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Post by aj2hall on Jul 23, 2024 16:40:18 GMT
Sorry for all of the political threads, but I didn't want to derail the Harris for President or Biden threads.
Trump and the Republicans are absolutely losing their minds over President Biden passing the torch. They're mad their entire convention and campaign was all about bashing President Biden. They were not prepared and don't have a plan yet. Their candidate and policies are widely unpopular. They chose the wrong VP to run against Harris and are probably really regretting that choice. Instead of choosing someone like Haley or Rubio who could appeal to more voters they were arrogant and doubled down on MAGAism.
MeidasTouch @meidastouch
Trump’s social media feed is absolutely humiliating and getting sadder by the minute. He is not taking any of this well.
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Post by agengr2004 on Jul 23, 2024 16:41:17 GMT
Young?  |
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 23, 2024 16:44:30 GMT
Young? Right? He's even more delusional than usual. |
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Post by peabay on Jul 23, 2024 16:45:21 GMT
Trump's been working the pole?
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Post by twinks on Jul 23, 2024 16:45:33 GMT
Well he is definitely delusional.
There is a difference between pole and poll.
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Post by smasonnc on Jul 23, 2024 16:50:28 GMT
This is fantastic. The more he spins out the better. He’s been dialing down the crazy a bit. Bet he can’t hold on much longer.
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Post by jill8909 on Jul 23, 2024 16:51:44 GMT
I despise Trump and have been a progressive/moderate all my life, depending on the issue.
Biden and Harris screwed up the border. It got really bad and took way too long to correct. This was a huge gift to the maga crowd. Since trump doesn't actually care about the border, it was an even bigger gift to him.
Harris is going to have to discuss this issue and talk about it in a way that just isn't about what a horrible man Trump is and how he stopped a solution.
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Post by Tearisci on Jul 23, 2024 16:57:23 GMT
... As a fine and brilliant young man working the pole.
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Post by bc2ca on Jul 23, 2024 17:01:51 GMT
Young? Trump's been working the pole? OMG, you are making me spit out my coffee this morning.  |
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Post by pinklady on Jul 23, 2024 17:03:06 GMT
At this point since the nomination for republicans is official, can Vance be replaced? Or are they locked in?
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Post by Merge on Jul 23, 2024 17:13:15 GMT
I despise Trump and have been a progressive/moderate all my life, depending on the issue. Biden and Harris screwed up the border. It got really bad and took way too long to correct. This was a huge gift to the maga crowd. Since trump doesn't actually care about the border, it was an even bigger gift to him. Harris is going to have to discuss this issue and talk about it in a way that just isn't about what a horrible man Trump is and how he stopped a solution. He did stop a solution. All she needs to do is point to the bipartisan plan that was in place and say they’ll pass that as soon as Trump is no longer pulling the strings in his party. And of course, we can also talk about why the border “got really bad” from two angles based in reality. One, quality of life and safety in several countries has been declining, forcing people who don’t necessarily want to leave their homes to leave. Two, Abbott stirred up unnecessary violence with his border stunt AND encouraged more people to come by promising them free bus rides into the interior is the country. Of course, Trump voters don’t tend to care much about reality. But Dem voters should. |
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 23, 2024 17:15:54 GMT
She describes the current situation for the Republican Party really well. heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/july-22-2024Biden’s announcement and Harris’s rapid consolidation of support and money appear to have blindsided the Trump-Vance campaign. MAGA Republicans have responded with scattershot arguments that suggest they had not thought through a scenario in which Biden would step down, an omission so astonishing it perhaps suggests they could not imagine a presumptive nominee voluntarily giving up power.
Without a coherent strategy, MAGA Republicans today have been all over the map, suggesting among other things that Biden’s voluntarily stepping down from his presumptive nomination is a “coup” and that Harris is a “D[iversity] E[quity and] I[nclusion] hire.”
For a party that is offering voters a popular set of policies, the opposing party’s nominee shouldn’t matter all that much, but Trump policies and the Trump campaign’s Project 2025 are both so unpopular that operatives intended to run not on policy but by firing up their base against Biden himself. In The Atlantic yesterday, journalist Tim Alberta explained that the entire Trump campaign apparatus was focused on Biden and that putting extremist Ohio senator J.D. Vance on the ticket “was something of a luxury meant to run up margins with the base in a blowout rather than persuade swing voters in a nail-biter.”
