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Post by Laurie on Jul 15, 2024 18:19:54 GMT
Oh wow, assuming just because I don't want to hurl insults must mean I want to participate in game threads or threads about socks. I find that condescending. Let's be honest onelasttime and morecowbell (and the like) are not helping their cause by the way they participate in the threads. There are about a half dozen peas that overtake threads taking shots at each other so others trying to talk about the issue get lost in all their copy and paste articles, tweets, etc. It becomes a thread of them going back and forth trying to play the gotcha game. I would love to talk about current issues but unfortunately I can't start a thread for discussion. In a way I wish it was like FB where I could post something but exclude certain peas from seeing it. Welp, I find it condescending when people point out that we're not changing minds or saving democracy here. As if anyone thought we were. And insulting to suggest that people's basic rights should be up for discussion. I block people like morecowbell and don't respond to them. Others can do as they like. FWIW I have viewed you as more of a discusser than a gotcha-er. There is a difference between posts about standing up for peoples rights and throwing insults back and forth. |
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Post by Lurkingpea on Jul 15, 2024 18:21:44 GMT
I would agree. Typically though that is not what we see here. There are a few of you that are trying to discuss but your voice is lost in the incessant posting of the extremists (on BOTH sides) that are bickering back and forth about who is superior. I miss the days on the old board where we could have actual political discussions. They were so enlightening. This is just political spewing here. When was that? It feels to me like we've just changed from the majority being on the right to the majority being on the left. But to answer your question, people's basic human rights and freedoms should not be up for discussion. That's why we can't have discussion now. I agree. I stopped posting on the old board because the horrid things posted about Obama were so flat out racist and offensive. I don't remember the old board being the wholesome discussions others remember at all. |
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Post by Lurkingpea on Jul 15, 2024 18:23:36 GMT
In what way should we discuss whether people should have basic human rights and freedoms? What are the both sides on that? Because that's where we are right now. I know no one's opinion is changed. If you don't want to read what is written here, back on out and go start a thread about socks. No one is forcing you to read. Oh wow, assuming just because I don't want to hurl insults must mean I want to participate in game threads or threads about socks. I find that condescending. Let's be honest onelasttime and morecowbell (and the like) are not helping their cause by the way they participate in the threads. There are about a half dozen peas that overtake threads taking shots at each other so others trying to talk about the issue get lost in all their copy and paste articles, tweets, etc. It becomes a thread of them going back and forth trying to play the gotcha game. I would love to talk about current issues but unfortunately I can't start a thread for discussion. In a way I wish it was like FB where I could post something but exclude certain peas from seeing it. Use the ignore feature, it makes reading these posts much easier. |
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Post by Laurie on Jul 15, 2024 18:26:11 GMT
Oh wow, assuming just because I don't want to hurl insults must mean I want to participate in game threads or threads about socks. I find that condescending. Let's be honest onelasttime and morecowbell (and the like) are not helping their cause by the way they participate in the threads. There are about a half dozen peas that overtake threads taking shots at each other so others trying to talk about the issue get lost in all their copy and paste articles, tweets, etc. It becomes a thread of them going back and forth trying to play the gotcha game. I would love to talk about current issues but unfortunately I can't start a thread for discussion. In a way I wish it was like FB where I could post something but exclude certain peas from seeing it. Use the ignore feature, it makes reading these posts much easier. I know that is what I should do but doesn't it get hard to follow along because of people quoting a post from a blocked person? I guess I would feel like I am missing out on half of a conversation. Plus, if I am being honest I am too nosy to miss out on a good trainwreck post/thread.  |
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 15, 2024 18:46:25 GMT
No kidding Sherlock. Brett Melselas “Since day 1, President Biden has pushed for unity and called for Americans to come together. And since day 1, Republicans have told him to f— off. And then the media writes how both parties are divisive and complains that Biden has not united the country.” x.com/bmeiselas/status/1812915813642564074?s=61&t=j45uMgNk1i8O0YllKF58nwA response that is spot on. ”Trump's message of unity: "it's time for the country to unify around me" The media: "Trump is a changed man, calls for national unity" Another spot on point. Aaron Rupar… lTRUMP: I'm going to be a dictator on day one DEMOCRATS: Trump wants to be a dictator! REPUBLICANS: Hysterical Dems are endangering Trump by saying he wants to be a dictator” |
