dawnnikol
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Post by dawnnikol on May 30, 2024 20:42:25 GMT
I just read that, on top of states criminalizing women who have abortions, now 2 professors at The University of Texas at Austin are suing for the right to penalize students who miss class while getting an abortion. POS Professors filing.
I'm so fucking tired and I can't even imagine how the women in Texas feel. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 30, 2024 22:05:24 GMT
See how far we can go... I guess if you are married to Justice Alito your privacy AND freedom are safe!! ....Yet now he has granted his own wife the autonomy he has spent his career stripping from American women. He has emphatically granted her a right to privacy, rooted in a freedom to make individual choices, that he has denied to the rest of the country. Women unfortunate enough to lack powerful husbands don’t get to play the privacy card when they feel that their rights and dignity are under attack. Alito is comfortable, even gleeful, when eroding the rights of every other woman in the country, yet deeply uneasy about encroaching on those of his own cherished bride.*** .....the Justice’s wife “possesses the same First Amendment rights as every other American.” Plus, she is an “independently minded” person who “makes her own decisions,” Alito writes, “and I have always respected her right to do so.” He hits that point again later, elaborating that Martha-Ann “makes her own decisions, and I honor her right to do so.”slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/05/samuel-alito-flag-letter-jan-6-cases-wife-martha-ann.htmlThis is from the flag thread, but shows his attitude toward us, but apparently NOT at home.. |
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Post by withapea on May 30, 2024 22:45:01 GMT
There’s a whole movement to turn UT into a conservative university. The TX GOPers hate Austin and are big mad because it’s too liberal. ( it isn’t ). There’s no bottom. Being a woman on TX is really hard, I’d move if I could.
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Post by epeanymous on May 30, 2024 22:51:42 GMT
The answer is, “women shouldn’t vote” has become a less fringe position  . |
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Post by basketdiva on May 30, 2024 22:59:11 GMT
How is a professor to know why a student has missed class- all a person needs a signed doctor's note which certainly won't detail the health reason. Even if a student "looked pregnant on Monday but not on Friday, its not the professors place to ask. After all the student could have had miscarriage.
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Post by sabrinae on May 31, 2024 0:31:46 GMT
The answer is, “women shouldn’t vote” has become a less fringe position . I don’t think it’s currently a fringe position at all in the US. When one of the two primary parties has multiple prominent members who have said their goal is to control women and that women don’t need to vote or be part of the decision making process for the country. |
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Post by mollycoddle on May 31, 2024 0:39:09 GMT
These MAGATs and their evangelical buddies are exhausting. I really feel sorry for young women. They do not have the same rights that I had. And this is probably not the end of it. There will be more.
Although any sane woman in a red state will almost certainly do her best to keep that sort of info to herself if at all possible. The more people who know, the more likely that the Red State Stasi will find out about it.
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Post by crazy4scraps on May 31, 2024 2:09:39 GMT
How is a professor to know why a student has missed class- all a person needs a signed doctor's note which certainly won't detail the health reason. Even if a student "looked pregnant on Monday but not on Friday, it’s not the professors place to ask. After all the student could have had miscarriage. This was my thought too. How would anyone know whether someone missed class for an abortion or because they had Covid or the flu or one of a thousand other reasons why a person might be out sick? How bizarre. |
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Post by Merge on May 31, 2024 2:28:25 GMT
How is a professor to know why a student has missed class- all a person needs a signed doctor's note which certainly won't detail the health reason. Even if a student "looked pregnant on Monday but not on Friday, it’s not the professors place to ask. After all the student could have had miscarriage. This was my thought too. How would anyone know whether someone missed class for an abortion or because they had Covid or the flu or one of a thousand other reasons why a person might be out sick? How bizarre. Yeah, it strikes me as a largely symbolic measure. But the chilling effect these measures have on women feeling safe at school, in public, etc. can't be ignored. |
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Post by crazy4scraps on May 31, 2024 17:15:49 GMT
This was my thought too. How would anyone know whether someone missed class for an abortion or because they had Covid or the flu or one of a thousand other reasons why a person might be out sick? How bizarre. Yeah, it strikes me as a largely symbolic measure. But the chilling effect these measures have on women feeling safe at school, in public, etc. can't be ignored. Oh, I agree completely. It just adds to the oppressive dystopian atmosphere they’re trying to create. |
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Post by smasonnc on May 31, 2024 18:22:43 GMT
How is a professor to know why a student has missed class- all a person needs a signed doctor's note which certainly won't detail the health reason. This. Wouldn't it be a giant HIPPA violation for a provider to disclose an abortion? WTH are we coming to? |
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Post by peppermintpatty on May 31, 2024 18:33:43 GMT
Trust me, when these states realize that they cannot get any physicians to work in their state (which is already happening around the country in all the states that are seriously restricting women's rights), they will claim that this isn't what they wanted. Unfortunately, we haven't hit rock bottom yet.
