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Post by jeremysgirl on Nov 4, 2024 23:54:57 GMT
Almost five years ago I began having hot flashes. They weren't terrible or frequent so I didn't require any treatment. They have dwindled down to almost nothing the past 5 months. I do feel like my general internal temp has increased by like 10 degrees though. And I was always cold tolerant so now I really don't tolerate heat well. But not a hot flash. At first when I noticed they disappeared I chalked it up to increased soy intake.
Around that same time my period got more erratic. Like coming 5 days early or 3 days late. Something like that. But they always lasted 5 days and nothing else changed about them. I have only had two periods since June. And I'm now late by two months today.
I expected my hormones to go haywire and my mental health to be in the toilet. But I've been stable. Other than two brief rounds of steroids where I felt quite mixed up, I've been calmer than I have in many years.
And now as Fitbit is telling me again that my period is predicted to start today, I'm like, it's been 2 months, is it coming? Because two periods in five months feels like something is slowing down.
Is this normal? Am I getting close to the end and it's just slowing down? Should I be seeking some kind of gyn care because I'm not normal? I guess I really expected this to be a wild ride. And other than some hot flashes which are few and far between now, I've got nothing going on. And I don't know if it means I'm close to the end or if it means things haven't even really revved up yet.
I need pea wisdom.
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Post by Zee on Nov 4, 2024 23:58:50 GMT
I'm going to write a book about it all. It's something no one ever talked about when I was growing up. They still don't.
I only have hot flashes and mood swings to go by, since I had a hysterectomy at 39.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Nov 5, 2024 0:06:36 GMT
I'm going to write a book about it all. It's something no one ever talked about when I was growing up. They still don't. I only have hot flashes and mood swings to go by, since I had a hysterectomy at 39. People seem to be talking more about it recently but always from the standpoint of could this be a symptom kind of thing. And I've got nothing at this point to complain about. And because people have been making much more noise about it I feel like maybe I'm not even in the thick of it yet and something else is going on kwim?
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Post by Zee on Nov 5, 2024 0:09:38 GMT
I've been mulling over my book idea since finishing reading On All Fours. Or maybe it's just All Fours. Anyway, I have a lot to say about it and the topic seems wide open. I want to write The Judy Blume menopause book.
Are You There God, It's Me Kelly Which fits since almost everyone with this name was born in the 60s/70s and we could all use this.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Nov 5, 2024 0:11:46 GMT
Haha Zee I'll buy it because I need to know if I'm normal. And I'm a Becki we were all born in the 60s and 70s too.
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Post by quinlove on Nov 5, 2024 0:17:07 GMT
Mine was relatively easy. At 33 I had a partial hysterectomy, leaving ovaries. Which was probably unnecessary, but it seemed like a good idea at the time. My last baby was 9 lbs 15 oz. Normal birth. So I did need bladder work in addition.
Started menopause at 51, doctor said I was right on time. Hot flashes were my only complaint. I took no hormones or meds. It lasted about 2 years. Symptoms getting better second year.
My oldest dd is 52 and started. She’s had no hysterectomy. She said she couldn’t handle it and is taking some sort of hormone therapy that she says is working. Heaven help us when her sister goes through this.
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Post by Linda on Nov 5, 2024 0:17:11 GMT
I'm a couple of years post-menopausal now - there were some hot flashes but more that I run much warmer than I used to. Night sweats were more of a thing for me in the 5 or so years prior - those are mostly gone now. Mood wise - I don't feel like I had much of an issue.
Period wise? I went from super irregular (I had PCOS) to fairly clockwork in my early 40s - then they started getting closer together (20-21 days apart) with the occasional skipped month. The last few years everything got heavier and more crampy (and I became very anemic). The last two -ish years I went 5 months and had a fairly normal period and then 10 months and spotting for a day or so and then finally the full 12months to consider myself done. My last period (the spotting) was July 2021 - I turned 52 in August 2022 (July 2022 being my 12months period free date).
I think we mostly hear about the people who really struggle with peri-menopause and menopause and not so much about the people who don't really have a lot of symptoms.
