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Post by chaosisapony on Apr 16, 2024 2:01:26 GMT
I know everyone has their own complaints about the costs of things in the last few years but it's really weighing me down lately.
I work full time and have a decent career, I should not be totally stressed out about paying my bills and going to the grocery store. But here we are. It seems like every month there is some extra expense that just sucks any left over funds right out of my bank account. There's vet bills ($600), propane bills ($550), car registration ($450), and oh look it's my PO box renewal month and it is now $72! $72!!!! When I moved here in 2018 it was $40 for the year. I want to get my garden put together but I can't afford the items I need until next payday. I need to get the oil changed in my car and that's $100. I'm going on a short trip at the end of the month that has been prepaid for but I know even eating out a few nights for dinner is going to kill me. I just feel so defeated. I'm turning 40 in a few weeks and I really didn't expect to still struggle with basic expenses like this.
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Post by pantsonfire on Apr 16, 2024 2:07:14 GMT
I hear you and validate your feelings. Lift has thrown plenty of wrenches into our plans since DS was born. I wouldn't even say it is the cost of living, it is just a bunch of shit all at once and it drowns you.
It sucks.
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Post by tenacious on Apr 16, 2024 2:30:01 GMT
I am so sorry. It is definitely the topic of conversation in my social group these days. We live in an above average cost of living area, and just about everyone I know-doctors, lawyers, business owners, etc., etc. are all feeling the squeeze. Costs that most of us didn’t think twice over are now being carefully measured. Our cleaning ladies said a bunch of her long time clients have dropped her. People are putting off purchasing cars, and postponing home improvement projects. We are paying 40k a year right now on all our insurances since my husband left his corporate job and medical plan behind. We drive older cars and have high deductible plans.
It’s real, and it’s tough. You are not alone. 💔
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Post by calgaryscrapper on Apr 16, 2024 2:44:05 GMT
We have a Facebook gardening group where people sometimes give away or trade seeds, plants etc. We buy and sell in Facebook marketplace. Maybe you could bring some cash in through the internet. We split our perennials and sell seeds from our yard through Facebook groups. Try to reduce bills. Call the phone company and ask for the loyalty department, we do it every two years and have our home phone down to eighteen dollars a month. Shop around for somewhere to change your oil to save money. If your freezer is full eat from it and your pantry for the next month
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Post by mich5481 on Apr 16, 2024 2:53:08 GMT
I'm not sure where you live, but Publix offers $10 off the purchase of $50 gas gift cards every 4-6 weeks. You can buy 1 discounted gas gift card for every $50 in groceries you buy that week, and you can pick the gas station you want to purchase from. I usually get ExxonMobil gas gift cards, and I go to the local ExxonMobil with a garage. I just had them change my oil, and I have them do my annual car inspection, and then I pay for the services with my gas gift cards. It's not much, but every little bit helps!
Maybe a local supermarket does something similar?
Also, I know around here, Publix sometimes gets a bad rap for being "expensive," but if you shop their BOGO sales, it is even cheaper than Wal-Mart for groceries.
Finally, our local EarthFare has boneless skinless chicken breast and grass feed ground beef for $3.99/pound on Tuesdays. I usually try to buy the limit on the chicken each week - I freeze the leftovers, and then I have plenty stocked up for times when I am busy or the weather is bad on a Tuesday.
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Post by mich5481 on Apr 16, 2024 2:55:06 GMT
One last note, I don't know if you've ever looked at YNAB, You Need a Budget, but they are all about budgeting for true expenses, like car registration and propane. If you set aside a set amount every month, then you won't be scrambling for $400-600 when you get the annual charge. It can be difficult to start setting aside money each month for that stuff, but it can make life easier.
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Post by breetheflea on Apr 16, 2024 2:59:42 GMT
Check if your neighborhood has a Buy-Nothing group on Facebook. Not only can you give stuff away (sometimes broken stuff someone handy wants to try to fix) but you can request things on there... like you can ask if someone planted too many veggie starts and has extras to give away.
