breetheflea
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Post by breetheflea on Sept 16, 2024 19:42:34 GMT
It's just weird. How did the guy know Trump was going to be playing golf in 12 hours (how long they are saying he might have been sitting there.)Trump supposedly had not planned to play golf. The SS just happened to notice a gun sticking out of the hedge. The gunshots were the secret service, not the dude with the gun? Did they hit anything? Because they didn't hit the assassin who was able to just get in his car and drive off. Then they just happened to spot his car later, they didn't follow it from the crime scene? And he calmly just pulls over. Very very weird.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 16, 2024 20:17:42 GMT
It's just weird. How did the guy know Trump was going to be playing golf in 12 hours (how long they are saying he might have been sitting there.)Trump supposedly had not planned to play golf. The SS just happened to notice a gun sticking out of the hedge. The gunshots were the secret service, not the dude with the gun? Did they hit anything? Because they didn't hit the assassin who was able to just get in his car and drive off. Then they just happened to spot his car later, they didn't follow it from the crime scene? And he calmly just pulls over. Very very weird. There was a witness who saw a suspicious man get in the black Nissan. He took a picture of the car and license plate. The car was stopped elsewhere ID by license plate readers cameras. The witness identified the suspect when he was taken to where he was.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 16, 2024 20:21:49 GMT
All.of you implying it is a Trump supporter trying to Garner sympathy for Trump should know that this guy is clearly not a Trump supporter. As I said earlier in this thread he was a Bernie supporter and then Tulsi supporter. Unless he had a radical change I really doubt he is a Trump guy. His Twitter was nuts, but definitely skewed Democrat or even Socialist, certainly not Republican. He tweeted hundreds of times how he wanted to go to Ukraine to fight against Putin. The man is probably unhinged, but spreading theories about how it is a Trump supporter trying to get sympathy is something the Republicans would say if the roles were reversed. Just a note: he came from Hawaii. Gabbard has hooked up with and supports TFG, she helped with his debate prep. She, in fact, was a US Rep from Hawaii. So there is a connection to TFG in a way, sort of...
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 16, 2024 20:32:28 GMT
TFG had been notified by the SS that the Juniper golf cube was very difficult to secure. However, it seems that concerns about the security of the Jupiter club have been well known for weeks now. ABC News' Katherine Faulders reports that the Secret Service had warned Trump against playing at the Jupiter club after it conducted a threat assessment at multiple Trump properties in the wake of the first attempt on his life in July."Trump Jupiter is a residential course surrounded by houses on most of the holes, so it's much harder to manage from a security perspective," Faulders wrote, citing unnamed sources. It is unknown if the Secret Service had resolved its security concerns about the Jupiter club before Trump took in a round of golf on Sunday. www.rawstory.com/trump-golf-secret-service/
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Gem Girl
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Jun 29, 2014 19:29:52 GMT
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Post by Gem Girl on Sept 16, 2024 20:33:23 GMT
He’s fine. His ears are fine. Meanwhile,all hell is breaking loose in Springfield thanks to him and Vance. So…thoughts and prayers, I guess? This is what bothers me most. To do something that causes innocents to suffer just for your own gain is the definition of evil.
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Gem Girl
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Post by Gem Girl on Sept 16, 2024 20:35:01 GMT
How did the guy know Trump was going to be playing golf in 12 hours It's pretty much all he does.
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dawnnikol
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Post by dawnnikol on Sept 16, 2024 20:35:19 GMT
All.of you implying it is a Trump supporter trying to Garner sympathy for Trump should know that this guy is clearly not a Trump supporter. As I said earlier in this thread he was a Bernie supporter and then Tulsi supporter. Unless he had a radical change I really doubt he is a Trump guy. His Twitter was nuts, but definitely skewed Democrat or even Socialist, certainly not Republican. He tweeted hundreds of times how he wanted to go to Ukraine to fight against Putin. The man is probably unhinged, but spreading theories about how it is a Trump supporter trying to get sympathy is something the Republicans would say if the roles were reversed. There are plenty of people who aren't "Trump supporters" who have allegiances elsewhere but having that puppet as POTUS helps them, too. Have we forgotten about all the Russian interference and the most recent news? The subterfuge has been going on for YEARS. We may never have a full understanding and grasp on just how far the US has been infiltrated all to sway elections to the people other countries want in place. I don't like sounding like a fucking Conspiracy Theorist with my tinfoil hat and basement full of supplies. The fact of the matter is that TFG and his family have accepted money from foreign countries, he has met with foreign leaders (whether as POTUS or re-running), and his week has been shit. I do not put anything past him or his handlers to get the situation well in hand before they have time to sow more doubt on November 5th.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 16, 2024 20:35:21 GMT
He’s fine. His ears are fine. Meanwhile,all hell is breaking loose in Springfield thanks to him and Vance. So…thoughts and prayers, I guess? This is what bothers me most. To do something that causes innocents to suffer just for your own gain is the definition of evil. And to have Vance ADMIT that they made up stories to fit their narrative,!!!