Now the energy appears to have shifted. As Anne Applebaum wrote today in The Atlantic, operatives staged the Republican National Convention of just last week to project strength and power, and Trump’s rambling and incoherent performance there seemed “deranged, sinister, and frightening.” Now, Applebaum wrote, “it just looks deranged,” as Biden’s decision to step away from power contrasts powerfully with Trump’s desperate attempts to cling to power with the Big Lie while he calls up his threadbare descriptions of national carnage.
The change Applebaum identified dovetailed neatly with a new political action committee started by conservative lawyer George Conway to highlight Trump’s “mental unfitness for office.” Frustrated by the apparent unwillingness of the press to cover Trump’s mental health while it focused on President Biden’s, Conway formed the “Anti-Psychopath PAC” to highlight Trump’s mental state. “The failure to treat Trump’s behavior as pathological has led the media and the country, perversely, to treat it as normal,” Conway told The Independent, and said that Project 2025 should be seen as an extension of Trump’s malignant narcissism “because basically he wants to turn the government into a mechanism for retribution.”
A post on Trump’s social media feed tonight suggested that Trump recognizes that being the oldest candidate ever nominated for the presidency is a campaign issue. The post said that “Lyin’ Kamala Harris…has absolutely terrible pole [sic] numbers against a fine and brilliant young man named DONALD J. TRUMP! Be careful what you wish for, Democrats???”
Today, Trump’s vice presidential pick Vance gave his first campaign speech at his former high school in Middletown, Ohio. There, dressed in a blue suit with a red tie that echoed Trump’s signature look, Vance spoke of his history in the town and promised that he and Trump are “ready to save America.” But his lack of experience on the campaign trail showed in his delivery, and the Fox News Channel, which was covering the speech, cut away from it while he was speaking.
Media outlets gave more attention to the Ohio state senator who preceded Vance, George Lang, who began a chant of “fight, fight, fight” and told the audience: "I believe wholeheartedly Donald Trump and Butler County's JD Vance are the last chance to save our country politically. I'm afraid if we lose this one, it's going to take a civil war to save the country, and it will be saved." He later posted on social media that he regretted his “divisive remarks.”
Later in the day, Vance spoke in Radford, Virginia, where he said that “[h]istory will remember Joe Biden as not just a quitter, which he is, but as one of the worst presidents in the history of the United States of America.” He continued: “Kamala Harris is a million times worse and everybody knows it. She signed up for every single one of Joe Biden’s failures, and she lied about his mental capacity to serve as president.” |
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Post by pinklady on Jul 23, 2024 17:17:25 GMT
And so it begins 🤣😂🤣
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Post by gar on Jul 23, 2024 17:18:29 GMT
Love that you're using Liz's lettuce  |
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Post by papersilly on Jul 23, 2024 17:19:52 GMT
the GOP are losing their minds? i'm here for it. every minute of it.
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Post by hopemax on Jul 23, 2024 17:26:49 GMT
At this point since the nomination for republicans is official, can Vance be replaced? Or are they locked in? Technically both Trump and Vance could be replaced. Basically each state’s RNC committee can revote. The difficulty becomes state ballot deadlines. Ballotpedia State Party Rules for Replacing NomineeUnfortunately the “jump to” link doesn’t seem to work, so you need to scroll down. Bottom line, they could probably replace him before the DNC, and ballots get printed if they really wanted to. |
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jul 23, 2024 17:26:52 GMT
... As a fine and brilliant young man working the pole. ...this is definitely a visual I did *NOT* want- ewww!!!  re: Vance: "But his lack of experience on the campaign trail showed in his delivery, and the Fox News Channel, which was covering the speech, cut away from it while he was speaking." That is funny. Must have been pretty darn bad, if FOX actually decided to cut away from covering him. |
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Post by Lurkingpea on Jul 23, 2024 17:53:05 GMT
Young? Right? He's even more delusional than usual. The "young" comment made me lol, for real. He is unhinged. |
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Post by Lurkingpea on Jul 23, 2024 17:53:55 GMT
Trump's been working the pole? For once I am glad I don't have a working mind's eye. That must be one hell of a disturbing image. |
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Post by pinklady on Jul 23, 2024 17:59:54 GMT
No wonder they are panicking 🤣😂🤣
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Post by disneypal on Jul 23, 2024 18:12:31 GMT
His entire platform wasn't about what he could do, it was about bashing Joe Biden. Now he doesn't know what to do since he can't just get up there and bad mouth Biden. He's not used to having to actually have a real platform to stand on.
