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Post by myshelly on Apr 8, 2024 19:21:51 GMT
And honestly, it’s 2024. Can women stop attacking and name calling each other about who has a “real job” or “more responsibilities”. This is just gross. Why do we do this to parents? Lolol that was my point. You know what you did, ma'am. Your same MO as always: "you're all old, I'm very busy, you're all out of touch". I think that if you have so much free time that you can hang out with your friends and it doesn’t matter when the hang out starts and it doesn’t matter when the hang out ends, then you must have much more free time than I do. What I said was “in this season of my life” I am very busy. I know very well there is a season coming when I won’t be so busy. That’s the circle of life. That’s not an insult.
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Post by Zee on Apr 8, 2024 19:23:14 GMT
Why have her come over at all if your time is so tightly scheduled? Does she have a scheduled end time as well? Do you have to schedule every get together with friends with a calendar? Are you ever spontaneously available? Do you let your kids visit with friends spontaneously, or are their friends scheduled too? How long will you schedule their social lives? I know you're not asking me this but this is a super frustrating attitude. I travel a lot for work - about ten nights a month - so my time at home is limited to begin with, but that doesn't mean my relationships matter less to me. That means I have fit everything with family and friends to fit in a lot less time. So yes, I do have to plan every get together with a calendar. It's just my reality at this point in time. While most friends don't travel as much as me, they also have complicated schedules and wouldn't be available for random get togethers either. My kid schedules his own social events and does things spontaneously sometimes - but even he mostly schedules things with friends because they all have different extracurricular schedules, etc. so it's not that often they are all available to hang spontaneously. It feels unkind to imply that we're shitty friends because we schedule time with the people who matter to us. FWIW, my friend who is the most difficult to schedule time with is a SAHM. Her kids are 14 & 16 and both on club swim teams. That takes up SO MUCH TIME. We just scheduled to go out for drinks in JUNE because that was the first time she had a weekend evening available. Your scheduling time with someone important to you doesn't equal sit outside in your car for 30 minutes to me. I don't need friends like that, thanks. I mean, the chances of me showing up 30 min early at your house are practically nil, but if that's how I'd be treated I'd just as soon not be friends or be invited over with your impossibly tight schedule and risk upsetting you and your kids and their music teacher.
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Post by busy on Apr 8, 2024 19:24:46 GMT
Not that I don't totally own that I am weird, but...my kids just randomly went outside and played with other random neighborhood kids. Like they walked over, knocked on the door and asked to play. Neighbor kids did the same knocking at our door. 90% of my kids play was not scheduled. I mean sure they had friends outside the neighborhood and I took them there. But like daily play? Was unscheduled. That was true when DS was younger, but once he hit high school, it was an entirely different situation because they all have so many extracurriculars. (It would changed in middle school, but covid.)
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Post by Zee on Apr 8, 2024 19:31:57 GMT
Lolol that was my point. You know what you did, ma'am. Your same MO as always: "you're all old, I'm very busy, you're all out of touch". I think that if you have so much free time that you can hang out with your friends and it doesn’t matter when the hang out starts and it doesn’t matter when the hang out ends, then you must have much more free time than I do. What I said was “in this season of my life” I am very busy. I know very well there is a season coming when I won’t be so busy. That’s the circle of life. That’s not an insult. You do it all the time and your response to me was no exception. But, it's why I enjoy your posts. You're fascinating. You live in a totally different world than I do, socially and mentally and every way I can think of. You're incredibly rigid in your thinking. You "literally cannot" imagine so many things the rest of us take for granted, like free time with friends? Your kid makes a plan to see a friend, it involves a ride, done. Get on a bike and go ride with friends. Etc. (Yes, I'm sure there are a hundred reasons why that doesn't work for your kids) And you still know what you did there. Keep on keepin' on. 🤣
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Post by ~summer~ on Apr 8, 2024 19:33:36 GMT
I think just showing up 30 min early is odd. Wouldn’t she send a text like “hey I’m running early can I come by at 1:30?”
