Olan
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Post by Olan on Mar 25, 2015 15:51:12 GMT
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Post by anonrefugee on Mar 25, 2015 16:06:40 GMT
Ah Olan, that sounds amazing and overwhelming. I can't go into my experience here- as much due to time constraints- but I wouldn't worry about presents at the end.
Use the moment as a positive opportunity to rethink what you believe, and be open to other possibilities. That journey most likely will be a gift, whether it ends in faith or more self knowledge.
Btw I'm a Christian, of the variety that believes there are multiple, plural, beliefs following different paths along a shared road.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 16:10:14 GMT
L, maybe your time is now. Christian, Muslim or Jewish (Pagan, Wiccan, Buddhist, Shintoist, Sikh, Hindu, etc) maybe you are being called to religion. I was and the time was right. It doesn't matter which you find, it will be right for you. This is just a guess. It might not be either.
You don't need to do anything. You can ask yourself does this make sense to me? Or you can say "naaaaa this is just a coincidence". It's totally up to you! That's the best part of free will which we all have.
Best, Elannah
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 16:54:55 GMT
Olan.- I'm a Christian and I will pray for you. Not in the way that you will come to Christ right this minute but that you will be in the right places at the right times and hear the right messages that give your soul peace and that He will direct the right people to you to help answer your questions.
Since you felt a connection at your sisters church, why not go back there this Sunday and just listen?
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Post by gar on Mar 25, 2015 17:02:23 GMT
It could be a lot of things....you were in an emotional state of mind, enjoying the day and the surroundings, a lot of people essentially have the same hearts desires and fears, maybe you're ready for spirituality in your life though that needn't be in the Christian sense. Take from it what you want...if you want to explore it more then do that
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Post by scrapqueen01 on Mar 25, 2015 17:09:04 GMT
Sounds to me like the Holy Spirit is stirring in you. Jesus knocks on the door of our heart hoping we will stop and listen. We are the ones who have to be willing.
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Post by freebird on Mar 25, 2015 17:11:29 GMT
Sounds to me like, you should just keep an open mind, and let things work themselves out. I think things will go exactly as planned, whose plan? It might not be yours... but it doesn't sound bad.
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Post by songbird on Mar 25, 2015 17:14:43 GMT
I had an experience like that once. I had never met the guy, and there was no way for him to have known some of the stuff that he pegged regarding my life, my desires, my gifts and my fears. It shook me. A couple of the things I sort of laughed off as just maybe his own take on the "word God gave him" about me, but most of it (99%) was spot on. He knew I spoke Spanish (not many people knew that about me), he knew that I was musically gifted, that I love to dance, that I had a fear of dying alone and never being married. There's more, but they are more personal. The skeptic in me wanted to find a way to dismiss it, but I couldn't. So instead I chose to just take comfort in knowing that God does really know all about us and can use other people to really speak into our lives and make an impact.
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Post by conchita on Mar 25, 2015 17:21:42 GMT
Sometimes people ask for a sign then when they get one it isn't good enough. I wouldn't dismiss it. It's a call to faith and a personal walk with God. I don't subscribe to religion, it's man made and draws people away from God. You've shared several examples of religion that kept you away as a child and now you've got the opportunity to explore faith. Seek and you shall find. Which is my own personal story. No one but God could convince me. I had a lot of questions and a lot of anger by the patriarchal nature of the church. It turned me away. God didn't and the more I asked and sought answers, the more I understood God's nature and love for me. I am a Christian and believe Jesus is the Son of God but I don't affiliate with any particular church. If you're interested in learning about spiritual gifts, prophecy included, from a Biblical perspective look into the book of Corinthians.
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Post by gottapeanow on Mar 25, 2015 17:28:44 GMT
As corny as it sounds, I fully believe that God was showing and showering His love upon you. I have had too many experiences like this to count on both the giving and receiving end. Feel free to PM me if you like. Prayers, Lisa
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Post by MaryMary on Mar 25, 2015 17:31:58 GMT
I don't believe in God because it makes sense. There is little logic in belief, and I try to be very logical in most areas of life. I believe because there have been moments, feelings, impressions, answers that I cannot explain but I also cannot ignore.
Like, when my BIL told my infertile sister that he'd had a dream that their daughter was coming soon. A week later my sister was pregnant. And nine months later she had a baby girl.
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Post by my2apps2 on Mar 25, 2015 17:46:26 GMT
Sometimes people ask for a sign then when they get one it isn't good enough. I wouldn't dismiss it. It's a call to faith and a personal walk with God. I don't subscribe to religion, it's man made and draws people away from God. You've shared several examples of religion that kept you away as a child and now you've got the opportunity to explore faith. Seek and you shall find. Which is my own personal story. No one but God could convince me. I had a lot of questions and a lot of anger by the patriarchal nature of the church. It turned me away. God didn't and the more I asked and sought answers, the more I understood God's nature and love for me. I am a Christian and believe Jesus is the Son of God but I don't affiliate with any particular church. If you're interested in learning about spiritual gifts, prophecy included, from a Biblical perspective look into the book of Corinthians. I completely agree with this.
