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Post by tduby1 on May 23, 2015 11:37:35 GMT
I can't imagine that Mike Huckabee came out in support of Josh a without some serious strategic discussions about his position. And, that scares the shit out of me. Hopefully his strategic analysts have this move wrong. Well After a look at the comments on that FB page I'm not so sure, there seems to be a very long list of people who have been sharing flavor aid with the Duggars I guess the question is how many That is how fundydom works. When a heavy hitter from inside screws up you sweep, excuse and never, ever point fingers or you are not "furthering the cause of Christ" but rather damaging it. Yes, you, the uninvolved Christisn are faulted with that, not the guilty party.
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Post by shescrafty on May 23, 2015 12:55:50 GMT
I hope all the folks who are disgusted by them and what Josh did are also writing to TLC. I have already seen lots of support for josh and people Posting support and rallying to let them back on the air. A squeaky wheel gets the oil, and I don't want the people who are stating that violating his sisters was just a youthful mistake to be the only voices heard.
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Post by Belia on May 23, 2015 12:59:46 GMT
Wow. Just wow. I have so many thoughts on this, but no way to pull them together into anything that even remotely makes sense.
One thought I do have- NO WAY were Anna and her father told of this when they started courting. I think that is a total lie told for damage control and in an attempt to try and spin the situation. I mean, in Anna's mind, what other choice does she have? She has 3 kids with him, one on the way, and TLC is funding their lifestyle. If the TLC gravy train stops, and she decides to leave Josh, then she is a single mother of 4 without any skills to support herself and her family.
I'm not excusing that choice in any way whatsoever.... if I were Anna, I would have been gone 10 seconds after I read that police report.... but then again, I was not raised brainwashed in the fundy mindset.
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Post by alittleintrepid on May 23, 2015 13:04:21 GMT
I can't imagine that Mike Huckabee came out in support of Josh a without some serious strategic discussions about his position. And, that scares the shit out of me. Hopefully his strategic analysts have this move wrong. Well After a look at the comments on that FB page I'm not so sure, there seems to be a very long list of people who have been sharing flavor aid with the Duggars I guess the question is how many That FB page doesn't give you an idea of how many comments have been deleted though. I'm pretty sure it's not an accurate polling sample! (Quietly prays under her breath)
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Post by freeatlast on May 23, 2015 13:17:09 GMT
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Post by moveablefeast on May 23, 2015 13:26:25 GMT
Now the investigation record has been destroyed. chicago.suntimes.com/nationworld/7/71/628770/arkansas-judge-orders-reality-tv-star-josh-duggars-record-destroyedI believe that people can change. I am a person who has been changed by Jesus. I would be a hypocrite to suggest that a person cannot be changed - regardless of his or her wrong actions. I too am grateful every day that Jesus saved a sinner like me. I never molested anybody, but my sin is like anybody else's. I do sympathize with that and from that standpoint I concur that God is good even to sinners like me - and Josh Duggar. I can't do otherwise. However, I am disturbed by how casually this has been treated by the family, by the authorities in Arkansas, and by people who would like to seek authority in our nation (Huckabee, I am looking at you). They haven't said, we took every available action to ensure that young women in our home were safe, or we took every available action to ensure that he received the treatment and counseling necessary for both Josh and the girls. They have acted like this was a minor incident where someone made some victimless and inconsequential errors in judgment. Perhaps it is different in private, I cannot be sure. it is also obvious that they have wanted to sweep this under the rug for many years and issue an apparently sincere but belated apology when it finally came to light. I am especially disturbed that the Duggar family can defend their son out of one side of their mouth - a young man who already demonstrated that he was a threat to the children in the family - and suggest out of the other side of their mouth that LGBT folks are a threat to our children - the vast majority of whom will never harm a child in any way. I don't think they get it. To them it is an abomination when someone unrelated to them enters a loving and committed same sex relationship, but it is a mistake that can be erased when one of their own molests his sister. No thank you.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 13:31:17 GMT