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Post by jeremysgirl on Apr 8, 2024 19:35:52 GMT
Not that I don't totally own that I am weird, but...my kids just randomly went outside and played with other random neighborhood kids. Like they walked over, knocked on the door and asked to play. Neighbor kids did the same knocking at our door. 90% of my kids play was not scheduled. I mean sure they had friends outside the neighborhood and I took them there. But like daily play? Was unscheduled. That was true when DS was younger, but once he hit high school, it was an entirely different situation because they all have so many extracurriculars. (It would changed in middle school, but covid.) Chloe sang in the choir (mostly during school hours) and she played lacrosse in the spring. She was also an honor society member. But this was not enough activity to feel, at least to me and her, that her time was so limited that hanging out with friends/free time needed to be scheduled like that. And certainly not by me. Although I'll own that I'm much more of a free range kind of parent. I already claimed my weirdness.
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Post by cmpeter on Apr 8, 2024 19:39:04 GMT
It’s rude to show up too early or too late. Late you can’t always control, even with planning. So, send a text and let a friend know.
Early you can 100% control. Hang in your car, get out and take a walk, stop at the store a get your friend a little treat. If you want to go in early, send a text and make sure it’s ok first.
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Post by Linda on Apr 8, 2024 19:39:06 GMT
I'm an early is on time, on time is late sort of person BUT that's for appointments and meeting up with people outside the home. If I need to go somewhere, I will be there early so I'm not keeping anyone waiting - and if I'm super early, I don't mind waiting in the car or reading in a waiting room etc..
BUT if I'm going to someone's house? I will not ring that bell or knock on the door BEFORE the time I was asked to arrive - and if that time was a range come between 2 and 3, I'll aim for 215.
As for scheduling appointments with friends? I'm all for that - I have a longtime friend that we have a scheduled phone call every 1st Saturday at 10am. Doesn't mean we don't text or email or even occasionally chat on the phone other times but THAT time is blocked off on our calendars. Do we shift the start time now and then? Yes - this Saturday we moved it forward to 9am as I needed to leave just before 11.
Another (local) friend - if we want to meet up for lunch, then we need to plan to do so during her school holidays as she's a teacher and yes, we plan that in advance and at a specific time whether we're meeting at one of our houses or at a restaurant.
My kids schedule their 'friend' time also - between school, extra curricular activities, jobs., Scouting...teens are busy and it's hard to coordinate schedules.
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Post by myshelly on Apr 8, 2024 19:40:03 GMT
I think that if you have so much free time that you can hang out with your friends and it doesn’t matter when the hang out starts and it doesn’t matter when the hang out ends, then you must have much more free time than I do. What I said was “in this season of my life” I am very busy. I know very well there is a season coming when I won’t be so busy. That’s the circle of life. That’s not an insult. You do it all the time and your response to me was no exception. But, it's why I enjoy your posts. You're fascinating. You live in a totally different world than I do, socially and mentally and every way I can think of. You're incredibly rigid in your thinking. You "literally cannot" imagine so many things the rest of us take for granted, like free time with friends? Your kid makes a plan to see a friend, it involves a ride, done. Get on a bike and go ride with friends. Etc. (Yes, I'm sure there are a hundred reasons why that doesn't work for your kids) And you still know what you did there. Keep on keepin' on. 🤣 Yea, I think the whole randomly roving the neighborhood on bikes isn’t really a big thing with this generation like it was in the 80s or earlier. I didn’t do that growing up. For my kids, bike riding looks like loading the bikes onto the rack and driving to the park with the biking trails 🤷🏻♀️
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Post by pinklady on Apr 8, 2024 19:40:32 GMT
If you know this person is chronically early and you didn't tell her NOT to be early because your kid has a lesson, then that's a YOU problem. In general, I wouldn't mind if someone was 10-15 minutes early. Anything earlier than that, they'd be sitting in my living room waiting or sitting on the toilet (closed lid ) chatting while I finish up getting ready.
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Post by Crack-a-lackin on Apr 8, 2024 19:40:50 GMT
I’m one of those 15 minutes early people, however I will not knock on your door until the set time or maybe 5 minutes early, depending on our relationship. It’s rude to be that early to someone’s house.
I had a long period (or season) of my life where every minute of my day was scheduled. I completely understand it. Even now when I have far more free time than I did before it’s important to me to precisely schedule certain things, including visits with friends.
