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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 22, 2024 20:03:09 GMT
Republicans really hammered her with questions and demanded her resignation but it doesn't sound like she provided any new information. www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/07/22/secret-service-director-kimberly-cheatle-testimony-trump/“We must learn what happened, and I will move heaven and earth to ensure an incident like July 13th does not happen again,” she testified.
Rep. Nancy Mace (R-S.C.) asked Cheatle if she would like to use the lawmaker’s five minutes of time to “draft her resignation letter.”
Cheatle quietly responded, “No, thank you.”The Democrats were also asking questions. Cheatle was far from candid! There were instances where she could have answered some yes or no questions. I realize there was much she could not say.
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Post by mom on Jul 22, 2024 20:18:52 GMT
I watched today's hearing and wow. Honestly, she could not have been any less forthcoming. Honestly, she is going to have to go when this is all said and done. Both sides are asking questions and she had literally no answers.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jul 22, 2024 21:46:54 GMT
Do Nancy Mace's constituents like how she acts in these hearings? She is so rude.
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 22, 2024 22:50:33 GMT
I understand in the middle of an investigation and for security reasons she couldn't answer some questions. But she gave very little information in the hearing today. www.nytimes.com/2024/07/22/us/politics/kimberly-cheatle-secret-service-hearing-questions.htmlThe Questions the Secret Service Director Did Not Answer On Monday, Kimberly A. Cheatle told a House committee that she could not reveal — or did not know — key details about the attempted assassination of President Trump. Here’s what was missing.
The following are some of the questions Ms. Cheatle was asked repeatedly that she did not answer:
Why did the Secret Service not station an agent on the warehouse roof that the gunman used as a sniper’s perch?
How many Secret Service agents were assigned to protect President Trump in Butler, Pa.?
Who decided that the warehouse roof should be outside the Secret Service’s security perimeter for Mr. Trump’s rally?
Why did the Secret Service allow former President Trump to take the stage, despite people in the crowd pointing out a gunman on the warehouse roof?
How did Mr. Crooks get his rifle up onto the warehouse roof? Did he leave it there before the rally?
What additional security steps did the Secret Service take after the U.S. learned about a potential Iranian plot to kill Mr. Trump?
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 22, 2024 22:57:37 GMT
I watched today's hearing and wow. Honestly, she could not have been any less forthcoming. Honestly, she is going to have to go when this is all said and done. Both sides are asking questions and she had literally no answers. I think her days are numbered. The parties almost never agree on anything but Republicans and Democrats are calling for her resignation. Even Jamie Raskin didn't have kind words. www.nytimes.com/2024/07/22/us/politics/kimberly-cheatle-secret-service-hearing.htmlRepresentative Jamie Raskin of Maryland, the committee’s top Democrat, said he “didn’t see any daylight between the members of the two parties today at the hearing, in terms of our bafflement and outrage.”
Mr. Raskin joined the committee’s Republican chairman, Representative James R. Comer of Kentucky, in calling for her resignation. “The director has lost the confidence of Congress, at a very urgent and tender moment in the history of the country,” Mr. Raskin said.
During the hearing, 15 lawmakers — 12 Republicans and three Democrats — suggested that Ms. Cheatle should resign or be fired.
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Post by morecowbell on Jul 23, 2024 13:46:00 GMT
It was an attempted assassination. Even IF the bullet completely missed him and he was hit by debris, it doesn't change the fact that someone tried to kill him. I’m not denying that but Trump has not released his medical information and it seems possible that he was injured by debris, not a bullet as he claimed. So what.
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Post by Gennifer on Jul 23, 2024 14:24:32 GMT
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Post by morecowbell on Jul 23, 2024 14:29:44 GMT
It isn't a fact, it's a conspiracy theory.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 23, 2024 14:37:07 GMT
CNN announces Cheatle has submitted her resignstion!
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 23, 2024 14:52:46 GMT
If Trump would release his medical records, then we would have more facts. I think the facts about the source of his injury will come out in the investigation anyway.