Now the investigation record has been destroyed. chicago.suntimes.com/nationworld/7/71/628770/arkansas-judge-orders-reality-tv-star-josh-duggars-record-destroyedI believe that people can change. I am a person who has been changed by Jesus. I would be a hypocrite to suggest that a person cannot be changed - regardless of his or her wrong actions. I too am grateful every day that Jesus saved a dinner like me. I never molested anybody, but my sin is like anybody else's. I do sympathize with that and from that standpoint I concur that God is good even to sinners like me - and Josh Duggar. I can't do otherwise. However, I am disturbed by how casually this has been treated by the family, by the authorities in Arkansas, and by people who would like to seek authority in our nation. They haven't said, we took every available action to ensure that young women in our home were safe, or we took every available action to ensure that he received the treatment and counseling necessary for both Josh and the girls. They have acted like this was a minor incident where someone made some victimless and inconsequential errors in judgment. Perhaps it is different in private, I cannot be sure. I am especially disturbed that the Duggar family can defend their son out of one side of their mouth - a young man who already demonstrated that he was a threat to the children in the family - and suggest out of the other side of their mouth that LGBT folks are a threat to our children - the vast majority of whom will never harm a child in any way. I don't think they get it. To them it is an abomination when someone unrelated to them enters a loving and committed same sex relationship, but it is a mistake that can be erased when one of their own molests his sister. No thank you. So revisionist history it is. So appalling that this was done. And yes the way the Duggar's have handled this is shocking. I'm saddened by how many think it should be left in the past and that we all make mistakes. Molesting five children is NOT a mistake, period.
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Post by hop2 on May 23, 2015 13:44:50 GMT
Well After a look at the comments on that FB page I'm not so sure, there seems to be a very long list of people who have been sharing flavor aid with the Duggars I guess the question is how many That FB page doesn't give you an idea of how many comments have been deleted though. I'm pretty sure it's not an accurate polling sample! (Quietly prays under her breath) yes but the poll I saw yesterday on if the show should remain on TLC was 52/48 yesterday and it 58/41 now that's now a huge spread. hollywoodlife.com/2015/05/21/19-kids-and-counting-fans-furious-tlc-cancel-show/
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Post by hop2 on May 23, 2015 13:50:43 GMT
Does anyone else find it weird that several of the people 'involved' in the investigation and 'counseling' of josh are also sex criminals?
It gives me an odd vibe. Who sends a sex criminal to another sex criminal to rehabilitate? Do they have a big good ole boy sex criminsl network to 'handle' each others problems?
The whole thing just doesn't add up.
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Post by stittsygirl on May 23, 2015 14:10:16 GMT
Does anyone else find it weird that several of the people 'involved' in the investigation and 'counseling' of josh are also sex criminals? It gives me an odd vibe. Who sends a sex criminal to another sex criminal to rehabilitate? Do they have a big good ole boy sex criminsl network to 'handle' each others problems? The whole thing just doesn't add up. I really think this is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to that whole fundamentalist group and their cronies. The culture is a perfect set up for abuse.
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Post by melissa on May 23, 2015 14:27:59 GMT
Unfortunately, according to her own published statement, Belia, Anna was aware prior to the courtship, as was her family. I would link her statement, but the wifi here is wonky. It's on multiple sites. I suppose the only ray of hope is that the rate of recidivism for teens is low. Not non-existent by any means, but low. I agree this whole thing stinks to the heavens! Someone posted an article on how these religious cultures teach that any sexual contact before marriage "ruins" a person. Michelle Duggar was quoted on this. So, have they been teaching these young girls that they are ruined? Unbelievable. Looking forward to buying the tell all of the first girl to get out of that family, if only to support her!
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Post by hop2 on May 23, 2015 14:34:03 GMT
You know melissa I totally agree that's got to be some book. If only they could break away. They'd definitely need support then as they've been prevented from developing any real world skills. I had heard that one of the girls wants to go to college but won't be allowed. That's so sad.
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Post by Kelpea on May 23, 2015 14:41:19 GMT
This is pretty terrifying, actually. Who knows how much more shit we're gonna keep finding.
