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Post by anonrefugee on May 4, 2015 15:57:48 GMT
Could you be overloaded, over whelmed? I was beginning to feel I was always the opposing voice in one group- if only in my head. I took position that "they" can't "all" be wrong, and maybe I needed to cut back. I resigned from board, and stepped back volunteering with them. It removed a huge burden.
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Post by dreamer on May 4, 2015 15:59:20 GMT
OMHECK! You are not the crappiest person ever! It is called justice. It is calling being fair and NOT ENTITLED! Ugh....I'm so tired of the entitlement people have.
Anyway, maybe therapy? I've been doing this can't remember where I found it. it's funny but not meant to be if you know what I mean. You blow up the balloon and put all of your anger and pain inside. Then let it float away. I tell my kids put it in the balloon of pain. Seriously it helps. Silly as it sounds.
I really think I would write a letter to the district about the kid. I'm passive though. I'd do it anonymously.
Also why did all of you that worked not speak up when these people got in line? I'd say. All the workers and families to the front!
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Post by mikklynn on May 4, 2015 16:11:07 GMT
I think we all feel this way at times. But, if it's reached a level you feel you must post here anonymously, I think you should see a therapist.
It's OK to cut back on the volunteering, as anonrefugee suggested. It's also OK for things to be "good enough", not perfect.
Hugs as you work through this.
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Post by uksue on May 4, 2015 16:11:35 GMT
I often feel like you do although I would never act upon my feelings either. I sometimes feel my greatest challenge - what I was put here for- is to become more tolerant. I see people in my circle getting away with murder and enjoying wealth and perfect health and I think- why can't I have that? At the same time, as a Christian, it horrifies me that I think like that sometimes.
I don't think it makes us bad people and I do think that there must be some way of changing this behaviour . I find myself singing the dreaded 'let it go' so many times a day! I try to rationalise things by reminding myself that God has a plan for us all. If you are not of faith however,I'm not sure how else you can rationalise how unfair life sometimes appears to be.
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Post by knit.pea on May 4, 2015 16:13:47 GMT
It really could be hormonal, given your age. Sooo much starts happening around peri-menopause.
I found myself getting out of committees and relationships that were stressful in that way (when I could, of course). It helped a lot.
It will never all be fair. You do your best, and you teach/model for your kids to do their best. It's not up to you to change someone else's mind; be the best "you" and hopefully that example will help someone else ... but it ultimately is up to them.
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Post by maryland on May 4, 2015 16:20:05 GMT
All of those situations would frustrate me too! I agree with the poster that says so many feel entitled. We all make stupid mistakes, but there are some that won't admit their mistakes and feel entitled to have things their way all the time.
When I get frustrated, I "vent" to one of my friends. They usually agree with me, and I feel better. Or they give me a different way to look at it and even though they may not agree with me, sometimes looking at it in another way helps.
But for your situations, I would be angry too, and I support you in your feelings!
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Post by anonrefugee on May 4, 2015 16:25:17 GMT
Have to pop back in about the school transfer... It's not just the Privileged Parent's fault. Someone in admin is agreeing to the transfer. Our elementary principal loves to be the savior of lost kids. She accepts trouble makers kicked out of other schools. It's very annoying, at least one kid has needed more services than the school can provide. He was dangerous, and needed trained help, not good intentions. After we left school a group went to admin, because she wasn't listening. That made a difference- finally.
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Post by MDscrapaholic on May 4, 2015 16:27:36 GMT
I, too, feel this way sometimes, but I've just learned to let it go. I don't want to waste any of my precious time worrying about others. And remember, karma comes around and sometimes these entitled people get just what they deserve!
