Hope? Keep fighting? What messages are resonating with you?

nothing is helping right now. i need time to think and take care of myself. I feel defeated, a dinosaur. I feel like America is a Garbage Can and I'm in it.

I want to make a joke about my name and how you made this thread for me...

The thing is, I have found that more progress can be made through periods of intense suffering than when the world is just ticking along. Because people can no longer pretend the world is what they thought it was; and many people who didn't think their standard of living would change, find out how wrong they really were. WWII and the period before was so bad, the victors decided we weren't doing this anymore, and the peace and prosperity that followed was so great that people today forgot what suffering historically looks like. Regular folks who deliver healthy babies no longer fear they won't reach adulthood, the intense poverty of seniors, food insecurity for regular folks, etc. California passing Prop 8 changed the game for LGBTQ folks, almost overnight, compared to the progress of the previous 30-40 years.

We won't get to enjoy it, but there will be an "after" after this. The Renaissance happened, the last 80 years happened. I saw a lament on social media, "I only wish the moral arc wasn't so long."

I posted attorney, Ken White's blog post in another thread, but I'll put it here too.


www.popehat.com/p/and-yet-it-moves

I still feel like we are in limbo and will be until January. The past 3 months have been filled with anxiety and while we now have a more clear idea of what will happen it feels like I’m still waiting for the ax to fall. I do know all about the hardships most of our grandparents went through.WWII and the post war years. We were so fortunate we never thought things could change. Not just us here in the US but things are going to be very bleak everywhere. Time to buckle up and get ready for the ride.

I know this is crazy and giving me false up, but people on TT are starting to really ask about the vote, something isn't adding up. THey suspect Elon had somehting to do with it, and there will be an investigation.

Also, all the astrologers, mediums, psychics are still saying she was the winner, and that there was a great energy that woke a bunch of people up at 330 (myself included, and I am no medium), that there was some sort of energy. They say something will happen btwn nov 11-15, it has to be so catestrophic that even his side can't deny it.

Both those things are giving me huge false hope, but then I saw that Newsome and the gov from Illionois and the AG in New York (I cannot remember her name) are all making preparations, so all I can do is prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

I am handling this a little better than I thought I would. I am not going to watch the news anymore. I will check the weather and that is about it. I plan to read, exercise, and cook more. I am going to try to do something that helps my community and me - which means I think I am going to do more subbing in the schools where I have occasionally worked. There is a huge shortage and I am going to be a kind libtard out there helping kids and teachers. I view it as paid community service. I’m also going to try to look cuter than usual.

I retired last year and am living off my pension and investments combined with some sub jobs. My investments are in a great place right now and I am very concerned about how this could shake up my financial future.

I can’t stop thinking about selling my house in town and buying a condo in Puerto Vallarta.

not looking for any messages yet... I'm still vacillating between grief, disgust, and being incredibly p!ssed off and angry that the majority of VOTERS (not the majority of AMERICANS, but VOTERS- there's a difference) could be so very stupid, selfish, and short-sighted. 

(right around an election like this is NOT the time to try and wean off of an anti-depressant, for future reference.)

Nothing is resonating for me right now. Still feeling pretty anxious and stressed. I simply cannot get over the fact that a majority of gullible people voters (there, fixed it) in this country bought the Koolaid he was selling. Everybody is going to feel this on some level, but the most marginalized groups among us will take the brunt of it. I feel insulated just a tiny bit because of where I live, but I know my family will feel it too. My kid and her friends (especially those who are LGBTQ) are all pretty stressed by one or more aspects of what they have heard is coming and I honestly don’t know what to say.

100% this. Let's not normalize being fine with racism, homophobia and misogyny. Not for false promises of cheap groceries, not for anything. 

I am circling the wagons a bit. Focusing on protecting those who need protecting, including my family and our peace. I'm not letting Trump take my joy. I'm going to live my life. I'm going to continue to live my life with integrity. I will not be glued to the news for the next 4 years. I'm allowing myself the time to be angry right now. But after this, I'm going to spend my time doing things that bring joy. 


When I told my sons that Harris lost, I reminded them that even in the darkest times of WWII, there were people working hard for a better world. We're going to be the people who would have hid Anne Frank, not the people who would give her up to the Nazi party. Or in this case, the promise of cheaper groceries and gas.

I am a doer by nature, so even tho I am doing so gently, I am making lists and plans for things that need to be squared up in the next couple months. Making sure financial affairs are in order, prescriptions/doctors, supplements, stocking up on some things before tariffs, etc.

At the same time reckoning with my privilege, and how I can help those that need it.

Mostly just sticking close to my family and finding comfort in our shared beliefs. I also have been going over quotes and things I keep, like from Virginia Woolf and other texts that are comforting and inspiring. Thinking a lot about art, music, expression and how important those things have been through history, symbolism, etc.

I guess blocking out the noise and reflecting on what's inside helps.

I haven't listened to what you posted but my daughter and I have adopted the quiet, raging, building anger. We will be fighting and taking care of ourselves. We will be quiet but are waiting for the "I told you so" moments that will come up. She is ready for the confrontation though, that will happen when my mother decides to bring something up. My DD was pre-law and deals with coaches and college admin. She can go toe to toe with the best of them. She has her facts. She is ready for my mom to say just one thing. I know there should be respect for your elders but we both understand the no contact thing now. And are seeing it more clearly. And unfortunately, my mom is just enough of a narcissist to see that none of what comes down the pike will be on her. We will be the horrible children and grandchildren to treat her that way. But it is what it is. You voted how you voted.

Please take care of yourselves.

Would Vance not become President-elect then? I think we need to be careful about what we wish for. KWIM?!?

Exactly.  He is not any better.  

I’m nowhere near fight mode yet. I’m just trying to stay in the present to avoid the anxiety death spiral when I start thinking about how we may never regain our way of life, the only one we’ve ever known. And how T will dismantle and destroy all the good things about the USA, and the hard-won progress that’s been made over the years in diplomacy, human rights, health care and the environment to name a few.

I’m rereading Timothy Snyder’s excellent book, On Tyranny, particularly the part where he describes how to live under a totalitarian regime without rolling over into passivity and acceptance.

This is where I’m at too. I have a very rare lung cancer and I’m pretty sure it’s a matter of how soon vs when, I lose my healthcare and that’s it for me. I’m so sad for our American kids.