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Post by busy on Apr 8, 2024 19:40:53 GMT
That was true when DS was younger, but once he hit high school, it was an entirely different situation because they all have so many extracurriculars. (It would changed in middle school, but covid.) Chloe sang in the choir (mostly during school hours) and she played lacrosse in the spring. She was also an honor society member. But this was not enough activity to feel, at least to me and her, that her time was so limited that hanging out with friends/free time needed to be scheduled like that. And certainly not by me. Although I'll own that I'm much more of a free range kind of parent. I already claimed my weirdness. It's less that each individual kid is so busy and more that one friend is in baseball, one's in band, one's in soccer, one's in debate, and so on and those all have different and conflicting schedules, so it's hard to find time when more than one of them is available, if that makes sense.
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Post by Zee on Apr 8, 2024 19:42:56 GMT
You do it all the time and your response to me was no exception. But, it's why I enjoy your posts. You're fascinating. You live in a totally different world than I do, socially and mentally and every way I can think of. You're incredibly rigid in your thinking. You "literally cannot" imagine so many things the rest of us take for granted, like free time with friends? Your kid makes a plan to see a friend, it involves a ride, done. Get on a bike and go ride with friends. Etc. (Yes, I'm sure there are a hundred reasons why that doesn't work for your kids) And you still know what you did there. Keep on keepin' on. 🤣 Yea, I think the whole randomly roving the neighborhood on bikes isn’t really a big thing with this generation like it was in the 80s or earlier. I didn’t do that growing up. For my kids, bike riding looks like loading the bikes onto the rack and driving to the park with the biking trails 🤷🏻♀️ My kids did that in the 2000s and 2010s but again there you go right on cue 😂
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Post by myshelly on Apr 8, 2024 19:44:20 GMT
I think that if you have so much free time that you can hang out with your friends and it doesn’t matter when the hang out starts and it doesn’t matter when the hang out ends, then you must have much more free time than I do. What I said was “in this season of my life” I am very busy. I know very well there is a season coming when I won’t be so busy. That’s the circle of life. That’s not an insult. You do it all the time and your response to me was no exception. But, it's why I enjoy your posts. You're fascinating. You live in a totally different world than I do, socially and mentally and every way I can think of. You're incredibly rigid in your thinking. You "literally cannot" imagine so many things the rest of us take for granted, like free time with friends? Your kid makes a plan to see a friend, it involves a ride, done. Get on a bike and go ride with friends. Etc. (Yes, I'm sure there are a hundred reasons why that doesn't work for your kids) And you still know what you did there. Keep on keepin' on. 🤣 And I get that you find me amusing, but I also often feel like even on threads where lots of peas are agreeing with me (like this one) you keep up with this whole you live in a different world thing. I do often feel like you in particular are out of touch with anything involving raising kids in the 2020s. The idea that kids are more scheduled than ever before is everywhere. You can read articles or watch TikToks about it.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Apr 8, 2024 19:47:34 GMT
Chloe sang in the choir (mostly during school hours) and she played lacrosse in the spring. She was also an honor society member. But this was not enough activity to feel, at least to me and her, that her time was so limited that hanging out with friends/free time needed to be scheduled like that. And certainly not by me. Although I'll own that I'm much more of a free range kind of parent. I already claimed my weirdness. It's less that each individual kid is so busy and more that one friend is in baseball, one's in band, one's in soccer, one's in debate, and so on and those all have different and conflicting schedules, so it's hard to find time when more than one of them is available, if that makes sense. Yes, I see how that could be. *I* do not tend to be a planner. My kids also were not planners. Chloe also had a wide circle of friends so there always seemed like there was someone available whenever she wanted to do something as a teen. Esther was different and just going to school was a lot for her. But she would spend a whole lot of teen time sitting on the front porch talking to our neighbor (her friend from school). The two of them just basically messaged each other and would sit out there when they weren't gaming online together. Chloe did similar things with her friends, no real plans, no scheduled events, just hanging out randomly. And there was always a lot of neighborhood friends. Looking back, I would guess that many of her friends weren't heavily scheduled either.
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Post by myshelly on Apr 8, 2024 19:47:53 GMT
Chloe sang in the choir (mostly during school hours) and she played lacrosse in the spring. She was also an honor society member. But this was not enough activity to feel, at least to me and her, that her time was so limited that hanging out with friends/free time needed to be scheduled like that. And certainly not by me. Although I'll own that I'm much more of a free range kind of parent. I already claimed my weirdness. It's less that each individual kid is so busy and more that one friend is in baseball, one's in band, one's in soccer, one's in debate, and so on and those all have different and conflicting schedules, so it's hard to find time when more than one of them is available, if that makes sense. Exactly this. If there’s a group of kids who want to get together there’s a group chat of moms trying to figure it out. And the answer is almost always something very specific like Thursday from 3:00-4:30. My kids have sleepovers scheduled in May already on the calendar from moms trying to find a date that works for everyone.