The library is also another resource, mine doesn't have a tool lending library (I wish they did, the ones I've seen online look awesome), but one near me is starting a seed library where you can trade plant seeds (or something, I don't know because I haven't done it yet.) so you don't have to buy 100 tomato seeds when you only wanted three plants.
Hang in there!
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Post by sunnyd on Apr 16, 2024 3:39:20 GMT
I feel you! Dh is 64 and quit working almost 2 years ago. We planned for his retirement but it's tighter than we expected due to inflation. Ugh! We have always been frugal but we are tightening our belts more than usual.
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Post by lg on Apr 16, 2024 3:48:02 GMT
Just got a “stage two” orthodontic bill for dd. $8200. We have already spent $5000 for stage one. I almost cried and was totally out of it for the rest of the day… we have the savings in place to pay for it but I feel battered and bruised and like every time I’ve just gotten my head above water I’m shoved back down again. And we are quite frugal people which is why we have the savings when we live in one of the highest cost of living and unaffordable housing areas in our country. I cannot imagine how it would feel if we didn’t plan and save for future expenses like we do.
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Post by ntsf on Apr 16, 2024 4:03:01 GMT
and it is a shocker when you are retired and you don't have insurance covering everything.. thank goodness for medicare.
just spent $250 at my annual eye exam. still need to pay $350 for my year of contacts. I can cover it.. but medical costs can be unexpected as you age.
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Post by chaosisapony on Apr 16, 2024 4:13:56 GMT
I appreciate the tips everyone. I'll manage to get by, I always do. I just want more than to "get by" at this point, you know? I want to take short trips without being concerned and buy the expensive package of chicken at Costco. I want to pay my propane bill in one go, not make payments every month. and it is a shocker when you are retired and you don't have insurance covering everything.. thank goodness for medicare. just spent $250 at my annual eye exam. still need to pay $350 for my year of contacts. I can cover it.. but medical costs can be unexpected as you age. I've spent most of my adult life without health insurance. My job now offers it but the deductible is so high and coverage is so low that I'm scared to use it. I spend about $350 on years when I get new glasses even using my insurance. I can't fathom having insurance that actually covers "everything". One of the ladies I work with just got her first mammogram.... and a $400 bill to go with it. SMH.
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Apr 16, 2024 9:21:46 GMT
and it is a shocker when you are retired and you don't have insurance covering everything.. thank goodness for medicare. just spent $250 at my annual eye exam. still need to pay $350 for my year of contacts. I can cover it.. but medical costs can be unexpected as you age. I could retire in May, and in fact really wanted to do so. However, I’m only 62 and have to cover insurance until Medicare kicks in. I’m just not comfortable doing that yet, and I have decided to postpone making any retirement decisions until after the election. The onl reason I would retire before then is if my mom and disabled brother move in with us. If they do, it’s because they need a caregiver, and I would be taking over that role.
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Post by atomicdog on Apr 16, 2024 9:42:18 GMT
I'll also validate your emotions. My daughter is your age and she had a meltdown this weekend. Same thing - can't afford anything. Working 2 jobs - her husband is working 7 days a week and they're just getting by. Nothing extra. Between all the things you mentioned, their cost for housing is extremely high and taxes killed them. We're at retirement age and can't afford to be of much help to them. It's sad and scary.
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Post by mollycoddle on Apr 16, 2024 10:22:02 GMT
The cost of everything has gone up so much. And I don’t even mean food. Getting a contractor to do work has gone up so much since Covid began. And things like getting a new roof? Yikes. I paid about $9000 in 2005 for a roof, and that was average for my area. Now a new roof will be almost double that. I know that everything is more expensive, but that seems extreme to me. Of course I could spend less, but I want a roof that will last. I had drains put alongside my house for drainage, and between 2019 and 2021 ( which is how long I had to wait for this company), the price went up nearly $2000. Incredible. And don’t get me started on the cost of buying a car.
I know that contractors have had to increase their prices, but it does seem excessive.
