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Post by jeremysgirl on Jun 3, 2024 15:07:31 GMT
I'm just wondering what your knee jerk reaction to this quote is. I have some thoughts (not just about garlic)... But I don't want to taint anyone's first thoughts.
"Garlic is divine. Avoid at all costs that vile spew you see rotting in oil in screwtop jars. Too lazy to peel fresh? You don't deserve to eat garlic."
--Anthony Bourdain
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Post by jill8909 on Jun 3, 2024 15:10:01 GMT
he sounds like a jerk here.
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Post by Tearisci on Jun 3, 2024 15:10:38 GMT
I'm lazy and probably don't deserve garlic but I use the jarred stuff. Sue me.
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Post by scrapmaven on Jun 3, 2024 15:11:22 GMT
I see it two ways. "You deserve to eat the best" or "I'm angry at you and if you're not savvy enough to eat fresh garlic then you shouldn't eat, cause you're a sloth".
It's either "giving the best to yourself shouldn't be a treat, but it should be the norm" or "you're a tacky idiot who shouldn't be allowed good stuff".
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Post by scrapmaven on Jun 3, 2024 15:11:55 GMT
I'm lazy and probably don't deserve garlic but I use the jarred stuff. Sue me. Frozen garlic is great, too.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jun 3, 2024 15:15:00 GMT
I'm lazy and probably don't deserve garlic but I use the jarred stuff. Sue me. I don't know if you are speaking to me, but I read this quote online and a bunch of comments. It is not my quote, my feelings, my thoughts.
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Post by Tearisci on Jun 3, 2024 15:17:02 GMT
I'm lazy and probably don't deserve garlic but I use the jarred stuff. Sue me. I don't know if you are speaking to me, but I read this quote online and a bunch of comments. It is not my quote, my feelings, my thoughts. Nope, not at you at all. Just replying in the way Anthony Bourdain would
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Post by scrappert on Jun 3, 2024 15:21:16 GMT
To me this reads as: Either use fresh or don't use garlic at all.
I use both and fresh is definitely better. But if I don't have fresh, I will use the jar stuff.
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Post by gar on Jun 3, 2024 15:21:34 GMT
It sounds pretentious.
Yes we all know that peeling and crushing our own is probably the ideal for flavour etc but sometimes life's too short and there are perfectly good short cuts. I usually make my own pastry from scratch - my Mum always did and I can do it quite quickly, easily and successfully and I quite like making it but - you can buy perfectly good ready made pastry in the shop so if making your own isn't your thing then buy it!
Same rule applies.
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Post by smalltowngirlie on Jun 3, 2024 15:24:16 GMT
I go in streaks with garlic and every time I buy fresh I use 1 or 2 cloves and the rest goes bad. The jarred stuff is just easier for me. Call me lazy.
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Post by wellway on Jun 3, 2024 15:25:49 GMT
I've never tried garlic from a jar so I can't compare but figure people have busy lives and doing their best. Using screwtop garlic suggests they are at least preparing a home cooked meal, so great. Not everyone has a sous chef.
I'm curious what impact, if any, the oil has on the taste though.
I will admit I'm the type of person who will add two cloves of garlic when the recipe says add one. Pretty sure it's the reason I rarely get colds.
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Post by 950nancy on Jun 3, 2024 15:27:16 GMT
He sounds like a food snob, but I believe anything you devote your life to can make you feel superior. You can tell the difference in taste, and your senses about a certain topic are heightened. You can hear it here sometimes when people are very passionate about specific topics.
I don't doubt he's wrong about the difference in taste, but most people just don't care.
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Jun 3, 2024 15:28:56 GMT
I recently saw it referred to as "jarlic" and forevermore that is what I will call it! Sure, fresh is great if you have it on hand and the time/inclination to use it. But I am a lazy cook, never plan my meals out that far ahead and 'jarlic' works for me and how I live. Never had any complaints to date.
Anthony Bourdain was one of those chefs who was a major snob when it came to food, so I take nothing he said as gospel.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jun 3, 2024 15:35:16 GMT
I thought it was funny. I LOOOOOOOOVE garlic. I am the laziest cook on earth, but the one shortcut I don't use is jarred garlic. It just doesn't taste the same to me (and my Mom uses it all the time, so I'm not speaking from ignorance). I thank Rachel Ray (who I find annoying to the extreme, but give kudos where deserved) for introducing me to smashing garlic. I can smash and chop a clove including pealing in less time than it takes to open the refrigerator and open a jar. Yes he's speaking in hyperbole, but I still thought it was funny.
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Post by padresfan619 on Jun 3, 2024 15:39:55 GMT
I had a roommate buy a Costco sized jar of minced garlic he opened the jar for one recipe, rarely used it after and it eventually got moldy and disgusting. That turned me off of jarred garlic for the rest of my life. I tend to agree with Anthony, if you’re going to go through the effort of cooking you deserve to use fresh, delicious garlic. But I also understand that some people have mobility issues or are simply looking for a little more convenience. So do whatever you want. I prefer to keep fresh on hand. I do keep a package of frozen garlic in my freezer for emergencies. This little tool is probably one of my most used, it makes for peeling garlic really quick and easy. a.co/d/ccmo9bq
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Post by Restless Spirit on Jun 3, 2024 15:45:42 GMT
Since he’s no longer with us, I’ll not voice my personal opinion of him. I’ll stick to my thoughts on that one particular statement. As phrased, I agree it sounds pretentious and sanctimonious.
I do a fair amount of every day, ordinary cooking. We seldom eat out. I much prefer using fresh herbs, and things like fresh garlic and ginger. but hey - real life gets in the way and dried and jarred herbs, garlic, and ginger are a lifesaver. It’s not always feasible and affordable to have fresh on hand at any given time.
