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Post by busy on Jun 3, 2024 16:37:45 GMT
Knee-jerk reaction? Being a TV chef, he's allowed to voice his opinion. I have the right to my own opinion. I'm not going to take it personally. After a little thought? He's right that fresh garlic has a different flavour from bottled, but they each have their place in cooking. I also prefer fresh garlic, but I usually buy it chopped and frozen. I started doing that while I was ill, when I embraced every small saving in energy. Onions too. And I still do it now. So I have a compromise between pickled and fresh. He was not a TV chef. He was a real chef who later had a TV show. Very different.
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Post by wordyphotogbabe on Jun 3, 2024 16:43:41 GMT
I'm familiar with Anthony Bourdain so my reaction is similar to the reaction I've had to other quotes of his. He was a polarizing person who loved saying controversial things and ruffling feathers. Some people can afford to be snobby about food (or any other privilege) -- literally or figuratively -- and some can't. While I'm now at a place where I have ready access to fresh garlic, the time it takes to use properly, and the emotional capacity to focus on "trivial" things like fresh herbs, I remember a time when I didn't.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jun 3, 2024 16:46:03 GMT
Ok I'll chime in. I know enough to have recognized his name and that he is(was) a chef. I have never read any of his books or seen any of his shows. I do not have any inkling at all of his personality.
I saw this posted on social media. My knee jerk reaction was that it was humor. He was taking something almost everyone can agree on is a fact (fresh garlic is superior) and making a joke about how inferior jarred garlic is. I was like, isn't he a chef? I mean isn't that what he's supposed to think/say?
But it had so many responses that I thought I wanted to see what all the comments were about and I read them just taken aback at many of them. I posted here to see if 1) my knee jerk reaction was shared at all and 2) if some of those comments would be reflected here in pea comments.
I had a discussion recently with someone who is quite a bit different than I am. He put forth the idea that people have lost their sense of humor. I vehemently disagreed with him. I admit his voice is ringing in my ears right now.
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Post by pinklady on Jun 3, 2024 16:49:30 GMT
My initial reaction, fuck you food snob.
I have a jar of chopped garlic in my fridge that works great. I also use fresh sometimes too.
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Post by christine58 on Jun 3, 2024 16:49:59 GMT
Sounds like a snob and a half. Also, Jarred garlic isnt in oil, it is in water. Actually, you can buy it in oil and in water. I was always very thankful for the fact that my father grew his own garlic. One of the things I miss about him. But I won’t use jarlic.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Jun 3, 2024 16:54:14 GMT
My gut can tolerate the tubed Japanese stuff I order from Amazon and he can eff off.
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Post by snyder on Jun 3, 2024 17:07:51 GMT
My first thought was a garlic snob, but then quickly went to asshole. lol
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Post by pinklady on Jun 3, 2024 17:29:36 GMT
I wanted to add, as a person who cooks for a family of 1, I hate wasting ingredients. I’m not going to buy a 3 pack of garlic bulbs (or whatever you call them) to only use 2 or 3 tiny cloves in a meal and have to trash the rest because it sat on my counter for a month and rotted.
Jarred garlic in water works best for me.
I don’t know if this was a humorous quote by this particular “chef” or not but he’s not the only person I’ve heard disparaging jarred garlic.
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Post by worrywart on Jun 3, 2024 17:33:54 GMT
Self important and unreasonable.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jun 3, 2024 17:35:48 GMT
I used to always use fresh garlic but I hate cleaning the garlic press so now usually buy jarred garlic. Oh well.
The quote sounds snobby to me.
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Post by zippythebird on Jun 3, 2024 17:48:45 GMT
What if You don't like Garlic
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Post by JoP on Jun 3, 2024 17:55:06 GMT
What if You don't like Garlic This is me 🤢
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Post by librarylady on Jun 3, 2024 18:02:38 GMT
I am so low on the cooking scale that I use garlic powder.
He would probably faint at the idea.
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Post by mich5481 on Jun 3, 2024 18:06:27 GMT
I am so low on the cooking scale that I use garlic powder. He would probably faint at the idea. 🤣 I love garlic powder! Especially when you mix it with butter and put in on hot dog buns you heat up in the oven to make "garlic bread." #ahhchildhood
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Post by nightnurse on Jun 3, 2024 18:34:25 GMT
What if You don't like Garlic This is me 🤢 Vampire!!
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Post by JoP on Jun 3, 2024 18:42:54 GMT
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Post by workingclassdog on Jun 3, 2024 18:55:23 GMT
No reaction. I like garlic and I really don't care who has anything to say about it. (Now that sounds like I'm passionate about it, I'm not).. so I have no reaction to it. I would just be on my merry way.
Edited: I use mostly frozen or jarred, sometimes fresh.. it all depends.
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Post by Gennifer on Jun 3, 2024 19:09:45 GMT
I have fresh garlic in my kitchen, and if I was going to make something right now, I’d probably pull the jar out of the fridge anyway. Sometimes easy is worth it. 🤷🏼♀️
(Also don’t know him other than he was a chef, and I believe died by suicide, so I don’t look at that quote with any sort of affection. It just sounds douchey.)
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Post by ellen on Jun 3, 2024 19:14:41 GMT
If I were a professional chef I would probably feel the same way. He was also the guy who defended an older woman who wrote a nice review for the Olive Garden restaurant that opened in a town in North Dakota. He called out the snobs who were making fun of it. He was not a snob. He just believed in fresh garlic.