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Post by peasapie on Apr 16, 2024 10:44:02 GMT
I appreciate the tips everyone. I'll manage to get by, I always do. I just want more than to "get by" at this point, you know? I want to take short trips without being concerned and buy the expensive package of chicken at Costco. I want to pay my propane bill in one go, not make payments every month. and it is a shocker when you are retired and you don't have insurance covering everything.. thank goodness for medicare. just spent $250 at my annual eye exam. still need to pay $350 for my year of contacts. I can cover it.. but medical costs can be unexpected as you age. I've spent most of my adult life without health insurance. My job now offers it but the deductible is so high and coverage is so low that I'm scared to use it. I spend about $350 on years when I get new glasses even using my insurance. I can't fathom having insurance that actually covers "everything". One of the ladies I work with just got her first mammogram.... and a $400 bill to go with it. SMH. Glasses at Costco or Walmart are around $200. Sadly Medicare covers some, but the monthly cost for supplementary is still significant.
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Post by hop2 on Apr 16, 2024 10:44:45 GMT
and it is a shocker when you are retired and you don't have insurance covering everything.. thank goodness for medicare. just spent $250 at my annual eye exam. still need to pay $350 for my year of contacts. I can cover it.. but medical costs can be unexpected as you age. You know, what idiot decided that vision & dental weren’t healthcare? I know in ocean county NJ people joke quite a lot about the number of accidents that elder drivers get into and I have to wonder how many of them just don’t get eye exams & new glasses? I know my glasses are $700+ due to a 9.5 & 10 prescription, lightweight so they don’t give me a head ache, frames & I spend $100 of that to get a sunglasses attachment. So how are people on Medicaid or disability supposed to get $600/year? Anyway sorry for the off topic rant. Yes, the cost of living is getting higher it’s all going to the billionaires & corporate profits. It’s out of control.
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Post by craftymom101 on Apr 16, 2024 13:16:46 GMT
I know everyone has their own complaints about the costs of things in the last few years but it's really weighing me down lately. I work full time and have a decent career, I should not be totally stressed out about paying my bills and going to the grocery store. But here we are. It seems like every month there is some extra expense that just sucks any left over funds right out of my bank account. There's vet bills ($600), propane bills ($550), car registration ($450), and oh look it's my PO box renewal month and it is now $72! $72!!!! When I moved here in 2018 it was $40 for the year. I want to get my garden put together but I can't afford the items I need until next payday. I need to get the oil changed in my car and that's $100. I'm going on a short trip at the end of the month that has been prepaid for but I know even eating out a few nights for dinner is going to kill me. I just feel so defeated. I'm turning 40 in a few weeks and I really didn't expect to still struggle with basic expenses like this. I could have written your post word for word, and it sucks. Feeding four kids (three teenagers and an almost-teenager) is ridiculously expensive on top of bills and unexpected expenses every month. I also feel like I am never getting ahead. I have TONS of seeds and I would love to send you some! Please let me know what you're looking to plant this year and DM me your address. I'll put a seed care package in the mail for you.
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Post by needmysanity on Apr 16, 2024 13:22:31 GMT
I hear you and I feel your pain.
We have my MIL and 24 yr old son living with us because neither can afford to live on their own. DH and I make good money and it still feels like we are constantly redoing our budget because of the cost of things.
