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Post by Bridget in MD on Nov 4, 2024 1:18:47 GMT
What are your thoughts on Jason Kelce’s behavior yesterday at PSU? He was waking thru a crowd when a kid (who was filming him) “Hey Kelce! How does it feel your brother is a (expletive) for dating Taylor Swift?” Kelce turned around, snatched the phone and spiked it to the ground, picked it up and walked away. I believe the kid went after and pushed Kelce to get his phone back.
When I first saw the video I thought holy shit. I figured Kelce would be blasted for this behavior but he actually got a lot of support and props for his actions. People are saying that generation of kids are used to pulling that sort of stunt and not having any consequences, esp when they do this sort of stuff online.
Now. I think Kelce was drinking (he was holding a case of beer) but that doesn’t excuse his behavior, and like it or not, he is a role model, a representative of the Eagles and the NFL (and I think he is a commentator for ESPN or someone). I do think from now on he should have some sort of security with him.
Just curious. Do the peas give Kelce a pass or the kid?
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Post by Merge on Nov 4, 2024 1:33:52 GMT
Kelce is my new hero.
The expletive in question makes a difference to me here - the kid said Travis is a faggot for dating Taylor Swift. The insult to both Travis and Taylor coupled with the completely unnecessary slam on gay people - well, I think that kid is lucky his phone was the only thing that got broken.
I will admit I’m already disposed to like Jason Kelce because of the pushback he gave when idiots criticized his wife for not being a good enough housekeeper or some nonsense. He said that his wife is not a housekeeper and if their place is messy, that’s as much his fault as it is hers.❤️
I feel certain that Kelce will have his agent or someone replace the phone and that will be that. Hopefully the punk kid has leaned his lesson.
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Post by mom on Nov 4, 2024 1:35:41 GMT
Honestly, I think the kid (and I use that word very, very loosely as he is closer to 20 than he is 10) 'fucked around and found out'. Should have Jason responded differently? Well yeah. There is room for growth on both parties.....
Edited to add: If Kelce was my husband, I wouldn't be upset at all. If the 'kid' was my kid, I also would not be upset that his phone got broke. Id be upset that he was harassing someone.
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Post by pilcas on Nov 4, 2024 1:36:44 GMT
The kid was provoking Kelce by insulting his brother and filming. As long as he grabbed the phone @nd didn’t smack the kid I am sort of ok with it. You can’t always provoke someone on purpose and get away with it.
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Post by ellen on Nov 4, 2024 1:38:21 GMT
The kid was an absolute jerk. Who does that?
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Post by bc2ca on Nov 4, 2024 1:40:03 GMT
I will admit I’m already disposed to like Jason Kelce because of the pushback he gave when idiots criticized his wife for not being a good enough housekeeper or some nonsense. He said that his wife is not a housekeeper and if their place is messy, that’s as much his fault as it is hers.❤️ I had not heard this before and can't love it enough. I think mom hit my thoughts perfectly. The kid was clearly looking for a viral moment and he got it.
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Post by lindas on Nov 4, 2024 1:42:54 GMT
Kelce needs to learn some self control. The kid was baiting him but trashing the kid’s phone wasn’t the way to handle the situation. If he wants to keep his job with ESPN he needs to learn to control his temper, he’s not on a football field anymore.
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Post by Zee on Nov 4, 2024 2:33:18 GMT
I would have liked it better if the kid got pounded right to his bitch face but, nowadays you can't punch someone just because they're begging for it.
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Post by chaosisapony on Nov 4, 2024 2:36:44 GMT
I don't know anything about this incident other than what you have posted but from the info here it sounds like the kid got what he deserved.
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Post by AussieMeg on Nov 4, 2024 2:41:35 GMT
Yeah, fuck that kid. As mom said, he fucked around and found out. I give Kelce a pass this time. If the kid had not used the homophobic (or any other -phobic) slur, I might feel differently.
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Post by pinklady on Nov 4, 2024 2:47:25 GMT
They were both wrong. The kid is an asshole and he and his parents need to be dox’d and shamed into oblivion. Kelce was an asshole for not controlling his temper.
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Nov 4, 2024 3:22:36 GMT
The young man is a jerk. I hope the viral video follows him and affects the rest of his life. True colors usually don't change. Once he graduates College and begins his career, how will his views and beliefs affect his colleagues? I hope he never ends up in a management position.
Mr Kelce should have handled the situation differently, and he could use some public relations guidance and counseling.
