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Post by katlady on Apr 7, 2024 2:20:55 GMT
If you heard “Jane is old. She is XX years old.” What age range would XX be for you?
I think definitely 85+. 80-84 is a grey area to me. I was reading an article about an 80 year who was traveling alone and got ill (she had a stroke). Many comments said 80 was too old to travel alone, 80 is too fragile, 80 should give up traveling, etc. Health willing, I hope to still be traveling in my 80’s. I think traveling alone at any age is risky. And strokes and heart issues happen to all ages.
And then, l’ll read an article about an elderly man who was robbed. The elderly man was 65. WTH? 65 is not elderly.
Of course, I think people’s perception of “old” partly depends on their own age. Young people think 50 is old. 😁
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Post by myshelly on Apr 7, 2024 2:26:45 GMT
I know 45 yr olds I think of as old and 65 yr olds I don’t think of as old.
IMO, age is more about how you act, look, and dress.
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Post by lemondrop on Apr 7, 2024 2:35:58 GMT
To your point, I think "old" gets older the older I get! I used to think of 60 as old but now I picked 70. Ask me in a decade and I will probably select 80!
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Post by ntsf on Apr 7, 2024 2:37:30 GMT
my dad at 89 was skiing down the expert slopes at 40 mph.. he had friends who were older doing the same.
I would go with 80 and older being old. but as they say.. some are old when in their 60's, some are not. I'm 68 and still ski, backpack and go hiking.. and I'm not alone in my age bracket.
no one can predict sudden health issues..
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Post by katiekaty on Apr 7, 2024 2:37:30 GMT
I am 65 and just got told today I was 45-47 in a guessing game even though everyone there knew my son who was there also and celebrated his birthday with most of them last September and turned 40! LOL good to know I don’t look my age or those friends just have no clue on guessing ages!
And no, I don’t feel old, my brain says I am in my late thirties to early forties—it has a real hard time grasping my real age. So, we don’t listen to the birth year part of my birthday and keep on chugging along. I really want to be traveling and doing all the things I can to the fullest when I am in my nineties! It would SUCK to be old at my age and think this is it and all that’s left is to die. So, oh hell no, I ain’t old!
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Post by quinlove on Apr 7, 2024 2:46:23 GMT
I’m 73. So, given that, ha, my answer is that the 80s are getting old.
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Post by Linda on Apr 7, 2024 2:50:16 GMT
I think there's a difference between old (an age) and elderly (which to me implies a slowing down due to health and less mobility and possibly some cognitive changes).
If one is dividing groups of people into young, middle-aged, and old...I would generally think that those under 30/35 are young, those from about 30/35-60/65 as middle-aged, and then those over 60/65 as old. Which would fit in with the retirement age typically being in the 60s. And I voted based on this. I'm 53 and middle-aged fwiw
BUT being old (by that definition) doesn't make one elderly. There are certainly people in their 60s who are elderly but I wouldn't consider the average person in their 60s to be elderly. And while the average person in their late 80s is probably elderly, there are the exceptions and not everyone in their late 80s or even into their early 90s is.
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Post by AussieMeg on Apr 7, 2024 2:53:36 GMT
The older that I get, and the older that my parents get, the older that "old" gets!
I also think it has to do with the individual. My grandparents were "old" and somewhat frail at 70. My mum is 76 and still working full time, and still very active. My dad is 81 and still very active and not at all frail. I would not call either of them old. Therefore I chose 85+ in the poll.
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Post by AussieMeg on Apr 7, 2024 2:55:26 GMT
And then, l’ll read an article about an elderly man who was robbed. The elderly man was 65. WTH? 65 is not elderly. I remember hearing a similar thing on the radio news a while ago. The mentioned the "elderly driver" and then went on to say he was 65yo. I was outraged!! 65 is so far from being elderly.
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Post by Zee on Apr 7, 2024 3:01:41 GMT
Around 80, you can no longer deny that you're old. Not just for the club, but for the earth.
That doesn't mean you act or feel old, but you are actually old at that point. I think plenty of people are still vibrant and active through their 70s but "most" people will slow down in their 80s, if they make it that far.
It's ok to be old, it's not an insult to call an 80 year old "old". But let's not fool ourselves. And no, I don't think an 80+ year old woman should be trekking around Africa (she was on a cruise doing a shore excursion) by herself.
She's lucky she found the American couple who also missed the ship to help her because she didn't really have her bearings and was all alone with stroke symptoms. Sure, that could happen to a 35 year old woman, but the chances of having a medical episode of confusion are exponentially higher if you're 80 than if you're 30s to 60s. Hell, a common UTI can send them to the hospital with no damn clue about where they are or what's going on or how to work the phone and where is their daughter and they'll sue us for keeping them in jail (Beverly, you mean the hospital, dear and you came here, not vice versa but OK call that attorney I'm sure you've got on retainer).
