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Copics
Dec 21, 2014 0:08:10 GMT
Post by streetscrapper on Dec 21, 2014 0:08:10 GMT
I have accumulated quite a collection of Copic markers but have hardly ever used them. I've tried to use them but my colouring skills are nothing to be proud of, so they sit unused. I recently took the Copic class from Online Card Classes and it was spectacular! I loved it, and even didn't do too badly with the "homework". But since the class ended, my Copics, once again, sit unused. So last night I decided to give them another try and use them for a card for my daughter's upcoming 21st birthday. It took me all night but I finally was able to get the colouring done well enough to make me proud of the card (it's by no means anything like what you see online, but it's pretty good for me!) Feeling a little more confident, today I broke out my brand new Stamping Bella Uptown Girl Stamps and decided to keep going with the Copics. I have a garbage pail full of Neenah White and what looks like a "muddy marker mess". Maybe the stamps are too detailed but I just couldn't get the colours to blend properly and look even close to half decent no matter what I tried. I realize it takes "practice" but how much practice? Ok, I'm a perfectionist and more than a little impatient, but how much cardstock do I have to go through before I get the hang of Copics? Do you have any tips for colouring with these?
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Dec 21, 2014 2:18:33 GMT
Post by CeeScraps on Dec 21, 2014 2:18:33 GMT
If I remember Stamping Bella stamps have small sections. Work with images that have larger areas to color. It does take practice. If an image is too detailed it is hard to do. I have heard of people heat embossing an image to help the colors to stay within each section.
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Dec 21, 2014 2:42:49 GMT
Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Dec 21, 2014 2:42:49 GMT
What ink are you stamping with?
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Dec 21, 2014 3:11:08 GMT
Post by AngieandSnoopy on Dec 21, 2014 3:11:08 GMT
I was told that the (heat) embossing would "break down" and ruin the tips of the Copics and not to emboss the images before coloring. I hated to hear that, that was my favorite thing to do before I colored images with pencils.
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Dec 21, 2014 5:14:00 GMT
Post by streetscrapper on Dec 21, 2014 5:14:00 GMT
I'm using Memento ink to stamp the image - it's not that ink that's "bleeding"... It's the Copics! They're making a mess! Yes, the stamp I'm using is pretty intricate - lots of detail - maybe I should start off with something larger and less detailed... And yes, heat embossing will damage your Copic markers - definitely NOT recommended...
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Dec 21, 2014 5:36:50 GMT
Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Dec 21, 2014 5:36:50 GMT
I'm using Memento ink to stamp the image - it's not that ink that's "bleeding"... It's the Copics! They're making a mess! Yes, the stamp I'm using is pretty intricate - lots of detail - maybe I should start off with something larger and less detailed... And yes, heat embossing will damage your Copic markers - definitely NOT recommended... Hm. I'm not sure what to tell you then. I can't say I've ever had that problem, though I have screwed up my coloring before, for sure. You could maybe try a different paper to see if that works out better for you. |
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Dec 22, 2014 2:32:42 GMT
Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 2:32:42 GMT
Have you tried CC Designs Copic paper or the X-press it by copic? THose are great papers to use...I don't like neenah for copics, some people swear by it but I find it bleeds more than the two brands above mentioned brands. Those are the papers I use. Hope that helps.
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Dec 22, 2014 3:10:20 GMT
Post by meplusthree on Dec 22, 2014 3:10:20 GMT
I agree with thecatsmeow. I haven't tried the CC Designs Copic paper, but I've tried the X-Press It and the Neenah. I was given a pack of Neenah and didn't like it with my Copics, and had much better success with the X-Press It paper. It might be a little more pricier, but for me the results were worth it.
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Dec 22, 2014 6:00:27 GMT
Post by AerynK on Dec 22, 2014 6:00:27 GMT
Copic XPress It on amazon is pretty cheap. I'd get that.
I didn't like Neenah either. Bleeds like crazy unless you're super careful IMO, your mileage may vary.
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Dec 22, 2014 21:15:41 GMT
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Post by streetscrapper on Dec 22, 2014 21:15:41 GMT
Thanks for the paper suggestions! I've always heard that Neenah was the way to go for copics but I'm having bleeding issues like crazy! I'll definitely try the others! Hopefully that's all I need!
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Dec 22, 2014 22:04:00 GMT
Post by momtomy2 on Dec 22, 2014 22:04:00 GMT
I agree, it's probably the paper. Which Neenah are you using? If it's the Neenah that you can get from Walmart or Target, it is not good for coloring. Neenah bought Georgia Pacific out and renamed a cheaper paper as their own. I think their heavier weight cardstock is better. I always have good luck with the x-press it.
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Dec 23, 2014 0:22:01 GMT
Post by streetscrapper on Dec 23, 2014 0:22:01 GMT
I agree, it's probably the paper. Which Neenah are you using? If it's the Neenah that you can get from Walmart or Target, it is not good for coloring. Neenah bought Georgia Pacific out and renamed a cheaper paper as their own. I think their heavier weight cardstock is better. I always have good luck with the x-press it. I bought 80lb from Simon Says Stamp. I also have a 100lb that I bought a long time ago from a LSS that no longer exists-not sure what brand it is but maybe I should give it a try too! |
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Dec 23, 2014 12:42:34 GMT
Post by CeeScraps on Dec 23, 2014 12:42:34 GMT
I've used both the Georgia Pacific from Walmart and Neenah. I really like Neenah.
