lesley
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Post by lesley on Oct 7, 2024 21:27:56 GMT
It’s interesting you should mention your kid with ARFID and autism jeremysgirl. My DS has been diagnosed with ARFID and wouldn’t ever consider sushi even now at the age of 26 (although he loves seafood), and my DD who is autistic, has adored sushi since about the age of four or five, although no piece can touch any other piece on her plate. Kids, huh?! 😄
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Post by littlemama on Oct 7, 2024 21:42:34 GMT
I dont think they needed to provide chicken nuggets per se, but if they werent serving something more "mainstream" (sandwiches, grilled chicken, burgers, hot dogs, tacos etc), then I think they should have told people what they were planning so they could make their own decision about what to do as far as lunch. I probably know more people who dont eat sushi than do and I would be pretty surprised to see it served as the only option for adults, much less kids.
My ds has always eaten a wide range of foods, but he wouldnt have known what to do with sushi when he was a child.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Oct 7, 2024 21:48:14 GMT
We went out for sushi in Japan when I first got there. We are talking 1986. I threw up with the first bite. I didn’t mean to do that. My poor parents there were bewildered and didn’t know what to do with me.
I would never serve sushi to kids ever unless I knew they could tolerate it.
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Post by melanell on Oct 7, 2024 22:11:12 GMT
And this is why I have horrible anxiety about hosting. I stress way too much about what to serve, so I avoid inviting people over. DH doesn't understand and is often frustrated with me. I wish it wasn't an issue for me as I'm generally not a worrier. Oh, I'm so sorry about this. I promise you that 9 times out of 10 whatever you serve your family and friends will be generally liked. And when in doubt, have a potluck. Most of your friends and family won't think twice about bringing food to share with everyone. It's a great way to try new things and everyone can bring something they like. We've started having an approximately once a month pot luck with our local family and it really has worked out nicely in regards to this sort of thing. The one thing to remember is not to feel you need to bring enough of any one thing for every person to eat, else you'll wind up with enough food for a small army.
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Post by bc2ca on Oct 7, 2024 22:21:42 GMT
Given that they were going to a childless couple's house, I would have zero expectation that they would cater to the kids. As parents of young kids, we always had food with us that would easily bridge them to the next meal. At that point in my life I doubt I left home without crackers, cheerios, apples, cuties and carrots in my bag.
There is no such thing as a one-size fits all kid friendly food. I've had kids over that won't touch pasta, pizza, hot dogs, anything green, etc., and other kids that picked among the offerings or ate everything and anything. Even serving birthday cake and ice cream is an interesting experience of cake only or frosting only or ice cream only or cake + ice cream or frosting + ice cream eaters.
FWIW, in my circle sushi is kid friendly. And if I'm serving sushi at home it is 100% vegan unless it is take-out.
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Post by gillyp on Oct 7, 2024 22:43:08 GMT
I wonder if it's just me or if most of our non-US Peas are perplexed at the idea that someone would be invited for a meal and turn up with food for their children, or even themselves. I think I would be quite miffed if someone I invited arrived with food unless it was a big gathering and everyone was providing something. I invite people round for their company and so we can relax and have a good time, I don't want them to worry that they or their children might go home hungry. If they weren't people I'd eaten with on a regular basis, I'd be checking beforehand that what I was planning was suitable and I'd make any adjustments. I'd be horrified if my invitation was causing my guests any stress over the food.
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Post by littlemama on Oct 7, 2024 22:57:21 GMT
I wonder if it's just me or if most of our non-US Peas are perplexed at the idea that someone would be invited for a meal and turn up with food for their children, or even themselves. I think I would be quite miffed if someone I invited arrived with food unless it was a big gathering and everyone was providing something. I invite people round for their company and so we can relax and have a good time, I don't want them to worry that they or their children might go home hungry. If they weren't people I'd eaten with on a regular basis, I'd be checking beforehand that what I was planning was suitable and I'd make any adjustments. I'd be horrified if my invitation was causing my guests any stress over the food. This exactly. When I host, I make sure there is something for everyone.