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Post by stampbooker on May 23, 2015 14:48:53 GMT
Now the investigation record has been destroyed. chicago.suntimes.com/nationworld/7/71/628770/arkansas-judge-orders-reality-tv-star-josh-duggars-record-destroyedI believe that people can change. I am a person who has been changed by Jesus. I would be a hypocrite to suggest that a person cannot be changed - regardless of his or her wrong actions. I too am grateful every day that Jesus saved a sinner like me. I never molested anybody, but my sin is like anybody else's. I do sympathize with that and from that standpoint I concur that God is good even to sinners like me - and Josh Duggar. I can't do otherwise. However, I am disturbed by how casually this has been treated by the family, by the authorities in Arkansas, and by people who would like to seek authority in our nation (Huckabee, I am looking at you). They haven't said, we took every available action to ensure that young women in our home were safe, or we took every available action to ensure that he received the treatment and counseling necessary for both Josh and the girls. They have acted like this was a minor incident where someone made some victimless and inconsequential errors in judgment. Perhaps it is different in private, I cannot be sure. it is also obvious that they have wanted to sweep this under the rug for many years and issue an apparently sincere but belated apology when it finally came to light. I am especially disturbed that the Duggar family can defend their son out of one side of their mouth - a young man who already demonstrated that he was a threat to the children in the family - and suggest out of the other side of their mouth that LGBT folks are a threat to our children - the vast majority of whom will never harm a child in any way. I don't think they get it. To them it is an abomination when someone unrelated to them enters a loving and committed same sex relationship, but it is a mistake that can be erased when one of their own molests his sister. No thank you. I guess I don't understand how not announcing to the whole world that Josh was a youth sex offender is the same as sweeping it under a rug. It was not kept a secret among their own circle, people knew. He was not an adult. At 14 years old, there is still hope for change. So crimes committed by minors should follow them around their whole life? Julie
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 14:54:43 GMT
Now the investigation record has been destroyed. chicago.suntimes.com/nationworld/7/71/628770/arkansas-judge-orders-reality-tv-star-josh-duggars-record-destroyedI believe that people can change. I am a person who has been changed by Jesus. I would be a hypocrite to suggest that a person cannot be changed - regardless of his or her wrong actions. I too am grateful every day that Jesus saved a sinner like me. I never molested anybody, but my sin is like anybody else's. I do sympathize with that and from that standpoint I concur that God is good even to sinners like me - and Josh Duggar. I can't do otherwise. However, I am disturbed by how casually this has been treated by the family, by the authorities in Arkansas, and by people who would like to seek authority in our nation (Huckabee, I am looking at you). They haven't said, we took every available action to ensure that young women in our home were safe, or we took every available action to ensure that he received the treatment and counseling necessary for both Josh and the girls. They have acted like this was a minor incident where someone made some victimless and inconsequential errors in judgment. Perhaps it is different in private, I cannot be sure. it is also obvious that they have wanted to sweep this under the rug for many years and issue an apparently sincere but belated apology when it finally came to light. I am especially disturbed that the Duggar family can defend their son out of one side of their mouth - a young man who already demonstrated that he was a threat to the children in the family - and suggest out of the other side of their mouth that LGBT folks are a threat to our children - the vast majority of whom will never harm a child in any way. I don't think they get it. To them it is an abomination when someone unrelated to them enters a loving and committed same sex relationship, but it is a mistake that can be erased when one of their own molests his sister. No thank you. I guess I don't understand how not announcing to the whole world that Josh was a youth sex offender is the same as sweeping it under a rug. It was not kept a secret among their own circle, people knew. He was not an adult. At 14 years old, there is still hope for change. So crimes committed by minors should follow them around their whole life? Julie Nevermind
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Post by stampbooker on May 23, 2015 15:00:39 GMT
Unfortunately, according to her own published statement, Belia, Anna was aware prior to the courtship, as was her family. I would link her statement, but the wifi here is wonky. It's on multiple sites. I suppose the only ray of hope is that the rate of recidivism for teens is low. Not non-existent by any means, but low. I agree this whole thing stinks to the heavens! Someone posted an article on how these religious cultures teach that any sexual contact before marriage "ruins" a person. Michelle Duggar was quoted on this. So, have they been teaching these young girls that they are ruined? Unbelievable. Looking forward to buying the tell all of the first girl to get out of that family, if only to support her! If the rate of recidivism for teens is low, do you think that teens who commit this crime should have it follow them around for the rest of their lives? Julie
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 15:03:19 GMT
Unfortunately, according to her own published statement, Belia, Anna was aware prior to the courtship, as was her family. I would link her statement, but the wifi here is wonky. It's on multiple sites. I suppose the only ray of hope is that the rate of recidivism for teens is low. Not non-existent by any means, but low. I agree this whole thing stinks to the heavens! Someone posted an article on how these religious cultures teach that any sexual contact before marriage "ruins" a person. Michelle Duggar was quoted on this. So, have they been teaching these young girls that they are ruined? Unbelievable. Looking forward to buying the tell all of the first girl to get out of that family, if only to support her! If the rate of recidivism for teens is low, do you think that teens who commit this crime should have it follow them around for the rest of their lives? Julie I personally do. I am sorry but he molested FIVE GIRLS. That is no mistake or teen slip. That is a horrific crime and yes he should have to be registered as a sex offender in my mind. I care about the victims and him not creating more. He made this mess and his parents HID IT for well over a year.