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Post by naby64 on Jul 23, 2024 18:13:49 GMT
Just typing out loud here, should Trump continue to spiral to a point of having a major medical event, who do we think the party would throw out there? Or would they? Would they let, or could he, Vance run on the ticket and move him up a step. I don't wish death upon anybody, but an event is not out of the picture. And not a whizzing by event.
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Post by peabay on Jul 23, 2024 18:18:55 GMT
No wonder they are panicking 🤣😂🤣 Had a very interesting conversation with my 21 year old dd this afternoon - she was talking about how powerful memes are to her generation and there was nowhere to go with Biden memes as he aged (and got further away from the Obama/Biden relationship), but plenty with Trump. She said that there's a lot of Harris memes now - and a lot about her being "worthy" of funny (and not disparaging) memes. My kid is convinced this can make or break the youth vote. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 23, 2024 18:29:52 GMT
Young? Brilliant?? |
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Post by Tearisci on Jul 23, 2024 18:33:04 GMT
No wonder they are panicking 🤣😂🤣 Had a very interesting conversation with my 21 year old dd this afternoon - she was talking about how powerful memes are to her generation and there was nowhere to go with Biden memes as he aged (and got further away from the Obama/Biden relationship), but plenty with Trump. She said that there's a lot of Harris memes now - and a lot about her being "worthy" of funny (and not disparaging) memes. My kid is convinced this can make or break the youth vote. My DS is very politically savvy and is really excited about Kamala. He just wasn't enthused about Biden and I get it- I wasn't either. I think this could be a game changer and get younger people involved. At first I was a little skeptical but I've come around to being more excited about the possibility of her winning. |
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Post by Just T on Jul 23, 2024 19:12:17 GMT
My DS is very politically savvy and is really excited about Kamala. He just wasn't enthused about Biden and I get it- I wasn't either. I think this could be a game changer and get younger people involved. At first I was a little skeptical but I've come around to being more excited about the possibility of her winning. My daughters are in their 20s and my youngest son just turned 30. They were all very meh about Biden this time and were thinking of all voting 3rd party if there was one. We live in a red state so it probably wouldn't have mattered in the end anyway, but they are all excited about Harris. I haven't talked about it with my oldest son who lives in Denver, but he is very liberal and hates Trump, so I have no doubt he will vote for Harris. My oldest daughter and my oldest son are gay, so Trump and his agenda are very scary to them. |
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Post by peabay on Jul 23, 2024 19:12:19 GMT
Had a very interesting conversation with my 21 year old dd this afternoon - she was talking about how powerful memes are to her generation and there was nowhere to go with Biden memes as he aged (and got further away from the Obama/Biden relationship), but plenty with Trump. She said that there's a lot of Harris memes now - and a lot about her being "worthy" of funny (and not disparaging) memes. My kid is convinced this can make or break the youth vote. My DS is very politically savvy and is really excited about Kamala. He just wasn't enthused about Biden and I get it- I wasn't either. I think this could be a game changer and get younger people involved. At first I was a little skeptical but I've come around to being more excited about the possibility of her winning. Same with my girls. The last time they were all "ugh, hate the prosecutor background" and now they are like "screw the prosecutor background - we need her and we're all in." And they said their friends are all the same. |
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 23, 2024 20:16:13 GMT
No wonder they are panicking 🤣😂🤣 Had a very interesting conversation with my 21 year old dd this afternoon - she was talking about how powerful memes are to her generation and there was nowhere to go with Biden memes as he aged (and got further away from the Obama/Biden relationship), but plenty with Trump. She said that there's a lot of Harris memes now - and a lot about her being "worthy" of funny (and not disparaging) memes. My kid is convinced this can make or break the youth vote. The internet is on fire with memes about her today. NYT even had a story about it. On TikTok, someone spliced her laugh, coconut tree and Venn diagrams into a Taylor Swift song https://www.tiktok.com/@adeadredhead/video/7393379181473844526 www.nytimes.com/2024/07/23/arts/kamala-harris-tiktok-trump.html |
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