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Post by silverlining on Nov 4, 2024 5:18:42 GMT
The kid was definitely way out of line. Also, Kelce needs to use caution in these public situations. As a wealthy celebrity he is at risk of crazy lawsuits. And unfortunately there are people who worship someone who tweets "I hate Taylor Swift" and now they hate her and her boyfriend and his brother!
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Post by jill8909 on Nov 4, 2024 10:00:30 GMT
We have more than enough anger in this country. Kelce should have kept walking.
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Post by hop2 on Nov 4, 2024 10:42:34 GMT
Ummm No no one should be doxxed? WTF why would you dox a college kids parents because their child was stupid on the internet? To what end? I’m sure they’ll hear enough about it from people that already know the kid.
Kid was an asshole - he fucked around & found out. I have no fucks to give for his phone. 🤷♀️
Kelce should have handled it better. I’m sure he will deal with any consequences as they come up. 🤷♀️
As a parent if that kid were mine I’d be so angry but neither of mine would ever do that. Not that mine are perfect or anything but they wouldn’t insult random people like that. If mine got angry enough, the insult would be direct not to a sibling and that word is not one they use.
However, both mine are over 18 and not on my phone plan so I have no control over them. Perhaps that might be the situation for that ‘kids’ parents.
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Post by SweetieBsMom on Nov 4, 2024 11:21:18 GMT
I like Jason Kelce but I think he should have kept walking. Kid was an ass and as someone said he fucked around and found out. He should be glad it was only his phone was smashed. As someone said, kids nowadays think they can say anything without consequences.....guess not this time. Take it as a life lesson.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Nov 4, 2024 12:01:16 GMT
I'm actually not sure how I feel about it. Under normal circumstances I would say that neither of them was in the right. However, the thing that complicates it for me is that the kid was using the phone in question to record him. I'm wondering how many celebs have had similar run ins with paparazzi and are not made a big deal. I assume Kelce will replace the phone but I don't begrudge him not wanting to be tape recorded. And let's face it, the kids words were abhorrent.
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Post by guzismom on Nov 4, 2024 12:43:54 GMT
Smashing the phone was a good alternative to smashing the kid in the face...
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Post by melanell on Nov 4, 2024 13:09:25 GMT
#1. I like mom 's way of summing it up. I wouldn't be angry with Kelce if her were my husband.* (more on that in #2.) I would be angry is that "kid" was my kid. #2. If Kelce was my husband, and he let his temper get away from him with any regularity while in public, then I would change my opinion in #1. (see more after list) #3. I can't condone Kelce's actions, yet I understand them, and I do appreciate that he didn't resort to violence against the "kid" for acting like an a$$hole. I hope in the future he'll try harder not to take the bait, though. For his own sake as well of that of his family. (see more after list) The "more" after the list: My DH is and was very mild-mannered at home, but he used to have a short fuse when out in public, and it took awhile for me to get him to really see what I was saying when I would ask him to settle himself down in those situations. You know if someone pulled a d!ck move while driving, he'd need to yell at them. Some guy cuts in line at a store, DH had to say something, and then both guys are yelling at one another. It wasn't cool. PLUS, it was worrying, because you never know when the person you're having the altercation with might be a psycho. And so I laid it out. I said look, you yell at any random driver, you're possibly putting yourself in danger, which ticks me off, but that's ultimately on you. BUT now you're also possibly putting ME in danger, and if you're okay with that, then we have an issue. And he did change, chill out, and over time, those altercations completely stopped. So that's what I'm referring to with Kelce. For his sake and the sake of anyone with him, I hope he can learn to ignore it when people come at him like that. (Unless they are trying to be physical, of course. Self defense is a whole other subject.) (ETA: I read that the kid shoved him after all of this. I have no idea how likely it was that the kids could take Kelce on, but he still had no right putting his hands on a another person.)
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Post by sabrinae on Nov 4, 2024 13:09:26 GMT
The kid also shoved Kelce in the back causing him to fall. The kid is lucky Kelce didn’t punch him in the face. They could both technically be charged but I think the “kid” got the least of what he deserved.
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Post by cakediva on Nov 4, 2024 13:15:57 GMT
This wasn't just a "one and done" utterance from the "kid" - he was following Kelce around and baiting him non-stop. And filming to get a reaction the whole time.
Kelce is a beast - it was his job to take down guys on the football field. Baiting him and chirping him non-stop? He's lucky his phone is all that got smashed.
I agree - he FOFO.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Nov 4, 2024 13:16:31 GMT
The kid also shoved Kelce in the back causing him to fall. This changes my answer. I did not realize the kid got physical with him.