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Post by scrappinmama on Nov 5, 2024 0:18:50 GMT
I talk about it at work. Some of my co-workers are younger than me and I want them to hear about it. I want to share what I learned. I wish older women before me felt safe enough to share. But they were gaslit by doctors and were told to suck it up. I do not want the younger generation to feel that way. My periods have been irregular for the past year. The hot flashes were awful. I felt awful. At my annual checkup my doctor said "you don't have to suffer" and prescribed HRT for me. She ran bloodwork and said I was in menopause, even though I was experiencing an occasional period. So I started HRT and OMG I felt so much better! But it has made my periods even more irregular. I went back to the doctor because I was worried and she said it's not unusual to experience light spotting in the first 6 months of starting HRT. Well just like she said, the spotting has finally stopped. So remember that you don't have to suffer. Talk to your doctor. Remember you aren't crazy. This is a normal part of life and no one should shame you for it. Hang in there! Wanted to add that today my 38 year old co-worker confided in me that she was worried she might be perimenopausal. She came to me because I'm always open about my experiences. So the more we talk about it openly, the more it helps other women!
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Post by quinmm14 on Nov 5, 2024 0:19:43 GMT
Haha Zee I'll buy it because I need to know if I'm normal. And I'm a Becki we were all born in the 60s and 70s too. Normal and menopause don't belong in the same sentence, lol. I don't think you're not normal; I think you can skip several months, think this is IT, and then boom...another period when you think you're finally free. I really only had horrible hot flashes, like drenched in sweat, have to change the sheets sweaty, but that was the only symptom that made a lasting impression. I was really young when I went through it, like early thirties, but I remember freezing everyone in my family to death for several months.
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Post by Zee on Nov 5, 2024 0:20:29 GMT
I'm a couple of years post-menopausal now - there were some hot flashes but more that I run much warmer than I used to. Night sweats were more of a thing for me in the 5 or so years prior - those are mostly gone now. Mood wise - I don't feel like I had much of an issue. Period wise? I went from super irregular (I had PCOS) to fairly clockwork in my early 40s - then they started getting closer together (20-21 days apart) with the occasional skipped month. The last few years everything got heavier and more crampy (and I became very anemic). The last two -ish years I went 5 months and had a fairly normal period and then 10 months and spotting for a day or so and then finally the full 12months to consider myself done. My last period (the spotting) was July 2021 - I turned 52 in August 2022 (July 2022 being my 12months period free date). I think we mostly hear about the people who really struggle with peri-menopause and menopause and not so much about the people who don't really have a lot of symptoms. Well obviously those with no complaints won't complain or write a book. But those of us who have struggled mightily might feel better knowing how many women just don't say anything about it because they don't want to be seen as dried up withered crones. It's a real thing.
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Nov 5, 2024 0:23:42 GMT
I am in the menopause phase of life.
When I was in peri-menopause, random periods were normal for me. The time-frame and schedule was all over the place from frequent (every three weeks) to nothing for two or three(or more) months. Floods, crazy hemorrhaging, very little flow, no cramps, severe cramps, etc....it was a crazy experience. The flooding was the worst, because there was no rhyme or reason as to when it would happen (it always seem to be at the most inopportune time). At one point I was carrying an extra pair of panties and leggings in my purse and always had extra in my car.
My advice for those in the peri-menopause phase is >> sleep on a dark towel and keep extra panties and clothes in the car.....n case there is a sudden and unexpected flood.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Nov 5, 2024 0:23:46 GMT
I talk about it at work. Some of my co-workers are younger than me and I want them to hear about it. I want to share what I learned. I wish older women before me felt safe enough to share. But they were gaslit by doctors and were told to suck it up. I do not want the younger generation to feel that way. My periods have been irregular for the past year. The hot flashes were awful. I felt awful. At my annual checkup my doctor said "you don't have to suffer" and prescribed HRT for me. She ran bloodwork and said I was in menopause, even though I was experiencing an occasional period. So I started HRT and OMG I felt so much better! But it has made my periods even more irregular. I went back to the doctor because I was worried and she said it's not unusual to experience light spotting in the first 6 months of starting HRT. Well just like she said, the spotting has finally stopped. So remember that you don't have to suffer. Talk to your doctor. Remember you aren't crazy. This is a normal part of life and no one should shame you for it. Hang in there! Wanted to add that today my 38 year old co-worker confided in me that she was worried she might be perimenopausal. She came to me because I'm always open about my experiences. So the more we talk about it openly, the more it helps other women! I'm not suffering. That's the whole point. I have been sitting here waiting to suffer. And besides some hot flashes that have mostly gone away now, I have no symptoms. I'm 49. I'm wondering if suffering is coming or if because I've had two periods in five months, this might be coming to an end.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Nov 5, 2024 0:25:22 GMT
Thank you Linda I just wanted some wisdom from people who are just cruising through with incredibly minor bumps. I was waiting for the sky to fall. And I am wondering if it's coming.