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Post by littlemama on Oct 7, 2024 23:00:08 GMT
Given that they were going to a childless couple's house, I would have zero expectation that they would cater to the kids. As parents of young kids, we always had food with us that would easily bridge them to the next meal. At that point in my life I doubt I left home without crackers, cheerios, apples, cuties and carrots in my bag. There is no such thing as a one-size fits all kid friendly food. I've had kids over that won't touch pasta, pizza, hot dogs, anything green, etc., and other kids that picked among the offerings or ate everything and anything. Even serving birthday cake and ice cream is an interesting experience of cake only or frosting only or ice cream only or cake + ice cream or frosting + ice cream eaters. FWIW, in my circle sushi is kid friendly. And if I'm serving sushi at home it is 100% vegan unless it is take-out. You are correct that there isnt a one size fits all kid friendly food, but the host could absolutely have asked since it was only a couple of children. For a large group of children, most people choose something generally kid friendly and then have other things as well. For example, pizza is generally kid friendly. I would also have breadsticks and salad. That would cover the vast majority of kids.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Oct 7, 2024 23:05:14 GMT
gillyp I try to please my guests too. But having a child like I did, I couldn't cook a dinner to please her every day so no way would I expect anyone else to cater to her strict dietary rules. I've been eating vegan for the past 4 months. I was very strict the first three. And no, I didn't expect anyone else to accommodate my dietary restrictions. I did take my own food when I spent time with friends. I had decided that I wasn't going to be as tight with my diet when I went out but after some serious allergic reactions that I hope to figure out soon, I am back to eating plant based. I know that the way I choose to eat is so outside of the norm that I don't even expect Jeremy to eat it. I can't expect other people to cook it.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Oct 7, 2024 23:22:20 GMT
It’s interesting you should mention your kid with ARFID and autism jeremysgirl. My DS has been diagnosed with ARFID and wouldn’t ever consider sushi even now at the age of 26 (although he loves seafood), and my DD who is autistic, has adored sushi since about the age of four or five, although no piece can touch any other piece on her plate. Kids, huh?! 😄 I'm laughing about the food touching. Esther couldn't have two foods mixed together or touching either.
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Post by katlady on Oct 7, 2024 23:29:24 GMT
It’s interesting you should mention your kid with ARFID and autism jeremysgirl. My DS has been diagnosed with ARFID and wouldn’t ever consider sushi even now at the age of 26 (although he loves seafood), and my DD who is autistic, has adored sushi since about the age of four or five, although no piece can touch any other piece on her plate. Kids, huh?! 😄 I'm laughing about the food touching. Esther couldn't have two foods mixed together or touching either. I did not like my food mixing, and I would prop my plate in a way that the juices/sauces didn’t run into other food on the plate. 😂 I still don’t like my sauces mixing, but since I am an adult now I don’t prop up my plate anymore. 😂
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Post by gillyp on Oct 7, 2024 23:41:13 GMT
gillyp I try to please my guests too. But having a child like I did, I couldn't cook a dinner to please her every day so no way would I expect anyone else to cater to her strict dietary rules. I've been eating vegan for the past 4 months. I was very strict the first three. And no, I didn't expect anyone else to accommodate my dietary restrictions. I did take my own food when I spent time with friends. I had decided that I wasn't going to be as tight with my diet when I went out but after some serious allergic reactions that I hope to figure out soon, I am back to eating plant based. I know that the way I choose to eat is so outside of the norm that I don't even expect Jeremy to eat it. I can't expect other people to cook it. My DH is a carnivore and I am plant based so cooking differently/separately for the two of us is normal here and I would happily cater to you and Jeremy at the same time. Conversely, I don't expect special treatment from my hosts. There is usually something I can eat when not at home. I think my friends would be taken aback if I turned up with food but it's all down to communication imho.
