Handing the election to DT

I am worried about that as well. But it has to be KH. You can’t bypass the VP at this point in time. I had concerns about her because her presidential bid was not good. However, she has been provided a lot of opportunities to deal with heads of state and governors here, and it looks like she has found her footing. But will the US vote for a woman? I hope so.

Even from other women - this thread included. It’s very sad to see.

I'm not either. I voted for Hillary even though I'm not fond of her. I would again if she had been a gracious stateswoman instead of such a sore loser.

I would probably have to vote for Kamala even though she isn't as qualified. Hillary had been a senator, Secretary of State and a de facto member of her husband's cabinet, so she had more experience in international affairs. As VP, we've seen little from Kamala. The border was supposed to be her purview and it's a mess.

It isn't just speculation and comments saying that Biden can’t win. It's data. Survey methodology may be less accurate these days, but there's still a range of confidence and it's not looking good.

When it came to immigration Kamala was tasked with working with the countries where the majority of migrants were leaving to see if the US could help these countries make things better for the people so they would want to stay instead of heading north.  Hence the trips she took south to meet with the various leaders.  

Early on they figured out that wasn’t going to work.

The security of the border has always been under Homeland Security.

I literally saw an entire video about her laugh. A lonnnnng compilation. So the woman laughs for real, without a sneer or derisive look. She is willing to be seen experiencing joy. How the hell is that weaponized?? I can’t believe I still have amazement in me.

In general with this thread and so many others…. I keep reading this stuff. “Ohhhhh… it’s not meeeeee… I would vote for ____. But “Americans” won’t”… well. My grandmother “had no problem” with black people. But “some people did…” She made a point to tell me that when we dropped off Avon products at people’s houses, the only house we didn’t go into (even though we were invited) was a black woman’s home.

I’m all for disagreement, but dang. Own it. And quit saying and reinforcing and “normalizing” ridiculous crap. It is not acceptable.

Either run Harris or don’t. Quit talking about the “some people” that won’t vote for a black woman, a woman, or a whatever. Maybe THEY won’t. But if you signal your support rather than the constant negative repetition of some random “Peapolitics wisdom” maybe, just maybe, “some people may surprise you. We have woman governors. Gay ones, black ones, a black VP. A woman that won the popular vote for President.

I was a never Hillary voter, and I sure as hell don’t want to vote for Biden. I was furious that more Republicans didn’t support Nikki Haley.. I know y’all didn’t like her either, but idc, anyway. I’m stuck voting for Biden, or Harris or who ever and believe me- I’d rather Harris’s laugh than the well rehearsed Scranton Joe act.

Also, discussing the “replace Biden” issue, the Pea narrative is that that is stupid and doomed to fail etc… yet politicians who literally go on record with their paying jobs and real names consider it a valid discussion.

The voters didn’t have a chance to speak. The party line was no one runs against him. People literally voted uncommitted to signal discontent with his handling of Israel/Gaza (intentionally didn’t say Hamas.. Mass killing still happening- 39,4xxPalistinian deaths, 89,xxx wounded. Mostly women and children and rising.)

As far as “Republicans” aren’t talking about replacing their guy… they did. In the primaries and unfortunately that disgusting man still won. Hopefully choosing Vance as VP will hurt, and he’s an outspoken a**hole too.

If democracy is literally, truly on the line- y’all better walk in that Black Woman’s house. Befriend her, if she’ll have you. And make it seen. Don’t do a driveway drop. Be an example rather than a finger wagger.

And I think it’s gross that someone felt the need to retweet about a woman (any woman) adjusting her underwear, pantyhose, pad, tangled bush, wtf ever referring to it as “scratching her balls.”

Yeah, this smells a lot like the MSM taking over the train. They can rot. 

I was wondering who they planned to run if not Biden

I just don’t think VP Harris is strong to beat Trump. Unfortunately, some people won’t for a woman and sadly some won’t because she’s a woman of color. I hate that because neither should matter but it’s the truth.

One of my coworkers said she would never vote for a woman to be president because we are too emotional. I was actually shocked that a woman would say this.

Not picking on you personally, but I am so damn tired of hearing this! 

My thought on this is just STOP giving the "some people..." excuse any oxygen.

Stop with the "some people won't vote for a women," or "some people won't vote for a gay man" blah blah blah that prefaces the "but that's the reality," "that's the truth," yada yada yada EXCUSES.

IMO, every time we say these kind of words, we are implicitly giving people permission to hold these beliefs. Stop using this an excuse not to get behind anyone who stands a fighting chance to beat Trump. 

Let's start proclaiming, "I WILL vote for a woman candidate" and this is WHY. Stop making excuses and start demanding better from yourself and everyone around you.

Climbing quietly down my soap box now.

You said it better than me, without being me- and I appreciate you.

I cannot understand why people keep normalizing this. People who supposedly abhor misogyny. 

Well, you know how we fist fight, have road rage incidents, physically abuse our partners, start wars...you mean that kind of emotion? Fair enough.

Oh, wait. That's men.

I keep having conversations with my daughter about why we need to get behind Biden, or anyone who isnt Trump.
Biden is losing the young vote over what is happening in Gaza. Not because they can't relate to him.

There are only 2 choices in this election.  And only 2.

A is trump
B is President Biden.

If you vote for A you”re voting for trump.
If You vote for B you’re voting for President Biden
If you don’t vote, you’re voting for A
If  you vote 3rd party you’re voting for A.

If trump wins it will be totally the voters fault and absolutely no one else.

If trump wins and he puts this country through hell, which he will, it will be the voters fault.  And no one else.

If he starts WWIII, which he very well could since he seems to be in Putin’s pocket.  It will be the voters fault.

IMO this is the highest stakes this country has ever had to face in an election

As far the young people that Biden is losing.  Well let me put it this way.  If trump wins they will have to live a lot longer with the misery he will create then I will.

The information on what kind of man he is, what kind of thugs he surrounds himself with, and what they plan for this country  is “out there”.  All they have to do is open their baby blues and look at what’s staring them in the face.

Its that simple.

Do the young people even know the history of Gaza? Another media and tik tok and etc. campaign of lies and everyone is going for it...bots, it just sucks