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Post by Merge on May 31, 2024 18:41:45 GMT
Trust me, when these states realize that they cannot get any physicians to work in their state (which is already happening around the country in all the states that are seriously restricting women's rights), they will claim that this isn't what they wanted. Unfortunately, we haven't hit rock bottom yet. They don't care if people have access to healthcare, so what do they care if we don't have any physicians? We're going back to the days of herbal healers and lay midwives. Good times! |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 31, 2024 19:18:31 GMT
Birth those babies. If you die, oh well there are other women to have more babies...
Sorry to be harsh!
Trouble is other specializes will also leave practices in those states.. They will need to look out for their own families.
But wait... Back to if you got dollars they will know some one to take care of you with a D&C... Those without will be butchered in back alleys!! I know of classmates who went to others doctor daddy's to get decent medical care, and almost 70 years later I can still name names!!
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Post by casii on May 31, 2024 20:32:13 GMT
Ugh, I HATE this timeline. It makes me incandescent with rage that my daughters and granddaughters enjoy fewer freedoms than I did at their age. I will drag my female family members over a border, come back and raise hell if they think they're going to rob women of all autonomy.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jun 1, 2024 2:01:35 GMT
Birth those babies. If you die, oh well there are other women to have more babies... Sorry to be harsh! Trouble is other specializes will also leave practices in those states.. They will need to look out for their own families.But wait... Back to if you got dollars they will know some one take care of you with a D&C... Those without wil be butchered!! I know of classmates who went other's doctor daddy's to get decent medical care, and almost 70 years later I can still name names!! This is already happening too. Medical students are being very choosy about where they want to do their residencies based on whether they themselves (or their family members) would be able to access potentially needed care. This is especially true for female doctors who often put off having their own kids until they are through school, residency and are established in a practice somewhere. |
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Post by valincal on Jun 2, 2024 4:50:17 GMT
I remember when the baby stage Trumpsters at the old 2Peas in a Bucket would deride us non-Americans for our universal healthcare because **Government Should Not be Involved in Healthcare** but they were always perfectly fine with insurance companies dictating their doctors, hospitals and treatments. Now they get both. Yay!! 🥳🥳🥳🥳
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Post by dawnnikol on Jun 5, 2024 12:32:36 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 5, 2024 14:24:57 GMT
No one and I mean no one should be put through that, EVER!!!
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Post by Just T on Jun 5, 2024 15:12:37 GMT
That was so painful to watch. I had 4 miscarriages. Since Roe vs Wade was overturned, I often think about my first one. I was a senior in college. Suspected I was pregnant but was too scared to find out for sure, so I buried my head in the sand. Until the day I experienced horrible cramping and was profusely bleeding and took myself to the ER. I found out I was about 11 weeks pregnant, and I was miscarrying. I had a D&C right then. Scared out of my wits. Nowadays, that me would probably have had the police called on me as being suspected of having an abortion that went wrong. I also had a miscarriage years later at 13 weeks. Was given a D&C the day after discovering the baby I desperately wanted had no heartbeat. I can't believe the things that women have to deal with and go through now. I truly despise every person who is/was gleeful about Roe vs Wade being overturned. The ramifications go so far beyond women having abortions because they aren't ready for a baby. It also doesn't help that I live in a state with restrictive abortion laws now, and my daughter is 13 weeks pregnant. It is hard to not be terrified to think of my sweet girl having to go through some of the horrific things I have heard happening to women in the pregnancy loss support groups I facilitate. Anyone who is gleeful over Roe Vs Wade being overturned...this bullshit is on all of you. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 5, 2024 16:36:57 GMT
Just T sorry for your past medical issues and losses. There are no easy answers today. I truly am fearful for our future as women and our country. May your DD have a safe pregnancy. One of the best things is that she has you to help her!!