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Post by gillyp on Oct 7, 2024 23:45:31 GMT
It’s interesting you should mention your kid with ARFID and autism jeremysgirl . My DS has been diagnosed with ARFID and wouldn’t ever consider sushi even now at the age of 26 (although he loves seafood), and my DD who is autistic, has adored sushi since about the age of four or five, although no piece can touch any other piece on her plate. Kids, huh?! 😄 I'm laughing about the food touching. Esther couldn't have two foods mixed together or touching either. This reminds me slightly of a little boy I was looking after and I cooked lunch for him. I can't remember what it was but I'd made a silly, simple face out of what was on his plate, thinking he would think it was fun. Poor child burst into tears and wouldn't eat a thing!
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Post by jeremysgirl on Oct 7, 2024 23:56:06 GMT
gillyp I try to please my guests too. But having a child like I did, I couldn't cook a dinner to please her every day so no way would I expect anyone else to cater to her strict dietary rules. I've been eating vegan for the past 4 months. I was very strict the first three. And no, I didn't expect anyone else to accommodate my dietary restrictions. I did take my own food when I spent time with friends. I had decided that I wasn't going to be as tight with my diet when I went out but after some serious allergic reactions that I hope to figure out soon, I am back to eating plant based. I know that the way I choose to eat is so outside of the norm that I don't even expect Jeremy to eat it. I can't expect other people to cook it. My DH is a carnivore and I am plant based so cooking differently/separately for the two of us is normal here and I would happily cater to you and Jeremy at the same time. Conversely, I don't expect special treatment from my hosts. There is usually something I can eat when not at home. I think my friends would be taken aback if I turned up with food but it's all down to communication imho. While I wouldn't expect it, I would totally appreciate it.
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Oct 8, 2024 0:12:42 GMT
In regards to eating, there are different types of households.
Some households, are everyone eats what is being served, no matter what. Some households, if you you don't like like what is being served, then you make whatever you want to eat (and clean up the mess from that). Some households, require "must try at least two bites". Some household, whoever is doing the cooking....caters to every everyone and makes different things for some or all. And, everything in-between.
I personally am a very plain and picky eater. If it's a "sit down" meal and I don't know what is being served, I decline the invite. If it's a BBQ or potluck, I can usually find something I like. I always eat a but little beforehand, so if there's nothing I like, then I won't be hungry. If I am attending, it's usually for the socializing and the food is secondary to that.
If someone makes a scene about my eating (or lack thereof) or tries to guilt me into trying something or having a bite....it makes me feel uncomfortable and causes me anxiety. If I need to, I will excuse myself and leave the situation.
I eat what I like. I don't eat what I don't want to. I am happy that way. It's other people that have issues with my eating (or lack thereof).....that's on them, not me.
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Post by leslie132 on Oct 8, 2024 0:45:13 GMT
My kids who are 11 would eat the sushi in a heartbeat. They are terrific eaters and would have no problem eating just about any meal a hostess would put in front of them. I still voted that Parents should have asked and come prepared. That is just the way it rolls when you take your kids. Yes, it’s nice if other people look out for them, but in the end it would be myself and my husband who would have to deal with the hunger meltdown. So being prepared is the best option for everyone!!
ª(what’s funny is Id need a lunch packed for me as I wouldn’t touch the sushi with a 10 ft pole. My kids do not get their good eating habits from me!!!!)
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Post by wordyphotogbabe on Oct 8, 2024 1:29:40 GMT
If I were the host, I would make what I wanted for the meal while also asking about everyone's allergies/preferences and if I could provide an alternate option for the children.
If I were the guest, I would make sure that I brought food for my child(ren) without expecting or asking if the host could make something else for my kids.
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Post by bc2ca on Oct 8, 2024 2:06:31 GMT
You are correct that there isnt a one size fits all kid friendly food, but the host could absolutely have asked since it was only a couple of children. Sure, they could have, but I think this one is more on the parents who live in kid world than hosts who don't.