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Post by melanell on Nov 4, 2024 13:19:21 GMT
As for the idea of dragging the kids' parents into this? I'm really discouraged with the dox and shame culture that exists today. I don't know anything more about this situation than what I've read here, but what I've read here in no way indicates that the parent(s) did anything wrong.
I know families where the majority of kids are all great, happy, decent, successful adults or young adults---and then there's the one kid who doesn't fit into that description. They are the one with one issue after another, one bad choice after another. And the parents are standing there saying "How did this happen??" And all of the other siblings are standing there saying "How did this happen?"
Furthermore, for as crappy as this guy's actions were, I'm willing to still hope that at some point in the future, he might see those actions as awful, too. I'm tired of the idea that if someone does something wrong they can never have a chance to be better later. But nope, the internet today hears a story, and decides we have to ruin the lives of as many people as possible, all under the guise of justice. Because that's what doxing and shaming does--it ruins lives. People get harassed. People get death threats. People lose jobs. And people, fairly or not, have their names associated with some instance forever since the internet will keep spitting that story back up every so often, as it tends to do with all content.
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Post by Linda on Nov 4, 2024 14:11:25 GMT
first off - how old is the "kid"? Sounds like he's a college student/young adult not a child. If we're talking a literal kid then my answer changes. I don't think either handled it well but the majority of the fault lies with phone guy not Kelce. Play stupid games win stupid prizes and all that. He's lucky all that happened was a broken phone - do that to the wrong person in today's America and you'll get shot. I'm with mom and also with melanell - that my thoughts if it were my husband would probably vary depending on whether this was a one-off or a pattern
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Post by MissBianca on Nov 4, 2024 14:24:25 GMT
Both were stupid but at some point people that bait celebrities need to be held accountable. Now at age 20, 40, 70, I don’t care, My kid said something like that I’d have spiked his phone and punched him in the face myself. And then made them film a public apology.
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Nov 4, 2024 15:57:43 GMT
The kid also shoved Kelce in the back causing him to fall. I didn't know about the young man shoving Mr Kelce. I'm glad the video and story about what happened went viral and has become public knowledge. In addition to every employer knowing this young mans beliefs and opinions, they also need to be aware of his physically aggressive behavior. I hope every woman who he gets involved is informed about his character and behavior. This young man intentionally verbally bullied and then shoved a strong (former) football player, he won't probably won't hesitate to bully, be aggressive or physically abusive to a woman or anyone else for that matter. That type of behavior usually gets worse, not better....as time goes on.
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Post by peamused on Nov 4, 2024 16:06:19 GMT
Kelce needs to learn some self control. The kid was baiting him but trashing the kid’s phone wasn’t the way to handle the situation. If he wants to keep his job with ESPN he needs to learn to control his temper, he’s not on a football field anymore. That kid also needs to learn self control. What kind of person says those kinds of things to another human out loud?
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Post by workingclassdog on Nov 4, 2024 16:58:05 GMT
I totally get Kelce getting angry with that ADULT.. not young man, not kid. He is an adult. If he had committed murder, he would be considered an adult. Not a young man or a kid.
Anyways, he pushed Kelce and also the expletive language. How long did this go on for? I mean, enough is enough at some point. If this person was following him and not leaving him alone for a long period of time, he's lucky that is all Kelce did. Even if it was just a quick moment..maybe Kelce got angry to fast? But yeah, this adult was put in his place and I don't blame Kelce for it.
I did hear that Kelce said some expletive language back to him and I don't condone that.
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Post by Rhondito on Nov 4, 2024 17:28:58 GMT
We have more than enough anger in this country. Kelce should have kept walking. We have more than enough people acting like assholes and getting away with it. Why should someone be able to follow Kelce around and yell slurs about his brother & Taylor? That's unacceptable. Just because he's a person in the spotlight doesn't mean he has to put up with people harassing him or his family.
If the kid doesn't like the outcome, then he shouldn't have poked the bear. That's what needs to stop in this country.
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Post by mom on Nov 4, 2024 17:47:46 GMT
We have more than enough anger in this country. Kelce should have kept walking. We have more than enough people acting like assholes and getting away with it. Why should someone be able to follow Kelce around and yell slurs about his brother & Taylor? That's unacceptable. Just because he's a person in the spotlight doesn't mean he has to put up with people harassing him or his family.
If the kid doesn't like the outcome, then he shouldn't have poked the bear. That's what needs to stop in this country.
Amen!
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