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Post by monklady123 on Jul 21, 2024 18:48:28 GMT
I’m in Georgia with my right-leaning husband, brother, and SIL, and we’re all concerned. None of them are Trumpers though. And my whole Georgia contingent (ds, partner, her two dds) is here in Virginia. They are all total Democrats. One of the dds said she was happy to be visiting in a blue area.  |
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Post by katybee on Jul 21, 2024 18:49:13 GMT
Biden backs harris. I’d love to see a harris/buttigeg pairing but know that strategically that hands trump the win. I’d love the same….but unfortunately, we need a white, cis, straight man. |
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Post by Merge on Jul 21, 2024 18:49:58 GMT
I'm saying we need to now pick someone who can win. I can't handle four more years of Trump and if the dems swing too far left with their choice and lose the undecideds, independents, and other non hard-core democrats he will win again Kamala is not swinging left at all. She's quite moderate. Agree, but there are plenty who see any Black woman as “far left” or “unqualified” regardless of her actual policy positions. |
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Post by epeanymous on Jul 21, 2024 18:50:26 GMT
I can’t decide if I’m more relieved or scared. Why the fuck couldn’t he have decided this a year ago? Agree but I am all in. Let’s go. |
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Post by Merge on Jul 21, 2024 18:50:28 GMT
Biden backs harris. I’d love to see a harris/buttigeg pairing but know that strategically that hands trump the win. I’d love the same….but unfortunately, we need a white, cis, straight man. Beshear may be the best option. |
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 21, 2024 18:50:49 GMT
Having Kamala could draw in more young voters who are against old white men. and maybe lose votes because old people won't vote for a woman |
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Post by Merge on Jul 21, 2024 18:51:02 GMT
For those who haven’t seen, Biden has also endorsed Kamala.
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Post by katybee on Jul 21, 2024 18:51:27 GMT
Biden backs harris. I’d love to see a harris/buttigeg pairing but know that strategically that hands trump the win. While I do like Pete, I think a Harris/Mark Kelly ticket could win. I like this a lot…. I think he would deliver Arizona. |
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Post by epeanymous on Jul 21, 2024 18:52:13 GMT
I'm saying we need to now pick someone who can win. I can't handle four more years of Trump and if the dems swing too far left with their choice and lose the undecideds, independents, and other non hard-core democrats he will win again Problem we have is that to lots of those people, almost anyone other than Biden is too far left (or “unqualified” for other reasons as we’ve seen one person here pretend). It’s how he got nominated in the first place. If Kamala is the nominee, as I think she will have to be, they will have to pick the most straightlaced, white, good ol’ boy they can find for VP, and it still may not be enough. The irony is that no matter who the Democrat is the current republicans will call them a communist anyway. They did it to Biden. |
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jul 21, 2024 18:52:15 GMT
Kamala is not swinging left at all. She's quite moderate. Agree, but there are plenty who see any Black woman as “far left” or “unqualified” regardless of her actual policy positions. You’re talking a republican thinks that, NOT dems. We need to stop worry what the republicans think. They wouldn’t vote for any dem |
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Post by katybee on Jul 21, 2024 18:52:18 GMT
Kamala is not swinging left at all. She's quite moderate. Agree, but there are plenty who see any Black woman as “far left” or “unqualified” regardless of her actual policy positions. I don’t think anyone who feels that way was ever going to vote for a democrat anyway. |
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Post by Tearisci on Jul 21, 2024 18:52:54 GMT
My DS who is 32 texted me the news this morning and was very happy that it won'e be a race between 2 old white guys. He's energized about Kamala and I'll be interested to see who she picks as her running mate.
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Post by Merge on Jul 21, 2024 18:53:12 GMT
Agree, but there are plenty who see any Black woman as “far left” or “unqualified” regardless of her actual policy positions. I don’t think anyone who feels that way was ever going to vote for a democrat anyway. Then why did we have to nominate Biden the first time? |
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Post by katybee on Jul 21, 2024 18:53:31 GMT
I’d love the same….but unfortunately, we need a white, cis, straight man. Beshear may be the best option. I like that, too. |
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Post by hopemax on Jul 21, 2024 18:53:45 GMT
Having Kamala could draw in more young voters who are against old white men. and maybe lose votes because old people won't vote for a woman One of the polling breakdowns I saw, had a pretty big shift away from Ds to Trump if it’s Harris, among voters 65+. The most reliable voters. It’s gonna be a problem. |
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jul 21, 2024 18:53:48 GMT
I don’t think anyone who feels that way was ever going to vote for a democrat anyway. Then why did we have to nominate Biden the first time? We shouldn’t have!! |
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Post by Merge on Jul 21, 2024 18:54:23 GMT
Agree, but there are plenty who see any Black woman as “far left” or “unqualified” regardless of her actual policy positions. You’re talking a republican thinks that, NOT dems. We need to stop worry what the republicans think. They wouldn’t vote for any dem No, I’m not. It’s the primary reason we had to nominate Biden in the first place. |
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Post by peano on Jul 21, 2024 18:55:47 GMT
Biden backs harris. I’d love to see a harris/buttigeg pairing but know that strategically that hands trump the win. While I do like Pete, I think a Harris/Mark Kelly ticket could win. Pro gun legislation Mark Kelly!? That WOULD be ceding the election. All those rootin’, tootin’, shooting’ Republicans… The buzz I’m hearing is a swing state politician. |
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Post by epeanymous on Jul 21, 2024 18:55:52 GMT
FWIW, my wealthy white retired FIL who lives in Florida is super jazzed about Kamala Harris, and he is not a person who typically gets jazzed about someone like Kamala Harris.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jul 21, 2024 18:56:27 GMT
I think at the time they needed an establish politician, who would show stability in the time of Covid. That is why he was nominated
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Post by peabay on Jul 21, 2024 18:57:09 GMT
Kamala is not swinging left at all. She's quite moderate. Agree, but there are plenty who see any Black woman as “far left” or “unqualified” regardless of her actual policy positions. I'm sure you're right but I would guess many of those folks probably aren't voting anyway in the "they're all the same" vein. I wonder if many of the Desi population will now rally to her - it'll be interesting. I have a friend who was born in India who is over the moon excited about this. It's the first time in this election cycle that I haven't felt doomed, tbh. Hopefully she'll pick just the right VP and support will grow. |
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Post by padresfan619 on Jul 21, 2024 18:57:30 GMT
I will vote for whoever has a D next to their name.
