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Post by aj2hall on Aug 5, 2024 1:58:11 GMT
Interesting post, I wonder if it means he is the VP pick? Shapiro is still my first choice, but he's a close 2nd. My only reservation with Kelly is the potential to lose a Senate seat in a year or two. And PA has more electoral votes. But, Kelly would be a solid choice and has the potential to win over veterans. He could also help with immigration and border issues which is definitely a weakness for Democrats. Mark KellyCaptain Mark Kelly @captmarkkelly Whether it was from my time in the Navy and at NASA, serving in the United States Senate, or visiting our troops overseas: I've learned that when your country asks you to serve, you always answer the call.
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Post by pantsonfire on Aug 5, 2024 2:07:50 GMT
I really hope it isn't Mark Kelly. Ugh
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Post by Lurkingpea on Aug 5, 2024 3:00:54 GMT
I had to google how old Mark Kelly is. I thought he was a lot older. He is not my first choice. I willingly admit I don’t have the info and intel others do though. Hopefully Harris picks who will best help her win.
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Post by peano on Aug 5, 2024 3:25:42 GMT
Just read an article by John Heilemann from Puck News, which I subscribe to strictly for his incisive and humorous political commentary, which I came to admire after watching HBO Max's The Circus. Speculating on the VP pick, he says that Democrats have little appetite for an outside the box candidate after the roller-coaster-y past few weeks.
Shapiro has been viewed as an obvious choice, but Dems in the know also like Walz for the way he's handled himself in interviews, and the way he lucidly criticized T and his uber-Right minions, “These are weird people on the other side. They want to take books away. They want to be in your exam room. Don’t sugarcoat this, these are weird ideas. Listen to them speak, listen to how they talk about things.”
Heilemann said interviews like this captured KH's attention, those closest to her and a whole lot of other Dems. Nancy Pelosi and Bernie have been talking him up.
In an interview I watched, I liked his simple and direct no-nonsense communication style which I assume comes from his time in the military, but he also possessed a likable and relatable warmth as when talking about his children.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Aug 5, 2024 11:50:54 GMT
Walz is my #1 choice. I worry Shapiro will cause some divide within the party, although I really do like him. We need Kelly to keep his seat in the Senate. I love Pete too, but they will use his sexuality as a reason not to vote for them I honestly feel she has so many amazing choices!
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 5, 2024 19:47:07 GMT
Let me get this straight, Harris who is a moderate, needs one of the “chosen” above to be on the ticket to get moderates and independents to vote for her? Are you talking about Democratic or Republican moderates along with left leaning or right leaning independents? Yes, because whether YOU believe it or not, plenty believe she is farther left. She needs a moderate on the ticket with her. It's the only way to persuade some of the undecided and moderates. Like she said, this is about strategy and winning right now. Not about the perfect ticket in the perfect circumstances. Kamala Harris is a pragmatic moderate as are Presidents Biden and Obama. Pete Buttigieg is a moderate. The fact Democrats have to “persuade “ voters not to vote for trump/Vance tells you just how messed up the voters of this country are and why we are in the mess we are in today.
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Post by mom on Aug 5, 2024 20:39:52 GMT
I am concerned that Shapiro could still have some ugly baggage with the sexual harassment scandal.
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 5, 2024 21:49:54 GMT
Michael Beschloss…
”For those who have a preference, who would you like to see as Democratic Vice Presidential nominee and why?l
Some responses..
”Pete...if things were different. Pete is one of the smartest, most articulate, and bravest people in the administration...and the kindest.
But it should be either Shapiro, Kelly, or Walz because I live in this world, not in La La Land.”
“💙 Pete too. I think he would do well as Sec of State. I'm sorry his non traditional family is not a big + for VP!”
”hope she picks Walz because I believe it would be the joy ticket and it would be unbeatable. I can’t emphasize enough how much we, as citizens, need it after the last decade. It’s fun to speculate.”
”Andy Beshear. Young, energetic and he can bring in moderate votes being loved in KY even by Republicans,”
“Buttigieg, followed by Walz”
“Shapiro. Executive level leadership, law background, young and runs a pivotal swing state.”
”Mark Kelly is the whole package.📦”
“Pete Buttigeg. Speaks 8 verbal and one non verbal language. He is a Vet, he is incredibly intelligent and well spoken. He would be great on domestic or foreign issues.”
