huskergal
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Post by huskergal on Jan 31, 2024 0:02:33 GMT
Just wondering what Peas thought about dress codes at public schools.
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Post by allison1954 on Jan 31, 2024 0:06:04 GMT
That could mean anything from uniforms s to just no tshirts with foul language .
So really hard to say
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Post by katlady on Jan 31, 2024 0:09:41 GMT
If you mean a uniform, I'll say no. If you mean certain types of clothing are ok or not ok, then yes.
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Post by ntsf on Jan 31, 2024 0:11:11 GMT
A dress code should be no nudity, and not much else.
it can be a slippy slope of control to some vague external standard of dress
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Post by littlemama on Jan 31, 2024 0:12:06 GMT
I think a basic- no vulgar language on clothing policy is fine.
I think policing what girls wear instead of teaching boys to respect women's rights to their own bodies is not.
So, depends
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katybee
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Post by katybee on Jan 31, 2024 0:13:07 GMT
Yes. BUT…the dress code should be the exact same for boys and girls. And nothing should be based on whether or not it will distract the boys. It should be primarily for safety, and then just out of general respect for everyone (foul language, gang stuff, racism, etc).
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Post by kate on Jan 31, 2024 0:16:31 GMT
I voted yes - if there is a dress code, then it should be enforced. Otherwise, don't bother having one.
What should a dress code say? That's a realllly complicated question. Not touching that one here!
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Post by Merge on Jan 31, 2024 0:16:31 GMT
It’s common for schools here to have standardized dress (like uniforms, but more flexible). For example, my kids had to wear a red or blue polo and khaki bottoms to elementary school. Middle school required the school’s purple logo shirt and jeans. So I don’t really have a problem with it. It definitely made outfit decisions easier and it eliminated gender-based policing as the required elements were largely gender neutral.
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seaexplore
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Post by seaexplore on Jan 31, 2024 0:25:59 GMT
Yes to a dress code because no one wants to see your ass cheeks hanging out (boys and girls) the top or the bottom of your bottoms or your chest (boys and girls) all on display and no gang/violence/guns/alcohol/drug/profanity images.
I could get behind standardized colors/style of pants and standardized colors/style of tops too. I think it’s less distracting all around because kids are so hung up on brands.
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Post by smasonnc on Jan 31, 2024 0:45:22 GMT
I think policing what girls wear instead of teaching boys to respect women's rights to their own bodies is not. Exactly. I would applaud a rule that prohibits one's ass hanging out of their pants whether from the top or bottom. My daughter, a very conservative dresser, straight-arrow, good student type, went to a school where the dress code was very draconian. An assistant principal rode around in a golf cart all day looking for violations and she wrote detentions with great glee when she found one. Girls couldn't show any collarbone, so a v-neck or scoop-neck tee shirt was in violation, even if it didn't show cleavage. DD got a detention when she was wearing a blazer for dress-up day because there was a scoop neck tee under it. She looked like a teacher. She got another one for a dress that was 3/4" above the knee. When she showed up at detention, the teacher thought she was just kidding. So absurd. She wore the same dress to receive an academic award and there was nothing they could do about it. You can understand why I'm pretty skeptical about dress codes. They can get out of hand and it's usually only for the girls.
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Post by Lurkingpea on Jan 31, 2024 1:03:08 GMT
I think some sort of standard dress code is ok. No alcohol, no swear words, no hate speech. I also think it should be applied equally to all genders.
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Post by meriannj on Jan 31, 2024 1:06:28 GMT
my kids are grown now but when they were in middle school they had uniforms and it was the BEST 2 years of my life, my then DD was "dramatic" and not having the morning fight over clothes made those years so nice. So yes I don't think there is anything wrong with making rules and making kids follow them.
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Post by freecharlie on Jan 31, 2024 1:18:36 GMT
We have a dress code at my school No profanity, weapons, sex, drugs or alcohol on clothing No hate No buttcheeks, stomach, strapless, clothes No armpits hanging out, pants must cover your crack
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Post by AussieMeg on Jan 31, 2024 1:23:51 GMT
I voted Yes, there should be a dress code. But my opinion may be skewed because pretty much all schools here have mandatory uniforms, whether they are private or public schools. There are probably some schools (eg. alternative schools) that don't have a uniform policy, but I don't personally know of any. I am very happy with mandatory school uniforms. If we didn't have them, I would be fully supportive of a dress code for all genders.
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Post by katlady on Jan 31, 2024 1:27:41 GMT
What is this? No showing of your armpits at all?
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jan 31, 2024 1:45:14 GMT
We have a dress code at my school No profanity, weapons, sex, drugs or alcohol on clothing No hate No buttcheeks, stomach, strapless, clothes No armpits hanging out, pants must cover your crack I think this is pretty similar to what the schools in our district have except the armpit part. 🤣 Even private school kids who wear uniforms like to push the boundaries. My sister’s girls were constantly being called on the carpet for having their skirts rolled up at the waistband, and more than once my sister made them put on full coverage underwear vs. the thong they tried to wear to school.
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lesley
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Post by lesley on Jan 31, 2024 2:10:51 GMT
I replied yes, because a uniform makes the most sense to me. Every public school in Scotland, whether primary or secondary, has a mandatory uniform. And I believe the vast majority of our private schools do too. It makes life much easier, in terms of cost, school identity, and ease of what to wear every day!
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Post by cakediva on Jan 31, 2024 2:15:39 GMT
I said depends.
I went to a uniformed high school - I would have NO issues having uniforms put in all the schools K-12. None.