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Post by getting started on Oct 8, 2024 11:20:46 GMT
This post reminded me too of a quite funny mother of 4 I used to follow when I was on Twitter. She had said that the very best thing to bring to a potluck with children was a crockpot full of buttered noodles. She said there is never anything left at the end of the party. LOL! I laughed but walked away thinking my kids were very weird because neither of them would be up for buttered noodles. This to me was the quintessential post related to "kid-friendly" food I have ever encountered. I agree with you about the "kid-friendly" food. We tried so hard to feed our kids healthy food which often meant a simplified version of what the adults were eating until the kids decided they were ready for more flavour etc. You reminded me that once a good friend invited us over for dinner. She served lasagna to the group of parents and she served buttered noodles to the kids. My kids didn't want buttered noodles, I had never served it to them (where's the nutrition in that?). There were no vegs/fruit side dishes either. So my kids asked for lasagna but I had to tell them no because she had only made enough lasagna for the adults. I would never start a post about this, we just went along her the host's plan but it's funny looking back at it. And yes, my kids ate buttered noodles that night. Also my pickiest eater who I had the HARDEST time feeding a balanced diet to for 10 years is now an adult to loves sushi and every other thing he refused to eat growing up. My husband and I just look across the table at each other wondering how the change happened
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Post by lg on Oct 8, 2024 13:09:58 GMT
Sushi - if it contains raw fish that is confronting for many children and can have an odour that may put them off. The texture is also very different to a lot of foods and may feel “slimy” and thus they may have bad reactions (gagging etc)
Sushi - rice, veggies, cooked tuna or cooked chicken no problems for most kids (kids, if you don’t like the seaweed just peel it off or eat the middle bit.)
So in my mind it depends on the sushi - I will eat raw fish and even jellyfish tentacles but I will not eat squid sucker tentacles. I was raised in a house where eating seafood was tinned tuna or fish sticks from the freezer. It took me into adulthood to try sushi and I still don’t eat most seafood as it’s just not something I like as I don’t like eating things that look the same dead as they do alive…
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Post by jeremysgirl on Oct 8, 2024 13:20:55 GMT
You reminded me that once a good friend invited us over for dinner. She served lasagna to the group of parents and she served buttered noodles to the kids. My kids didn't want buttered noodles, I had never served it to them (where's the nutrition in that?). There were no vegs/fruit side dishes either. So my kids asked for lasagna but I had to tell them no because she had only made enough lasagna for the adults. I would never start a post about this, we just went along her the host's plan but it's funny looking back at it. And yes, my kids ate buttered noodles that night. This is a real story. I can imagine buttered noodles looked pretty plain next to a lasagna.
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Post by littlemama on Oct 8, 2024 16:01:39 GMT
This post reminded me too of a quite funny mother of 4 I used to follow when I was on Twitter. She had said that the very best thing to bring to a potluck with children was a crockpot full of buttered noodles. She said there is never anything left at the end of the party. LOL! I laughed but walked away thinking my kids were very weird because neither of them would be up for buttered noodles. This to me was the quintessential post related to "kid-friendly" food I have ever encountered. I agree with you about the "kid-friendly" food. We tried so hard to feed our kids healthy food which often meant a simplified version of what the adults were eating until the kids decided they were ready for more flavour etc. You reminded me that once a good friend invited us over for dinner. She served lasagna to the group of parents and she served buttered noodles to the kids. My kids didn't want buttered noodles, I had never served it to them (where's the nutrition in that?). There were no vegs/fruit side dishes either. So my kids asked for lasagna but I had to tell them no because she had only made enough lasagna for the adults. I would never start a post about this, we just went along her the host's plan but it's funny looking back at it. And yes, my kids ate buttered noodles that night. Also my pickiest eater who I had the HARDEST time feeding a balanced diet to for 10 years is now an adult to loves sushi and every other thing he refused to eat growing up. My husband and I just look across the table at each other wondering how the change happened That is wild. I would have had enough lasagna for all and then also may have had buttered noodles if I knew there were kids who didnt want lasagna.