At least travel with a friend or in a group at that age.
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Post by librarylady on Apr 7, 2024 3:50:32 GMT
How old is old?
Answer: 10 years older than the person giving yhe Answer. 😁
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Post by librarylady on Apr 7, 2024 3:52:40 GMT
Serious answer: In the US, anyone old enough for SS benefits is old.
Most social agencies consider 60 and above to be elderly.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Apr 7, 2024 4:09:53 GMT
Based on my own personal experience, if they lived that long, the people in my family started noticeably slowing down in their late 70’s/ early 80’s. I’m talking significant health issues, mobility issues, memory issues, etc. Of course there will always be exceptions on both sides of that. I know people who died of cancer after a hard fought battle in their 50’s but I also know people who were still going strong at 80+.
And LOL depending on the day, some days I wake up feeling my age (late 50’s) and other days I wake up feeling like I’m a hundred. After helping to put in docks today, I can pretty well guarantee that tomorrow I’ll be feeling like I’m a hundred.
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Post by chaosisapony on Apr 7, 2024 4:36:28 GMT
In a general sense, I think of someone being old as being 75+. Saying that, I've known many healthy, active people in that age group that didn't act old at all and lots of people in their 40s and 50s that act extremely old.
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Post by FuzzyMutt on Apr 7, 2024 6:03:29 GMT
I fully believe the phrase “how old would you be if you didn’t know your birthday” has a lot of merit.
My parents are the oldest mid 70’s people you will ever meet.
We travel regularly with friends who are in their 70’s and 80’s and I am amazed at how they just act “normal” lol while my mom is afraid to drive across town, or, God forbid, use a cell phone.
I’m going to a birthday party for a man turning 97 in two weeks. If you met him, you’d think he was 75 tops.
Age is just a number.
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Post by airforcemomof1 on Apr 7, 2024 9:24:05 GMT
I’m 73. So, given that, ha, my answer is that the 80s are getting old. I’m 72 and agree!
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Post by gar on Apr 7, 2024 9:32:43 GMT
My Dad joined a local men’s club/group but gave it up because it was just a load of old men not doing much. He’s nearly 89 😁
It definitely moves as get older yourself.
I’m not elderly at 62 for sure.
I would like to know voted 60+ and how old they are 😊
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Apr 7, 2024 11:08:48 GMT
The older I get, the further that number becomes.
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Post by lindas on Apr 7, 2024 13:08:58 GMT
At 91 my dad was still working part-time at the golf course and playing golf along with a bunch of other activities when he wasn’t working. He had arthritis in his knees that slowed him down a bit and the only prescribed medication he took was for mild depression which he always had during the winter months. When Covid hit and he wasn’t able to get out do the things he enjoyed is when he started be “old”. He passed away a few months ago at 95.
Age is a number, old is how you feel and act.
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Post by gramasue on Apr 7, 2024 13:11:41 GMT
My Mom, who lived to 89, used to say "In my mind, I still feel young, but then I get up in the morning and look in the mirror and think - who is that wrinkled old woman?"
My Mom's been gone for almost 24 years, and that wrinkled old woman now lives in my mirror but I tell her to buzz off every day.
At 77, yes, I feel a lot older, but I still don't feel OLD. I voted 80+ because I know it's coming.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Apr 7, 2024 13:26:18 GMT
Why do people get so hung up on being old? Why is it so hard to admit that you (general) are old? Why can't it be an objective measure? Like 65 is retirement age so that is old? I just don't even understand people's sensitivity to this.
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Post by Linda on Apr 7, 2024 13:39:32 GMT
I would like to know voted 60+ and how old they are I'll own that vote and I explained my reasoning in my post but I'm almost 54
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Post by busy on Apr 7, 2024 13:46:30 GMT
Why do people get so hung up on being old? Why is it so hard to admit that you (general) are old? Why can't it be an objective measure? Like 65 is retirement age so that is old? I just don't even understand people's sensitivity to this. To me, “old” is not about the actual age. I’m 50 and I remember my mom at 50 and she was FAR older than me at the same age. Old, to me, is more of a mindset where your world gets smaller and less interesting, new experiences aren’t fun or desirable anymore, you are set in your ways and not still learning. One could become old at 40 or at 95. I’m fine with my age and am not worried about that number getting bigger. But I hope I’m not “old” for decades.
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Post by librarylady on Apr 7, 2024 13:55:00 GMT
I voted 60 was old. I based it on agencies or services that say services for Elderly begin at 55 or 60.