I keep hoping something changes with the economy but I fear this is the new normal.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Apr 16, 2024 13:43:59 GMT
The cost of everything has gone up so much. And I don’t even mean food. Getting a contractor to do work has gone up so much since Covid began. And things like getting a new roof? Yikes. I paid about $9000 in 2005 for a roof, and that was average for my area. Now a new roof will be almost double that. I know that everything is more expensive, but that seems extreme to me. Of course I could spend less, but I want a roof that will last. I had drains put alongside my house for drainage, and between 2019 and 2021 ( which is how long I had to wait for this company), the price went up nearly $2000. Incredible. And don’t get me started on the cost of buying a car. I know that contractors have had to increase their prices, but it does seem excessive. A big part of those high costs are the costs of raw materials. We see it every day with DH’s business, he has had to raise his prices not because he’s charging more for his labor at all but because the cost of all the materials he works with has more than doubled over the past few years. It started back with the Covid shortages and then prices just never came back down even after supplies went back to normal. When prices started to noticeably skyrocket, he really started shopping around and started buying a lot more from an online supplier or Amazon because the prices were so much less than the local place (which is a huge nationwide business itself, so you know they aren’t paying wholesale). They were really price gouging because they can, for convenience. But even the online supplier place’s prices have gone up. Even things like a basic 2”x4”x8’ piece of lumber costs exponentially more than it used to. We needed some for a project at our lake cabin and DH about choked when he saw it was going for over $5-6 apiece, and when you go to the lumber yard to buy it, it’s all twisted and split crap. Our neighbors at the cabin rebuilt their place last spring/summer and they had to scale back their project by at least a third because the materials costs had gone up so much between the time they had their plans drawn and when they found a reputable contractor to actually do the build. We were so glad we did ours when we did in 2018-2019 because we wouldn’t have been able to finish ours like we did at the current costs. As it was we did as much of the work as we could ourselves to cut the labor costs down. Meanwhile, all of the big corporations are raking it in hand over fist making billions upon billions in profits. ETA: I just wanted to add that 2005 was almost 20 years ago now. I’m not sure how much more I would expect something like a roof to cost but I think I wouldn’t expect it to cost anywhere close to the same after that much time. I think a better comparison would be for the last 3-7 years, and even in that time frame things have gone up considerably.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Apr 16, 2024 13:46:27 GMT
and it is a shocker when you are retired and you don't have insurance covering everything.. thank goodness for medicare. just spent $250 at my annual eye exam. still need to pay $350 for my year of contacts. I can cover it.. but medical costs can be unexpected as you age. You know, what idiot decided that vision & dental weren’t healthcare? I know in ocean county NJ people joke quite a lot about the number of accidents that elder drivers get into and I have to wonder how many of them just don’t get eye exams & new glasses? I know my glasses are $700+ due to a 9.5 & 10 prescription, lightweight so they don’t give me a head ache, frames & I spend $100 of that to get a sunglasses attachment. So how are people on Medicaid or disability supposed to get $600/year? Anyway sorry for the off topic rant. Yes, the cost of living is getting higher it’s all going to the billionaires & corporate profits. It’s out of control. I think you hit the nail right on the head there. That’s where all the profits are going, straight to the top.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Apr 16, 2024 14:01:56 GMT
Check if your neighborhood has a Buy-Nothing group on Facebook. Not only can you give stuff away (sometimes broken stuff someone handy wants to try to fix) but you can request things on there... like you can ask if someone planted too many veggie starts and has extras to give away. The library is also another resource, mine doesn't have a tool lending library (I wish they did, the ones I've seen online look awesome), but one near me is starting a seed library where you can trade plant seeds (or something, I don't know because I haven't done it yet.) so you don't have to buy 100 tomato seeds when you only wanted three plants. Hang in there! I’m a HUGE fan of our local Buy Nothing group! I’ve given and received countless useful items through my group. I can’t believe the wide variety of perfectly nice things people offer up, and in turn I also offer up nice things we no longer use vs. dropping it off for donation. What I like best about that group is that it’s limited to only local people right in my specific area, so I know the items are going to others right in my community. My favorite part is that when I want to part with something I no longer need, I don’t have to go any further than my front porch and the people come right to me and take it away. It’s pretty awesome.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Apr 16, 2024 14:16:41 GMT
I appreciate the tips everyone. I'll manage to get by, I always do. I just want more than to "get by" at this point, you know? I want to take short trips without being concerned and buy the expensive package of chicken at Costco. I want to pay my propane bill in one go, not make payments every month. and it is a shocker when you are retired and you don't have insurance covering everything.. thank goodness for medicare. just spent $250 at my annual eye exam. still need to pay $350 for my year of contacts. I can cover it.. but medical costs can be unexpected as you age. I've spent most of my adult life without health insurance. My job now offers it but the deductible is so high and coverage is so low that I'm scared to use it. I spend about $350 on years when I get new glasses even using my insurance. I can't fathom having insurance that actually covers "everything". One of the ladies I work with just got her first mammogram.... and a $400 bill to go with it. SMH. If you live near a Costco you might want to check them out. We have found their glasses to be much cheaper than other places where we can use our insurance. I thought preventative care like a mammogram was supposed to be included in insurance snd not an extra cost. Ouch. There might be cheaper options for next time - planned parenthood maybe?