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Post by epeanymous on Jul 15, 2024 18:55:49 GMT
I miss the days on the old board where we could have actual political discussions. They were so enlightening. This is just not true. Unless you were a right winger who had your flock that overtook the board back in the early 2000's. I don’t believe in getting into insult-fests on god’s green internet and I went dormant on the old board because even though I think I try to avoid that, there were some right-wing posters who “talked” to me in ways I do not put up with from anyone, and the board normalized it. |
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Post by dawnnikol on Jul 15, 2024 18:58:01 GMT
I know that is what I should do but doesn't it get hard to follow along because of people quoting a post from a blocked person? I guess I would feel like I am missing out on half of a conversation. Plus, if I am being honest I am too nosy to miss out on a good trainwreck post/thread. No, because it just shows something like "this is a post by a user you have blocked", then you can click to view it or ignore it. If they're quoted, it shows the same box that you have to click to view. It sure makes the threads shorter until you click that box, then BAM it expands like you dropped the bottom part of a Slinky. |
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Post by Laurie on Jul 15, 2024 19:02:06 GMT
I know that is what I should do but doesn't it get hard to follow along because of people quoting a post from a blocked person? I guess I would feel like I am missing out on half of a conversation. Plus, if I am being honest I am too nosy to miss out on a good trainwreck post/thread. No, because it just shows something like "this is a post by a user you have blocked", then you can click to view it or ignore it. If they're quoted, it shows the same box that you have to click to view. It sure makes the threads shorter until you click that box, then BAM it expands like you dropped the bottom part of a Slinky. So you don't have to go unblock the user to see their post? |
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Post by mellyw on Jul 15, 2024 19:03:48 GMT
This is just not true. Unless you were a right winger who had your flock that overtook the board back in the early 2000's. Nah, I thought it was a pretty equal mix. However, I was in my early 30s back then so my viewpoints and participation back then is much different than it is now in my late 40s. Kind of like when I was a kid I thought that gum that came in a roll was the greatest and now as an adult I think it is nasty. So I will give you that perhaps rose colored glasses could be in play here.  Rose colored glasses are in play. I was told my DH and I were both traitors for not supporting the Iraq War, while he was doing his duty and serving in Iraq. Didn’t matter that he had served honorably in every action since Panama in 1989, he didn’t believe the Republican lies, so traitor he was. Took some special people to tell me that while he was being shot at on the daily in Iraq. Pretty much made me realize this country hadn’t learned a damn thing since the Vietnam War. The board at that point definitely had a Republican tilt |
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Post by dawnnikol on Jul 15, 2024 19:04:18 GMT
o you don't have to go unblock the user to see their post? Nope. Like, in this thread if you had me blocked the post above mine by epeanymous and you would have a box that says something "this is a post by a user you have blocked". You can just keep reading along OR you can click that box to view the post. |
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Post by smasonnc on Jul 15, 2024 19:57:55 GMT
there were some right-wing posters who “talked” to me in ways I do not put up with from anyone, and the board normalized it. Here, it's the left-wingers AND I'M ON THEIR SIDE. It doesn't take much to queue up a snotty comment. God forbid someone should just keep scrolling without offering any snark. |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jul 15, 2024 20:07:50 GMT
Our country is a very different place than it was in the early 80s. I wish we could take the best parts of each decade to live. You know how some singers will release a greatest hits album? Can we made the decade of 2030-2039 be our greatest hits? However, I vote nothing from the 2020-2029 be included. It has been one huge dumpster fire after another. I hope the rest of the decade is much better, but lately that doesn’t feel likely. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 15, 2024 20:43:31 GMT
Jeff Jackson (D representative from NC) just sent out an email and at the bottom he said he would tell what he knows for fact as of today about the assassination attempt. I am going to copy + paste it here, since it includes some info that people might be interested in re: Saturday. Copied and pasted from his email but the BOLD is me. The shooter was positioned on a rooftop 148 yards away. The roof was just outside of the security perimeter established by the Secret Service. In other words, they had not secured that location. (THIS IS NEWS TO ME)They did have a counter sniper in place who spotted the shooter before he opened fire and had his rifle aimed at him, which is why the shooter was taken down within three seconds of his first shot. The shooter was 20 years old. He used an AR-15 variant that was registered to his father. He had two explosive devices in his car. He had a full-time job at a nursing home and no criminal record. ( Also news to me) In addition to wounding the former president, he injured several others and killed a father who was using his body to shield his family. Somewhere I read about the glass company building and that they had cooperated with the secret service prior to the rally.... And yes I had also heard about the explosives in his car as well as at his home... |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 15, 2024 20:49:39 GMT
