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Post by tamiq on Jul 8, 2014 17:42:06 GMT
My sons girlfriend stayed with us for 3 days last week. While here, I noticed she ate barely anything. She is small/tiny so I thought it was just that. Then she mentions she is Kosher. UGH I was sooo embarrassed because I would have made sure to have food here for her. (Gonna kill my son for that lol) Anyway, she is on her way back over and I have no clue what to serve for dinner or just have on hand for her. Please help! Btw, I asked her and she is so shy and she just said not to worry about it.  |
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Post by peabay on Jul 8, 2014 17:45:55 GMT
I'll let someone more knowledgeable about the food speak to that - but get paper plates and disposable utensils. I know that's what my friend's parents (who keep Kosher) use when they visit her (she does not keep a Kosher home.)
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Post by ten&rose on Jul 8, 2014 17:52:44 GMT
Barilla makes kosher pasta and sauce. Ask her how kosher she keeps.
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Post by tamiq on Jul 8, 2014 17:59:26 GMT
I did notice she only used paper plates and disposable utensils while here. It didn't register with me why at the time because having the 2 boys home from college along with girlfriends I thought they were just saving me a mess. Haha
Thank you both for the suggestions so far. I just feel so bad and want to make sure this time I have plenty for her to eat.
I did google but like ksuheather said it depends on how kosher and that I just don't know.
Also would love some snack type ideas if possible.
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Post by annabella on Jul 8, 2014 18:14:36 GMT
In college I remember there was an event with food and the girl who was an orthodox jew said she can eat anything vegetarian.
Yes I remember at the buffet line someone in charge was really anal about the serving spoons not touching anything else.
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Post by Scrapbrat on Jul 8, 2014 18:18:58 GMT
My DS's Scout troop meets in a synagogue. We can only serve kosher foods at Scout events. The rules (that's not the righ term, but I can't think of what it is) are kind of complicated. Because there are prohibitions about meats/fish being served with dairy, one of our simplest guidelines for Scout events is that everything is vegetarian. That way cheese and other dairy products can be safely used.
Here is what the synagogue office sent to me regarding acceptable foods when I was planning an event for my DS using one of the rooms: "No meat (unless Kosher), no pork, no shellfish, no items made with lard, no Jello; any and all vegetarian items, fruits, vegetables, and grains are fine."
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Post by tamiq on Jul 8, 2014 18:20:39 GMT
Thank you all! I will go with the vegetarian thing and have plenty of paper plates, etc.
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Post by peabay on Jul 8, 2014 18:21:33 GMT
Hummus and vegetables.
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Post by ahiller on Jul 8, 2014 18:42:00 GMT
I seem to remember there being a thread about this on 2Peas a while back. You might be able to find it still and get some ideas.
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Post by bluepoprocks on Jul 8, 2014 18:46:11 GMT
Some things are labeled Kosher you can look for that and at stores around here there are whole sections of Kosher foods I'm pretty sure there are acceptable snacks in that area.
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Post by elaine on Jul 8, 2014 19:37:26 GMT
None of your pots and pans are kosher (or bakeware) so she won't be able to eat anything prepared/cooked in them. My sister, when visiting my mom, buys kosher food and then is able to heat it in disposable unused containers in the microwave if it is also wrapped in Saran Wrap.
There are many things such as Cheerios that are Kosher, so even a bowl of cereal and milk can make a great snack.
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Post by elaine on Jul 8, 2014 19:38:28 GMT
But again, you'll need a good supply of plastic/paper plates, bowls and plastic utensils.
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Post by anxiousmom on Jul 8, 2014 19:44:55 GMT
None of your pots and pans are kosher (or bakeware) so she won't be able to eat anything prepared/cooked in them. My sister, when visiting my mom, buys kosher food and then is able to heat it in disposable unused containers in the microwave if it is also wrapped in Saran Wrap. There are many things such as Cheerios that are Kosher, so even a bowl of cereal and milk can make a great snack. I am not Jewish, but I had a friend who was strictly kosher. When she had a baby, I wanted to fix her and her family a casserole to help out so I called our local synagogue and spoke to the rabbi about what would be appropriate. What I remember was that I could not use any of my pots and pans, nor any of my utensils because they may have been used in a way that would not be kosher. There were restrictions on what I could mix together, but I am afraid that I don't remember what those were. I ended up making a vegetarian lasagna, using all new (and certified kosher as appropriate) pans (I used disposable,) mixing bowls and utensils. I also provided the information to the family so they would know. The rabbi said that he was really happy to talk to me as most people don't think about this when they make food for families that keep kosher kitchens and he really appreciated that I wanted to go through the trouble. |
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Post by Sassy Sabrina SWZ on Jul 8, 2014 20:06:02 GMT
I agree with the previous suggestions to use disposable plates and to be cautious about using your regular pans and cooking utensils. In addition, be aware that people who keep kosher more stringently would not be able to eat milk, cheese, and other dairy products without a specific hechsher [endorsement] that they accept.
