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Post by sabrinae on May 30, 2024 21:23:28 GMT
Lovely, but the online experts say it’s unlikely he’ll see jail time. Instead, he’ll continue to campaign on how abused and mistreated he is, and his cult members will lap it up. It’s extremely unlikely he will get any jail or prison time out of this. I’d be shocked if he got house arrest. Likely fines and some probationary terms which won’t impact his life because he will be given leeway as a presidential candidate. And he will appeal and likely be granted a stay on sentence until the appeal makes it way through the courts which will take past the election. But maybe it will be enough to move the needle for people planning on sitting out the election or the independents who were holding their noses and voting for trump. Although I don’t think there are many of those left. You either support Trump or see the dangers he poses and vote for someone who at least won’t throw our democracy away. |
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Post by uksue on May 30, 2024 21:24:40 GMT
Trump and Chad Daybell both convicted on the same day. Yay! I'm watching the penalty phase. I doubt he'll get DP. Watching his daughter lying did him made me nauseous and I wonder if ste will speak again. The Christopher Gregor trial is in verdict watch as well. |
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Post by monicad on May 30, 2024 21:25:28 GMT
What an amazing (not rigged) verdict!!!
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Post by naby64 on May 30, 2024 21:26:16 GMT
My FB has already started up with all the boohooing. I'm so sorry, can you snooze them all for 30 days?!? I can and I do but there are just so many. I, unfortunately, cannot snooze my DH. We have had many discussions and he will be voting R. He disagrees with this and that but he won't be swayed from that red vote. We had a moment on Monday and I realized this is something we will never agree on. So while I would love to dance into my house tonight, I will do my very damn best to not gloat. And there will be an appeal, and he will continue to campaign and spew his lies to the masses that will believe him. So I will be the bigger person and not say anything. |
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Post by sabrinae on May 30, 2024 21:27:31 GMT
Surely the average normal Republican voter would be unwilling to have a convicted POTUS on the world stage? I would never vote for someone who had been convicted as my countries political leader. This won’t even phase those who are Trump supporters and I don’t think there are “normal” Republicans left anymore — they eat their own if they are not all in on Trump. As we’ve seen time and again — those few who try to pretend they are not like Trump inevitably each back to I don’t like him but I’ll vote for him over any democratic candidate. |
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Post by workingclassdog on May 30, 2024 21:28:53 GMT
I'm so sorry, can you snooze them all for 30 days?!? I can and I do but there are just so many. I, unfortunately, cannot snooze my DH. We have had many discussions and he will be voting R. He disagrees with this and that but he won't be swayed from that red vote. We had a moment on Monday and I realized this is something we will never agree on. So while I would love to dance into my house tonight, I will do my very damn best to not gloat. And there will be an appeal, and he will continue to campaign and spew his lies to the masses that will believe him. So I will be the bigger person and not say anything. DH and I disagree on politics as well. This will be interesting. I'm not saying a WORD to him. Thankfully all our kids take after their mamma!  |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 30, 2024 21:29:27 GMT
It appears that convicted felons are not allowed to vote in Florida. Not sure if that applies if the conviction was in a different state. Would be pretty funny if Trump can’t even vote for himself. They have already discussed seeking DeSantis help to change the law for him or something to allow him to vote... But Florida has honored out of state rulings over the years. |
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Post by Tearisci on May 30, 2024 21:30:15 GMT
My sister and BIL as well as my former in-laws are Trump supporters but they are the only ones in my friends list and so far they've been quiet. We don't talk politics at all so I had to text my mom and other sister about the verdict.
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Post by MichyM on May 30, 2024 21:31:33 GMT
I'm so sorry, can you snooze them all for 30 days?!? I can and I do but there are just so many. I, unfortunately, cannot snooze my DH. We have had many discussions and he will be voting R. He disagrees with this and that but he won't be swayed from that red vote. We had a moment on Monday and I realized this is something we will never agree on. So while I would love to dance into my house tonight, I will do my very damn best to not gloat. And there will be an appeal, and he will continue to campaign and spew his lies to the masses that will believe him. So I will be the bigger person and not say anything. I (kind of) understand, as much as a blue girl in a blue state and not currently married can be. Just go into the closet and smirk when you need to  I am always in awe of how you and your DH manage, and not kill each other. Wishing you (literally) all the best the next 5.5 months! |
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Post by rodeomom on May 30, 2024 21:35:00 GMT
My neighbor has hung his American flag upside down.