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Post by epeanymous on Jun 5, 2024 17:51:00 GMT
Thing is the people who are making this happen know women are going to die, become disabled, become infertile, and experience incredible mental health issues, but they are OK with all of that because they want to err on the side of dead women as opposed to on the side of women having abortions. They get it. That's why they're unpersuaded by these devastating stories. I won't ever forgive. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 5, 2024 18:13:06 GMT
Absolute total control of women.
And they claim pro-life, so not true. Liars ALL!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 5, 2024 18:28:27 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 5, 2024 18:45:48 GMT
This is partially in response to Clarence Thomas. One of his priorities... (Please understand I do not agree with him) Notably he has gone after, abortion, contraception, same sex marriage, but has blatantly ignored HIS situation with Loving v US.. "An overwhelming bipartisan majority of Americans support the Right to Contraception Act (81%), which aims to protect access to birth control pills, IUDs, condoms, and other forms of contraception," pollsters at Navigator Research report. That includes 90% of Democrats, 75% of Republicans, and 70% of independents. *** The bill goes on to note: "States have attempted to define abortion expansively so as to include contraceptives in State bans on abortion and have also restricted access to emergency contraception." *** But according to Republicans, led by far-right U.S. Senator Rick Scott of Florida (photo), the legislation, known as the Right to Contraception Act, "infringes on the parental rights and religious liberties of some Americans and lets the federal government force religious institutions and schools, even public elementary schools, to offer contraception like condoms to little kids. It’s just another way for Democrats to use activist attorneys and our courts to advance their radical agenda and that is why we oppose this bill.” The bill specifically states the federal Religious Freedom Restoration Act supersedes the Right to Contraception Act. Also appearing to be false is the claim the legislation provides "condoms to little kids." No text in the bill states condoms will be handed out to children.www.rawstory.com/condoms-to-little-kids-republicans-rejecting-contraception-bill-claim-religious-infring/Again, the GOP obsession with our bodies and sex over and over again! They truly have warped minds.. |
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Post by hop2 on Jun 5, 2024 21:10:00 GMT
As far as they can go.
If you’ve been paying attention, you’ve heard some GOP comment on:
how women shouldn’t be voting
How women shouldn’t be able to file for no fault divorce
How women shouldn’t be doing men’s jobs
Imo If the MAGAts are given the chance it is only a matter of time until women can’t have property, take out loans, have bank accounts.
They want women pregnant and in the kitchen & under control.
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Post by Gem Girl on Jun 5, 2024 23:00:05 GMT
Thank you Sen Patty Murray!! I agree. These people are monsters, willing to let women die. In the US more than a million miscarriages occur each year. They're not always complete. The death a woman faces if that is how she's left will be horrific. |
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Post by aj2hall on Jun 6, 2024 1:07:39 GMT
future for womenPoliticsGirl. @iampoliticsgirlSenate Republicans just voted against the Right to Contraception Act. You only need to look at Texas to see the future they’re planning for women.www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/30/texas-republicans-vote-death-penalty-abortion-providersTexas Republicans open to death penalty for abortion providers
GOP convention votes on wide-ranging platform including striking law protecting abortion providers from being charged with murder
newrepublic.com/post/182081/texas-republicans-death-penalty-abortion-patientsTexas Republicans Propose Horrific Punishment for Abortion Patients The Lone Star State GOP wants to make abortion punishable by death. Having some of the nation’s strictest abortion laws isn’t enough for the Texas GOP. Instead, Republicans in the Lone Star State are actually considering the death penalty as punishment for people who undergo the medical procedure.
A new platform proposed at the state’s GOP convention on Saturday included calls for legislation that would transform the fetal personhood ideology into law, which would effectively categorize any person receiving an abortion at any stage as a murderer.
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Post by sueg on Jun 6, 2024 6:31:56 GMT
Having some of the nation’s strictest abortion laws isn’t enough for the Texas GOP. Instead, Republicans in the Lone Star State are actually considering the death penalty as punishment for people who undergo the medical procedure. Real 'pro Life' of them there! But the irony is completely lost on them. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 6, 2024 15:23:48 GMT
Just mentioned on The View, what happens if some one decides you don't need more children and tie you tubes or you are the wrong color, will there be forced sterilization?
That was like a thunderbolt to me...
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