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Post by craftedbys on Apr 16, 2024 14:18:34 GMT
I feel you. It seems like our entire married life that as soon as we get a few hundred dollars ahead, the universe decides to screw with us.
Dear CraftedbyS and family, I hear that you have an extra $200 by scrimping and saving and doing without. Well, we can't have that, now can we. Here's a vet bill/car repair/doctor's copay/broken appliance bill for $400. FU and see you next month, The Universe.
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Post by workingclassdog on Apr 16, 2024 14:41:48 GMT
I KNOW exactly how you feel.. I'm 55 and thought for sure I would be in a better place by now. COL is just crazy these days. Our little trip for our 30th anniversary to NYC is costing us and we NEVER celebrate like this. DH is like we are doing it no matter what. We have never treated ourselves that much. But after this trip we are buckling down on our next steps in life. We are getting 'that' age. Seriously probably will have to move out of our state as we just can't justify the cost of living here. We have a couple of ATVs that a couple of years ago it was no big deal. Now we can't even take them to our place we love (Moab, UT) as the cost of staying there has doubled in just the last year alone. So since we don't ride that often why keep them? During Covid, we were both making really good money, but since that has now passed, that extra income disappeared.
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Post by disneypal on Apr 16, 2024 14:57:37 GMT
I feel you. It seems like our entire married life that as soon as we get a few hundred dollars ahead, the universe decides to screw with us. Dear CraftedbyS and family, I hear that you have an extra $200 by scrimping and saving and doing without. Well, we can't have that, now can we. Here's a vet bill/car repair/doctor's copay/broken appliance bill for $400. FU and see you next month, The Universe. It sure feels like that doesn't it. Seems like every time I get a little saved up, I get hit with something, like an unexpected vet bill or a nail in my tire or something...It's so hard to get a little ahead.
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Post by scrapcat on Apr 16, 2024 17:49:25 GMT
I hear you and it does suck. My coverage through the water bill for the sewer lines keeps going up, but I am afraid if I discontinue that's when something will happen. I have a few house projects that just keep getting pushed back. I was getting bummed about it, but now I'm like oh well, will get to it when I can. And the vet bills as well as their vet diets are killing me too! But I love them.
Because of travel and costs, I am skipping garden this year. I bought some packets of wildflowers to attract pollinators. We've also been keeping our potted plants alive in the garage the past few seasons since our winters are more mild, instead of buying all new each spring.
I honestly don't know how families do it...I can only do what I do because I do not have to support anyone else.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Apr 16, 2024 17:53:42 GMT
I KNOW exactly how you feel.. I'm 55 and thought for sure I would be in a better place by now. COL is just crazy these days. Our little trip for our 30th anniversary to NYC is costing us and we NEVER celebrate like this. DH is like we are doing it no matter what. We have never treated ourselves that much. But after this trip we are buckling down on our next steps in life. We are getting 'that' age. Seriously probably will have to move out of our state as we just can't justify the cost of living here. We have a couple of ATVs that a couple of years ago it was no big deal. Now we can't even take them to our place we love (Moab, UT) as the cost of staying there has doubled in just the last year alone. So since we don't ride that often why keep them? During Covid, we were both making really good money, but since that has now passed, that extra income disappeared. Give yourself a very generous budget for food in NYC. I went in knowing it was going to be expensive, but it's frankly ridiculously expensive. I refused to spend $30 for hotel breakfast and ended up in diner spending $30 - I'm sure it's better if you're not in heart of touristy stuff, but it was crazy how expensive everything was there!