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Post by naby64 on May 30, 2024 21:35:39 GMT
I can and I do but there are just so many. I, unfortunately, cannot snooze my DH. We have had many discussions and he will be voting R. He disagrees with this and that but he won't be swayed from that red vote. We had a moment on Monday and I realized this is something we will never agree on. So while I would love to dance into my house tonight, I will do my very damn best to not gloat. And there will be an appeal, and he will continue to campaign and spew his lies to the masses that will believe him. So I will be the bigger person and not say anything. DH and I disagree on politics as well. This will be interesting. I'm not saying a WORD to him. Thankfully all our kids take after their mamma!  Same. I even used the daughter card to him. I asked what happens if heaven forbid she is raped and needed an abortion. Remember, we also live in AR. He admitted he would take her over state lines to do whatever needed to be done. He's not heartless. Just a red voter. |
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Post by Scrapper100 on May 30, 2024 21:36:49 GMT
I honestly didn't see this happening. I figured one count of guilty, but never all of them. That’s what I was afraid would happen holy }%^>. I mean we all know he is guilty and this is the lesser I think if the crimes he has comically but dang. |
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Post by FurryP on May 30, 2024 21:37:57 GMT
The verdict was PERFECT. It was a perfect verdict right, Ex-President Convicted Felon?
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Post by littlemama on May 30, 2024 21:38:39 GMT
Let's be real. There is NOTHING in the Constitution that prohibits a convicted felon from running for president. Eugene Debs ran in 1920 from prison and garnered 3% of the vote, if Im not mistaken.
The cult will likely not waver, but perhaps some of the more traditional Republicans will vote with their conscience instead of party lines.
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Post by breetheflea on May 30, 2024 21:38:56 GMT
I'm so sorry, can you snooze them all for 30 days?!? I can and I do but there are just so many. I, unfortunately, cannot snooze my DH. We have had many discussions and he will be voting R. He disagrees with this and that but he won't be swayed from that red vote. We had a moment on Monday and I realized this is something we will never agree on. So while I would love to dance into my house tonight, I will do my very damn best to not gloat. And there will be an appeal, and he will continue to campaign and spew his lies to the masses that will believe him. So I will be the bigger person and not say anything. My DH won't vote democrat, but won't vote for Trump, and likes to rant about Biden if anything political comes up, so I just tune him out. I feel for you. I haven't heard anything from the other room, I wonder if DH read the news yet... |
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Post by oh yvonne on May 30, 2024 21:40:54 GMT
MFer GULITYYYYYY! Oh happy day!!
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Post by dawnnikol on May 30, 2024 21:42:37 GMT
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Post by mollycoddle on May 30, 2024 21:45:22 GMT
Lovely, but the online experts say it’s unlikely he’ll see jail time. Instead, he’ll continue to campaign on how abused and mistreated he is, and his cult members will lap it up. I have real concerns that this is going to help his campaign. His supporters were always gonna vote for him anyway. I am hoping that some moderates will decide against voting for a felon. 🤞🏻🤞🏻 |
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Post by christine58 on May 30, 2024 21:46:01 GMT
It appears that convicted felons are not allowed to vote in Florida. Not sure if that applies if the conviction was in a different state. Would be pretty funny if Trump can’t even vote for himself. They have already discussed seeking DeSantis help to change the law for him or something to allow him to vote... But Florida has honored out of state rulings over the years. ABC News said that because the trial was in New York, and in the state of New York, some people convicted of lower level felonies, which he just was, are allowed to vote |
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Post by Scrapper100 on May 30, 2024 21:46:35 GMT
Surely the average normal Republican voter would be unwilling to have a convicted POTUS on the world stage? I would never vote for someone who had been convicted as my countries political leader. This won’t even phase those who are Trump supporters and I don’t think there are “normal” Republicans left anymore — they eat their own if they are not all in on Trump. As we’ve seen time and again — those few who try to pretend they are not like Trump inevitably each back to I don’t like him but I’ll vote for him over any democratic candidate. I tend to agree there are a few that just couldn’t take him and where things are going but I think we are in the minority. I think most will still vote for him. They just see this as a simple he didn’t want his wife to know and tried to hide it no big deal. Clinton paid someone off so they think it’s the norm and won’t phase them in the least. They don’t believe 1/6 was really an insurrection but they were invited in because they showed that one police man leading them around - wasn’t he leading them away from congressmen? I haven’t watched anything on Fox about it. They think we are making stuff up about him and believe everything he says. I keep hoping that most will wake up. I know that most won’t but I keep hoping. I really wish that the classified documents trial would happen as I think that and well the Georgia one needs to happen. Seriously. Stealing classified documents, the phone call and 1/6 and those are still pending. It’s criminal. I’m glad this happened but I don’t envy the jurors of the judge. |
