River
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Post by River on Jun 11, 2024 13:02:52 GMT
They are in deliberations, and I was wanting to see what everyone's thoughts were on it. I haven't been following it very closely myself, just reading bits and pieces about it.
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Post by ntsf on Jun 11, 2024 15:17:57 GMT
found guilty on all three counts
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naby64
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Post by naby64 on Jun 11, 2024 15:21:36 GMT
Huh, looks like the justice system isn't rigged just to one side.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 11, 2024 15:28:10 GMT
ABC saying he should NOT get prison.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jun 11, 2024 15:29:18 GMT
Huh, looks like the justice system isn't rigged just to one side. If any thing, doesn’t this seem like he was targeted because of his name? I mean, how many everyday people get charged with this crime? I’m not saying that what he did was right and that is fine that he is guilty. Just curious how often someone is charged with this. |
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Post by ellen on Jun 11, 2024 15:35:15 GMT
I was watching a panel discussing this and it sounds like very few people ever have to go to trial for this sort of thing. It’ll be interesting to see what type of sentence he gets.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 11, 2024 15:36:29 GMT
Just remember a year ago this same special counsel prosecutor was willing to bring much lesser charges and Hunter was all in to plead guilty. The judge stopped it and the hold over prosecutor went ALL IN and hammered him...
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naby64
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Post by naby64 on Jun 11, 2024 15:46:27 GMT
Huh, looks like the justice system isn't rigged just to one side. If any thing, doesn’t this seem like he was targeted because of his name? I mean, how many everyday people get charged with this crime? I’m not saying that what he did was right and that is fine that he is guilty. Just curious how often someone is charged with this. Oh, the MAGA TTers are already upset that he will most likely just get probation. Which if we are being honest here, I just don't see tRump getting jail time. While I would like to see it, I just don't think it will happen. So this proves there's no pleasing some. He wasn't getting charged, oh now there is a trial. He gets charged/convicted but will most likely get probation. If anything it does show more leaning as stated already, this is not something the avg john doe even gets charged with. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 11, 2024 15:50:25 GMT
Unfortunately with the tax case coming up in September in California, the guilty decisions today can go against sentencing if he is also found guilty of the tax charges.. he will have these previous felony charges.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jun 11, 2024 15:51:01 GMT
Yeah, they’re using him to set an example. If his last name wasn’t Biden it never would have seen the light of day.
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Post by mom on Jun 11, 2024 15:53:39 GMT
As a legal gun owner, I am all for him & any one else who lies on the gun application to be charged and held accountable. Do I think he needs jail time? Probably not. But he should have been charged.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 11, 2024 16:05:09 GMT
Sentencing will be in about 120 days.
Corrected to within 120 days..
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Post by lindas on Jun 11, 2024 16:08:18 GMT
Sentencing will be in about 120 days. Incorrect, sentencing will be WITHIN 120 days. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 11, 2024 16:08:19 GMT
As a legal gun owner, I am all for him & any one else who lies on the gun application to be charged and held accountable. Do I think he needs jail time? Probably not. But he should have been charged. Yes he should have been charged and he was a year ago and was willing to plead guilty. That was not good enough for whomever. So he was recharged and found guilty. I sure wish everyone would be charged accordingly, therefore no problem. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 11, 2024 16:09:59 GMT
Sentencing will be in about 120 days. Incorrect, sentencing will be WITHIN 120 days. Ok, I actually typed that and changed it,! |
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Post by pinklady on Jun 11, 2024 16:10:09 GMT
Well Hunter lost my vote for president.