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Post by songbird on Mar 25, 2015 17:59:51 GMT
I don't believe in God because it makes sense. There is little logic in belief, and I try to be very logical in most areas of life. I believe because there have been moments, feelings, impressions, answers that I cannot explain but I also cannot ignore. Like, when my BIL told my infertile sister that he'd had a dream that their daughter was coming soon. A week later my sister was pregnant. And nine months later she had a baby girl. That is so amazing and wonderful on multiple levels! What a neat story/testimony to have that is so personal and real!
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Post by femalebusiness on Mar 25, 2015 18:16:43 GMT
I'd say if it makes you think, it is a good thing. This coming from a serious agnostic.
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Post by blondiec47 on Mar 25, 2015 18:29:24 GMT
A little back story--I was raised Catholic and went to Catholic high school. Because of my rebellious nature, I walked away from the Church after HS. I still believed in God just not organized religion. I still feel that way mostly today. But I have asked for Gods' help now and again and if I am quiet and listen I do get answers. Just be open to the experience and you will know the right answer. You can be spiritual without organized religion. My Catholic family is not happy that this is what I have choosen but they are really good about it. It works for me and that's all that matters. Enjoy the experience.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 23:05:46 GMT
A little back story--I was raised Catholic and went to Catholic high school. Because of my rebellious nature, I walked away from the Church after HS. I still believed in God just not organized religion. I still feel that way mostly today. But I have asked for Gods' help now and again and if I am quiet and listen I do get answers. Just be open to the experience and you will know the right answer. You can be spiritual without organized religion. My Catholic family is not happy that this is what I have choosen but they are really good about it. It works for me and that's all that matters. Enjoy the experience. I agree with this. People do and say crazy things in the name of religion and hypocrisy is rampant. Anyone who tells you that you have to act a certain way, do certain things, can't drink,etc needs to be ignored. I believe that God will convict you personally on anything that's in your life that needs changing. Sincerely, a former smoker, continued drinker, f-bomb dropping, bible reading Christian who doesn't attend church on a regular basis. And God loves me and made me who I am. This is about your personal relationship with God..not following rules. Most people bark about the 10 commandments and forget that was the old covenant. The new covenant was Jesus dying on the cross for ultimate forgiveness. sorry...I got a little sidetracked there. I went to Christian school my whole life and was told I would burn in hell unless I changed. Kind of fires me up when someone else mentions the same experience.
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Post by tarheelgurl on Mar 25, 2015 23:18:14 GMT
Sounds to me like the Holy Spirit is stirring in you. Jesus knocks on the door of our heart hoping we will stop and listen. We are the ones who have to be willing. ^^ This. I firmly believe it is the Holy Spirit stirring in you.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 23:38:10 GMT
I would think your sister had spoke to the pastor before the christening. Since she is a regular member of the church, she may have reached out to him possibly being concerned about your salvation. I don't know, that was my first thought.
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Post by flanz on Mar 26, 2015 0:03:07 GMT
I would think your sister had spoke to the pastor before the christening. Since she is a regular member of the church, she may have reached out to him possibly being concerned about your salvation. I don't know, that was my first thought. That was my first thought as well. If she thinks your soul needs saving, could she have spoken with her pastor and not be admitting it "for a good cause?"
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Post by Olan on Mar 26, 2015 4:09:16 GMT
I would think your sister had spoke to the pastor before the christening. Since she is a regular member of the church, she may have reached out to him possibly being concerned about your salvation. I don't know, that was my first thought. She isn't concerned for my salvation. I would say 75% of the prophecy she would have had knowledge of the rest I've never spoken aloud because well while I don't believe in Jesus and I am unsure of Gods "role" I do believe in energy and how speaking fears aloud give them power. Her only advice to me is a simple prayer of "God help me with my disbelief". Also thank you to all who weighed in.