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Post by Merge on Apr 8, 2024 19:50:19 GMT
I do think it’s rude to be very early. I teach private lessons from my home and sometimes families show up as much as 30 min early and sit outside my house. One mom will text and say, we’re here if you wanted to get started early today! I do not. Go drive around the neighborhood and get a drink or something.
In other cases, a parent drops off her two boys early and sends them in to wait until their lesson time. She’s looking for free childcare that I’m not providing - we had a chat about that.
But being late is even more rude IMO.
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Post by Zee on Apr 8, 2024 19:52:32 GMT
You do it all the time and your response to me was no exception. But, it's why I enjoy your posts. You're fascinating. You live in a totally different world than I do, socially and mentally and every way I can think of. You're incredibly rigid in your thinking. You "literally cannot" imagine so many things the rest of us take for granted, like free time with friends? Your kid makes a plan to see a friend, it involves a ride, done. Get on a bike and go ride with friends. Etc. (Yes, I'm sure there are a hundred reasons why that doesn't work for your kids) And you still know what you did there. Keep on keepin' on. 🤣 And I get that you find me amusing, but I also often feel like even on threads where lots of peas are agreeing with me (like this one) you keep up with this whole you live in a different world thing. I do often feel like you in particular are out of touch with anything involving raising kids in the 2020s. The idea that kids are more scheduled than ever before is everywhere. You can read articles or watch TikToks about it. Me in particular? I don't have anything to say about raising kids in the 2020s. You're just butthurt that I said you and your kids were flustered by a visitor. You haven't noticed anything at all "in particular" about me and raising kids in the 2020s. You're just trying to make me feel irrelevant. You gotta be quicker than that.
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Post by The Birdhouse Lady on Apr 8, 2024 19:56:29 GMT
I have a friend who is ALWAYS early. I am a right on timer. When I schedule anything with her I always figure in the early factor. Meeting for lunch at 12? She will be there at least by 11:45. I just try and show up between 11:45 and 12:00. We always laugh about it, nothing to get to bend of shape about. However, she did show up to my son's wedding reception before anyone else was there. That did irk me a little bit I will say.
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Post by busy on Apr 8, 2024 19:58:59 GMT
It's less that each individual kid is so busy and more that one friend is in baseball, one's in band, one's in soccer, one's in debate, and so on and those all have different and conflicting schedules, so it's hard to find time when more than one of them is available, if that makes sense. Yes, I see how that could be. *I* do not tend to be a planner. My kids also were not planners. Chloe also had a wide circle of friends so there always seemed like there was someone available whenever she wanted to do something as a teen. Esther was different and just going to school was a lot for her. But she would spend a whole lot of teen time sitting on the front porch talking to our neighbor (her friend from school). The two of them just basically messaged each other and would sit out there when they weren't gaming online together. Chloe did similar things with her friends, no real plans, no scheduled events, just hanging out randomly. And there was always a lot of neighborhood friends. Looking back, I would guess that many of her friends weren't heavily scheduled either. We have the extra wrinkle that DS goes to a different high school in our district than the one that's assigned to our neighborhood. So while he still has friends in the neighborhood from his younger years and they do hang out sometimes, his closer "current" friends from school all live a drive away and none of them drive yet (though they are all 16 - what is with the generation and their lack of desire to drive? ). I think it would be a lot more like what you're describing if we lived walking distance from his HS friends.