No, because it just shows something like "this is a post by a user you have blocked", then you can click to view it or ignore it. If they're quoted, it shows the same box that you have to click to view. It sure makes the threads shorter until you click that box, then BAM it expands like you dropped the bottom part of a Slinky. So you don't have to go unblock the user to see their post? No. But easier to read and relax and laugh with no response.. |
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 15, 2024 22:05:04 GMT
Actually posting gives some better ideas/talking points if they are willing to discuss the situation with others I would agree. Typically though that is not what we see here. There are a few of you that are trying to discuss but your voice is lost in the incessant posting of the extremists (on BOTH sides) that are bickering back and forth about who is superior. I miss the days on the old board where we could have actual political discussions. They were so enlightening. This is just political spewing here. I didn't participate in political threads back in the day, but political discussions in general are significantly different now vs 10 or 15 years ago. Now, they are much more heated and divisive, there are "alternate facts" and a lot of misinformation and conspiracy theories with social media. |
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 15, 2024 22:59:40 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 15, 2024 23:02:02 GMT
That seems on brand for Trump to only care about himself and not even care about his supporters. I understand that Trump is busy with the convention, but he couldn't take 15 minutes to call the widow of one of his supporters, shot at his rally?
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 15, 2024 23:15:45 GMT
truthChris Murphy @chrismurphyct
What happened Saturday is unacceptable. It should never happen again.
Toward that end, it isn't "politicizing" the tragedy to point out that no politician has done more to glorify political violence than Donald Trump.
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 15, 2024 23:21:20 GMT
I don't think she's going to have a long career with Fox. I'm really surprised she hasn't already been fired pipe bombsAcyn @acyn
Jessica: Nobody who is being an honest broker can possibly believe that the democratic rhetoric is the problem here. Trump sent a email just last week that said Biden is a threat to democracy and only one of these candidates has inspired people to send pipe bombs… |
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Post by mom on Jul 15, 2024 23:36:14 GMT
So this is problematic: Channel 11′s Nicole Ford confirmed that Beaver County’s ESU team had eight members at the rally, including snipers and spotters. According to Ford’s sources, one of them noticed a suspicious man on a roof near the rally at 5:45 p.m., called it in and took a picture of the person. We have learned from our sources the person in that picture is Thomas Crooks. We’re told it’s not clear if Crooks had a gun with him at that point. According to multiple sources, a law enforcement officer had also previously seen Crooks on the ground and called him in as a suspicious person with a picture prior to 5:45 p.m. Our sources tell us an officer checked the grounds for Crooks at that point, but did not see him where the first picture was taken. www.wpxi.com/news/local/alleged-trump-shooter-spotted-by-law-enforcement-nearly-30-minutes-before-shots-fired-sources-say/Q6GIK5RP6RBY5PHIMYBNXRTEBI/ |
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 15, 2024 23:56:56 GMT
I can't find the article, but I thought I read somewhere that the secret service counter-snipers apparently had a rifle aimed at the shooter which was why he was taken out so quickly. There was also a warning to police about a minute and a half before the shooting started. www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2024/07/15/trump-rally-shooting-witness-warning/Almost immediately after the assassination attempt on former president Donald Trump at his campaign rally in western Pennsylvania on Saturday, some in the crowd told reporters that they had tried to alert law enforcement that a suspicious man was on a nearby roof. Now, a newly surfaced video backs up those accounts of warnings, showing a chaotic scene in which bystanders started calling out to police nearly a minute and a half before the shots rang out. |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jul 16, 2024 0:09:52 GMT
That seems on brand for Trump to only care about himself and not even care about his supporters. I understand that Trump is busy with the convention, but he couldn't take 15 minutes to call the widow of one of his supporters, shot at his rally? He probably will now in order to look good. |
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 16, 2024 5:37:05 GMT