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Post by ilikepink on May 4, 2015 16:29:38 GMT
I agree with another poster - there could be a hormonal component in this. Was there a particular incident in the past that had the same "not fair" reaction in you? Is it possible that these more recent events have triggered something? The examples you gave are all normal, every day piss you off kind of things. I'm thinking (just wisdom of years, no education/training in this kind of thing) that in the past there was an incident that you didn't react/respond to, and these current things are triggers. Coupling that with hormonal changes, you can easily go over the edge for apparently no reason (not that I've ever done that, lol) but it's possible. Perhaps see a doctor and have hormone levels checked, but don't sweat the small stuff.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2015 16:29:57 GMT
Life happens. Talk to your GP and she will suggest someone you can talk to about your feelings. You are totally justified feeling the way you do.
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Post by LeaP on May 4, 2015 16:37:47 GMT
You didn't ask for validation, but please let me validate you anyway. I could have written your post verbatim a couple of years ago when I was volunteering a lot at my kids' schools and the budget crunch was crushing. I am a rule follower by nature and try to work within the system. I found that I knew too much about the schools and the other parents' foibles and sense of entitlement without helping with fundraising. It started to make me into a really bitter person.
Since then we have moved to Canada. I am a total outsider everywhere. While being an outsider is an issue, I am no longer filled with rage and bitterness.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2015 16:40:25 GMT
You are probably ahead of most people because you recognise some things you need to work on. Not knowing your background, I am going to tell you what helped me. I listened to theses cds: Battlefield of the mind.
Even if you are not religious, controlling your thoughts is something that can be learned and improves quality of life for anyone and everyone around them.
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Post by gonewalkabout on May 4, 2015 17:02:05 GMT
I agree with what everyone else is saying, you're noticing situations that are not really justified and are getting annoyed with it. I think everyone does that to a point. The problem is, that people such as yourself may start focusing on those things. It becomes even more annoying and becomes a cycle of hyper vigilance. The best way to deal with it is to refocus on something else, and that may be a bit hard at first, but stepping back from activities such as volunteering, a bit, might assist with that. Also look at your history and just see if there was anything that you feel might have triggered a situation that you felt was injustice where you maybe could have done something but didn't. If there is (and there might not be something huge, just small even) then settle it with yourself. Having said that, It could be hormones playing havoc with you too. Doesn't make it any less easy to deal with, but again, refocus. It takes practice, but trying to switch your mind to something else helps.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2015 17:14:17 GMT
Oh darling, hugs!!!! I've been in the potluck situation multiple times and now pretty much just plan on not working it and not attending and not eating because of the behavior of a large part of the crowd.
I tend to be very black and white on rules/laws/etc and luckily I am in a job position where that is supported by my CEO, etc. I could never work frontline management because I don't have the ability to bend rules as needed/wanted. I can tell my managers what I think the best path is, but if they don't choose it, they get to deal with any repercussions.
It definitely isn't you, but I will say that I often have to go to my outlet (quilting) to shut my brain off from things like what you posted. And I have tended to volunteer in different ways than I used to because of things I saw with some volunteer groups (like did I feel like they or I were really making a difference).
As to other's kids or jobs, I truly have found that most of the time, what goes around eventually will come around. Not really karma, but consequences. Not usually in my timing though.
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Post by MerryMom on May 4, 2015 17:14:35 GMT
Another example: This weekend, I attended a potluck dinner event, in which all the parents were asked to volunteer with set up, clean up, donations of food, activities for the kids, etc. Along with several other parents, I volunteered. We were there working our butts off for hours, yet as soon as it's dinner time, the few parents who don't show up til the very last second are the first in line to eat. Those of us who worked the event ended up at the back of the line, and ended up scraping the bottom of the dishes that were left in order to fill our plates. It was hard to miss those parents who were at the front of the line and their kids, plates overflowing with every yummy dish and even separate plates filled with desserts, when our kids were cutting one cookie in half to share. It was seriously all I could think about for the whole time I was eating. I was even drafting the letter in my head that I thought I should send out to everyone after the event. When I mentioned it to my friend, she was like, "Dude, let it go. It's not worth it." I know this was not the end of the world, but why can I not let this go? Then at the beginning of the potluck, the announcement should be make, "So that there is enough food for everyone, please limit to one serving (one entree) and no more than one plate of food per person. Once everyone is served, if any thing is left over, we will make the announcement for seconds. The volunteers who set up get to be first in line. " I find that reminders help a lot. I also had signs all over the place--"One entree only please so that everyone can be served." "One dessert item please until everyone is served." Also, even for a potluck, it does help to have a couple of people spread out along the potluck to serve only 1 piece of chicken so that greedy people don't take 4 pieces of chicken. I learned this from our track team banquet, as we go seniors, junior, sophomore, then freshmen in the food line. There was never any food left for the freshman and parents and they brought the main dishes. So I now have a few parents set back some entrees and desserts until everyone is through and then we put those items out for those who were last in line. It works well. As for diagnosis, irritability is part of diagnosis of dysthymia, mood disorders, PTSD, anti-social, Obsession-compulsive etc. in terms of rigidity and irritation. It probably is more of your personality versus being a diagnosis. You need to come to terms that others not doing what you think is "right" or "fair" isn't impeding you unless you allow it. You aren't the "hall monitor" for the world.
