luvnlifelady
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Post by luvnlifelady on Feb 1, 2015 21:19:55 GMT
I wouldn't mind but I understand your concern. My SIL uses nice paper plates for Thanksgiving and it all comes together beautifully. However, if you are using the cheap stuff, then I would feel awkward being associated with it if I were you.
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Post by threegirls on Feb 1, 2015 21:21:54 GMT
I would not bill an event as formal while using paper plates and plastic utensils. Check with the caterer, they might have the option to rent plates/utensils. I hate eating with plastic forks. I always end up breaking them!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 21:22:49 GMT
They are factoring a lot of people attending to cover the cost of the comedian and caterer, that's why they're keeping the price per plate so low. I hope it doesn't backfire on them. The caterer is friends with many in the church and had volunteered to do the meal for less. But if we required dinnerware to be washed, she charges extra. There was a group of people willing to wash the plates and cutlery. I honestly feel like they bit off more than they can chew. They didn't first go check with the venue (our church) to see if they had enough supplies to cover such a big event. Heck we don't even have enough tablecloths, they will either need to buy more or rent them. Or... You never know, we might just end up with plastic tablecloths. I am learning that my idea of formal and elegant is very different than others.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 21:24:54 GMT
Yes I care. If I am paying for a formal dinner, there had better be actual dishes and flatware involved.
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Post by mallie on Feb 1, 2015 21:26:24 GMT
How much is your church charging and what is the food? Personally, I wouldn't want that given how cheaply you can get plates/utensils etc They're charging $60 per couple. They need a few grand to pay for the comedian and then double that for the food. They should have charge more like $70 and then had an extra $10 person to for this sort of issue. They didn't factor any extra expenses. Although I was given a few hundred dollars for decor, not nearly enough but I'll Diy what I can and use as many fresh roses as the budget allows. While I know $60 isn't a lot for a formal event, they are trying to keep it at cost only so price doesn't become an issue for many. The food I'm not quite sure on. I believe some sort of chicken breast, stuffed potatoes, roasted vegetables, and I believe broccoli with some sort of special cheese sauce. They told the caterer that it needed to be appropriate for a formal dinner. For $60/couple, I better not be eating off of a paper plate unless I know the bulk of it is going towards a fundraiser and I am not expected to dress up. In other words, paper plates and plastid forks is not a formal event. I would be very disappointed to go to what was billed as a formal Valentine's dinner and get cheapo paper plates and plastic forks. (My dh is even more of a stickler than I am about stuff like that. He'd be reallllly annoyed.) I can go to Fazoli's and get served on real plates with real flatware for $20/couple. So, no way would I find that acceptable. I honestly think that if you are billing an event as formal and charging that much money for a church dinner, you need to let people know what kind of service they'll be getting to avoid potential disappointment and complaints.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 21:30:14 GMT
I wouldn't mind but I understand your concern. My SIL uses nice paper plates for Thanksgiving and it all comes together beautifully. However, if you are using the cheap stuff, then I would feel awkward being associated with it if I were you. I don't mind using paper plates for less formal occasions. The church hosts a huge thanksgiving dinner every year and use paper, it doesn't bother because it's not a formal event. Baby showers, bbq's, potlucks, etc are all kept casual and we use paper plates. I still prefer real dinnerware, but I can totally understand why paper is used. For me, if the event is formal enough that it requires a little extra care in what you're wearing, I'm expecting real dinnerware.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 21:31:32 GMT
Not good
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Post by YooHoot on Feb 1, 2015 21:35:03 GMT
Formal: proper dinnerware Picnic: paper plates
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 21:38:58 GMT
They're charging $60 per couple. They need a few grand to pay for the comedian and then double that for the food. They should have charge more like $70 and then had an extra $10 person to for this sort of issue. They didn't factor any extra expenses. Although I was given a few hundred dollars for decor, not nearly enough but I'll Diy what I can and use as many fresh roses as the budget allows. While I know $60 isn't a lot for a formal event, they are trying to keep it at cost only so price doesn't become an issue for many. The food I'm not quite sure on. I believe some sort of chicken breast, stuffed potatoes, roasted vegetables, and I believe broccoli with some sort of special cheese sauce. They told the caterer that it needed to be appropriate for a formal dinner. For $60/couple, I better not be eating off of a paper plate unless I know the bulk of it is going towards a fundraiser and I am not expected to dress up. In other words, paper plates and plastid forks is not a formal event. I would be very disappointed to go to what was billed as a formal Valentine's dinner and get cheapo paper plates and plastic forks. (My dh is even more of a stickler than I am about stuff like that. He'd be reallllly annoyed.) I can go to Fazoli's and get served on real plates with real flatware for $20/couple. So, no way would I find that acceptable. I honestly think that if you are billing an event as formal and charging that much money for a church dinner, you need to let people know what kind of service they'll be getting to avoid potential disappointment and complaints. This is my concern too, I agree with everything you said. But I'm not in charge of the event, only the decorating. I told one of the ladies in charge exactly what you said, but they planned the budget so tightly, they apparently don't have a lot of wiggle room. One of the committee members came up to me today to get my opinion on the paper plate they had chosen. I smiled and told her I'm sorry but there is no paper plate that will pass my inspection, I'll do my best to decorate with what I have but I don't care for paper plates at a formal event. Their hands are tied now because they didn't think it through completely. And I learned to ask more questions before I agree to something.
