CeeScraps
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Post by CeeScraps on May 18, 2024 22:47:39 GMT
Good grief take your ammo out of your luggage before you travel!
On the news they just showed the fifth American since February that is been detained. She posted $15,000 in bail, but has to remain on the island and check into authorities once a day.
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valincal
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Post by valincal on May 18, 2024 23:02:19 GMT
Wow!
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Post by Darcy Collins on May 18, 2024 23:08:38 GMT
Love, love, love Turks and Caicos! We've been twice and will go again in a few weeks. The diving there is spectacular! I can't begin to imagine why it's difficult to remove your ammo from your bags, not an issue for us - but guess it helps that there's never ammo in our bags.
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Post by quiltz on May 18, 2024 23:13:17 GMT
Good grief take your ammo out of your luggage before you travel! On the news they just showed the fifth American since February that is been detained. She posted $15,000 in bail, but has to remain on the island and check into authorities once a day. There was a thread about this a week or so ago. I don't understand Americans and the love of guns.  |
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Post by Merge on May 18, 2024 23:15:37 GMT
I wonder how many tourists from other countries have run afoul of this law.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 18, 2024 23:31:17 GMT
I wonder how many tourists from other countries have run afoul of this law. Few, of any.... |
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Tearisci
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Post by Tearisci on May 18, 2024 23:43:42 GMT
Good grief take your ammo out of your luggage before you travel! On the news they just showed the fifth American since February that is been detained. She posted $15,000 in bail, but has to remain on the island and check into authorities once a day I don't understand Americans and the love of guns. This American doesn't understand it and will never have a gun even though I'm a singleton living by myself. I've never felt the desire to arm myself. |
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keithurbanlovinpea
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Post by keithurbanlovinpea on May 19, 2024 0:18:08 GMT
A responsible gun owner would always know if they packed ammo on a trip and whether they used it all, and if not, how much was left. Then they would promptly remove anything left and store it properly.
But Americans love their guns so much and it's easy to get one (plus ammo) that every Tom, Dick and Harry has one with little to no education, especially around safety.
If you really want to be scared, think about how many people are carrying a weapon with a round in the chamber and no safety engaged and/or the trigger not properly protected.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 19, 2024 0:45:48 GMT
A responsible gun owner would always know if they packed ammo on a trip and whether they used it all, and if not, how much was left. Then they would promptly remove anything left and store it properly. But Americans love their guns so much and it's easy to get one (plus ammo) that every Tom, Dick and Harry has one with little to no education, especially around safety. If you really want to be scared, think about how many people are carrying a weapon with a round in the chamber and no safety engaged and/or the trigger not properly protected. Several things: It is NOT easy to get a gun in NJ. Although there are people who travel to get them illegally. It is harder to get a permit to carry at all. And there are many of the illegal kind. Years ago as a driver I decided I would not become involved in any kind of road rage not knowing who might have a gun. Not worth my life! Unfortunately NJ is part of the corridor between to South and NYC. |
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Post by carhoch on May 19, 2024 0:50:07 GMT
Every body knows that traveling to another country with any kind of weapon or amo is illegal , I don’t feel sorry them at all .
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 19, 2024 0:58:19 GMT
Every body knows that traveling to another country with any kind of weapon or amo is illegal , I don’t feel sorry them at all . It is also illegal to try to board a plane with a gun/amo on person or in a carry on. Reported unloaded guns may be secured in checked luggage with proper paperwork and notification. |
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Post by Merge on May 19, 2024 1:01:08 GMT
A responsible gun owner would always know if they packed ammo on a trip and whether they used it all, and if not, how much was left. Then they would promptly remove anything left and store it properly. But Americans love their guns so much and it's easy to get one (plus ammo) that every Tom, Dick and Harry has one with little to no education, especially around safety. If you really want to be scared, think about how many people are carrying a weapon with a round in the chamber and no safety engaged and/or the trigger not properly protected. And who leave it in their unattended car so it can be easily stolen and used by criminals, or who keep it unsecured in their home so that their kid can use it to shoot a sibling or take it school. Or who think they’re John Wayne and pull it out to shoot someone committing a property crime, endangering everyone else in the process, or who pull out their gun to be the hero and get mistaken by police for the bad guy and killed, or who take it to a protest and shoot someone and then get acquitted or pardoned. I’m convinced that the stupid and dangerous gun owners far, far outnumber the responsible ones. |
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tracylynn
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Post by tracylynn on May 19, 2024 3:41:12 GMT
Honestly, I got these idiots do get put in prison.
Americans need to learn that when they travel out of Country the US rules don't apply anymore.
And I'm tired of these people doing Go Fund Me for legal fees and crying for leniency. You aren't owed anything.