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Post by nyxish on May 4, 2015 17:40:58 GMT
Out of curiosity, you don't happen to be a Libra, are you? i find that i can get to this level of righteous (sometimes to the point of petty!) when i am feeling stressed and unappreciated otherwise. Maybe take a look at where you are putting your energy and decide if you are getting value out of those activities. For the potluck - i definitely feel your pain. We had a lot of that in the pagan community potlucks...to the point where finally someone in charge of the kitchen established the tradition that parents with young kids can go first, then the kitchen/ritual staff, then everyone else. Because otherwise, it was really frustrating.
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Post by lisacharlotte on May 4, 2015 17:41:06 GMT
so I have a few theories. I agree that hormones may be playing into some of this. I say this as someone who had a rough time transitioning into menopause. It was a year long PMS bender. HRT helped tremendously.
I also get a "I'm the victim" vibe which may be a part of your personality, a result of being overwhelmed, or just a mid-life change in your outlook. I agree that you should fix those things you can. The potluck is the easiest. you announce the volunteers go first. The other two really aren't your business. I agree therapy would probably be a good option to talk this out and zero in why you are so concerned with keeping score with others.
I'm sure someone here can help you put together a spreadsheet. :-)
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Post by foolana on May 4, 2015 18:03:39 GMT
I don't think you have any personality disorder, I think you're just overwhelmed. This would be the closest personality disorder that would fit your problems: borderline personality disorderI'm so sorry you're having such a hard time.
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Post by deekaye on May 4, 2015 18:18:35 GMT
You've gotten a lot of good suggestions/comments already but I wanted to add another thought: Your children are learning from you and modeling their behavior on yours. I don't know how old your children are but there will come a time when they start to notice those parents/children with that frustrating sense of entitlement. This will be another teaching opportunity to have the "right and wrong" talks with our children. We went through a frustrating time with one of my daughters when the coach's kid would always get to play the entire game, get picked for prime positions, get to help decide the roster and get to pick the uniform colors/styles (I know, I know, sounds petty but that's a big deal to elementary-aged girls!). We talked alot that summer about playing fair, being a team player, disappointment, life, etc. Hang in there, Mama. It is sooooo tempting to lash out but it doesn't help anything. The offenders won't listen/care and it will only make you more frustrated. Just know that you are doing a good job raising your children to be respectful citizens. Our young adults turned out pretty well! P.S. And just to validate your feelings: Why the heck do some people become huge pigs when it comes to dishing up for potlucks? They act like they've never eaten before!. Seriously, two plates?? In my experience, these are usually the same people who haven't contributed anything to the table...
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Post by julieb on May 4, 2015 18:23:13 GMT
I'm like you - a rule follower (probably has to do with Catholic upbringing). I was a letter writer(or an e-mail) when I felt there is an injustice. I've calmed down. Now I type the letter, get it off my chest, and then trash the letter. It feels good to put it all down and release it. Give it a try.