“I hear it's down to Walz and Shapiro now. I don't know if Walz is any less pro-Israel than Shapiro, but if he is, then he's the one I want.”
”My dream candidate? Buttigieg - he’s a brilliant communicator, he’s a hardcore team player who has done great work implementing the infrastructure bill, he’s smart as the dickens, and he would complete the picture of the future along with her. My “accept real life” fave: Walz.”
”I’d be equally happy with Pete and Walz, followed by Shapiro and then Kelly. All are good picks - Walz feels like the best pick for the mood of the country and fit with Kamala to me.”
”Given that Walz and Shapiro are the alleged finalists, I want Walz. He’s got more of an everyman vibe that will connect with more of the voters in areas who have felt for some time that the Democratic Party abandoned them.”
”Pete Buttigieg. There’s no one more intelligent and articulate. Many Fox News viewers have become fans after seeing his numerous appearances on the channel. He always looks presidential, even in hostile territory. Also, his name on the ticket will further energize young voters.”
”Harris & Shapiro are urbane. Walz is everyman. Biden has made too much progress for us to go back to the 'coastal elites' concept.
Walz' 12 yrs in Congress only he brings. Vets, teachers, good on gun rights, girl dad, successful progressive legislation as Gov. #WalzForVP”
”In an ideal world, Buttigieg.
In our world, Shapiro.”
”Buttigieg. He’s been thoroughly vetted, quick on his feet, loyal, experienced with a national campaign. Best partner for her. They know each other well. Anyone else feels like an arranged marriage. She and he would project a dynamic, youthful image. I could go on all day.”
”Pete Buttigieg
Received the most foreign policy endorsements in primaries Knows how a national campaign is run Will NEVER betray Kamala for his own ambitions He is the most known across the country + approval He will energize younger voters The freedom theme is Pete2020”
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Post by h2ohdog on Aug 5, 2024 22:53:06 GMT
I am concerned that Shapiro could still have some ugly baggage with the sexual harassment scandal. Also, I have just started listening to some podcasts about Ellen Greenberg’s death in Philadelphia in 2011, when Josh Shapiro was DA. There was some talk about impropriety in the handling of the case.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 6, 2024 13:09:37 GMT
Kamala Harris has selected Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz to be her running mate in the race to be the next president.
The name was released by CNN on Tuesday.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Aug 6, 2024 13:18:10 GMT
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Post by sean&marysmommy on Aug 6, 2024 13:27:10 GMT
I didn't see that coming! What advantages do ya'll see for Walz over Shapiro or Kelly? I'm not opposed to him, I just don't know much about him at all.
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Post by casii on Aug 6, 2024 13:29:29 GMT
Walz is good dad energy, all inclusive energy and a great addition to the Harris ticket. I'm so excited!
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Post by dawnnikol on Aug 6, 2024 13:31:35 GMT
I didn't see that coming! What advantages do ya'll see for Walz over Shapiro or Kelly? I'm not opposed to him, I just don't know much about him at all. Military, football coach, teacher.