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Post by myshelly on Apr 8, 2024 19:59:53 GMT
And I get that you find me amusing, but I also often feel like even on threads where lots of peas are agreeing with me (like this one) you keep up with this whole you live in a different world thing. I do often feel like you in particular are out of touch with anything involving raising kids in the 2020s. The idea that kids are more scheduled than ever before is everywhere. You can read articles or watch TikToks about it. Me in particular? I don't have anything to say about raising kids in the 2020s. You're just butthurt that I said you and your kids were flustered by a visitor. You haven't noticed anything at all "in particular" about me and raising kids in the 2020s. You're just trying to make me feel irrelevant. You gotta be quicker than that. I’m not butthurt, I just think different words have different meanings and flustered is different than annoyed. We obviously have really different interpretations of what I say. It doesn’t have to do with making anyone irrelevant, I just think things change over time. I’m surprised that you had kids in the 2000s and 2010s, that’s not what I would have guessed from your posts. I tend to think of kids going out on bikes as a thing of the past. It is not something I experienced as a child or that I heard about or saw anyone I went to school with doing and it’s certainly not anything I ever thought about encouraging my kids to do. It is much, much more moms coordinate playdates culture in my area. I know it’s not just my circle because it’s what my sister does (and her kids are different ages than mine, attend public school, and live in a different suburb), what I ready about in mom groups, and what I see on my social media.
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Post by smalltowngirlie on Apr 8, 2024 20:02:13 GMT
My in-laws were consistently at least 30 minutes early when invited to our house. We would state the invitation like this - We are eating at 1:00. So you can come anytime after 12:00. That gives us time to talk and such. They would show up at 11:30. I started moving the arrival time to align with when I wanted them to arrive, so I would say - arrive anytime after 12:30 - and they would arrive at 12:00 when I was ready for them. Too early is rude. I may not be ready for you 30 minutes before I expect you there.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Apr 8, 2024 20:02:39 GMT
Yes, I see how that could be. *I* do not tend to be a planner. My kids also were not planners. Chloe also had a wide circle of friends so there always seemed like there was someone available whenever she wanted to do something as a teen. Esther was different and just going to school was a lot for her. But she would spend a whole lot of teen time sitting on the front porch talking to our neighbor (her friend from school). The two of them just basically messaged each other and would sit out there when they weren't gaming online together. Chloe did similar things with her friends, no real plans, no scheduled events, just hanging out randomly. And there was always a lot of neighborhood friends. Looking back, I would guess that many of her friends weren't heavily scheduled either. We have the extra wrinkle that DS goes to a different high school in our district than the one that's assigned to our neighborhood. So while he still has friends in the neighborhood from his younger years and they do hang out sometimes, his closer "current" friends from school all live a drive away and none of them drive yet (though they are all 16 - what is with the generation and their lack of desire to drive? ). I think it would be a lot more like what you're describing if we lived walking distance from his HS friends. I understand that too because my life changed in high school similarly. I went to the Catholic school so not my neighborhood school for high school. But my Shelley keeps talking about having to schedule with other moms. So I don't think she is talking about high schoolers which is the whole reason I responded like I did initially. I don't ever recall calling a mom to schedule anything middle school and beyond. The kids did it.
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Apr 8, 2024 20:04:22 GMT
More than 10 minutes early at a private home or for a pick up time.... is very rude. I am an arrive early person. I arrive in the area(within a mile or two) of where I am going, 30-60 minutes early...because traffic travel times are very inconsistent....could take 20 minute or 60 minutes to get across the city...and everything in between. I always plan for something to do (browse at a store, walk in a store (meaning spending my time "walking" for exercise...up and down every aisle), walk in a park or mall...for my early arrival in the area. I would never show up at someone home more than 5-10 minutes early. At a restaurant, I will go early and if there's a wait list, I get my name on the wait list....if there is no wait, I sit in my car or walk nearby. My early tendencies, are for personal reasons of keeping my anxiety and stress levels to a minimum. Being late or barely making it somewhere on time....increases my stress level, which causes me anxiety. Being early helps me avoid stress and anxiety. My early habit is for myself, and I never ever expect anyone to accommodate me being early. I prefer to drive myself in my own vehicle. I would never ever agree to ride with or pickup "an exactly on time or a late person", because that would cause me too much stress and anxiety. Attendance at my Families holiday gatherings are the exception.....the time told is the approximate eating time. Arrival time is anytime prior to the eating time for socializing and visiting. So if lunch is at 1:00pm, arrival anytime from 10:00am+ Event arrivals(showers, birthday party, etc...) are usually arrive 30 minutes prior than the time listed. I never arrive too early for Family stuff, because I can only tolerate certain Family members for so long.