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Post by quinlove on Nov 5, 2024 0:25:50 GMT
I do remember freezing, putting on my warm fleece pj bottoms - putting on my warm fleece pj top. Immediately burning up, taking off my warm fleece pj top - taking off my warm fleece pg bottoms. One continuous movement.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Nov 5, 2024 0:32:29 GMT
I'm a couple of years post-menopausal now - there were some hot flashes but more that I run much warmer than I used to. Night sweats were more of a thing for me in the 5 or so years prior - those are mostly gone now. Mood wise - I don't feel like I had much of an issue. Period wise? I went from super irregular (I had PCOS) to fairly clockwork in my early 40s - then they started getting closer together (20-21 days apart) with the occasional skipped month. The last few years everything got heavier and more crampy (and I became very anemic). The last two -ish years I went 5 months and had a fairly normal period and then 10 months and spotting for a day or so and then finally the full 12months to consider myself done. My last period (the spotting) was July 2021 - I turned 52 in August 2022 (July 2022 being my 12months period free date). I think we mostly hear about the people who really struggle with peri-menopause and menopause and not so much about the people who don't really have a lot of symptoms. Well obviously those with no complaints won't complain or write a book. But those of us who have struggled mightily might feel better knowing how many women just don't say anything about it because they don't want to be seen as dried up withered crones. It's a real thing. I believe it. I don't know what to think actually. I'm sensitive to those who are struggling. I keep thinking it just hasn't come for me yet. But this going long stretches between otherwise normal periods seems like why is this happening. I clearly don't know what is normal and what isn't.
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Post by mimima on Nov 5, 2024 0:34:29 GMT
I'm a couple of years past my last period, and I didn't have a terrible time with wacky cycles before.
But, good gravy, the hot flashes. Multiple times a day. Every day. I'm ready for this to end.
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Post by milocat on Nov 5, 2024 0:38:17 GMT
Are you sure you aren't having other symptoms? Frozen shoulder, tinnitus dry eye, vaginal dryness, leakage or incontinence, thinning hair, heart palpitations, UTIs, dental problems, headaches, low libido, anxiety*, depression*, irritability or any of the other symptoms.
My periods are getting short between them. They have always been light but now they are very light. I have had hormonal migraines for years. I have always been cold and now I'm hot, so hot. It's not hot flashes it's just hot and sweaty. I have breast tenderness sometimes and heart palpitations. I have anxiety in the form of claustrophobia.
I'm on progesterone and am fighting to get on estrogen too. My migraines have decreased. I want to get in HRT and stay on it for the symptoms but also for the bone, heart and brain health benefits.
Makes me so mad for the generation before me, my mom's age, that have been denied HRT because of the world health organizations false and overblown fears they have created over HRT. That doctors now still don't have the message that HRT is safe.
*I known you'd be in tune with those changes @jermeysgirl
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Post by Elsabelle on Nov 5, 2024 0:39:49 GMT
The perimenopause and menopause experience make us all wonder if we're normal. And how long it will last. I don't have hot flashes - just night sweats occasionally. My friend who recently realized she has entered the octagon perimenopause told me her mother is still getting hot flashes well into her 60s. All we can tell you, OP, is that we don't know how long it will last. For some women it's like a dud firework. It gets lit and sizzles a bit as it burns down and then no big boom. It just kind of dies out. For other women it's a roller coaster that lasts years and years. I can't complain much since I started HRT. I do have some weird symptoms but I had a hysterectomy at 38 so no period to help me gauge anything.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Nov 5, 2024 0:46:02 GMT
milocat I've been struggling with my bladder for ten years. I have always thought that I would eventually need surgery on it. And my hair has been thin since I was diagnosed with PCOS years ago. I haven't noticed any changes. The rest of the stuff doesn't apply. I am seriously having the best mental health in the past year and a half, I've had in ten years. The four months I ate plant based were even smoother. I thought the hot flashes were stopping because of the plant based eating. The increase in soy. I just don't know what to make of it. You think that it just hasn't happened yet?