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Post by paigepea on Feb 1, 2015 21:42:31 GMT
I think that formal can sometimes mean different things to different people. I don't think that $30 / person sounds so formal. I don't think paper plates are an issue, but I agree that the nicer ones from Costco are really worth it.
If the church needs 50 cheap plates to do China for everyone, is probably be pushing for that.
Win win situation - all are ok options.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 21:47:51 GMT
Forma = tuxedos, ballgowns.
Church attire is not formal to start with. $30 a plate is not a "formal" dinner price point either. Held in a church ... lowers the "formal" aspects as well. Assuming the majority of those buying tickets will be members of the church they know good and well whether to expect "real" dishes or disposable. Every church I've been in has plenty of people willing to clean-up prior to the event but precious one or two who actually will after the event. Being it is a church related event with unpaid kitchen staff I'd expect disposable.
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Post by librarylady on Feb 1, 2015 21:50:31 GMT
Our church is doing a Valentine's dinner as a fundraiser for the youth mission trip. The teenagers will serve as the wait staff. We will have real plates and silverware. Kids will do the clean up also. A gourmet cooking club will prepare the food, donating their time but will be reimbursed for the food. $30/person. We encourage singles to come, as a day of feeling love is not just for couples. This is the 4th year for the event.
I would be OK with paper/plastic plates, but NOT for plastic utensils. I hate, hate, hate using plastic utensils.
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Post by Miss Lerins Momma on Feb 1, 2015 21:52:55 GMT
I agree, if the food is good I don't care what it's served on!
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Post by powderhorngreen on Feb 1, 2015 21:58:32 GMT
Just one word - No. You can rent service pretty inexpensively. Also, can you "borrow" from a local restaurant whose owners/principals are members of the church? Do you have members that would donate use of their good dishes for the event. Even a mishmash of real service pieces would be better.
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Post by txdancermom on Feb 1, 2015 22:08:49 GMT
Formal and paper plates do not belong together. If it is being catered, they need to go the extra step and get real plates and flatware. The caterer can probably direct you to a company that will deliver and pickup the dishes if they can't do it for you.
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Post by annabella on Feb 1, 2015 22:11:01 GMT
Since it's at a church, I don't expect them to have a stockpile of real plates so I would just have them buy nice looking plastic plates.
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Post by workingclassdog on Feb 1, 2015 22:12:09 GMT
If I was in charge, personally I wouldn't use paper plates... but on the other hand if I was one of the attendees I wouldn't really care unless they were very cheap and flimsy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 22:13:04 GMT
Personally, the whole tone of your post is pretty judgmental to my ears. Did you offer to run the show? Beyond the center pieces? Being In charge of such an event comes with a lot of pressure.
I would stop worrying about the esthetics and be praying for a truly successful event enjoyed by all.
Or has it been forgotten that this is a church event? You know...where Christ should be present? Focus on that instead.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 22:15:22 GMT
Forma = tuxedos, ballgowns. Church attire is not formal to start with. $30 a plate is not a "formal" dinner price point either. Held in a church ... lowers the "formal" aspects as well. Assuming the majority of those buying tickets will be members of the church they know good and well whether to expect "real" dishes or disposable. Every church I've been in has plenty of people willing to clean-up prior to the event but precious one or two who actually will after the event. Being it is a church related event with unpaid kitchen staff I'd expect disposable. I realize that having a formal event in a church changes the definition, which is why I made sure to mention it was being held in a church. So I guess call it semi-formal. And every church has different standards of church attire too, although I believe I said dressier than church attire, and our members tend to go for their Sunday best for church attire, so for a formal event they would come dressed in suits, and dressy dresses. As for the clean up, I also already mentioned that there was a group of people who had already volunteered to do all the dishes, because they also would rather use "real" dinnerware. The problem is that perhaps they tried too hard to keep the costs low, and have now short changed themselves. I am also quite aware that $60 is not a formal price point, but they are doing it for at cost which you have to keep in mind. If they weren't doing it at the church and not at cost (or slightly below) it would be a few hundred dollars per plate. And all of the above ^^ is really moot. IMO, if it's an event where you are expected to dress up, I'm expecting to be served on dinner plates and steel utensils.