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Post by Lexica on Apr 8, 2024 20:19:18 GMT
I am definitely a "has to be there 15 minutes early" sort of person when it comes to appointments and the like because the traffic in the area where I live can be absolutely awful, and I want to provide ample time in case anything goes awry. I don't mind waiting in the car. If I don't have a book to read, I can play on my phone. I was 1/2 hour early to a vet appointment this morning because it was a new to me office, and I had taken the day off anyway. I completely understood they couldn't get us in until the actual appointment time. I'm also the type of person who will be at the airport hours early and still worry about missing my flight while being at my gate. That said, if I was waiting for someone and was early, I could still find a way to keep myself busy. Maybe ask her to find a book or something to occupy her time if she insists on being there earlier than she needs to be? I would be upset if she had interrupted something like she did for your DS. I bring my Kindle when I know I may experience a wait. Sometimes it is because I am leaving plenty of time in case there is traffic and end up arriving early. I don’t mind sitting in my car and reading until it is closer to the correct time. I always bring the Kindle for medical appointments because doctor’s offices are at the mercy of patients running late so even if I walk in on time, I may still need to wait. If I can read, I don’t mind waiting. If I didn’t have something to read, I would get antsy.
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Post by Zee on Apr 8, 2024 20:23:30 GMT
Me in particular? I don't have anything to say about raising kids in the 2020s. You're just butthurt that I said you and your kids were flustered by a visitor. You haven't noticed anything at all "in particular" about me and raising kids in the 2020s. You're just trying to make me feel irrelevant. You gotta be quicker than that. I’m not butthurt, I just think different words have different meanings and flustered is different than annoyed. We obviously have really different interpretations of what I say. It doesn’t have to do with making anyone irrelevant, I just think things change over time. I’m surprised that you had kids in the 2000s and 2010s, that’s not what I would have guessed from your posts. I tend to think of kids going out on bikes as a thing of the past. It is not something I experienced as a child or that I heard about or saw anyone I went to school with doing and it’s certainly not anything I ever thought about encouraging my kids to do. It is much, much more moms coordinate playdates culture in my area. I know it’s not just my circle because it’s what my sister does (and her kids are different ages than mine, attend public school, and live in a different suburb), what I ready about in mom groups, and what I see on my social media. Well then that's proof that you don't know anything about my posts on kids. As I suspected. And you have a really hard time seeing beyond your own insular experience, unless you saw it on Tiktok. I'll give you one of these since that's your usual response: 🤷♀️
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Post by gina on Apr 8, 2024 20:41:16 GMT
Yes, being more than 10-15 minutes early is rude. You are given a time for a reason.
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Post by kate on Apr 8, 2024 20:41:51 GMT
I don’t like to arrive early; however, as a host I’m always ready 15 mins early just in case guests arrive. Oh my gosh, I want to be you when I grow up! I wish I could get my act together to be early when I have guests over. I was a chronically late person through early adulthood, but I managed to turn into an early person with immense effort. I occasionally run a little late for purely social things (not involving tickets, reservations, etc.). For professional appointments, shows, planes, and trains, I'm always early. I'm very proud of changing that habit. When I'm having people over, though, I'm a hot mess. Someone showing up an hour early might find me unshowered, hollering at the kids to pick up their clutter, and trying to get something in the oven! I sure would love to be ready early. I do think it's tremendously rude to show up at someone's house early - even 15 minutes.
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Post by GiantsFan on Apr 8, 2024 20:58:25 GMT
As someone who is always early, I agree that it's rude to be too early or too late. I think 5 - 10 minutes either way is OK, anything else is rude and deserves a quick text. "Hey I'm early. I'm waiting out front in case you peek out and see me in my car" OR "Hey, traffic is awful, I'll be there as soon as I can".
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Post by anaterra on Apr 8, 2024 21:01:39 GMT
I am a get there on time kinda person... I live rural so I am actually early all the time because I dont know if I will get stuck behind a tractor or 18 wheeler driving into town... so, I leave with plenty of time to be early... but I won't actually show up until the agreed time... I have my kindle or my phone to pass time..
just an aside about bikes and kids today... it could be because my dd lives in a small town (less then 3000 people) and it is where a lot of my ex dhs family also lives.. but my grandsons age 7 and 11 DO RIDE BIKES to friends or cousins houses... they ask dd.. she will text where they are going and then the other adult will text her to let her know that yes which ever kid made it...
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