But if there are no uniforms and a dress code - it should be fair to both - not just all on the girls.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jan 31, 2024 2:22:57 GMT
I like dress codes. Everyone is wearing the same thing, and it’s easy. One less thing to think about.
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Post by Merge on Jan 31, 2024 2:26:23 GMT
I should say, even with standardized dress, the kids find ways to show wealth and status with brand names - especially shoes and other accessories. Or certain brands of jeans at the middle school. And the required polos in elementary school were miserable for some kids with sensory issues and some older girls who got big and/or busty in 4th and 5th grade. Really nothing less flattering to a curvy shape than a boxy polo shirt. But I digress …
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Post by freecharlie on Jan 31, 2024 2:48:07 GMT
What is this? No showing of your armpits at all? the big holed muscle shirt guys like to wear
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Post by Crack-a-lackin on Jan 31, 2024 2:59:28 GMT
What is this? No showing of your armpits at all? the big holed muscle shirt guys like to wear Does a spaghetti strap top also violate this code?
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Post by Linda on Jan 31, 2024 3:11:44 GMT
Yes. BUT…the dress code should be the exact same for boys and girls. And nothing should be based on whether or not it will distract the boys. It should be primarily for safety, and then just out of general respect for everyone (foul language, gang stuff, racism, etc). yes - this exactly
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Post by chaosisapony on Jan 31, 2024 3:26:25 GMT
The issue I have with the dress codes that I experienced in school is that they applied almost exclusively to girls. Spaghetti straps? That's an infraction. Bra strap exposed? Infraction. Shorts don't reach the tips of your fingers? Infraction. Midriff exposed? Infraction. Meanwhile we had plenty of teenage guys wandering around in wife beaters and sagging their pants low enough that everyone knew what their underwear looked like and that was never a problem.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jan 31, 2024 4:21:31 GMT
The issue I have with the dress codes that I experienced in school is that they applied almost exclusively to girls. Spaghetti straps? That's an infraction. Bra strap exposed? Infraction. Shorts don't reach the tips of your fingers? Infraction. Midriff exposed? Infraction. Meanwhile we had plenty of teenage guys wandering around in wife beaters and sagging their pants low enough that everyone knew what their underwear looked like and that was never a problem. IMO, the reason most of the dress code rules apply to girls is because girls have more variety in their clothing styles. I don't see it as sexist and in general I think the dress codes around here seem to be too loose based on what I see in first day of school pics. That being said, I definitely think that sagging pants should also be addressed. Nobody needs to see as much A%$ as I see some guys showing.
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Post by hannahruth on Jan 31, 2024 6:54:27 GMT
I voted yes as I have no problem with them.
when our DS and DD were at school from Kindergarten on they both wore uniforms everyday for me it was no drama as they knew exactly what they had to wear and that was that.
when I was at High school Years 8 to 12 we wore a uniform and there was one particular teacher who would use her time measuring hem lines - I’m sure there were other things much more productive she could have been doing.
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Post by used2scrap on Jan 31, 2024 7:15:24 GMT
As a mom of a kindergartner who got dress coded for wearing a sundress with inch wide straps when it was 95 degrees…then got dress coded in high school while the cheerleaders wore sanctioned uniforms that exposed midriffs and miniskirts not covering their butt checks let alone the finger tip length (which takes zero into account for arm length/torso height), and then laughing her ass off that the REQUIRED Sr yearbook photo was a collar bone exposing drape that violated the actual dress code…no.
I’m all for uniforms; but arbitrary “dress codes” that target girls, bustier girls, and exist at the whims of power tripping administrators, no.
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Post by Judie in Oz on Jan 31, 2024 10:32:56 GMT
I voted Yes, there should be a dress code. But my opinion may be skewed because pretty much all schools here have mandatory uniforms, whether they are private or public schools. There are probably some schools (eg. alternative schools) that don't have a uniform policy, but I don't personally know of any. I am very happy with mandatory school uniforms. If we didn't have them, I would be fully supportive of a dress code for all genders. I'm so happy most Australian schools require uniforms. Much less fuss about what to wear in the mornings. I would much prefer it to a dress code.
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Post by monklady123 on Jan 31, 2024 10:46:22 GMT
For me there's a difference between a "dress code" and a "uniform". A dress code says "wear whatever you want as long as it conforms to these rules" -- i.e., no midriff shirts, or no sagging pants, or no profanity on tee-shirts, or whatever -- whereas a uniform is "wear some version of this outfit" -- khaki bottoms and certain color tops, like Merge mentioned. Or in some schools it's "wear this exact outfit" where the only variations allowed would be for cold vs. hot weather.
I'm in favor of both actually, lol, although my kids never went to school anywhere where there was a uniform. I never heard anything about a dress code either, but neither of my kids would have violated any that we've talked about in this thread... My son wore long shorts (that didn't sag) and a teeshirt for every day of his entire school life. lol. (made shopping easy though). And my dd looked cute in her clothes but she was pretty conservative about wearing anything too revealing (her choice, not anything I ever said to her, although of course we had talks when she was younger about how you present yourself, for both boys and girls). Over the years we also talked about how ridiculous it was to talk about girls "dressing modestly so as not to distract the boys".
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Post by freecharlie on Jan 31, 2024 12:10:02 GMT
the big holed muscle shirt guys like to wear Does a spaghetti strap top also violate this code? I've never dress coded a kid for spaghetti straps and those would not violate this rule. This one is for the shirts that have like an inch of fabric at yhe bottom holding it together so the entire side is visible and in that case. If a girl was wearing one, I would dress code her
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