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Post by mom on Jun 11, 2024 16:13:31 GMT
As a legal gun owner, I am all for him & any one else who lies on the gun application to be charged and held accountable. Do I think he needs jail time? Probably not. But he should have been charged. Yes he should have been charged and he was a year ago and was willing to plead guilty. That was not good enough for whomever. So he was recharged and found guilty. I sure wish everyone would be charged accordingly, therefore no problem. Im aware. |
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pantsonfire
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Post by pantsonfire on Jun 11, 2024 17:06:49 GMT
Well Hunter lost my vote for president. *Snort* 🤣 |
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Post by compeateropeator on Jun 11, 2024 17:30:15 GMT
I have no problem with the verdict and unfortunately he needs to accept the consequences. Those are the rules. It changes nothing in my life. I am sorry he,or anyone, has to/had to go through such hard and personal journeys. I am always rooting for them to come out the other side better and happier. His conviction makes no difference in any of my political thoughts/stances…unless President Biden pardons him as he has said he wouldn’t. Then it will be a bit of a stink eye and disappointed look toward him.
ETA - I do not think he should get jail time. I do think he was was charged the way he was to set an example…but if it was done legally and within the confines of our justice system then it sucks but it is the way it goes sometimes. Just shows sometimes your name can help and sometime it can hurt.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jun 11, 2024 17:33:17 GMT
If any thing, doesn’t this seem like he was targeted because of his name? I mean, how many everyday people get charged with this crime? I’m not saying that what he did was right and that is fine that he is guilty. Just curious how often someone is charged with this. Oh, the MAGA TTers are already upset that he will most likely just get probation. Which if we are being honest here, I just don't see tRump getting jail time. While I would like to see it, I just don't think it will happen. So this proves there's no pleasing some. He wasn't getting charged, oh now there is a trial. He gets charged/convicted but will most likely get probation. If anything it does show more leaning as stated already, this is not something the avg john doe even gets charged with. This is a “sweetheart deal.” They ignored HB’s “shady business deals.” Sometimes I want to bang my head on a wall. 😑 Exhibit A: x.com/stephenm/status/1800551059594912143?s=61&t=M1OfLFf7y0WKg7wrxjM59g |
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Post by Merge on Jun 11, 2024 17:41:48 GMT
1. Totally fine with any of our electeds and their families being subject to the rule of law.
2. Hilarious that the right is so gung-ho about the enforcement of a law most of them don't support, because it "infringes" on their right to own as many guns as possible.
3. Don Jr. is obviously an addict and just as obviously owns guns. What to do, what to do ...
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 11, 2024 17:53:42 GMT
Oh, the MAGA TTers are already upset that he will most likely just get probation. Which if we are being honest here, I just don't see tRump getting jail time. While I would like to see it, I just don't think it will happen. So this proves there's no pleasing some. He wasn't getting charged, oh now there is a trial. He gets charged/convicted but will most likely get probation. If anything it does show more leaning as stated already, this is not something the avg john doe even gets charged with. This is a “sweetheart deal.” They ignored HB’s “shady business deals.” Sometimes I want to bang my head on a wall. 😑 Exhibit A: x.com/stephenm/status/1800551059594912143?s=61&t=M1OfLFf7y0WKg7wrxjM59gI can't understand how he, Charlie Kirk and followers have become so very angry and vindictive at a young age. |
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River
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Post by River on Jun 11, 2024 17:53:55 GMT
I personally didn't think the charges were big trial worthy and with anyone else it wouldn't have been. But not that it's been done, I would like it to set a better precedent for people who lie on the application and show them that it's serious business with serious punishment.
I kind of doubt it will though. The next regular Joe with these charges will probably plead guilty and get a slap on the wrist.