I don't keep kosher (in a stringent way), but I often bring a fruit salad to gatherings with my family who keep kosher. I use a cutting board that is reserved for vegetables and fruits (covering your cutting surface with paper towels would probably work also), and I have one large knife that I use only for that purpose.
Fortunately for me, my family is less restrictive when they're not eating at home, so I can use my regular pans, dishes, and utensils. Recent dinners for them have included:
hummus and veggies
smoked salmon on crostini with herb butter and dill
tuna burgers with sesame ginger vinaigrette
noodle kugel with pineapple, apples, and raisins
roasted veggies (carrots, sweet potatoes, beets, butternut squash, potato, and onions)
green beans
mixed grain salad (tabouli, basmati rice, veggies, etc)
tuna salad with veggies
cole slaw
spinach brownies
It's very sweet and hospitable of you to try to make foods she can eat. It's much easier if she's not concerned about the cooking pans. However, if that's a problem, you might be able to buy prepared foods at a kosher supermarket or restaurant and then simply reheat them, in their containers, in the microwave.
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Post by elaine on Jul 8, 2014 20:23:26 GMT
I also wanted to add that your son deserves a gentle dope slap when she is not around. I have boys, so I know that they don't always think about what might be important to let their mothers know. There is no excuse for HIM not letting you know, ahead of any visits, that she keeps kosher. Silly boy owes you (and his girlfriend) BIG time.
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Post by elaine on Jul 8, 2014 20:37:23 GMT
P.s. Many soy products - soy milk, soy ice cream, tofutti cream cheese - are kosher and not considered dairy (except in rare circumstances). Many margarines are also kosher.
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Post by scrappinghappy on Jul 8, 2014 20:54:28 GMT
An easy kosher symbol in the USA that is generally accepted by all who keep kosher is a U in a circle.  A little D next to it is OK - just means it is Dairy. A little P is also OK - means kosher for Passover. No letters means it's OK to eat with meat. You should also check with her on her requirements. Some kosher observant Jews will eat vegetarian out, some even fish, even if it's been cooked using non-kosher utensils. Others will not eat anything that isn't 100% kosher. A general rule for my ultra observant family eating in my non-kosher kitchen is that if the food is vegetarian/dairy or marked kosher AND doesn't need to be heated to be served, then they will eat it off of disposable dishes and utensils . Some easy ideas: Bagels with cream cheese and lox, fruit or fruit salads but no berries, Veggies with dips but no broccoli or cauliflower, no lettuces, cabbages or other similar leafy vegetables so no salads, Kosher deli cold cuts (sealed - they must open it) with kosher rye and condiments (don't forget pickles  ), hummus and crackers. Everything must be sealed and be kosher. Once a non kosher utensil touches the food it becomes non-kosher. Don't mix meat and milk, no shellfish, no pork. Just about all the usual snacks you buy are probably kosher and you don't know it. Look for that little symbol on chips, popcorn, crackers, cream cheeses, nuts, raisins, trailmix, pretzels, candy, cookies, donuts and cakes (pre-packaged), canned goods, ice cream, etc. You may not even need a special trip to the store  |
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Post by msliz on Jul 8, 2014 21:10:56 GMT
Eggs are pareve, which means they are considered neither meat or dairy, and can be eaten at any meal.
I'm wondering if eggs that are hard boiled in a non-kosher pot can still be served to someone who keeps kosher, as they are still protected by their shell. I know that refrigerated items can stored in a refrigerator next to non kosher items, as long as they are securely wrapped. Maybe the same reasoning could apply to hard boiled eggs still in their shells? Perhaps someone who is more knowledgeable about keeping kosher can comment.
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Post by scrappinghappy on Jul 8, 2014 21:24:21 GMT
Nope eggs are not kosher if cooked with non kosher utensils, pot, spatula, wooden spoon etc whether in their shells or not.
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Post by Sassy Sabrina SWZ on Jul 8, 2014 21:52:20 GMT
Another thought: when you say "don't mix meat and dairy," it doesn't simply mean that you shouldn't mix them in the same dish (e.g., meat/cheese lasagna, cheeseburger, cream sauce on meat, etc); it means you shouldn't serve both types of food at the same meal, even if they're served separately (e.g., meat as the main course and ice cream for dessert).