I’m not a gourmet cook, so refusing to only use fresh garlic is not a hill I’m willing to die on.
ETA - I always have fresh ginger root in my freezer - unless my DD borrows it and I forget to buy more. It’s divine in stir fry!
Also, during the pandemic, fresh garlic and ginger, and even the jarred, was almost impossible to find. As it is, I sometimes have to go to two or three stores to find fresh ginger. It’s definitely not stocked like it used to be.
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Post by pjaye on Jun 3, 2024 15:55:31 GMT
I don't have a strong reaction to that quote, except a bit of wry amusement - he's a chef, they have all sorts of opinions about food, that's what they do.
Every person who cooks regularly probably has an opinion like that about some ingredient. Mine are vanilla bean..."OMG, you're not going to use that fake essence crap are you? You HAVE to use a real bean for the best flavour!" and asparagus "I'll only eat fresh asparagus, never that green mush out of a can"
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Post by disneypal on Jun 3, 2024 15:57:53 GMT
My first thought..what a snob.
Not everyone has fresh garlic laying around, pre-diced jarred garlic is great to have on hand.
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Post by ~summer~ on Jun 3, 2024 16:05:49 GMT
My first thought is it sounds like him! But I really like him and miss him
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Post by pantsonfire on Jun 3, 2024 16:06:52 GMT
I'm just wondering what your knee jerk reaction to this quote is. I have some thoughts (not just about garlic)... But I don't want to taint anyone's first thoughts. "Garlic is divine. Avoid at all costs that vile spew you see rotting in oil in screwtop jars. Too lazy to peel fresh? You don't deserve to eat garlic." --Anthony Bourdain A few thoughts... First off this was said early in his career and honestly he grew a lot. With that said, I will die on this hill that fresh is best. Americans have really started to heavily rely on processed food items. Now before the peas come at me, I realize that his statement is a bit snobbish. And I know that there are people who deal with depression, lack time/energy and would rather spend the 1-2 minutes it takes to peel and cut/grate/mince garlic on something else, or those with physical limitations. It's not cool to put down people who live differently. But back to my original comment, there are way better options than jarlic. Paste. Frozen. Fresh peeled cloves in water. There really is nothing better than the smell and taste you get from fresh garlic. But again, if you use jarlic cool. Not judging. I just won't ever use it. And no knee jerk reaction from me. I followed Anthony during his career. He had a knack of allowing each piece of food items used to be tasted. He knew his ingredients and brought them to life. He traveled and brought so many not known cuisines to people. He really loves food and I miss his shows.
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Post by pantsonfire on Jun 3, 2024 16:07:24 GMT
My first thought is it sounds like him! But I really like him and miss him Same.
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Post by smartypants71 on Jun 3, 2024 16:11:31 GMT
I mean, I am sure he is correct. However, I consider myself lucky if one of us has time to cook dinners at all, so if jarred garlic makes it easier, then that's what I'll do. I don't think my palate is refined enough to tell the difference once the meal has been cook anyway.
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Post by mellyw on Jun 3, 2024 16:15:59 GMT
While I agree with him that fresh garlic is best, I’m not going to turn my nose up at food someone has made with jarred garlic.
I keep peeled garlic cloves in the freezer, something I learned to do while living in Korea. I love it like that, makes it slightly more mild. We do keep fresh garlic around too, it’s better in certain things, like fresh salsa and guacamole
Same applies to ginger. I buy a giant hand size piece, if we don’t use it before it starts to go soft, it gets chopped up and frozen. Doesn’t happen that often, I drink ginger tea nearly every night and pickle ginger a lot
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Post by mich5481 on Jun 3, 2024 16:20:35 GMT
He's a chef, so 🤷♀️
It's like a wine connoisseur sharing their opinion on Two Buck Chuck or boxed wine.
I don't take stuff like that personally.
It's like the time my nonscrappy SIL worked on a baby book for my niece, and all I could see was the big globs of liquid glue she used for small embellishments. She didn't know about the Xyron sticker maker adhesives until I told her about them. Once I told her about it, and bought her an X, then she started to use it. Nonchefs may not know the difference in flavor between fresh garlic and jarlic, they're just trying something outside of their wheelhouse.
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Post by littlemama on Jun 3, 2024 16:24:46 GMT
Sounds like a snob and a half. Also, Jarred garlic isnt in oil, it is in water.
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Post by Anita on Jun 3, 2024 16:28:43 GMT
It sounds snobby and makes me laugh because it sounds like him. Yes, fresh is best, but you make do with what you can get sometimes. It is what it is.
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Jun 3, 2024 16:33:09 GMT
My first thought is the writer of the quote is a judgemental jackass.
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Post by RedSquirrelUK on Jun 3, 2024 16:34:33 GMT
Knee-jerk reaction?
Being a TV chef, he's allowed to voice his opinion. I have the right to my own opinion. I'm not going to take it personally.
After a little thought?
He's right that fresh garlic has a different flavour from bottled, but they each have their place in cooking. I also prefer fresh garlic, but I usually buy it chopped and frozen. I started doing that while I was ill, when I embraced every small saving in energy. Onions too. And I still do it now. So I have a compromise between pickled and fresh.
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Post by busy on Jun 3, 2024 16:34:41 GMT
I agree, even though I wouldn’t say it that way (but man, I loved Anthony Bourdain). Everyone can do what they want and I’d never say something to them but in my mind, I may be thinking how much better fresh garlic is.
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Post by heckofagal on Jun 3, 2024 16:36:04 GMT
I started to feel offended as we only use the jarred stuff...but then I see who the quote was from and I just smile. I don't feel like he would really ever want to offend someone. I'm sad he is gone.
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