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Post by Scrapper100 on May 30, 2024 21:48:47 GMT
I can and I do but there are just so many. I, unfortunately, cannot snooze my DH. We have had many discussions and he will be voting R. He disagrees with this and that but he won't be swayed from that red vote. We had a moment on Monday and I realized this is something we will never agree on. So while I would love to dance into my house tonight, I will do my very damn best to not gloat. And there will be an appeal, and he will continue to campaign and spew his lies to the masses that will believe him. So I will be the bigger person and not say anything. My DH won't vote democrat, but won't vote for Trump, and likes to rant about Biden if anything political comes up, so I just tune him out. I feel for you. I haven't heard anything from the other room, I wonder if DH read the news yet... This is my husband too but he won’t talk politics since Trump came on the scene. He hadn’t voted for him but won’t vote for Biden. He thinks he is ruining the economy and then of course the border issue. |
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Post by Scrapper100 on May 30, 2024 21:50:50 GMT
Let's be real. There is NOTHING in the Constitution that prohibits a convicted felon from running for president. Eugene Debs ran in 1920 from prison and garnered 3% of the vote, if Im not mistaken. The cult will likely not waver, but perhaps some of the more traditional Republicans will vote with their conscience instead of party lines. I could live with that 3% sounds good. I know that won’t happen but the fact that he is the candidate and that it is even close is what scares me for the future. |
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Post by peasapie on May 30, 2024 21:55:17 GMT
I think the best outcome is that he can't say, "even the jury found it was a sham!" which he certainly would have done if not found guilty of every single charge. That would have swayed independent voters to his side out of sympathy.
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Post by Scrapper100 on May 30, 2024 21:59:17 GMT
I think the best outcome is that he can't say, "even the jury found it was a sham!" which he certainly would have done if not found guilty of every single charge. That would have swayed independent voters to his side out of sympathy. True but a grand jury found there was enough evidence to go to trial right? So not just the government. He will just say they were all democrats or bought off or something after all he said the whole thing was fraudulent. |
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Post by peasapie on May 30, 2024 22:01:40 GMT
I think the best outcome is that he can't say, "even the jury found it was a sham!" which he certainly would have done if not found guilty of every single charge. That would have swayed independent voters to his side out of sympathy. True but a grand jury found there was enough evidence to go to trial right? So not just the government. He will just say they were all democrats or bought off or something after all he said the whole thing was fraudulent. Oh of course he will. He always has something to say. |
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Post by pinklady on May 30, 2024 22:08:45 GMT
Surely the average normal Republican voter would be unwilling to have a convicted POTUS on the world stage? I would never vote for someone who had been convicted as my countries political leader. There is no such thing as "average normal Republican". |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on May 30, 2024 22:15:28 GMT
It appears that convicted felons are not allowed to vote in Florida. Not sure if that applies if the conviction was in a different state. Would be pretty funny if Trump can’t even vote for himself. It's crazy that convicted felons can run for any office but not vote. |
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Post by 3boysnme on May 30, 2024 22:21:26 GMT
I am just so damn proud of the jury! They weren't swayed by the magnitude of this case. They weren't cowed by tfg's supporters. They showed up, did their job, and had a unanimous verdict. WTG!!!
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Post by Tamhugh on May 30, 2024 22:26:59 GMT
My neighbor has hung his American flag upside down. Do you live next door to Samuel Alito? |
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Post by compeateropeator on May 30, 2024 22:29:36 GMT
Lovely, but the online experts say it’s unlikely he’ll see jail time. Instead, he’ll continue to campaign on how abused and mistreated he is, and his cult members will lap it up. Most people I know realistically expect this anyway, so I do not think it will unexpected when this likely happens. However you were not going to change any of his followers minds and I do think this will help with those that maybe are teetering on the edge. No matter, jail time or not, I can’t change that but it makes me feel better that at the very least he was found guilty on all counts. |
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I am always in awe of how you and your DH manage, and not kill each other. Wishing you (literally) all the best the next 5.5 months!