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Post by chaosisapony on Apr 16, 2024 20:16:00 GMT
I feel you. It seems like our entire married life that as soon as we get a few hundred dollars ahead, the universe decides to screw with us. Dear CraftedbyS and family, I hear that you have an extra $200 by scrimping and saving and doing without. Well, we can't have that, now can we. Here's a vet bill/car repair/doctor's copay/broken appliance bill for $400. FU and see you next month, The Universe. Yes, this exactly! Like last month I was feeling like "ok, this isn't great but I have it handled" and then my laptop broke and it needed to be repaired. For $450. Ok no worries I have an interest free credit card. Then I after the recent rains I look at the back of the house and some of my siding has mushrooms growing out of it. I have a leaky bathroom window that is beyond my ability to fix. I am ignoring the mushrooms and the window because what else am I supposed to do at this point? My prepaid for trip is literally 2 days at a coast 3 hours from home. Because even affording that was a stretch. I'll never be able to go on a true vacation. I've been applying for new jobs but I'm not getting anywhere. Really the only light at the end of the tunnel is that my work is doing a salary study and they anticipate we'll be given significant adjustments in the next fiscal year. We'll see.
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Post by chaosisapony on Apr 16, 2024 20:21:08 GMT
Call the phone company and ask for the loyalty department, we do it every two years and have our home phone down to eighteen dollars a month. Shop around for somewhere to change your oil to save money. If your freezer is full eat from it and your pantry for the next month Oh yes, I have full months where I don't eat anything that isn't in the freezer apart from fresh produce. I found a coupon for the oil change today that saved $10 which was great. And then upon payment the tech was like "It's going to ask if you'd like to leave a tip..." and he's staring right at me a foot from my face so I left $2. What the hell even is this anymore. Called Directv and got my previous balance cleared and secured a discount for a year by threatening (nicely) to cancel. So that's cool. I have TONS of seeds and I would love to send you some! Please let me know what you're looking to plant this year and DM me your address. I'll put a seed care package in the mail for you. You are so kind! Thank you for your offer, truly. I have plenty of seeds and plant starts what I need is irrigation supplies and infrastructure like t posts fence panels to make a trellis. I'll get it figured out or it will just have to wait until next year.
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Post by peabay on Apr 16, 2024 20:22:32 GMT
The cost of everything has gone up so much. And I don’t even mean food. Getting a contractor to do work has gone up so much since Covid began. And things like getting a new roof? Yikes. I paid about $9000 in 2005 for a roof, and that was average for my area. Now a new roof will be almost double that. I know that everything is more expensive, but that seems extreme to me. Of course I could spend less, but I want a roof that will last. I had drains put alongside my house for drainage, and between 2019 and 2021 ( which is how long I had to wait for this company), the price went up nearly $2000. Incredible. And don’t get me started on the cost of buying a car. I know that contractors have had to increase their prices, but it does seem excessive. A big part of those high costs are the costs of raw materials. We see it every day with DH’s business, he has had to raise his prices not because he’s charging more for his labor at all but because the cost of all the materials he works with has more than doubled over the past few years. It started back with the Covid shortages and then prices just never came back down even after supplies went back to normal. When prices started to noticeably skyrocket, he really started shopping around and started buying a lot more from an online supplier or Amazon because the prices were so much less than the local place (which is a huge nationwide business itself, so you know they aren’t paying wholesale). They were really price gouging because they can, for convenience. But even the online supplier place’s prices have gone up. Even things like a basic 2”x4”x8’ piece of lumber costs exponentially more than it used to. We needed some for a project at our lake cabin and DH about choked when he saw it was going for over $5-6 apiece, and when you go to the lumber yard to buy it, it’s all twisted and split crap. Our neighbors at the cabin rebuilt their place last spring/summer and they had to scale back their project by at least a third because the materials costs had gone up so much between the time they had their plans drawn and when they found a reputable contractor to actually do the build. We were so glad we did ours when we did in 2018-2019 because we wouldn’t have been able to finish ours like we did at the current costs. As it was we did as much of the work as we could ourselves to cut the labor costs down. Meanwhile, all of the big corporations are raking it in hand over fist making billions upon billions in profits.
ETA: I just wanted to add that 2005 was almost 20 years ago now. I’m not sure how much more I would expect something like a roof to cost but I think I wouldn’t expect it to cost anywhere close to the same after that much time. I think a better comparison would be for the last 3-7 years, and even in that time frame things have gone up considerably. That.
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