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Post by myshelly on Jan 13, 2015 22:11:48 GMT
I've been googling and still can't figure out what it's supposed to be a reference to?
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Post by LAM88 on Jan 13, 2015 22:14:14 GMT
I don't know what that line is from, so I don't get the humor. I personally don't think it's a great choice for school, because if you don't get the reference, it could definitely be taken wrong. This exactly |
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Post by LAM88 on Jan 13, 2015 22:17:28 GMT
I will check back and address my poor parenting skills at that time  That was funny! But I still want to know what the shirt means that you all find so humorous. |
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Post by christine58 on Jan 13, 2015 22:18:43 GMT
Hi all, I'm a long time lurker, but have rarely posted. But now I wonder if I'm wrong and perhaps I need to be set straight? Dd is 12 and in grade 7 (this public school is grades 7-12) and for Christmas I made her a t-shirt that says "Good Morning. I see the assassins have failed". She is a big reader, and some of her favorite youth series are this genre (sounds macabre, but they're age appropriate I promise). Personally, I think the t-shirt is funny. Her multi-media teacher questioned her about her t-shirt yesterday, asking her if she knew what it meant, if she thought it was appropriate for school, what did her other teachers say (nothing, and she proudly showed her home room teacher when they had a discussion about their favorite Xmas gift), etc. The teacher did not ask her to stop wearing it, but dd is asking me if she can still wear it. I said yes. Am I wrong? I work at the other high school in town, and to me, the students wearing t-shirts that say "@n@l sports", "So Juicy" and "Turn it up (with a picture of the middle finger upside down)" would be more concerning to me... I won't even get into the see-through tops or shorty-shorts... Big girl panties are pulled up, I'm ready. Does the teacher need to unclench, or am I too lax? And go... That shirt...nor the others you referenced would NOT be allowed in my school where I teach. I see you didn't answer anyone about where this comment came from...actually doesn't matter. But the definition of assassin is "a murderer of an important person in a surprise attack for political or religious reasons". Our students would be asked to either change or turn it inside out. It doesn't matter that you've not had any school violence in your little town. Let her wear it--just not to school. |
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Post by Pahina722 on Jan 13, 2015 22:20:56 GMT
I don't get the reference, if there even is one, and apparently neither does anyone else. That alone should suggest that the shirt isn't going to be taken well. But more importantly, the clear implication of the shirt is that the wearer had hoped that the reader would be dead/killed. How is that acceptable?
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Post by Megan on Jan 13, 2015 22:30:08 GMT
I've been googling and still can't figure out what it's supposed to be a reference to? Glad I'm not the only one who google'd and still couldn't figure it out! |
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Post by Mary_K on Jan 13, 2015 22:31:59 GMT
So - is the OP ever going to fill us in on what this is referencing?
Or maybe it's just - "I'm back at school, so obviously there was no killing in the last few days".
Mary K
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Post by elaine on Jan 13, 2015 22:38:23 GMT
I don't think it is a reference to anything literary, but simply a copy of commercially produced t-shirts with what some think is a funny (not) Internet quip.
I also don't think it is appropriate to wear to school.
I also have to say that it somewhat bothers me that someone would produce a t-shirt for one's child that she didn't understand. The only way one wouldn't understand the immediate connection between that saying and violence is if one didn't understand what an assassin is...
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Post by dancingqueen on Jan 13, 2015 22:38:59 GMT
It is a book series called 'rangers apprentice' by John Flanagan.
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Post by gar on Jan 13, 2015 22:39:27 GMT
I hope not getting the validation she expected does put her off as a new poster. She did update half way through the thread though.