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Post by shanni on May 4, 2015 18:23:49 GMT
Honestly, all of your complaints are valid ones. They are things that would irritate me too. I think the difference comes where you said that it's consuming you. I agree with others that say maybe you need to take a step back and not be quite so involved in so many things. The fact that this is a relatively new thing seems to indicate that it's either hormonal or that you are so stressed out that you are beginning to snap.
That said, some of what you said reminds me of my daughter. In grade school/middle school, she would get SO upset over the injustices going on around her. One example: There was a field day at school where the kids were all playing games. A few boys kept cutting in line, and the adults monitoring the games didn't do anything about it. She got so worked up, her friends brought her out to me (I was there serving the snacks) as she was sobbing. SOBBING. Because boys were cutting in line. While everyone else was irritated and frustrated, she internalized it so much that she just couldn't take it anymore. She just kept saying how unfair it is and how these boys aren't playing by the rules. After several other similar instances, we took her to a counselor who diagnosed her with Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. We worked through therapy for a while, then eventually put her on a low dose of an anti-anxiety medication. It has made all the difference in the world for her. Things still bother her, but she's able to let it go much better than she used to.
I'm not saying that you have OCD, but if this is truly affecting you on a semi-regular basis and taking steps to reduce your stress doesn't work, I think it would be well worth seeing a therapist to help you work through it. (((HUGS)))
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2015 18:33:48 GMT
All of your advice is so helpful to me! I'm nodding my head in agreement to almost every response here. I DO think I tend to feel underappreciated at times, and I get so much comfort from just a little validation from time to time. That may where some of it stems from. I also DO tend to volunteer a lot, and during the times when I have stepped back in the past and been a participant instead, that has helped tremendously. I will start doing that more. Also, in the logical part of my brain, I know that it really is none of my business how someone else parents their kids, but I need to take some more deep breaths and let that go as well.
I have always set a great example for my kids by NOT allowing my frustration for these types of things show too much in front of them, but I'm noticing lately that I've slacked off in that way, and now I see my two youngest making the same little snide comments that they hear me make about those types of situations. I don't want to do that anymore, and that's not how I want them to behave.
I'm feeling better already just venting here,and seeing that I'm not alone. It helps so much to see that others have had similar experiences and have been able to consciously let that negative energy go. I'm going to try a few of these techniques. Wish me luck! As always, the PEAS are the best!
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Post by deekaye on May 4, 2015 18:38:29 GMT
...I have always set a great example for my kids by NOT allowing my frustration for these types of things show too much in front of them, but I'm noticing lately that I've slacked off in that way, and now I see my two youngest making the same little snide comments that they hear me make about those types of situations. I don't want to do that anymore, and that's not how I want them to behave...
Good for you for recognizing this behavior. Your children are going to grow up to be good people. Unfortunately, those parents that are raising little snots will have big snots to deal with when they are adults.
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Post by crazy4scraps on May 4, 2015 18:49:50 GMT
You've gotten a lot of good suggestions/comments already but I wanted to add another thought: Your children are learning from you and modeling their behavior on yours. I don't know how old your children are but there will come a time when they start to notice those parents/children with that frustrating sense of entitlement. This will be another teaching opportunity to have the "right and wrong" talks with our children. We went through a frustrating time with one of my daughters when the coach's kid would always get to play the entire game, get picked for prime positions, get to help decide the roster and get to pick the uniform colors/styles (I know, I know, sounds petty but that's a big deal to elementary-aged girls!). We talked alot that summer about playing fair, being a team player, disappointment, life, etc. This is happening already with my four year old. She is very much a rule follower like me, and notices right away when someone isn't being nice, playing fair or following the stated rules. All I can do is tell her that in our family we don't do things that way, and that she is not/we are not the boss of the playground/school/whatever and try to redirect and move on. DH had this quote stuck on our fridge for a long time, and I think it kind of applies here: My feeling is that if there is something in a situation that I can actually, realistically CHANGE, then I would try to change it. If not, all I can do is change my attitude about that situation because that is something that I can control.