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Post by milocat on Nov 5, 2024 0:56:13 GMT
jeremysgirl that's great that your mental health is in such a great place. Talk to your doctor about HRT, sometimes called BHRT or MHT - bioidentical hormone therapy or menopause hormone therapy. If you have a uterus you have to go on progesterone, but there are advantages to being on it even if you don't have a uterus. Progesterone is given as a capsule. You want progesterone not progestine, which is common in things like. Estrogen can be given as a patch or a cream, it can also be given vaginally. You can be on both vaginal and systemic estrogen. Perimenopause is 5-10 years before menopause. The average age of menopause is 51. But can be 45-55. So you can have perimenopause symptoms as young as 35. Menopauseis the 1 day 365 days after your last period. Post menopause is the rest of your life. So with your symptoms you definitely are in perimenopause. All that can definitely be lumped into the term menopause. It's so sad it's not talked about and we don't even understand all these symptoms, phases, treatments. Finally there seems to be talk starting about it. I've done so much reading on this the past couple years.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Nov 5, 2024 1:02:25 GMT
I really don't want any hormone replacement milocat as long as I am feeling mentally well. In my youth I could not take hormonal birth control not even progesterone only BC because it upsets my bipolar so much. Female hormones upset my mental illness more than you can imagine. I am absolutely the worst pregnant and nursing woman you'd ever want to be around, like paranoid and delusional. If my mental health falls off, I'll consider it. But that's my absolute #1 priority.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Nov 5, 2024 1:16:41 GMT
I really don't want any hormone replacement milocat as long as I am feeling mentally well. In my youth I could not take hormonal birth control not even progesterone only BC because it upsets my bipolar so much. Female hormones upset my mental illness more than you can imagine. I am absolutely the worst pregnant and nursing woman you'd ever want to be around, like paranoid and delusional. If my mental health falls off, I'll consider it. But that's my absolute #1 priority. I get no mental health symptoms from estrogen. It doesn’t help hot flashes but it fixed the other discomfort I was experiencing. Things in the lady parts are loving the hormones. I hated the pill and it made me suicidal but estrogen is just awesome.
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Post by librarylady on Nov 5, 2024 1:23:11 GMT
I had my tubes tied at age 34 and afterwards had irregular periods. Prior to that I had functioned like clockwork. I went through menopause at 40, with no symptoms. When that happened I realize that those irregular periods were perimenopause.
Ask your doctor find out what your FSH hormone level is. That will tell you if you are in menopause.
It is possible that you are into menopause.
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Post by littlemama on Nov 5, 2024 1:25:53 GMT
I had hot flashes for a few years, then my periods became erratic. And then, they just...stopped. The exact date the world shut down for Covid was the last period I had.
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Post by malibou on Nov 5, 2024 1:29:10 GMT
The perimenopause and menopause experience make us all wonder if we're normal. And how long it will last. I don't have hot flashes - just night sweats occasionally. My friend who recently realized she has entered the octagon perimenopause told me her mother is still getting hot flashes well into her 60s. All we can tell you, OP, is that we don't know how long it will last. For some women it's like a dud firework. It gets lit and sizzles a bit as it burns down and then no big boom. It just kind of dies out. For other women it's a roller coaster that lasts years and years. I can't complain much since I started HRT. I do have some weird symptoms but I had a hysterectomy at 38 so no period to help me gauge anything. This is an excellent description of the things menopause can bring. Everybody is quite different in their experience. In my case, I had been on birth control since I was 12 due to a hideous menstrual cycle that had started on my 11th Birthday until we decided to have a baby a couple of months before I turned 35, I had 4 pregnancies in 9 months with the last pregnancy resulting in ds being born, when I was 36. After the first pregnancy, I never had another menstrual cycle. Right as I turned 38, the Dr said I was menopausal. I was already having a lot of hot flashes. Hot being the operative word. I swear there were times I feared I might spontaneously combust. Other than loads of hot flashes, many a day, nothing else really changed, but I was dealing with a baby and a cancer diagnosis, so who knows where my head was. The hot flashes continued full steam ahead for 16 years, and then I noticed I was tapering off quickly. Now I might get one if I'm rushing about too much. Ever since the first pregnancy, my hands have been warm. Just before ds was born they had gotten so warm that people squirmed when I touched them because they were so crazy hot by the end. They have settled down to just warm, pretty much all of the time. When it is chilly out, everyone wants to hold hands with me 🤗 My feet on the other hand, errr foot 😉 are always cold, and I'm in SoCal.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Nov 5, 2024 1:34:57 GMT
I really don't want any hormone replacement milocat as long as I am feeling mentally well. In my youth I could not take hormonal birth control not even progesterone only BC because it upsets my bipolar so much. Female hormones upset my mental illness more than you can imagine. I am absolutely the worst pregnant and nursing woman you'd ever want to be around, like paranoid and delusional. If my mental health falls off, I'll consider it. But that's my absolute #1 priority. I get no mental health symptoms from estrogen. It doesn’t help hot flashes but it fixed the other discomfort I was experiencing. Things in the lady parts are loving the hormones. I hated the pill and it made me suicidal but estrogen is just awesome. Well that is good to know.