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Post by littlemama on May 19, 2024 11:56:13 GMT
I do think 12 years is excessive for ammo, however, I also believe the penalties for a lot of crimes are excessive in thie country as well.
That being said, these people are absolute morons. I search all of my luggage thoroughly before I fly anywhere, even though I know I dont have anything in there I shouldnt.
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Post by librarylady on May 19, 2024 14:00:58 GMT
I don't comprehend the mindset of individuals who MUST have a gun with them at all times. If I thought a place was so dangerous I needed a gun I would not travel there.
We also don't have a handgun of any type. We have hunting rifles and that's it.
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Post by epeanymous on May 19, 2024 16:47:57 GMT
I’ve posted about this before but growing up in a house with unsecured guns and ammunition was really upsetting for young me, and I just don’t get people having ammo rolling around in their luggage. Fine, you went on a hunting trip (I guess). When you got home, why didn’t you carefully lock all of that back up?
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Post by peasapie on May 20, 2024 9:50:37 GMT
A responsible gun owner would always know if they packed ammo on a trip and whether they used it all, and if not, how much was left. Then they would promptly remove anything left and store it properly. But Americans love their guns so much and it's easy to get one (plus ammo) that every Tom, Dick and Harry has one with little to no education, especially around safety. If you really want to be scared, think about how many people are carrying a weapon with a round in the chamber and no safety engaged and/or the trigger not properly protected. Several things: It is NOT easy to get a gun in NJ. Although there are people who travel to get them illegally. It is harder to get a permit to carry at all. And there are many of the illegal kind. Years ago as a driver I decided I would not become involved in any kind of road rage not knowing who might have a gun. Not worth my life! Unfortunately NJ is part of the corridor between to South and NYC. Agreed. It’s not easy to get or carry a gun everywhere. Much of the northeast and west coast require licensing with background check, references, waiting time etc. Why people are carrying bullets onto an airplane escapes me, but it’s a good question to explore. Maybe it’s intentional for some reason. |
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Post by sueg on May 20, 2024 9:56:34 GMT
Why people are carrying bullets onto an airplane escapes me, but it’s a good question to explore. Maybe it’s intentional for some reason. It seems odd to me that there have been so many in the past 3 months. Maybe they have always been happening, but suddenly they are getting more attention? Also, why are they not being picked up by airport security BEFORE people fly? |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 20, 2024 10:55:05 GMT
Why people are carrying bullets onto an airplane escapes me, but it’s a good question to explore. Maybe it’s intentional for some reason. It seems odd to me that there have been so many in the past 3 months. Maybe they have always been happening, but suddenly they are getting more attention? Also, why are they not being picked up by airport security BEFORE people fly? Yes!! TSA failures.. Although several were leaving T&C, could they have bought/acquired them there? |
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Post by compeateropeator on May 20, 2024 12:15:42 GMT
It seems odd to me that there have been so many in the past 3 months. Maybe they have always been happening, but suddenly they are getting more attention? Also, why are they not being picked up by airport security BEFORE people fly? Yes!! TSA failures.. Although several were leaving T&C, could they have bought/acquired them there? I agree that it seems like a lot all at once but I think much of it is that Turks and Caicos just enacted their new laws in 2022. I, also, think that with the Pandemic and all of a sudden travel is just exploding again so we are hearing more stories. I also think that they should have been picked up by TSA but nothing is 100% (or very few things 😄) and just a very small % of missed “things” during security screenings are enough to allow people to get through with things like this. While they should have been found, it is ultimately the ammunition owner’s responsibility to make sure they were compliant. I feel very badly for them and hope they can resolved it and get home but hopefully people will now be much more aware of things. |
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Post by dawnnikol on May 20, 2024 12:17:10 GMT
Unless your head is just completely in the sand, you had to have seen at least one of the stories on the news about the people being arrested for flying with ammo. You'd think at some point it might click to double check your luggage... Above and beyond the TSA, take some personal responsibility.