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Post by milocat on Jun 3, 2024 19:16:52 GMT
I agree fresh crushed garlic is way better and that's all I use. But life is short, food is expensive, eat what and how you want or can afford.
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Post by Lexica on Jun 3, 2024 19:19:17 GMT
I used to use fresh garlic in any recipe that called for it and sometimes even increased the amount in certain dishes. But over time, I started to dislike it. I bought a small jar in oil and found that it was not as overpowering of a flavor. And truthfully, what bothered me the most was that I could smell it on my husband’s skin long after he had showered and brushed his teeth. It was a very unpleasant smell. I could not smell it coming from my skin, but assumed it must be present but that I couldn’t detect it on myself. It made me very self conscious. I eventually just left it out if possible, depending on what I was making.
As for Anthony Bourdain’s statement, he should have taken the positive approach rather than the negative and accusatory approach. Tell people they deserve the best that fresh garlic can do in flavoring a dish, that you deserve it and just need to put forth a tiny bit more effort to achieve it.
I didn’t factor in the time or effort required to use fresh garlic when I stopped buying it, but the waste involved since I almost never finished using an entire clove before having to toss it out. I don’t like waste.
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Post by naby64 on Jun 3, 2024 19:28:19 GMT
As it has been stated, he was a snobby chef. A good one and he traveled all over. I loved watching his shows. In my thoughts, he is saying if you are using garlic then for all that is holy, use the real stuff.
I will say, for my kitchen, I usually do use the fresh stuff. I smash it with my knife, peel and mince right up. It takes no longer than a good sneeze for the most part. I do have some jarlic in my fridge that I will use when I can sort of cover the taste of it. It is mostly in my mind, but the jarred stuff has a different, and not good to me, taste. But in a pinch, it works.
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Post by Zee on Jun 3, 2024 19:44:02 GMT
First of all, he's a chef.
Second, it's no different than all the peas here who turn up their noses at canned soup and shredded or grated cheese and are generally rude about it.
(I don't disagree about grated Parmesan, but chicken breasts baked in cream of onion soup topped with crunchy fried onions is easy and tasty and I'll fight you, now what)
Anyway, I dislike the jarred garlic and won't use it either, so I guess I get where he's coming from. Plus I always thought he was a bit of a dick (again, he's a chef), so I'm not going to take it personally.
I think many of us probably feel slightly snobby inside about things we are passionate about.
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Post by caangel on Jun 3, 2024 19:49:41 GMT
I'm familiar with Anthony Bourdain so my reaction is similar to the reaction I've had to other quotes of his. He was a polarizing person who loved saying controversial things and ruffling feathers. This. The quote is on brand for his public persona. I love garlic and agree that fresh is better but have no need to judge other's choices.
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Post by Merge on Jun 3, 2024 19:52:03 GMT
I agree with him for my own purposes, but others should do as they please.
And I agree with whoever said above that once you learn to smash and chop an unpeeled clove in a few seconds, you probably won’t bother with jarlic again.
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Post by malibou on Jun 3, 2024 20:08:29 GMT
I read Kitchen Confidential when it came out in 1990. This sounds just like him. And I do like him. So no hate from me.
As for fresh vs. jarlic, I use fresh almost always, but there is a sauce I make when we have rice bowls, and I like it better with jarlic than fresh.
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Post by pilcas on Jun 3, 2024 20:13:00 GMT
Spoken like a man who never got home from work to make dinner for his family.
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Post by lucyg on Jun 3, 2024 20:20:39 GMT
My first reaction was to laugh. I expect chefs to turn up their noses at garlic from a jar. That doesn’t change the fact that I use (and appreciate) garlic from a jar.
(1) I don’t love garlic all that much. Not worth the trouble (to me) to mess around with fresh.
(2) I HATE the smell of garlic on my hands. Refuse to touch it for that reason alone.
(3) I’m a lazy cook and no matter how many of you claim it’s faster to peel and smash fresh than open the refrigerator door … yeah, no.
(4) I tend to reduce the amount of garlic in a recipe, not increase it.
(5) I would walk right past (and have, a number of times) a recipe that focused on large amounts of garlic. No thanks.
(6) the one thing I might consider buying fresh garlic for would be garlic bread. But I haven’t made it in years. Never sounds appealing enough to bother.
(7) roasted garlic is okay, if someone else makes it.
I use crushed garlic in a jar, not minced. I like it better. But our grocery stores don’t carry it anymore (dunno why) and I have to order it from Amazon. It’s worth it. Mine (from Christopher Farms) has a little olive or soy oil added, but the nutrition information says zero grams of fat, so it can’t be much.
This is not a heavily processed food.
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Post by cmpeter on Jun 3, 2024 20:51:55 GMT
I love garlic in all forms, but agree that fresh is best.
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Post by RedSquirrelUK on Jun 3, 2024 20:57:54 GMT
Knee-jerk reaction? Being a TV chef, he's allowed to voice his opinion. I have the right to my own opinion. I'm not going to take it personally. After a little thought? He's right that fresh garlic has a different flavour from bottled, but they each have their place in cooking. I also prefer fresh garlic, but I usually buy it chopped and frozen. I started doing that while I was ill, when I embraced every small saving in energy. Onions too. And I still do it now. So I have a compromise between pickled and fresh. He was not a TV chef. He was a real chef who later had a TV show. Very different. Oh OK, fair enough. It doesn't make any difference to my answer though. Everyone has a right to their opinion. Maybe he was being silly, poking fun at pretentiousness in general.
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