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Post by AussieMeg on Nov 5, 2024 1:44:20 GMT
The thing is, there is no normal with menopause - it differs so much from one person to another!
I've been lucky in that I haven't really had many symptoms. Between the ages of 50 - 52ish, my periods were regular while they were happening, but then they would stop for a few months. Then they would start up again and be regular, and then they would stop for a few months. I only got hot flushes during the times that I was not getting a period. Weird. Now that I am 57, and haven't had a period in years, I'm not really having any symptoms. The only thing I have noticed is that I don't get as cold at night as I once did.
Some of my friends had really bad symptoms, mainly terrible hot flushes. A couple have gone on HRT.
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Post by seaexplore on Nov 5, 2024 1:47:07 GMT
Mine was pretty uneventful. I'm 50 now. My last kid was born at 42- I was racing the clock- my mom was into post-menopause at 43! My periods spaced out more and more over a few years starting at 44, the didn't get worse, just seemed to fade into the sunset. My last period was June something 2022, I was 48. My whole life I've had anxiety. As my hormones dwindled, I had less and less. I attributed it to therapy that I did in 2022 but I'm thinking it was my hormones leaving my body. ZERO regrets on that one!
Now, the hot flashes and night sweats can go straight to hell and never come back! Those are legit my only complaint. I was waking up regularly with night sweats so I was put on clonidine. I did that for a few years (46ish to 48ish) and it quit working so I tried to just ride it out. It wasn't fun but I sucked it up for 2 years not wanting to go on HRT due to my mom's breast cancer (which she recovered from but still...). Right after my 50th birthday, my GYN and I had a chat and she told me to try upping my soy and start on evening primrose oil. Soy added to my anxiety so that was a no go. The evening primrose oil minimally helped. I tried both for 2 months and told her I needed something else. She suggested amberen or estroven. I started estroven the beginning of September this year, it's ok. I have less hot flashes during the day and seem to only have night sweats when I first get in bed (going from cold to warm) and when I wake up in the morning. I think I wake up right as it's happening most of the time. I'll finish out this round of estroven and talk to my gyn again about maybe doing HRT. There are good benefits of it so it's not really an issue for me like it was. I for sure still get times when I get toasty and need to remove a layer but I'm not dripping in sweat like I was. At night, I throw off the blankets and cool off and then snuggle back in and go back to sleep. (I'm having a heat surge right now actually- LOL)
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Post by milocat on Nov 5, 2024 1:48:17 GMT
I really don't want any hormone replacement milocat as long as I am feeling mentally well. In my youth I could not take hormonal birth control not even progesterone only BC because it upsets my bipolar so much. Female hormones upset my mental illness more than you can imagine. I am absolutely the worst pregnant and nursing woman you'd ever want to be around, like paranoid and delusional. If my mental health falls off, I'll consider it. But that's my absolute #1 priority. I understand. Just to clarify though, birthd control (pills and Mirena IUD) is progestin not progesterone. And HRT is a lower does of hormones than BC. Not sure how much of a difference that would make for your mental health. You mentioned bladder issues you could use vaginal estrogen, they say it stays localized. Of course do you own research and talk with your own doctor. These are just some things I've learnt from researching, not saying it's right for you and your underlying issues.
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Post by Linda on Nov 5, 2024 1:50:48 GMT
Well obviously those with no complaints won't complain or write a book. But those of us who have struggled mightily might feel better knowing how many women just don't say anything about it because they don't want to be seen as dried up withered crones. It's a real thing. I was in NO way implying that there aren't women who struggle with perimenopause/menopause - I know it's a real thing. BUT the OP was concerned about her lack of symptoms and I was addressing that. (((Hugs)))
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