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Post by crazy4scraps on May 20, 2024 12:57:39 GMT
A responsible gun owner would always know if they packed ammo on a trip and whether they used it all, and if not, how much was left. Then they would promptly remove anything left and store it properly. But Americans love their guns so much and it's easy to get one (plus ammo) that every Tom, Dick and Harry has one with little to no education, especially around safety. If you really want to be scared, think about how many people are carrying a weapon with a round in the chamber and no safety engaged and/or the trigger not properly protected. OMG. DH’s friend’s ex was out at a bar with her new boyfriend and they thought it would be a good idea to pull out their concealed guns to show them off to each other. When she went to put hers back in her purse, it went off and she shot herself in the foot.   So dumb. For real. |
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Post by smasonnc on May 20, 2024 13:12:25 GMT
And I'm tired of these people doing Go Fund Me for legal fees and crying for leniency. You aren't owed anything. "Please donate to my criminal stupidity fund!" Ugh! It seems odd to me that there have been so many in the past 3 months. Maybe they have always been happening, but suddenly they are getting more attention? Also, why are they not being picked up by airport security BEFORE people fly? Maybe after they caught the first guys, they're checking harder. How about some personal responsibility? I don't want to leave it up to TSA to keep me from getting thrown into a Caribbean jail. |
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Post by smartypants71 on May 20, 2024 13:46:10 GMT
It seems odd to me that there have been so many in the past 3 months. Maybe they have always been happening, but suddenly they are getting more attention? Also, why are they not being picked up by airport security BEFORE people fly? Yes!! TSA failures.. Although several were leaving T&C, could they have bought/acquired them there? I just returned from there on Saturday. When we arrived, we went through immigration, picked up bags and walked out of the airport. Unless they scan the baggage somewhere prior to being put on the carousel, there was no bag search. The security process to exit the country was hectic, and I didn't feel like any of our things were overly scrutinized. In fact, I felt pretty rushed through the process. Regardless, I seriously doubt they could have acquired them while on the island. |
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Post by iowgirl on May 20, 2024 15:02:19 GMT
I don't understand Americans and the love of guns. This American doesn't understand it and will never have a gun even though I'm a singleton living by myself. I've never felt the desire to arm myself. I own guns. I can't say that I "love" guns, but I do have a need for them. I also have some that family owned and passed down through generations with great fondness attached to them (from hunting together, etc). A responsible gun owner would always know if they packed ammo on a trip and whether they used it all, and if not, how much was left. Then they would promptly remove anything left and store it properly. This! It should be immediatly addressed when returning home from something that you have packed a firearm and ammunition. First thing. I’ve posted about this before but growing up in a house with unsecured guns and ammunition was really upsetting for young me, and I just don’t get people having ammo rolling around in their luggage. Fine, you went on a hunting trip (I guess). When you got home, why didn’t you carefully lock all of that back up? Our house rule was all firearms clean and secured as soon as they came in the house. Ammunition secured in a different locked safe. My son was at a school sponsored function that involved firearms. He questioned the safety practice to the sponsor, as he felt uncomfortable how the guns were being handled. The adult teacher disregarded him, so he told him "I am not comfortable with this situation and I am leaving" - thankfully nothing bad happened that day, but I was sure proud of my kid for doing this. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 20, 2024 15:18:23 GMT
iowgirl thanks. You have shared that account from your DS previously. Yes, you should be very proud as we all should be!
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Post by Sparki on May 20, 2024 16:02:10 GMT
How did they get it onto the flight in the first place? How did it get through the scanners? I've been wondering if the ammo was planted on these people for some reason.
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keithurbanlovinpea
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Post by keithurbanlovinpea on May 20, 2024 16:47:05 GMT
How did they get it onto the flight in the first place? How did it get through the scanners? I've been wondering if the ammo was planted on these people for some reason. It was in checked baggage. You can fly in the US with properly stored ammo in your checked bags. |
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Post by epeanymous on May 20, 2024 16:55:39 GMT
How did they get it onto the flight in the first place? How did it get through the scanners? I've been wondering if the ammo was planted on these people for some reason. It was in checked baggage. You can fly in the US with properly stored ammo in your checked bags. FWIW I don't actually know but none of the cases seem to describe situations where the ammo would have been properly stored for US purposes. |
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Post by epeanymous on May 20, 2024 16:58:28 GMT
And I'm tired of these people doing Go Fund Me for legal fees and crying for leniency. You aren't owed anything. "Please donate to my criminal stupidity fund!" Ugh! It seems odd to me that there have been so many in the past 3 months. Maybe they have always been happening, but suddenly they are getting more attention? Also, why are they not being picked up by airport security BEFORE people fly? Maybe after they caught the first guys, they're checking harder. How about some personal responsibility? I don't want to leave it up to TSA to keep me from getting thrown into a Caribbean jail. The governor of Oklahoma said the following: “The punishment here is just absurd,” Oklahoma Gov. Kevin Stitt told NewsNation’s “Morning in America” during an appearance on May 7. He suggested the U.S. consider banning travel to the islands. It is just gross that instead of telling Americans to stop taking ammo to a foreign country and violating their laws (after tons of news about these cases!) that an American executive would be encouraging a travel ban. Talk about lack of personal responsibility. What, we think other countries should change their laws to respect our American preference to travel with bullets in our bags? |
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So dumb. For real.