If the image you are stamping has open sections...a line stops - space - line starts again - then your ink will run. The ink escapes the lines that way. I have the Copic pens and I complete those incompleted lines to keep the ink within the space. I have to do that a lot with Art Impressions stamps. They have a lot of incompleted lines on their images.
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Post by CeeScraps on Dec 23, 2014 12:53:53 GMT
These were done using Neenah. Magnolia images usually don't have lines that aren't connected.   |
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Post by kitbop on Dec 23, 2014 14:30:13 GMT
I agree about Neenah - I get more feathering than with my other copic papers.
Also, in small areas, just touch the copic tip to the paper and give it a moment to "spread" and dry before adding more. I've found that the smaller the area, the more careful you have to be about ink overload.
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Dec 24, 2014 11:40:27 GMT
Post by streetscrapper on Dec 24, 2014 11:40:27 GMT
Ceescraps, your colouring skills are amazing! Lovely cards! I'm nowhere near that yet. The stamp I was using was really good insofar as the lines being connected, it's just really intricate and small and I think its a combination of the paper as well as my colouring. I think I'm applying to much ink to the paper and not allowing it to spread and dry on its own. It's the lack of patience in me I guess. I am going to order the Copic X-Press It paper to give that a try, and I'll also give the Neenah another try but do my best to use less ink. I'm pretty good with skin tones and now I realize that's probably the case because I don't want to overdue it and make the skin too dark so I stay away from using a lot of ink. But when it comes to colouring everything else, I seem to lack the "less is more" attitude so I'll try again!
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Post by penny on Dec 24, 2014 13:18:20 GMT
It might the paper... Some cardstock I've used lets the colours/shades bleed too much and I don't get the nice gradations of colour or shadowing etc... I've never used or felt Neenah White, but it could be that the fibres or coating (or lack of) on that paper doesn't work with small spaces/detailed stamps... Long fibres can move ink farther and if you have lots on ink in a small space, they can be moved into each other... Try some of the paper made for use with Copics for those really detailed images  Oops, someone else already mentioned paper... I use the Copic Xpress for finely detailed images and haven't had any problems... I use a heavy weight cardstock type paper from Staples (that I use for printables), for larger images and have no problems with that for larger images, but don't like it for the smaller/detailed images... When I was starting out and didn't have many colours I also found myself putting lots of ink on, trying to make a colour darker - darker than was possible for that colour if that makes sense... Now, if I want a darker shade I'll use a darker marker... It was almost scary at first to add a new darker colour, but be brave! lol I try to remember that especially when I'm colouring a die cut or something that I can't get too much into onto/into... I'll choose shadowing colours that are a bit darker than I'd normally use because I know I can't add/blend as much as I normally could... |
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Dec 28, 2014 1:57:44 GMT
Post by Leone on Dec 28, 2014 1:57:44 GMT
I've even taken the teacher certification class. Plus an entire series from Jenn Dove who does Coptic retreats all over. Well, after all that, mine too sat on the shelf. Ijust last week I jpassed them on to a 15 year old who is really into Manga. For me, they were simply a fad.
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Dec 29, 2014 23:21:41 GMT
Post by FurryP on Dec 29, 2014 23:21:41 GMT
CeeScraps if you come back to this thread....what colors did you use for the skin? Thanks!
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Dec 30, 2014 1:05:27 GMT
Post by CeeScraps on Dec 30, 2014 1:05:27 GMT
I use the E000 + E01 + R02 (cheeks). I've used darker skin colors and don't care for what they end up looking like.
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Post by JustTricia on Dec 30, 2014 13:04:16 GMT
Holy cow, CeeScraps! Did you fussy cut all that or did you have dies?!? They're beautiful! |
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Post by CeeScraps on Dec 30, 2014 13:40:12 GMT
I did fussy cut them. It took awhile but I really like the results.
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Jan 1, 2015 21:50:41 GMT
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Post by Freefallfast on Jan 1, 2015 21:50:41 GMT
I am confused about the heat gun.
So i stamp an image.usually with black memento ink pad.
Then I use the heat gun to set the image.
let it cool.
Then I color it using Copics.
All good.
unless I use crappy paper.
How can this be bad for my Copic markers? I must be misunderstanding. ....
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Jan 1, 2015 21:56:38 GMT
Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Jan 1, 2015 21:56:38 GMT
I am confused about the heat gun. So i stamp an image.usually with black memento ink pad. Then I use the heat gun to set the image. let it cool. Then I color it using Copics. All good. unless I use crappy paper. How can this be bad for my Copic markers? I must be misunderstanding. .... It's fine if you're just heat setting (aka, drying) the image. It's a problem if you use embossing powder (stamp, powder, heat gun to melt the powder) as your means of setting the image-- the embossing powder can damage the marker tips. I personally have never heat set a memento ink image before using copics. Never been a problem. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2015 3:41:49 GMT
You don't need to heat set Memento ink, just stamp and color.
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Jan 3, 2015 19:24:41 GMT
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Post by Freefallfast on Jan 3, 2015 19:24:41 GMT
Oh good to know. About the memento ink.
So if you heat embossed your image, coloring with Copic will damage the tips?
I just started getting back into embossing.
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Jan 3, 2015 21:53:07 GMT
Post by streetscrapper on Jan 3, 2015 21:53:07 GMT
Oh good to know. About the memento ink. So if you heat embossed your image, coloring with Copic will damage the tips? I just started getting back into embossing. If you use embossing powder, you can damage your Copic markers. |
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