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Post by compeateropeator on Oct 8, 2024 16:31:57 GMT
I'm laughing about the food touching. Esther couldn't have two foods mixed together or touching either. I did not like my food mixing, and I would prop my plate in a way that the juices/sauces didn’t run into other food on the plate. 😂 I still don’t like my sauces mixing, but since I am an adult now I don’t prop up my plate anymore. 😂 I also don’t like my sauces mixing. If I am putting gravy on potatoes I have to put it in a well in the middle of the potatoes until I can mix it together enough that it doesn’t ooze to some other place. When my coworkers and I go out for a team breakfast it is known and joked about (by me also, because I get it. 😄) that if I am getting the option that includes a small bit of eggs, meats, and biscuits and gravy that I have to ask for the biscuits and gravy on a small separate plate. 🤷♀️😄
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Post by cynthia1218 on Oct 9, 2024 4:21:45 GMT
as a parent of an extremely picky child (we have figured out that she has arfid in the last year). I have never assumed that there would be something at someone's house for them to eat. I either pack food for her, feed her before or after event, just pack snacks. She is 18 now and almost always has food packed for herself where ever she goes now. But serving sushi for all your guests is extremely risky - not every adult likes sushi
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Post by Darcy Collins on Oct 9, 2024 9:51:43 GMT
Given that they were going to a childless couple's house, I would have zero expectation that they would cater to the kids. As parents of young kids, we always had food with us that would easily bridge them to the next meal. At that point in my life I doubt I left home without crackers, cheerios, apples, cuties and carrots in my bag. There is no such thing as a one-size fits all kid friendly food. I've had kids over that won't touch pasta, pizza, hot dogs, anything green, etc., and other kids that picked among the offerings or ate everything and anything. Even serving birthday cake and ice cream is an interesting experience of cake only or frosting only or ice cream only or cake + ice cream or frosting + ice cream eaters. FWIW, in my circle sushi is kid friendly. And if I'm serving sushi at home it is 100% vegan unless it is take-out. You are correct that there isnt a one size fits all kid friendly food, but the host could absolutely have asked since it was only a couple of children. For a large group of children, most people choose something generally kid friendly and then have other things as well. For example, pizza is generally kid friendly. I would also have breadsticks and salad. That would cover the vast majority of kids. But it's not - seriously pizza is probably the least child friendly option these days - both gluten and dairy. I realize that this might have been the norm 10 years ago, but today it's really not. At least around here. In both our neighborhood and my kids' friend groups gluten sensitivity is ubiquitous so rule out pizza, pasta and chicken fingers. No one wants that for their kids. I get it as my parents think sushi is "weird" but today's kids are way, way more likely to eat sushi than anything with gluten or dairy in it. We're seeing a massive cultural change here and sushi can easily avoid raw fish, so don't see that as some huge barrier. .
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Post by littlemama on Oct 9, 2024 10:34:01 GMT
You are correct that there isnt a one size fits all kid friendly food, but the host could absolutely have asked since it was only a couple of children. For a large group of children, most people choose something generally kid friendly and then have other things as well. For example, pizza is generally kid friendly. I would also have breadsticks and salad. That would cover the vast majority of kids. But it's not - seriously pizza is probably the least child friendly option these days - both gluten and dairy. I realize that this might have been the norm 10 years ago, but today it's really not. At least around here. In both our neighborhood and my kids' friend groups gluten sensitivity is ubiquitous so rule out pizza, pasta and chicken fingers. No one wants that for their kids. I get it as my parents think sushi is "weird" but today's kids are way, way more likely to eat sushi than anything with gluten or dairy in it. We're seeing a massive cultural change here and sushi can easily avoid raw fish, so don't see that as some huge barrier. . Pizza is kid friendly, unless there are known allergies. I don't know any kids in my circle with dairy allergies or gluten sensitivities/celiac, so for my circle, pizza or pasta is just fine. Obviously if someone attending had those issues and let me know, Id arrange something else.