I’m pretty sure you don’t know what facts are. What you posted as facts are certainly not. I think you need some lessons in critical thinking. Feel free to prove anything I'm claiming as FACT is not a fact. Otherwise, as you surely must know, personal attacks are not proof. Same goes for you, onelasttime It wasn't rape and Biden is credibly accused of the very same thing. Before she came out with it, years after it supposedly happened, randomly Trump's accuser claimed his TV show was her favorite show. How many people that are sexually assaulted love their assaulter's anything? FACTS. If I’m understanding what you are suggesting is the woman who claimed trump sexually assaulted her is lying because of your “fact”. Are you suggesting that she lied?He didn't evade, he used legal means to use the same tax advantages that those accusing him of evasion use. FACTSThe same standards you're applying to Trump, have to also be applied to Biden. FACTSNope. He never did that. That hoax has been debunked numerous times. At the very least, read Snopes. FACTS Ah the old “ You also had some very find people on both sides” quote. “. Problem was on one side there were white nationalists , another name for Nazis. Which would mean he was calling white nationalist “very fine people”.A recount. He was asking for a recount. Clearly an opinion based on FACTS. Completely legal and well within his rights. FACTS He asked to “find” a specific number of votes. From where I come from “find” and “recount’ mean 2 entirely different things. And seems the Grand Jury recommended the indictment seem to agree with that."admires Putin and wants to be just like him," Propaganda. ***MY OWN opinion. My opinion is he’s Putin’s puppet"wives, his third one can’t stand him any more." Did she tell you that, or are you mind reading too? ***A question FROM ME, not "the Right's misinformation talking points" You keep ignoring the part where trump told the same group that they had to fight and to fight like hell otherwise they wouldn’t have a country. You are also ignoring the fact the Commander-in-Chief waited a little over 90 minutes after the rapid response team of the National Guard was suited up and ready to go before giving the order to go to the Capital "encourages an act of sedition" By telling people to go peacefully and asking for more National Guard to prevent what he's supposedly encouraging?🙄 ***Another question FROM ME based on FACTS, not "the Right's misinformation talking points" Deny it all you want but you are the embodiment of the right’s talking points. IMO. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 16, 2024 6:22:11 GMT
Tonight CNN is saying that there were LE Snipers on the second floor of the building where the shooter was.
Seems more then a few balls were dropped.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 16, 2024 6:25:37 GMT
I cannot quickly find the post about the bandage on TFG ear. I would think it is hard for a bandage there. It may also have the larger coverage to avoid contact and/or germs.
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Post by dawnnikol on Jul 16, 2024 10:47:57 GMT
So this is problematic: Channel 11′s Nicole Ford confirmed that Beaver County’s ESU team had eight members at the rally, including snipers and spotters. According to Ford’s sources, one of them noticed a suspicious man on a roof near the rally at 5:45 p.m., called it in and took a picture of the person. We have learned from our sources the person in that picture is Thomas Crooks. We’re told it’s not clear if Crooks had a gun with him at that point. According to multiple sources, a law enforcement officer had also previously seen Crooks on the ground and called him in as a suspicious person with a picture prior to 5:45 p.m. Our sources tell us an officer checked the grounds for Crooks at that point, but did not see him where the first picture was taken. www.wpxi.com/news/local/alleged-trump-shooter-spotted-by-law-enforcement-nearly-30-minutes-before-shots-fired-sources-say/Q6GIK5RP6RBY5PHIMYBNXRTEBI/30 minutes is ridiculous. This, to me, adds to the staged theory. I'll be happy to eat my words when it's proven otherwise. I've seen multiple sources say that one of their spotter snipers had him in his sights for a while, which is why he was able to kill him so quickly. You're telling me you didn't see him aim that rifle? He was most likely in the prone position (laying down) because it's the most stable, especially for men. He would've had to get his calibrations on his rifle perfect AND aim. There's an interview from his high school that says he wasn't even allowed on their JROTC Rifle Team because he was a terrible shot. He knew enough to line up his sights, but it doesn't seem like he would've had a chance to hit TFG. This would then be why when TFG grabbed his ear after the shots rang out, he didn't have blood on his hand and there was none on his shirt/collar. It's all fishy. |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jul 16, 2024 11:45:31 GMT
I cannot quickly find the post about the bandage on TFG ear. I would think it is hard for a bandage there. It may also have the larger coverage to avoid contact and/or germs. Someone commented about that on the RNC thread. Maybe that is where you saw it? |
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Post by Bridget in MD on Jul 16, 2024 12:36:02 GMT
That seems on brand for Trump to only care about himself and not even care about his supporters. I understand that Trump is busy with the convention, but he couldn't take 15 minutes to call the widow of one of his supporters, shot at his rally? He probably will now in order to look good. well he didn't on Sunday... the day after. BIDEN called her, and she wouldn't accept the call, but mentioned she hadn't heard from Trump. He was prolly too busy golfing (he was photographed). |
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