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Post by Skypea on Mar 26, 2015 4:36:07 GMT
A little back story--I was raised Catholic and went to Catholic high school. Because of my rebellious nature, I walked away from the Church after HS. I still believed in God just not organized religion. I still feel that way mostly today. But I have asked for Gods' help now and again and if I am quiet and listen I do get answers. Just be open to the experience and you will know the right answer. You can be spiritual without organized religion. My Catholic family is not happy that this is what I have choosen but they are really good about it. It works for me and that's all that matters. Enjoy the experience. I agree with this. People do and say crazy things in the name of religion and hypocrisy is rampant. Anyone who tells you that you have to act a certain way, do certain things, can't drink,etc needs to be ignored. I believe that God will convict you personally on anything that's in your life that needs changing. Sincerely, a former smoker, continued drinker, f-bomb dropping, bible reading Christian who doesn't attend church on a regular basis. And God loves me and made me who I am. This is about your personal relationship with God..not following rules. Most people bark about the 10 commandments and forget that was the old covenant. The new covenant was Jesus dying on the cross for ultimate forgiveness. sorry...I got a little sidetracked there. I went to Christian school my whole life and was told I would burn in hell unless I changed. Kind of fires me up when someone else mentions the same experience. the new covenant doesn't do away with the 10 commandments. the 10 are covered with the 2 great Commandments.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2015 15:27:55 GMT
I would think your sister had spoke to the pastor before the christening. Since she is a regular member of the church, she may have reached out to him possibly being concerned about your salvation. I don't know, that was my first thought. She isn't concerned for my salvation. I would say 75% of the prophecy she would have had knowledge of the rest I've never spoken aloud because well while I don't believe in Jesus and I am unsure of Gods "role" I do believe in energy and how speaking fears aloud give them power. Her only advice to me is a simple prayer of "God help me with my disbelief". Also thank you to all who weighed in. Thanks, I wasn't really sure.
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Post by gsquaredmom on Mar 26, 2015 15:56:38 GMT
I think he may have remembered bits and pieces of casual conversations with your sister and guessed/figured out the rest based on your reactions when he was talking to you. Your sister may not remember these tidbits. Some people are VERY gifted at reading body language and facial expressions, guessing common personal themes and seeing how people react. When they do not find an honest profession some become scam artists. His gift does not make his message any less valuable or meaningful to you. I am just offering another possibility....
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Post by raindancer on Mar 26, 2015 15:58:36 GMT
She isn't concerned for my salvation. I would say 75% of the prophecy she would have had knowledge of the rest I've never spoken aloud because well while I don't believe in Jesus and I am unsure of Gods "role" I do believe in energy and how speaking fears aloud give them power. Her only advice to me is a simple prayer of "God help me with my disbelief". Also thank you to all who weighed in. Thanks, I wasn't really sure. I still would wonder what he picked up on about me in conversation, etc. I had a similar experience. I had a mormon bishop approach me and tell me that he heard I was engaged to be married. (I had not met this man before, he knew my room mate). I said I was, and he said he had a message he felt prompted by god to deliver to me. He informed me that I was making a mistake and that this man I had chosen would lead me astray,hurt and betray me and that I would live to regret it. He encouraged me to walk away. He knew a lot of "things" about me, that I now realize are similar to what psychics use, those techniques they employ to get people to believe they really know something about you or a loved one. I have been married in a happy marriage for 19 years next month. I say it's just an ego thing, and to be careful. I suspect you were just in an emotional space in your brain and heart and that makes it a lot easier to "reach" someone. I actually really think it's crappy for supposed "leaders" to do that to people, knowing full well what they are doing. He knew what kind of space you would be in and to approach you at that time is hardly fair. I can have a similar experience to those I had in church that I was told were "god" when I watch my kids play well in a band concert, or when I see them overcome a challenge, or when I'm having a bad day and hear a beautiful song that reminds me of something wonderful from my past. We are human and are wired that way. It doesn't mean there is a god. I also think you can get something from hearing a sermon without believing the guy in the sky is responsible. You can learn a moral or hear something that helps you navigate your way just like you could get from a fairy tale or a self help book.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2015 16:05:28 GMT
I agree with this. People do and say crazy things in the name of religion and hypocrisy is rampant. Anyone who tells you that you have to act a certain way, do certain things, can't drink,etc needs to be ignored. I believe that God will convict you personally on anything that's in your life that needs changing. Sincerely, a former smoker, continued drinker, f-bomb dropping, bible reading Christian who doesn't attend church on a regular basis. And God loves me and made me who I am. This is about your personal relationship with God..not following rules. Most people bark about the 10 commandments and forget that was the old covenant. The new covenant was Jesus dying on the cross for ultimate forgiveness. sorry...I got a little sidetracked there. I went to Christian school my whole life and was told I would burn in hell unless I changed. Kind of fires me up when someone else mentions the same experience. the new covenant doesn't do away with the 10 commandments. the 10 are covered with the 2 great Commandments.
Agreed, but most people focus on the law instead of forgiveness. It's not about rules or what you do and don't do.
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Post by moveablefeast on Mar 26, 2015 17:34:54 GMT
I had replied to this last night but the board ate it... But I just want to say something brief.
There is a big difference between speaking as a prophet, and speaking as a fortune teller, and speaking as a psychic.
I believe that a prophet who is speaking from God speaks about something that God is doing or will do.