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 16, 2024 20:37:28 GMT
I agree that he is not likely a Trump supporter or someone set up by the Trump camp for attention (I would not put that past them, but this isn't it). However, he clearly did not pay attention to what happened after the last assassination attempt and that Trump's ratings were boosted for awhile. I wouldn't be surprised if he was angry that Trump is not supportive of Ukraine and was pushed over the edge with recent statements from Trump and Vance. But who knows at this point.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 16, 2024 20:40:35 GMT
All.of you implying it is a Trump supporter trying to Garner sympathy for Trump should know that this guy is clearly not a Trump supporter. As I said earlier in this thread he was a Bernie supporter and then Tulsi supporter. Unless he had a radical change I really doubt he is a Trump guy. His Twitter was nuts, but definitely skewed Democrat or even Socialist, certainly not Republican. He tweeted hundreds of times how he wanted to go to Ukraine to fight against Putin. The man is probably unhinged, but spreading theories about how it is a Trump supporter trying to get sympathy is something the Republicans would say if the roles were reversed. There are plenty of people who aren't "Trump supporters" who have allegiances elsewhere but having that puppet as POTUS helps them, too. Have we forgotten about all the Russian interference and the most recent news? The subterfuge has been going on for YEARS. We may never have a full understanding and grasp on just how far the US has been infiltrated all to sway elections to the people other countries want in place. I don't like sounding like a fucking Conspiracy Theorist with my tinfoil hat and basement full of supplies. The fact of the matter is that TFG and his family have accepted money from foreign countries, he has met with foreign leaders (whether as POTUS or re-running), and his week has been shit. I do not put anything past him or his handlers to get the situation well in hand before they have time to sow more doubt on November 5th. If anyone of us deliberately met with Netenyahu, Orban and Putin to discusses American's foreign policy etc, we would be in prison, held on violation of the Logan Act.. It is illegal, it is against federal law!!
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Post by hopemax on Sept 16, 2024 21:18:10 GMT
All.of you implying it is a Trump supporter trying to Garner sympathy for Trump should know that this guy is clearly not a Trump supporter. As I said earlier in this thread he was a Bernie supporter and then Tulsi supporter. Unless he had a radical change I really doubt he is a Trump guy. His Twitter was nuts, but definitely skewed Democrat or even Socialist, certainly not Republican. He tweeted hundreds of times how he wanted to go to Ukraine to fight against Putin. The man is probably unhinged, but spreading theories about how it is a Trump supporter trying to get sympathy is something the Republicans would say if the roles were reversed. He didn't just want to go to Ukraine, he went to Kyiv to get involved in the freedom fighting (which apparently also involved Afghan soldiers). And people there recognized him as Coco for Cocopuffs or Fruit Loops or insert your favorite cereal that also functions as an insult. And yet it's people here, who for some reason need to believe that he's the perfect person to execute some multi-dimension level chess, involving the Secret Service for Trump's benefit. And for those that might think Russia is somehow involved in this, they are too busy opportunistically trying to pin this on the Ukrainian government. The people who have gotten through life by being an opportunist, are trying to make hay. Don't mistake their opportunist attempts as evidence of involvement or pre-planning.
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Post by mom on Sept 16, 2024 21:24:58 GMT
There are plenty of people who aren't "Trump supporters" who have allegiances elsewhere but having that puppet as POTUS helps them, too. Have we forgotten about all the Russian interference and the most recent news? The subterfuge has been going on for YEARS. We may never have a full understanding and grasp on just how far the US has been infiltrated all to sway elections to the people other countries want in place. I don't like sounding like a fucking Conspiracy Theorist with my tinfoil hat and basement full of supplies. The fact of the matter is that TFG and his family have accepted money from foreign countries, he has met with foreign leaders (whether as POTUS or re-running), and his week has been shit. I do not put anything past him or his handlers to get the situation well in hand before they have time to sow more doubt on November 5th. If anyone of us deliberately met with Netenyahu, Orban and Putin to discusses American's foreign policy etc, we would be in prison, held on violation of the Logan Act.. It is illegal, it is against federal law!! Well Harris has met with Netanyahu. So it’s not like it’s just Trump.
