of was how utterly unfit Jordan is in every conceivable way. He ignored a Congressional subpoena, helped with an insurrection, has never initiated successful legislation, and turned a blind eye to purported child abuse. What have we come to? |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 18, 2023 16:37:05 GMT
Jordan 199... Jeffries 212...
Mccarthy 5... Scalise 7...
Other 10...
Jordan looking to do worse then yesterday...
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Post by aj2hall on Oct 18, 2023 19:55:07 GMT
2 steps forward, 4 steps back for Jordan www.nytimes.com/live/2023/10/18/us/house-speaker-vote-jim-jordanRepresentative Jim Jordan, the hard-line Republican from Ohio, lost a second bid for speaker on Wednesday after running headlong into opposition from a bloc of mainstream G.O.P. holdouts.
After he failed to win a majority on Tuesday, Mr. Jordan was defeated again when the number of Republicans refusing to back him grew by two. The result left the House in turmoil, still leaderless after two weeks of Republican infighting.
After holding one failed speaker vote at 11 a.m., the House is now done for the day. There will be no more votes today, and lawmakers plan to reconvene for another vote tomorrow, according to a person familiar with the schedule.
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Post by aj2hall on Oct 18, 2023 20:03:58 GMT
Aguilar's nomination of Jeffries for Speaker was on point and he tore Jordan apart calling him a legislative terrorist. heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/october-17-2023-tuesday?r=1f0orz&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email Representative Pete Aguilar (D-CA) previewed the many downsides of Jordan as speaker when he nominated Democratic minority leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) for the speaker’s chair. Aguilar blamed extremism and partisanship for the unprecedented chaos of the House and urged the Republicans to embrace bipartisanship to do the work the American people had sent them to Washington, D.C., to conduct.
Aguilar noted that Jordan was “the architect of a nationwide abortion ban, a vocal election denier, and an insurrection inciter.” He has “spent his entire career trying to hold our country back, putting our national security in danger, attempting government shutdown after government shutdown, wasting taxpayer dollars on baseless investigations with dead ends, authoring the very bill that would ban abortion nationwide without exceptions, and inciting violence on this chamber. Even leaders of his own party have called him ‘a legislative terrorist.’”
Aguilar pointed out Jordan’s opposition to disaster relief, veterans’ relief, support for Ukraine, and military aid to our allies, including Israel, and added: “This body is debating elevating a speaker nominee who has not passed a single bill in 16 years. These are not the actions of someone interested in governing or bettering the lives of everyday Americans.” Jordan as speaker would mean the Republican Party would “continue taking marching orders from a twice-impeached former president with more than 90 pending felony charges.”
Even without mentioning Jordan’s involvement with the cover-up of a sexual assault scandal at Ohio State, Aguilar put Republicans on notice that placing Jordan at the head of the party would have brutal consequences in Democratic campaign ads.
When House members voted for speaker, the Democrats were unified behind Jeffries, who won all 212 of their votes. Jordan won only 200 of the 217 votes necessary to become speaker, with 20 Republicans voting for someone else. His allies initially said they would call a second vote tonight but changed their minds, apparently realizing that another loss would weaken his candidacy significantly. They say they will hold another vote tomorrow.thehill.com/homenews/house/4260761-aguilar-jordan-speaker-nomination-jeffries/Rep. Pete Aguilar (D-Calif.) blasted Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) in an impassioned speech nominating Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) for Speaker on the House floor Tuesday.
“A vote today to make the architect of a nationwide abortion ban, a vocal election denier and an insurrection insider to the Speaker of this house would be a terrible message to the country and our allies,” Aguilar said, speaking of Jordan.“Mr. Speaker, it would send an even more troubling message to our enemies, that the very people who would seek to undermine democracy are rewarded with positions of immense power,” he continued.
He ripped the GOP’s Speaker nominee for putting the country’s national security at risk, for his role in not certifying the 2020 election results and for launching “baseless investigations.” Jordan has been a leading figure in House impeachment probes into President Biden and his son Hunter.
“We’re talking about someone who has spent his entire career trying to hold our country back, putting our national security in danger, attempting government shutdown after government shutdown, wasting taxpayer dollars on baseless investigations with dead ends, authoring the very bill that would ban abortion nationwide without exceptions and inciting violence on this chamber,” Aguilar said.
“Even leaders of his own party have called him a legislative terrorist,” he added.
That monicker was once used by former Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) to describe Jordan.
Aguilar also took aim at Jordan for voting no on a series of legislative action, including approving natural disaster relief in states after they were ravaged by hurricanes and wildfires. When listing examples of what legislative action Jordan opposed, some Democrats appeared to join in chorus, saying “he said no” along with Aguilar.
“When the Mississippi River floods devastated the South and communities across state lines needed Congress to act, he said no,” he said. “When our veterans were suffering from disease and dying as a result of their service to our country and Congress passed a bipartisan solution, he said no.”
The California Democrat criticized the House for considering electing a member “who has not passed a single bill in 16 years.”
Aguilar called on the House to find a bipartisan way forward, accusing Republicans of throwing the House into “chaos” by failing to come to a consensus on a new Speaker. He said that they are gathered to vote on a new leader because “this hallowed chamber has been led to a breaking point by two dangerous forces — extremism and partisanship.”
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Post by librarylady on Oct 18, 2023 21:20:41 GMT
I do hope everyone in the House of Representatives realizes how UNFIT he is for office, let alone Speaker of the House.
He failed twice today, let us hope that overnight the rest of the House comes to its senses and votes no again.
He is UNFIT for the job!
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Post by PLurker on Oct 19, 2023 3:08:13 GMT
I do hope everyone in the House of Representatives realizes how UNFIT he is for office, let alone Speaker of the House.
He failed twice today, let us hope that overnight the rest of the House comes to its senses and votes no again.
He is UNFIT for the job!
Yeah, that. ☝️ He is damn close to being unfit as a human being. And that may be being generous. |
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Post by melanieg on Oct 19, 2023 16:35:20 GMT
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Post by maryannscraps on Oct 19, 2023 20:41:13 GMT
Well, that changed fast. By the time the news was released he was already walking it back and saying there will be another vote tomorrow (Friday). |
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