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Post by elaine on Jan 13, 2015 22:45:39 GMT
It is a book series called 'rangers apprentice' by John Flanagan. Umm. I think that you may be the only one who think it refers to Rangers Apprentice. I don't think that anyone else does. It isn't a quote from the books. Simply because a book series has assassins as characters, doesn't make a quote about assassins connected to the books... |
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Post by dancingqueen on Jan 13, 2015 22:46:01 GMT
I hope not getting the validation she expected does put her off as a new poster. She did update half way through the thread though. No joke, I was lurking on two peas long before it migrated here. I knew how it could go, and I know the rules. I'm guessing nobody wants to see a pic, though? |
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Post by luckyexwife on Jan 13, 2015 22:47:34 GMT
I hope not getting the validation she expected does put her off as a new poster. She did update half way through the thread though. No joke, I was lurking on two peas long before it migrated here. I knew how it could go, and I know the rules. I'm guessing nobody wants to see a pic, though? Of course we want to see a picture! |
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Post by rickmer on Jan 13, 2015 22:52:32 GMT
i agree with this. DS asked to be an assassin for halloween. i said maybe but then spent some time actually thinking about it. i advised him, upon further reflection, it was not a suitable halloween costume. i said if he wanted to be a ninja, i would consider it but there is no way he was going to be "someone who kills people" as a halloween costume.
DD is in high school and i have seen some pretty saucy t-shirts re: sports ("i work mine to kick yours") and we discuss on a case-by-case basis. i get her get one for ball hockey that said on the back "don't let the ponytail fool you" but thought that was pretty tame.
and i don't get the reference, if there is one, either. but i hope OP comes back, never hurts to ask others opinions. maybe if we got the reference it would make more sense.
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Post by quiltz on Jan 13, 2015 22:57:36 GMT
This t-shirt would be deemed inappropriate by our local school board. There is a dress code that does stipulate the width of strap on tank tops, covering the belly button, length of shorts, hanging down of pants and words/pictures on clothing - applicable to both sexes.
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Post by SabrinaM on Jan 13, 2015 22:57:44 GMT
Extremely inappropriate.  |
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Post by alittleintrepid on Jan 13, 2015 23:01:52 GMT
No, I'm not putting you on, I promise. My husband was also surprised that the teacher said something, and he is VERY conservative. Seriously, I cannot state this enough. Over-the-top. I am surprised at the general consensus, tbh I was expecting validation lol. Maybe my sense of humor isn't as funny as I thought it was  I guess I am lucky in that school violence has never touched our area (I'm in Canada, a rather small city/town), and it is not something I even considered. Knock on wood. Its too bad, she was so excited about this shirt and even said it was her favorite Christmas gift. I will restrict the t-shirt's public appearances. I will respectfully disagree that other inappropriate t-shirts are irrelevant, though. To single out one thing and not others, why would she (or me, for that matter) have ever guessed that there is even a dress code? IYGWIM? Even after having it pointed out to me, I am not making the connection of this involving a school shooting, although the perception of violence is there. I guess it can be equated to making a bad joke at airport security - somewhere else it probably would be funny. I will adjust my thinking to a degree bearing in mind you're in Canada where school violence is virtually unheard of as it is in the UK. My answer was based on assuming you're in The USA. As far as being irrelevant, I meant that you cannot be responsible for others's choices, only your own/your DDs. There have been some fairly high profile incidents of school violence ( shootings as well as bullying) across Canada over the last decade although most are big city incidents (eg. Toronto, Montreal) and I noted that the OP says she is from a small town. We also commemorate December 6th in memory of women gunned down at the polytechnic university in Montreal 25 years ago (google the Montreal massacre if you want more info). There may be a slightly more conservative response than you would see in the UK and it is meant to be "zero tolerance" for violence. I'm not suggesting that the shirt is inciting violence....I think the teacher probably was just trying to get her to think critically and didn't get the reference as many of us well-read refupeas didn't either! |
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Post by SabrinaP on Jan 13, 2015 23:02:59 GMT
I think the fact that it is an obscure quote makes its content seem inappropriate.
I read it as . . . To the reader of the shirt sorry the killer didn't kill you. Not appropriate. Save for weekends and evenings.
The other shirts you referenced are also inappropriate, but that doesn't make your DDs shirt okay.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2015 23:07:32 GMT
This t-shirt would be deemed inappropriate by our local school board. There is a dress code that does stipulate the width of strap on tank tops, covering the belly button, length of shorts, hanging down of pants and words/pictures on clothing - applicable to both sexes.