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Post by gar on Oct 9, 2024 11:05:40 GMT
I think of kid friendly as being ‘liked by the majority’ probably not too highly flavoured etc. Yes, I know a lot of kids these days have exposure to a wider range of foods (my nearly 3 yr old granddaughter cites pomegranate seeds, edamame beans and steak as her favourite foods) but I think allergies are a different thing. Kid friendly = taste etc in my world….pasta, pizza, sausages, fries etc
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Post by RedSquirrelUK on Oct 10, 2024 7:59:52 GMT
Personally I love sushi so I would have been thrilled.
But I was a child growing up with allergies and my brother was/is a picky eater, so my mother would have asked the host what they were providing, and told them about our limitations.
Sushi is not suitable for lots of people, including pregnant women and those with certain conditions or on some medication.
I think a little communication both ways in advance would have saved a lot of trouble here.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Oct 10, 2024 14:16:22 GMT
But it's not - seriously pizza is probably the least child friendly option these days - both gluten and dairy. I realize that this might have been the norm 10 years ago, but today it's really not. At least around here. In both our neighborhood and my kids' friend groups gluten sensitivity is ubiquitous so rule out pizza, pasta and chicken fingers. No one wants that for their kids. I get it as my parents think sushi is "weird" but today's kids are way, way more likely to eat sushi than anything with gluten or dairy in it. We're seeing a massive cultural change here and sushi can easily avoid raw fish, so don't see that as some huge barrier. . Pizza is kid friendly, unless there are known allergies. I don't know any kids in my circle with dairy allergies or gluten sensitivities/celiac, so for my circle, pizza or pasta is just fine. Obviously if someone attending had those issues and let me know, Id arrange something else. Wow you're lucky. I honestly feel like everyone has a gluten sensitivity these days. My kids think Annie's gluten free mac and cheese is standard as I started buying it when they were young as the little girl down the street has celiac and I always wanted to be sure I had something on hand if it was lunch time. Whether robotics, soccer, swim team or dance - every group we've been a part of while they were growing up had a no-gluten kid.
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Post by The Great Carpezio on Oct 10, 2024 15:28:17 GMT
You are correct that there isnt a one size fits all kid friendly food, but the host could absolutely have asked since it was only a couple of children. For a large group of children, most people choose something generally kid friendly and then have other things as well. For example, pizza is generally kid friendly. I would also have breadsticks and salad. That would cover the vast majority of kids. But it's not - seriously pizza is probably the least child friendly option these days - both gluten and dairy. I realize that this might have been the norm 10 years ago, but today it's really not. At least around here. In both our neighborhood and my kids' friend groups gluten sensitivity is ubiquitous so rule out pizza, pasta and chicken fingers. No one wants that for their kids. I get it as my parents think sushi is "weird" but today's kids are way, way more likely to eat sushi than anything with gluten or dairy in it. We're seeing a massive cultural change here and sushi can easily avoid raw fish, so don't see that as some huge barrier. . I think a lot of this has to do with where you live. Midwest here. Sushi is no longer some exotic thing for most people, but I can't imagine it being served at any kid gathering (maybe as an option at a potluck or something but not as a main dish). Even at an adult gathering, people would be told they were serving sushi ahead of time. It would be strange to be invited to dinner and with no prior warning, only have sushi to eat. I would love it and my kids would enjoy it, but I would not expect that at all. I absolutely know gluten sensitive people and have a good friend with celiacs. We work around it; I have known some kids but not at every gathering. Those kids either bring their own food, or we get some gluten-free pizza. When cooking, I always have gluten/dairy/whatever things made...in addition to whatever else that may or may not have gluten. et al. As far as activities: My boys are in robotics, hockey and LAX. Pizza, pasta and subs are mainstays.
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