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Post by jeremysgirl on May 4, 2015 19:00:39 GMT
I have a couple of people in my life who I can't avoid dealing with and I'm waiting impatiently for karma to bite them in the ass. Sometimes, when I am at the center of their mistreatment, it takes all I have to refocus my attention on the blessings that I do have in my life. That's what I try to do. In my case, I'm thinking their behavior comes from a place where they are not happy and they are lashing out at us. I really console myself with that thought, my life really is better. I am blessed and most of the time I am content with what I have and who I am. I can rest my head easy at night because I know that I am a good person who does try to be kind, even when it is killing me to be the bigger person. Doing the right thing is rewarding, especially when it is easier to do the wrong thing. I also pat myself on the back when I deal with their mistreatment in a way that is constructive and kind, when I am tempted to respond to them the way they act toward me.
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Post by trollie on May 4, 2015 19:08:59 GMT
Do the right thing and know that you are doing the right thing. You can't control the behaviour of others. While it can be frustrating at times, you are going to have to let this stuff go. Life is not fair and it's never going to be fair. Live your best life and remember that right is right even if no one is doing it and wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it....
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Post by Anita on May 4, 2015 19:10:35 GMT
I completely get it, and I also think it has to do with age. At least in part. When I hit my 40s I suddenly found myself less capable of dealing with other people's bullshit. It's like something snapped and I'd had enough of biting my tongue. Now I have to walk away in situations like that, or anger will consume me. It's probably not healthy. I find that I don't volunteer as often. It's a shame because I like being involved, but I'm so very glad my youngest graduates in three years. I'm so done with the drama.
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Post by mrsscrapdiva on May 4, 2015 19:38:27 GMT
Here is my take on it, but I have seen this from another side. My mom is like this, how you explained yourself. But as she has gotten older (she is 71) it has made her VERY bitter towards a lot of people and situations. I feel like it has robbed her of her happiness. She is a rule follower, honest, but not perfect. She is quick to criticize and perhaps when she was younger, she held some of it in but now she lets it out. It occupies her time "profiling" other people and pointing out the injustices. It's like she is just waiting for a situation to happen so she can comment on it. In a weird way, sometimes to me, it comes off as jealously or trying to make herself feel better. But really who it is hurting? No one but herself.
Okay, now that I said that part, I one would stop your negative thought process. Unless it truly does effect your personal life, you need to let it go. Enjoy what you are doing and don't let this negativity train in your thoughts continue. This advice is perfect
My counsellor told me always stop yourself and realize that everyone in the world, or the people & situations your encounter, while they seem like they are doing something bad or worse than you, on the flip side can do something better than you. I know that seems strange, but you need to build up your tolerance and find good in other things that will make you quick to see past the unfair or unjust situations. We are always going to have situations that are unfair, that part is never going to change.
It is good that you realize you need help with this, because I really think that when someone thinks like this, it is robbing them of a better state of mind. Adding all that extra stress on yourself is only going to hurt you.
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Post by coffeetalk on May 4, 2015 19:51:22 GMT
Always the rule follower, ''justice and fairness-for-all'' personality here too, so I totally get were you're coming from. Peri-menopause ramped my ''feisty'' into high gear and it felt like a perpetual case of PMS! Yikes!
I do notice when I am anxious, I have still less tolerance for people/situations. If your feelings have ramped up to a level that is causing you distress-and it seems they are-you might want to talk to your doctor, It may be anxiety or hormone levels, and medical issues can be ruled in or out.
I don't think you are a crappy person, not one bit. Please keep posting to let us know how you'e doing. Hugs!
ETA, I don't want to sound like it's always those crazy female hormones that make women ca-razy, but in my case it kind of did.
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Post by Crack-a-lackin on May 4, 2015 20:15:09 GMT
I, too, am a rule follower and I really struggle with fairness. I cannot stand entitlement and find myself getting enraged at even the hint of someone trying to skirt the system or unfairly get ahead. It's gotten worse with age, but with age I'm also also better able to control my reaction. I still get angry, but to a lesser degree and I more quickly let it go. Don't be so hard on yourself. We've all got things, and if this is the worst of yours I think you're doing OK
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