I am 78.
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Post by littlemama on Apr 7, 2024 13:56:19 GMT
I think "older" prob starts around 60-65. Elderly between 75&80.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Apr 7, 2024 13:56:42 GMT
Why do people get so hung up on being old? Why is it so hard to admit that you (general) are old? Why can't it be an objective measure? Like 65 is retirement age so that is old? I just don't even understand people's sensitivity to this. To me, “old” is not about the actual age. I’m 50 and I remember my mom at 50 and she was FAR older than me at the same age. Old, to me, is more of a mindset where your world gets smaller and less interesting, new experiences aren’t fun or desirable anymore, you are set in your ways and not still learning. One could become old at 40 or at 95. I’m fine with my age and am not worried about that number getting bigger. But I hope I’m not “old” for decades. You're redefining it. Old means having lived a long time. That's it. What you're describing is someone failing to evolve. I could argue that those who are dying their hair to cover up gray are failing to evolve. This is the whole problem I'm talking about. People are taking an objective measure and making it mean something about themselves based on their own personal biases. It seems very fear-based to me. Not to mention that many people use it to judge others.
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Post by epeanymous on Apr 7, 2024 14:07:27 GMT
In your scenario, I would assume 80+. I work in a field where it is common for people to work into their 70s, so I don’t really think of 70s as old.
I do agree that old can be more of a mindset than an age.
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Post by pantsonfire on Apr 7, 2024 14:08:51 GMT
I said 85+.
To me "old" is when you need assistance, can no longer drive safely, begin to loose balance, have trouble getting around, begin to loose bodily function, etc.
Your body is slowing down and things that were easy, no longer are.
My grandma passed at 99, she was almost 100. Until 95 you would have thought she was 70.
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Post by Merge on Apr 7, 2024 14:11:47 GMT
Why do people get so hung up on being old? Why is it so hard to admit that you (general) are old? Why can't it be an objective measure? Like 65 is retirement age so that is old? I just don't even understand people's sensitivity to this. To me, “old” is not about the actual age. I’m 50 and I remember my mom at 50 and she was FAR older than me at the same age. Old, to me, is more of a mindset where your world gets smaller and less interesting, new experiences aren’t fun or desirable anymore, you are set in your ways and not still learning. One could become old at 40 or at 95. I’m fine with my age and am not worried about that number getting bigger. But I hope I’m not “old” for decades. So much this. My mom had a gray perm and a grandchild on the way at 50. I'm 51 and have no such thing going on. My sister is 46 this year and when people see us together, even five or ten years ago, they think she is the older sister. She has gone completely gray, dresses in frumpy clothes, and most definitely has allowed her world to become very small and closed off from new ideas. I have no problem with being the age I am and am happy to lean into the "crone" years of womanhood. I tend to think we are most powerful at an older age. I am certainly more authentically myself than I've ever been before, and I give no fucks about what anyone thinks of me. That's powerful. It allows me to advocate better on behalf of others, too. Continuing to be active, mentally and physically, will hopefully allow that to continue for many years.
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Post by pantsonfire on Apr 7, 2024 14:19:04 GMT
To me, “old” is not about the actual age. I’m 50 and I remember my mom at 50 and she was FAR older than me at the same age. Old, to me, is more of a mindset where your world gets smaller and less interesting, new experiences aren’t fun or desirable anymore, you are set in your ways and not still learning. One could become old at 40 or at 95. I’m fine with my age and am not worried about that number getting bigger. But I hope I’m not “old” for decades. So much this. My mom had a gray perm and a grandchild on the way at 50. I'm 51 and have no such thing going on. My sister is 46 this year and when people see us together, even five or ten years ago, they think she is the older sister. She has gone completely gray, dresses in frumpy clothes, and most definitely has allowed her world to become very small and closed off from new ideas. I have no problem with being the age I am and am happy to lean into the "crone" years of womanhood. I tend to think we are most powerful at an older age. I am certainly more authentically myself than I've ever been before, and I give no fucks about what anyone thinks of me. That's powerful. It allows me to advocate better on behalf of others, too. Continuing to be active, mentally and physically, will hopefully allow that to continue for many years. Interestingly enough, I don't see that as old. I see that as feeling comfortable with oneself and not giving a damn. I started to go grey early 40s. I can not color my hair due to allergies. But my grey doesn't make me old. It's just hair. Heck 30 yr Olds are getting grey coloring lol I don't dress in latest fashion. Not my thing. I found my style and enjoy it. Tee shirts and shorts or jeans and tee or sweater. Doesn't make me old. Again, there are 20 yr Olds I know who dress "frumpy."
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