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Post by Merge on Jun 11, 2024 18:39:48 GMT
I can't understand how he, Charlie Kirk and followers have become so very angry and vindictive at a young age. A constant stream of rage porn dating back to the Rush Limbaugh days. It's warped their minds. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 11, 2024 20:13:45 GMT
Now the conspiracies start!! They are claiming that Biden orchestrated the whole trial and that he sacrificed his only living son to cover his calling for TFG conviction.... Rep. Jim McGovern (D-M A) tore this conspiracy theory to pieces on Tuesday and expressed incredulity that Republicans could really think Biden would sacrifice his own son just to put Trump in jail. "As usual, the only 'Trump Derangement Syndrome' going on here is on the other side of the aisle," McGovern said during a congressional hearing. "I mean, people are saying that Biden orchestrated the conviction of his own son in order to justify the criminal charges against Trump. That is how you think when you're in a cult!" McGovern went on to excoriate the GOP for being unwilling to see Trump — who was impeached twice during his first term, who has been criminally indicted in four different jurisdictions, and who has now been found guilty on 34 felony counts — for who he really is. www.rawstory.com/trump-cult-2668500873/ |
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Post by aj2hall on Jun 11, 2024 20:23:49 GMT
I don't have any problem with the conviction. I am curious why Hunter and his lawyers let the case go to trial? Although, if he did plead guilty, I'm sure there would have been accusations of a sweetheart deal. I'm 100% convinced that if Don Jr or Eric did the same thing when Trump was in office, they never would have been charged. If for some reason, they had been charged with lying on a gun application or any other crime, Trump would pardon them. And MAGAs would be OK with Trump or any of his family members getting a true sweetheart deal. I thought this was an interesting perspective from Reagan's daughter, Patti Davis, on addiction and consequences gift article - no paywall www.nytimes.com/2024/06/10/opinion/the-one-thing-everyone-is-missing-about-hunter-bidens-case.html?unlocked_article_code=1.y00.okch.bX2n2FK6Y5yX&smid=url-share |
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Post by Merge on Jun 11, 2024 20:46:12 GMT
I don't have any problem with the conviction. I am curious why Hunter and his lawyers let the case go to trial? Although, if he did plead guilty, I'm sure there would have been accusations of a sweetheart deal. I'm 100% convinced that if Don Jr or Eric did the same thing when Trump was in office, they never would have been charged. If for some reason, they had been charged with lying on a gun application or any other crime, Trump would pardon them. And MAGAs would be OK with Trump or any of his family members getting a true sweetheart deal. I thought this was an interesting perspective from Reagan's daughter, Patti Davis, on addiction and consequences gift article - no paywall www.nytimes.com/2024/06/10/opinion/the-one-thing-everyone-is-missing-about-hunter-bidens-case.html?unlocked_article_code=1.y00.okch.bX2n2FK6Y5yX&smid=url-shareHe initially offered a plea deal and DOJ decided not to accept it. I don’t remember all the details. |
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Post by mom on Jun 11, 2024 21:37:20 GMT
I don't have any problem with the conviction. I am curious why Hunter and his lawyers let the case go to trial? Although, if he did plead guilty, I'm sure there would have been accusations of a sweetheart deal. I'm 100% convinced that if Don Jr or Eric did the same thing when Trump was in office, they never would have been charged. If for some reason, they had been charged with lying on a gun application or any other crime, Trump would pardon them. And MAGAs would be OK with Trump or any of his family members getting a true sweetheart deal. I thought this was an interesting perspective from Reagan's daughter, Patti Davis, on addiction and consequences gift article - no paywall www.nytimes.com/2024/06/10/opinion/the-one-thing-everyone-is-missing-about-hunter-bidens-case.html?unlocked_article_code=1.y00.okch.bX2n2FK6Y5yX&smid=url-shareHe initially offered a plea deal and DOJ decided not to accept it. I don’t remember all the details. Im pretty sure the plea deal they initially agreed to would cover all his potential crimes, making him immune from any charges related to tax evasion. And thats why the judge would not agree to it. |
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Post by smasonnc on Jun 11, 2024 21:51:35 GMT
I keep hearing media bleating about him being scapegoated to besmirch his father, what about Trump, what if Don, Jr. or Eric did this, this kind of thing never goes to trial, blah, blah, blah.
I don't give a $#*t about any of it. He did it. He should be convicted. Same with Trump. Commit a crime, get convicted. The end.
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Post by Merge on Jun 11, 2024 21:53:24 GMT
He initially offered a plea deal and DOJ decided not to accept it. I don’t remember all the details. Im pretty sure the plea deal they initially agreed to would cover all his potential crimes, making him immune from any charges related to tax evasion. And thats why the judge would not agree to it. You mean they didn’t think the president and his family should have total immunity from prosecution? 😂😂😂 |
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