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Post by SockMonkey on Jan 13, 2015 23:08:59 GMT
Yeah, wearing anything that references murdering people to school is kind of in poor taste. Your kid wasn't asked to stop wearing it. Her teacher asking her questions about it was a good thing. Clearly it created some conversation and thoughtfulness for your daughter. That's a good thing.
I don't find the shirt offensive, but it's one of those things I'd never wear to school (or allow my child to wear to school). It's a kicking around the house kind of shirt.
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Post by ferblover on Jan 13, 2015 23:12:28 GMT
I am leaning towards the side of not at school. With that said I applaud your DD teacher. Instead of reacting, the teacher had a conversation with your DD about it-Bravo!
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Post by dancingqueen on Jan 13, 2015 23:13:23 GMT
It is a book series called 'rangers apprentice' by John Flanagan. Umm. I think that you may be the only one who think it refers to Rangers Apprentice. I don't think that anyone else does. It isn't a quote from the books. Simply because a book series has assassins as characters, doesn't make a quote about assassins connected to the books... I admit I only read the first book in the series and then turned dd loose. It is her favorite series (voracious reader) and she quotes it all the time, to the point of annoyance lol. I do not know which book it's from, but the humour does seem to match a couple of the main characters... |
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Post by dancingqueen on Jan 13, 2015 23:18:46 GMT
No joke, I was lurking on two peas long before it migrated here. I knew how it could go, and I know the rules. I'm guessing nobody wants to see a pic, though? Of course we want to see a picture! I should have quit while I was ahead, I don't know how to post a pic lol. |
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Post by gsquaredmom on Jan 13, 2015 23:24:43 GMT
Not appropriate for school.
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Post by myshelly on Jan 13, 2015 23:32:26 GMT
But that doesn't mean it's the original source of the quote or reference. |
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Post by dancingqueen on Jan 13, 2015 23:34:48 GMT
Yeah, wearing anything that references murdering people to school is kind of in poor taste. Your kid wasn't asked to stop wearing it. Her teacher asking her questions about it was a good thing. Clearly it created some conversation and thoughtfulness for your daughter. That's a good thing. I don't find the shirt offensive, but it's one of those things I'd never wear to school (or allow my child to wear to school). It's a kicking around the house kind of shirt. What I really don't want is for her to get called down to the principal's office or asked (publicly) to remove it. This would humiliate her, and she can be sensitive. I can see that this is a possibility, though, so we'll keep it to her outside school activities. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2015 23:36:48 GMT
I read a comment about school uniforms... I begged, tried to convince with logic, showed money savings and fund raising opportunities with uniforms to our Montessori school only to be told it takes away a child's individuality. (The other Montessori school in town has a uniform and their kids don't have individuality crises. )
I think our public school would send the child home to change. No negotiation. Or anything. It would be deemed not appropriate for school and to go home and change.
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Post by theshyone on Jan 13, 2015 23:38:32 GMT
I won't even give you a pass on being Canadian.
Wearing a shirt that says the assassin failed shortly after a terrorist was a door away from Harper, not appropriate.
Canada has had significant school violence in big cities and small towns, Taber, poly-tec just to name a few.
Did the teacher make her remove it? Wear it inside out? If she didn't then she doesn't need to unclench. As you put it.
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Post by elaine on Jan 13, 2015 23:39:36 GMT
Umm. I think that you may be the only one who think it refers to Rangers Apprentice. I don't think that anyone else does. It isn't a quote from the books. Simply because a book series has assassins as characters, doesn't make a quote about assassins connected to the books... I admit I only read the first book in the series and then turned dd loose. It is her favorite series (voracious reader) and she quotes it all the time, to the point of annoyance lol. I do not know which book it's from, but the humour does seem to match a couple of the main characters... I don't think it references the books, but can see how she may have seen the shirt or meme someplace and thought that it did. It appears fairly popular in the 20-something group, none of whom reference the youth fiction series. I think that your daughter is mistaken about the reference, but even if it did refer to the book, it is about someone killing others, which isn't what I'd send my kids to school in. |
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