The medical report matters. Republicans are extremely hypocritical in their demands for information about Biden’s cognitive abilities and medical reports about his recent bout with covid. Trump has never been forthcoming about his medical records. The letter from a disgraced, demoted, clearly biased and partisan doctor is ridiculous.
It’s not a conspiracy theory, it’s a reasonable conclusion based on the available evidence of the injured motorcycle police officers in close proximity to Trump.
The source of his injury matters because he claimed he was shot. The truth and facts matter. For someone who insists on precision in the most minute details, you are very loose with the truth if it involves Republicans.
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 23, 2024 14:54:52 GMT
CNN announces Cheatle has submitted her resignstion! I’m not surprised. I hope whoever replaces her is more forthcoming with information.
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Post by mom on Jul 23, 2024 15:07:39 GMT
CNN announces Cheatle has submitted her resignstion! Thats the best news of the day. Took her longer than it should have.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jul 23, 2024 15:14:44 GMT
If Trump would release his medical records, then we would have more facts. I think the facts about the source of his injury will come out in the investigation anyway. The medical report matters. Republicans are extremely hypocritical in their demands for information about Biden’s cognitive abilities and medical reports about his recent bout with covid. Trump has never been forthcoming about his medical records. The letter from a disgraced, demoted, clearly biased and partisan doctor is ridiculous. It’s not a conspiracy theory, it’s a reasonable conclusion based on the available evidence of the injured motorcycle police officers in close proximity to Trump. The source of his injury matters because he claimed he was shot. The truth and facts matter. For someone who insists on precision in the most minute details, you are very loose with the truth if it involves Republicans. This is where I’m sitting too. Trump really likes to be able to control the narrative regardless of what the facts actually are, and he’s shown that he has no trouble telling bald faced lies in service to that. So yes, IMO the facts in this situation really DO matter. There’s stuff that either doesn’t add up or make sense surrounding this whole mess so having truthful, factual statements from the people on the ground would really help to sort out all the questions people have. I’m sorry, but if someone is shooting at me the absolute dead last thing I would do is pop my freaking head up and fist pump for a photo op or worry about my shoes. That’s just weird.
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Post by breetheflea on Jul 23, 2024 15:16:49 GMT
If Trump would release his medical records, then we would have more facts. I think the facts about the source of his injury will come out in the investigation anyway. The medical report matters. Republicans are extremely hypocritical in their demands for information about Biden’s cognitive abilities and medical reports about his recent bout with covid. Trump has never been forthcoming about his medical records. The letter from a disgraced, demoted, clearly biased and partisan doctor is ridiculous. It’s not a conspiracy theory, it’s a reasonable conclusion based on the available evidence of the injured motorcycle police officers in close proximity to Trump. The source of his injury matters because he claimed he was shot. The truth and facts matter. For someone who insists on precision in the most minute details, you are very loose with the truth if it involves Republicans. This is where I’m sitting too. Trump really likes to be able to control the narrative regardless of what the facts actually are, and he’s shown that he has no trouble telling bald faced lies in service to that. So yes, IMO the facts in this situation really DO matter. There’s stuff that either doesn’t add up or make sense surrounding this whole mess so having truthful, factual statements from the people on the ground would really help to sort out all the questions people have. I’m sorry, but if someone is shooting at me the absolute dead last thing I would do is pop my freaking head up and fist pump for a photo op or worry about my shoes. That’s just weird. He also said "fight" several times.
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 23, 2024 15:31:28 GMT
Facts about the source of his injury also matter because Trump keeps claiming he took about a bullet for democracy and is fundraising off that.
His medical report matters because the health and fitness of presidential candidates matters. Republicans have been beating this drum for 3 years. Only the health and fitness of the Democratic candidate matters? If a Democratic candidate was shot, Republicans would never tolerate the lack of information.
Regarding the missing report - did he suffer a concussion? Is that why he fell asleep during his own convention? What is he hiding by not providing the report?
Without question, the secret service failed in their duty to protect him. And there should be a thorough investigation into the events of that day. As part of that investigation, he should release his medical report from the hospital in Pennsylvania to show he has nothing to hide.