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Post by pantsonfire on Aug 6, 2024 13:40:36 GMT
Time to look him up. 😃
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Post by pantsonfire on Aug 6, 2024 13:44:07 GMT
Here is an article from ABC 7 LA: abc7.com/post/who-is-tim-walz-kamala-harris-vp-pick/15149812/Vice President Kamala Harris is poised to pick Minn. Gov. Tim Walz as her vice presidential running mate. Who is the two-term governor joining her on the ticket? Walz, who grew up in the small town of West Point, Nebraska, was a social studies teacher, football coach and union member at Mankato West High School in Minnesota before he got into politics. He won the first of six terms in Congress in 2006 from a mostly rural southern Minnesota district, and used the office to champion veterans issues. Walz served 24 years in the Army National Guard, rising to command sergeant major, one of the highest enlisted ranks in the military. He ran for governor in 2018 on the theme of "One Minnesota" and won by more than 11 points. As governor, Walz had to find ways to work in his first term with a legislature that was split between a Democratic-controlled House and a Republican-led Senate. Minnesota has a history of divided government, though, and the arrangement was surprisingly productive in his first year. But the COVID-19 pandemic hit Minnesota early in his second year, and bipartisan cooperation soon frayed. Walz relied on emergency powers to lead the state's response. Republicans chafed under restrictions that included lockdowns, closing schools and shuttering businesses. They retaliated by firing or forcing out some of his agency heads. But Minnesotans who were stuck at home also got to know Walz better through his frequent afternoon briefings in the early days of the crisis, which were broadcast and streamed statewide. Walz won reelection in 2022 by nearly 8 points over his GOP challenger, Dr. Scott Jensen, a physician and vaccine skeptic. Not only did Walz win, Democrats kept control of the House and flipped the Senate to win the "trifecta" of full control of both chambers and the governor's office for the first time in eight years. A big reason was the Supreme Court's Dobbs decision, which held that the Constitution doesn't include a right to abortion. That hurt Minnesota Republicans, especially among suburban women. "Tim has been in the news because the country and the world is seeing the guy we love so much," U.S. Sen. Amy Klobuchar Klobuchar said Monday. Ken Martin, Chairman of the Minnesota-Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party said young people he spoke to on the campaign trail were "Walz pilled." Walz and other Democrats went into the 2023 legislative session with an ambitious agenda - and a whopping $17.6 billion budget surplus to help fund it. Their proudest accomplishments included sweeping protections for abortion rights that included the elimination of nearly all restrictions Republicans had enacted in prior years, including a 24-hour waiting period and parental consent requirements. They also enacted new protections for trans rights, making the state a refuge for families coming from out of state for treatment for trans children. Their other major accomplishments included tax credits for families with children that were aimed at slashing childhood poverty, as well as universal free school breakfasts and lunches for all students, regardless of family income. They also enacted a paid family and medical leave program, legalized recreational marijuana for adults and made it easier to vote. Republicans complained that Walz and his fellow Democrats squandered a surplus that would have been better spent on permanent tax relief for everyone. And they've faulted the governor and his administration for lax oversight of pandemic programs that cost taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars. Federal prosecutors charged 70 people with defrauding federal food programs that funded meals for kids during the pandemic out of $250 million on Walz's watch. Known as the Feeding Our Future scandal, it's one of the country's largest pandemic aid fraud cases. The Office of the Legislative Auditor, a nonpartisan watchdog, delivered a scathing report in June that said Walz's Department of Education "failed to act on warning signs," did not effectively exercise its authority and was ill-prepared to respond. Republicans still criticize Walz for his response to the sometimes violent unrest that followed the murder of George Floyd by a Minneapolis police officer in 2020, which included the torching of a police station. During a May fundraiser in St. Paul, Trump repeated his false claim that he was responsible for deploying the National Guard to quell the violence. "The entire city was burning down. ... If you didn't have me as president, you wouldn't have Minneapolis today," Trump said It was actually Walz who gave the order, which he issued in response to requests from the mayors of Minneapolis and St. Paul. But within Minnesota, GOP legislators said both Walz and Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey were too slow to act. And there was finger-pointing between Frey and Walz on who was responsible for not activating the Guard faster. Walz has served often as a Biden-Harris surrogate, and has made increasingly frequent appearances on national television. They've included an interview on Fox News that irritated Trump so much that he posted on Truth Social, "They make me fight battles I shouldn't have to fight." Walz is also co-chair of the rules committee for the Democratic National Convention. And he led a White House meeting of Democratic governors with Biden following the president's disastrous performance in his debate with Trump. Putting Walz on the ticket could help Democrats hold the state's 10 electoral votes and bolster the party more broadly in the Midwest. No Republican has won a statewide race in Minnesota since Tim Pawlenty was re-elected governor in 2006, but GOP candidates for attorney general and state auditor came close in 2022. Trump finished just 1.5 percentage points behind Democrat Hillary Clinton in the state in 2016. While Biden carried Minnesota by more than 7 points in 2020, Trump has taken to falsely claiming that he won the state last time and can do it again. Minnesota has produced two vice presidents, Hubert Humphrey and Walter Mondale.
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 6, 2024 13:54:06 GMT
This morning when I woke up I thought it might be Walz.
Why? Because he just made a trip to SF. He posted that came to SF, took his usual 5 mile run through The Presidio and his hotel was downtown and thought SF was a beautiful city.
The fact that he was in SF may have nothing to do with why he was chosen or he met with someone Harris wanted to hear their opinion on her potential choice.
Or not. But I was not surprised by her choice.
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