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Feb 1, 2015 22:15:45 GMT
Question. How will the food get from the kitchen/prep area to the diners? Waitstaff? Buffet line? Waitstaff isn't going to be able to balance four paper plates in their hands at a time. Depending on the flimsiness of the paper plates, they may not be able to use one hand to lift it from a tray to a table. Did you order extra food for those entrees bound to end up on the floor?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 22:17:46 GMT
Since it's at a church, I don't expect them to have a stockpile of real plates so I would just have them buy nice looking plastic plates. The church has real plates. They are short 50 since they don't normally host events quite as large as this one, and the person in charge of getting more thinks it's just snobbery to want real plates. So they will spend money getting tacky plates instead of 50 extra plates.
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Post by Sam on Feb 1, 2015 22:17:53 GMT
Personally, the whole tone of your post is pretty judgmental to my ears. Did you offer to run the show? Beyond the center pieces? Being In charge of such an event comes with a lot of pressure. I would stop worrying about the esthetics and be praying for a truly successful event enjoyed by all. Or has it been forgotten that this is a church event? You know...where Christ should be present? Focus on that instead. Shall we play 'spot the irony' with your post, or do you need it spelling out for you??
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Post by annabella on Feb 1, 2015 22:18:02 GMT
I wouldn't mind but I understand your concern. My SIL uses nice paper plates for Thanksgiving and it all comes together beautifully. However, if you are using the cheap stuff, then I would feel awkward being associated with it if I were you. For holiday meals in someone's home, I do expect real plates.
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Post by annabella on Feb 1, 2015 22:19:21 GMT
Since it's at a church, I don't expect them to have a stockpile of real plates so I would just have them buy nice looking plastic plates. The church has real plates. They are short 50 since they don't normally host events quite as large as this one, and the person in charge of getting more thinks it's just snobbery to want real plates. So they will spend money getting tacky plates instead of 50 extra plates. Then they have to ask themselves, is this an event they will be holding yearly, thus it would be wise to invest in more plates. Who is going to wash and dry all the plates for a good hour or more after the event? And do they have storage for the plates afterwards?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 22:20:19 GMT
Question. How will the food get from the kitchen/prep area to the diners? Waitstaff? Buffet line? Waitstaff isn't going to be able to balance four paper plates in their hands at a time. Depending on the flimsiness of the paper plates, they may not be able to use one hand to lift it from a tray to a table. Did you order extra food for those entrees bound to end up on the floor? The caterer is preparing the meal in our large kitchen and I'm not sure about waitstaff.
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Post by msbee on Feb 1, 2015 22:21:46 GMT
Have you all checked criagslist for plates and flatware. Even a restaurant supply company might have inexpensive dishes.
If you are a member of the church can you "tithe" more dishes to the kitchen? It's also not very good stewardship to use so many disposables.
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Post by Dani-Mani on Feb 1, 2015 22:24:13 GMT
Personally, the whole tone of your post is pretty judgmental to my ears. Did you offer to run the show? Beyond the center pieces? Being In charge of such an event comes with a lot of pressure. I would stop worrying about the esthetics and be praying for a truly successful event enjoyed by all. Or has it been forgotten that this is a church event? You know...where Christ should be present? Focus on that instead. Shall we play 'spot the irony' with your post, or do you need it spelling out for you?? Huh?
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Post by lindas on Feb 1, 2015 22:24:18 GMT
Question. How will the food get from the kitchen/prep area to the diners? Waitstaff? Buffet line? Waitstaff isn't going to be able to balance four paper plates in their hands at a time. Depending on the flimsiness of the paper plates, they may not be able to use one hand to lift it from a tray to a table. Did you order extra food for those entrees bound to end up on the floor? That was my question too. I don't see how you could do a buffet with a paper plate even if they were the Solo plastic ones.
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Post by Sam on Feb 1, 2015 22:28:43 GMT
Your 'Huh' is duly noted, Dani-Mani.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 22:32:15 GMT
Personally, the whole tone of your post is pretty judgmental to my ears. Did you offer to run the show? Beyond the center pieces? Being In charge of such an event comes with a lot of pressure. I would stop worrying about the esthetics and be praying for a truly successful event enjoyed by all. Or has it been forgotten that this is a church event? You know...where Christ should be present? Focus on that instead. I'm sorry you feel that way. The committee has prayerfully gone about planning this event that it will be enjoyable by all. I am here to vent. I know all about the pressure. My SIL is on the committee, she called me because she's upset about using paper plates but there isn't much they can do at this point. I was was asked to create an environment, one that I was happy to do. When you're planning an event you want people to focus on enjoying the event, not on the little things that shouldn't be. My job isn't to make the decor the focus, but to make sure the decor enhances the evening. I am irritated, and I came here to see if I was way off base. That's all. I will attend the dinner and have a wonderful spiritual filled evening, but right now, I am letting off some steam. And I must say, your post sounds very condescending. Whether it's a church event or not, when I'm given a job, it still has to get done with a set of standards.
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