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Post by katlady on Sept 16, 2024 21:33:11 GMT
All.of you implying it is a Trump supporter trying to Garner sympathy for Trump should know that this guy is clearly not a Trump supporter. As I said earlier in this thread he was a Bernie supporter and then Tulsi supporter. Unless he had a radical change I really doubt he is a Trump guy. His Twitter was nuts, but definitely skewed Democrat or even Socialist, certainly not Republican. He tweeted hundreds of times how he wanted to go to Ukraine to fight against Putin. The man is probably unhinged, but spreading theories about how it is a Trump supporter trying to get sympathy is something the Republicans would say if the roles were reversed. In June 2020, Routh appeared to say that he had voted for Trump in 2016, but that he had since withdrawn his support of the former president.“I and the world hoped that president Trump would be different and better than the candidate, but we all were greatly disappointment and it seems you are getting worse and devolving,” he wrote on X, formerly Twitter. “I will be glad when you gone.”www.cnn.com/2024/09/16/us/ryan-routh-trump-what-we-know-intl-hnk/index.htmlHe seems to be a very complicated person. He supported Trump at one time, then supported Bernie Sanders, then this year supported Vivek Ramaswamy. I think his strongest passion is the war in Ukraine. He tried to fight for Ukraine, but was turned down apparently for mental reasons. He also tried to recruit people to fight for Ukraine.
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Post by katlady on Sept 16, 2024 21:37:54 GMT
If anyone of us deliberately met with Netenyahu, Orban and Putin to discusses American's foreign policy etc, we would be in prison, held on violation of the Logan Act.. It is illegal, it is against federal law!! Well Harris has met with Netanyahu. So it’s not like it’s just Trump. Logan's Law makes it illegal for an American citizen to engage in unauthorized talks with foreign countries that we are in dispute with. Harris is the current VP. I am sure her meetings with Netanyahu were authorized by the government.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Sept 16, 2024 21:41:00 GMT
If anyone of us deliberately met with Netenyahu, Orban and Putin to discusses American's foreign policy etc, we would be in prison, held on violation of the Logan Act.. It is illegal, it is against federal law!! Well Harris has met with Netanyahu. So it’s not like it’s just Trump. But as the vice president not as just a citizen or presidential candidate.
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Post by mom on Sept 16, 2024 22:08:43 GMT
Well Harris has met with Netanyahu. So it’s not like it’s just Trump. Logan's Law makes it illegal for an American citizen to engage in unauthorized talks with foreign countries that we are in dispute with. Harris is the current VP. I am sure her meetings with Netanyahu were authorized by the government. And Netanyahu requested to meet with Trump. I’m not sure it wasn’t authorized. Surely our government would have shut that down if they didn’t want it to happen.
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Post by katlady on Sept 16, 2024 22:29:49 GMT
Logan's Law makes it illegal for an American citizen to engage in unauthorized talks with foreign countries that we are in dispute with. Harris is the current VP. I am sure her meetings with Netanyahu were authorized by the government. And Netanyahu requested to meet with Trump. I’m not sure it wasn’t authorized. Surely our government would have shut that down if they didn’t want it to happen. Maybe they could have stopped it with a show of force, but I don't think they wanted those optics. I mean, I really don't know how they could have prevented the two from meeting without some altercation/protest/conflict. As long as you are not going into restricted space, can the government prevent tourist or someone with a visa from traveling around the country? Serious question from me.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 16, 2024 22:50:08 GMT
Logan's Law makes it illegal for an American citizen to engage in unauthorized talks with foreign countries that we are in dispute with. Harris is the current VP. I am sure her meetings with Netanyahu were authorized by the government. And Netanyahu requested to meet with Trump. I’m not sure it wasn’t authorized. Surely our government would have shut that down if they didn’t want it to happen. They should have, given his loose interpretation of the law and norms.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 16, 2024 23:00:19 GMT
If anyone of us deliberately met with Netenyahu, Orban and Putin to discusses American's foreign policy etc, we would be in prison, held on violation of the Logan Act.. It is illegal, it is against federal law!! Well Harris has met with Netanyahu. So it’s not like it’s just Trump. No. Harris IS the Vice President of the United States! TFG is an ordinary citizen!
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