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 23, 2024 16:10:37 GMT
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Post by Gennifer on Jul 23, 2024 18:43:48 GMT
It isn't a fact, it's a conspiracy theory. Until it is verified, everything is in question. He was shot at, yes. But was he shot? Was he injured by a bullet or by debris? That is an important distinction.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 23, 2024 19:03:39 GMT
It isn't a fact, it's a conspiracy theory. Until it is verified, everything is in question. He was shot at, yes. But was he shot? Was he injured by a bullet or by debris? That is an important distinction. Agreed!! The whole thing is a mess. Someone must provide answers, and soon!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 24, 2024 14:25:48 GMT
The hearing today July 24th with Wray..
Did everyone catch what Jordan did this morning?
Instead of saying Biden administration. He made a point to say the Biden Harris administration!!
Deliberate move to harass VP Harris!!
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Post by wholarmor on Jul 24, 2024 18:10:09 GMT
Matt Gaetz was trying to get Wray to say that Biden was incompetent and in decline. I'm glad that Wray kept insisting that he did not notice that.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 24, 2024 21:55:57 GMT
aj2hallI heard a partial answer today. His long gun had a folding stock. I guess that means it could have been in his pants? Were they in awe?
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Post by pinklady on Jul 25, 2024 12:35:13 GMT
Until it is verified, everything is in question. He was shot at, yes. But was he shot? Was he injured by a bullet or by debris? That is an important distinction. Well well well, looking more like shot at.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 25, 2024 12:56:12 GMT
Keep on mind Ronny Jackson's medical license expired in 2020, with the exception that he is still licensed to provide emergency care until sometime in 2025. Again he is not licensed to provide routine medical care out side of a military hospital setting.
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Post by peppermintpatty on Jul 25, 2024 14:14:12 GMT
Keep on mind Ronny Jackson's medical license expired in 2020, with the exception that he is still licensed to provide emergency care until sometime in 2025. Again he is not licensed to provide routine medical care out side of a military hospital setting. Don't you mean Ronny Johnson? Dumbass doesn't even know that guys name.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 25, 2024 14:16:56 GMT
Keep on mind Ronny Jackson's medical license expired in 2020, with the exception that he is still licensed to provide emergency care until sometime in 2025. Again he is not licensed to provide routine medical care out side of a military hospital setting. Don't you mean Ronny Johnson? Dumbass doesn't even know that guys name. And TFG has no cognitive issues? Sure he doesn't..
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 25, 2024 17:12:22 GMT
Until it is verified, everything is in question. He was shot at, yes. But was he shot? Was he injured by a bullet or by debris? That is an important distinction. Well well well, looking more like shot at. Hmm... Trump's injury being caused by debris is looking a lot less like a conspiracy theory and more like the truth. And no surprise that Trump is playing the hero, taking a bullet for democracy etc and probably lying about it
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Post by Gem Girl on Jul 25, 2024 23:04:37 GMT
Keep on mind Ronny Jackson's medical license expired in 2020, with the exception that he is still licensed to provide emergency care until sometime in 2025. Again he is not licensed to provide routine medical care out side of a military hospital setting. Needing a handful of Adderall before a rally is probably an emergency to his boss....
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Post by Scrapper100 on Jul 25, 2024 23:57:37 GMT
Really curious where the men were that got shot in comparison to TFG. Maybe I just missed it but in the past there were diagrams? Where the shooter was and his victims. I know there is still an ongoing investigation but I wonder if we will ever get any more information. Guess I’m wondering how close to TFG as far as in the line of fire. I’m sure they are really looking at that though.
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Post by Merge on Jul 26, 2024 0:04:09 GMT
No bandage and no visible wound on his ear today or yesterday - but we're supposed to believe a bullet went through it?
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Post by sideways on Jul 26, 2024 0:22:31 GMT
No bandage and no visible wound on his ear today or yesterday - but we're supposed to believe a bullet went through it? He had what looks like a bandaid on it. If a bullet from an AR-15 hit his ear, part of it would be missing. There’s no way that injury was from a bullet.
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