I have experienced this twice. Once was a personal prophecy spoken to me by a man I had never met. He spoke exactly a set of words that I had "heard" in my head and, after some time spent testing what he said, I believed that God had spoken through him to get me to pay attention. The other was just a couple of weeks ago, when a priest I know a little bit came up to me and spoke extremely specifically about something he couldn't have known, and told me that God was going to do something specific for me in response. I tested this too, and felt confident after doing so that it was a word from God to get me to listen.
ETA I want to clarify the second one. He said he was thinkng of my parents (who he doesn't know) and that I was fretting over their care (I haven't discussed it with anyone) and said he believed God had a storehouse of good things to pour into that situation, not necessarily money but the personal ability to take on their care. He was telling me that God was saying that He would be my strength and my portion to get through this season in life. There were some very specific things about what I am considering and feeling. What I felt when I heard it was that God was present, that God was real, and that God had a plan for my life and my circumstances. Those are things that made me believe it was prophecy for me.
I have been a believer for years and years, but I am kind of a skeptic and I am really hesitant about the idea of prophecy because I don't want to get taken by hucksters. And they exist.
But in my heart, I believe I can ask God to tell me if a word is from God or if it is from a human mouth. God doesn't mind if we ask, He is big enough to handle that.
One sort of theological word we can use to talk about God's grace is "prevenient", meaning that He did it before we knew it or accepted it. So I do not believe that you have to already believe to receive a word from Him. He loved us first. And regardless of all the other crap we attach to it, that is the good news. And maybe God wants you to know that, or maybe someone else cares about you so much that they are trying to show you that if even in our flawed weird way.
Anyway, that is not as brief as I hoped but that's my thoughts.
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Post by gottapeanow on Mar 26, 2015 18:53:59 GMT
There is a big difference between speaking as a prophet, and speaking as a fortune teller, and speaking as a psychic. Lisa
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Post by momstime on Mar 26, 2015 21:42:00 GMT
I love what happened to you. Isn't it a great feeling when we allow ourselves to believe that we are being watched over and we are loved? I think so. It is so much better than just stumbling in the dark all alone.
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Post by scrappinmama on Mar 26, 2015 21:52:23 GMT
First of all, I want to say that I am not a perfect Christian. I tend to be open-minded, and don't assume that everything in the bible is truth. I would tell you this. Have an open mind. Listen to what your heart is telling you. And don't let someone make you feel bad or inferior because of your beliefs. I think you are on a beginning journey here, and I think that is awesome! It certainly wouldn't hurt to have a conversation with God. Be open and honest in that conversation, even explaining that you aren't sure about what you are feeling.
And remember that you don't have to go to church if you don't want to. You can be a person of faith without going to church.
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Post by Olan on Mar 27, 2015 7:09:44 GMT
I had replied to this last night but the board ate it... But I just want to say something brief. There is a big difference between speaking as a prophet, and speaking as a fortune teller, and speaking as a psychic. I believe that a prophet who is speaking from God speaks about something that God is doing or will do. I have experienced this twice. Once was a personal prophecy spoken to me by a man I had never met. He spoke exactly a set of words that I had "heard" in my head and, after some time spent testing what he said, I believed that God had spoken through him to get me to pay attention. The other was just a couple of weeks ago, when a priest I know a little bit came up to me and spoke extremely specifically about something he couldn't have known, and told me that God was going to do something specific for me in response. I tested this too, and felt confident after doing so that it was a word from God to get me to listen. ETA I want to clarify the second one. He said he was thinkng of my parents (who he doesn't know) and that I was fretting over their care (I haven't discussed it with anyone) and said he believed God had a storehouse of good things to pour into that situation, not necessarily money but the personal ability to take on their care. He was telling me that God was saying that He would be my strength and my portion to get through this season in life. There were some very specific things about what I am considering and feeling. What I felt when I heard it was that God was present, that God was real, and that God had a plan for my life and my circumstances. Those are things that made me believe it was prophecy for me.
I have been a believer for years and years, but I am kind of a skeptic and I am really hesitant about the idea of prophecy because I don't want to get taken by hucksters. And they exist. But in my heart, I believe I can ask God to tell me if a word is from God or if it is from a human mouth. God doesn't mind if we ask, He is big enough to handle that. One sort of theological word we can use to talk about God's grace is "prevenient", meaning that He did it before we knew it or accepted it. So I do not believe that you have to already believe to receive a word from Him. He loved us first. And regardless of all the other crap we attach to it, that is the good news. And maybe God wants you to know that, or maybe someone else cares about you so much that they are trying to show you that if even in our flawed weird way. Anyway, that is not as brief as I hoped but that's my thoughts. Thank you for sharing that. I had a whole message typed out but my phone started acting wonky. I should be sleeping.
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