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Post by tamiq on Jul 8, 2014 21:58:27 GMT
OMG, thank you SO much you all. There was so much I didn't know. We grabbed some vegetarian foods and snacks with that U
symbol on them. Since I had no clue on the pots and pans I am rethinking dinner.
Again, thank you!
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Post by elaine on Jul 8, 2014 21:58:27 GMT
Another thought: when you say "don't mix meat and dairy," it doesn't simply mean that you shouldn't mix them in the same dish (e.g., meat/cheese lasagna, cheeseburger, cream sauce on meat, etc); it means you shouldn't serve both types of food at the same meal, even if they're served separately (e.g., meat as the main course and ice cream for dessert). Yes! That is why pareve soy ice cream is so popular with the kosher community!  |
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Post by paigepea on Jul 9, 2014 2:50:03 GMT
Look for a circle U, circle K or MK symbol.
Underneath the symbol it will say Parev (neither neat nor dairy), dairy, or meat.
Trader joes sells a ton of kosher cheese and meat.
Does she eat in a restaurant? If she does, then I'd think regular vegetarian or fish is fine. If she doesn't, then you might want to pick up some kosher cheese at least.
Bagels
Cream cheese (I think Philadelphia is kosher)
Crackers (triscuits)
Many cereals
Pretzels / chips
Many baked goods
Wacky Mack in the kosher sections (Mac n cheese)
Tuna
Salmon
Smoked salmon
Don't serve dairy with meat.
And stay away from she'll fish and pork while she's there.
Keep in mind:
You can eat dairy before meat on a different plate, but you can't eat meat before dairy.
You wait after eating meat before you can eat dairy again.
She might not be overly happy with your pots and pans.
Glass doesn't have to be meat or dairy, it can be either. So glass dishes, bowls, etc are all good. I should say new glass. Old glass that has touched your food is no longer kosher.
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Post by lindywholoveskids on Jul 9, 2014 3:09:06 GMT
Good you asked , and I'd have a talk with her when you can. She may have expected your son to do the communicating.
She's the one who can answer the questions .
Enjoy your visit!
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Post by GiantsFan on Jul 9, 2014 3:21:08 GMT
I'm sorry to say that I had no idea keeping kosher was restrictive down to the dishes.
I think it's great that you are trying to accommodate her.
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Jul 9, 2014 3:25:46 GMT
Some easy ideas: Bagels with cream cheese and lox, fruit or fruit salads but no berries, Veggies with dips but no broccoli or cauliflower, no lettuces, cabbages or other similar leafy vegetables so no salads, Kosher deli cold cuts (sealed - they must open it) with kosher rye and condiments (don't forget pickles ), hummus and crackers. Everything must be sealed and be kosher. Once a non kosher utensil touches the food it becomes non-kosher. I knew about meat/dairy/shellfish, but how come no berries, broccoli/cauliflower, or leafy veg? |
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Post by scrappinghappy on Jul 9, 2014 3:56:05 GMT
Some easy ideas: Bagels with cream cheese and lox, fruit or fruit salads but no berries, Veggies with dips but no broccoli or cauliflower, no lettuces, cabbages or other similar leafy vegetables so no salads, Kosher deli cold cuts (sealed - they must open it) with kosher rye and condiments (don't forget pickles ), hummus and crackers. Everything must be sealed and be kosher. Once a non kosher utensil touches the food it becomes non-kosher. I knew about meat/dairy/shellfish, but how come no berries, broccoli/cauliflower, or leafy veg? They need to be washed very carefully to insure there are no insects trapped inside and it is very time consuming and when first learning how to check for them, is done under strict supervision of someone who knows how to do it - like your mom, gran or an aunt. |
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Jul 9, 2014 4:34:48 GMT
I knew about meat/dairy/shellfish, but how come no berries, broccoli/cauliflower, or leafy veg? They need to be washed very carefully to insure there are no insects trapped inside and it is very time consuming and when first learning how to check for them, is done under strict supervision of someone who knows how to do it - like your mom, gran or an aunt. Interesting. Thanks! |
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Post by BeckyTech on Jul 9, 2014 5:07:44 GMT
If you have a Jewish deli in town, they should have many kosher selections available. We have one in town that is both a deli and a restaurant. Not everything on their menu is kosher, but many items are.
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Post by mztfied on Jul 9, 2014 6:36:15 GMT
This has been such an interesting thread. I learned a lot!
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), hummus and crackers. Everything must be sealed and be kosher. Once a non kosher utensil touches the food it becomes non-kosher.