Thank you for your service President Biden, may this go down as one of the best decisions in your legacy as president.
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Post by monicad on Jul 21, 2024 18:59:37 GMT
Those of you who are saying we can’t win are campaigning for Trump right now. This election isn’t just about electing a president, it is about preserving democracy. This is what I (and hopefully others) am voting for. It's bigger than just the presidential candidate and their running mate. |
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Post by papersilly on Jul 21, 2024 19:00:38 GMT
I’d love the same….but unfortunately, we need a white, cis, straight man. yup, i think that will calm a lot of unspoken fears and to balance all that toxic masculinity coming from the other party. |
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Post by Gennifer on Jul 21, 2024 19:01:11 GMT
Kamala is not swinging left at all. She's quite moderate. I think to some people, Kamala is “left” just because she’s a WOC, and they don’t know anything about her actual political stances. |
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Post by mom on Jul 21, 2024 19:01:39 GMT
While I do like Pete, I think a Harris/Mark Kelly ticket could win. Pro gun legislation Mark Kelly!? That WOULD be ceding the election. All those rootin’, tootin’, shooting’ Republicans… The buzz I’m hearing is a swing state politician. IMHO Kelly would bring people who want to be able to have their gun but also have gun control. There is a large part of the population that want to keep their guns, but have more legislation re: access and semi automatic weapons. Kelly intoduced the GOSAFE Act. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 21, 2024 19:03:03 GMT
I am quite ambivalent about this. I will vote for whatever candidate. They just need to hurry and do it soon so that another month doesn’t go by. It might be Kamala and logically that’s who it should be but she is a woman of color and I know there are those who think she should be in the kitchen making pancakes. I am grateful for his service. I do think that if the republicans could rally around criminal Tr. We could have done the same for Biden. I don’t think our chances are much better now. I think anyone who won't vote for her because she "should be in the kitchen" weren't going to vote Blue anyway. Sad for Biden. Thrilled for Harris. Overjoyed for our country. So very sorry that it is too soon for Buttigieg.. his time is coming. Let them trash Harris because that will reflect extremely badly on Usha Vance and her hypocrite DH.. |
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 21, 2024 19:05:09 GMT
I am grateful to President Biden for his service and wish him well. I don't like how this was handled and I'm mad that the media & big donors pushed him out, it was incredibly disrespectful I just hope the takeaway is that Biden sacrificed for our country, put our country first, did the honorable thing by passing the torch etc. I hope the reality and the spin is not that the Democrats are in chaos. The Democrats really need to get their sh&t together this week and unite behind Harris.
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Post by FuzzyMutt on Jul 21, 2024 19:06:00 GMT
Agree, but there are plenty who see any Black woman as “far left” or “unqualified” regardless of her actual policy positions. You’re talking a republican thinks that, NOT dems. We need to stop worry what the republicans think. They wouldn’t vote for any dem That is absolutely NOT true. Alot of Republicans were/are being (not literally) forced to vote for a dem. I'm just glad that there aren't actually many dems I'd like to vote for LESS than I want to vote for Biden. I'm thrilled to vote for a ticket with Kamala Harris as President. Absolutely over the moon. Millennials have surpassed boomers in numbers, and most of those 65+, at least that I know, were planning to vote Trump anyway. I believe young people, have come up in larger numbers with less negative bias towards women and people of color in leadership positions. Kamala Harris' race and gender may be less of a negative than so many of yall want to think. Energize them! What an opportunity to actually get someone in office that cares about them, and their issues vs dinner table issues of the 70's. They will vote in greater numbers! Positivity folks! This is a GOOD thing! |
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 21, 2024 19:08:01 GMT
Agree, but there are plenty who see any Black woman as “far left” or “unqualified” regardless of her actual policy positions. I don’t think anyone who feels that way was ever going to vote for a democrat anyway. I know at least a handful and I figure if in my small group there are some, there are a whole bunch more out there |
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