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Post by padresfan619 on May 23, 2015 15:05:41 GMT
He certainly shouldn't be vilifying the LGBT community and say they will molest children when he is an admitted child fondler. And he shouldn't be spouting off about purity and chaste when he couldn't keep his hands off of his 4 year old sister.
4. Years. Old.
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Post by Country Ham on May 23, 2015 15:09:59 GMT
I have been thinking about this a lot. I wish wish I could say I would have one minor child arrested for fondling the breasts of my other minor child. I know I would press charges if it was anyone other then my own child (say a boy on a sleep over). BUT I do wonder if I wouldn't have some maternal instinct kick in to protect both my children somehow. I could see trying family counseling to try and handle it myself. Private counseling for him. Does one automatically lead to further abuse or worse abuse? I just couldn't imagine as a mama. Mama's often stand by and support their kids accused/guilty of a lot of crimes but to be the mother of both the victim and the offender,and both minors. I can't imagine the circumstances. It's easy to look back and say what should of been done in hindsight but I wish I could say I would respond perfectly for all involved. I also do not live my life under a microscope. Makes me sick to my stomach thinking about the possibilities.
ETA: I think when stuff like this comes to light so many years after the fact it's hard to think of him as a 14 year old boy and not a fully grown man.
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Post by Kelpea on May 23, 2015 15:17:32 GMT
Yup to all of this. And it just doesn't work to excuse the facts and to continue to ponder the FACTS and to excuse this asshole's (and his parents') behavior.
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Post by peatlejuice on May 23, 2015 15:19:03 GMT
Unfortunately, according to her own published statement, Belia, Anna was aware prior to the courtship, as was her family. I would link her statement, but the wifi here is wonky. It's on multiple sites. I suppose the only ray of hope is that the rate of recidivism for teens is low. Not non-existent by any means, but low. I agree this whole thing stinks to the heavens! Someone posted an article on how these religious cultures teach that any sexual contact before marriage "ruins" a person. Michelle Duggar was quoted on this. So, have they been teaching these young girls that they are ruined? Unbelievable. Looking forward to buying the tell all of the first girl to get out of that family, if only to support her! If the rate of recidivism for teens is low, do you think that teens who commit this crime should have it follow them around for the rest of their lives? Julie When that teen grows up to become a leading advocate of gay discrimination and claims that it is really the gays who are sexual deviants, yes, I do believe it should follow him. Those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, and he (and his family) have been throwing boulders for years.
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Post by tduby1 on May 23, 2015 15:23:20 GMT
Wow. Just wow. I have so many thoughts on this, but no way to pull them together into anything that even remotely makes sense. One thought I do have- NO WAY were Anna and her father told of this when they started courting. I think that is a total lie told for damage control and in an attempt to try and spin the situation. I mean, in Anna's mind, what other choice does she have? She has 3 kids with him, one on the way, and TLC is funding their lifestyle. If the TLC gravy train stops, and she decides to leave Josh, then she is a single mother of 4 without any skills to support herself and her family. I'm not excusing that choice in any way whatsoever.... if I were Anna, I would have been gone 10 seconds after I read that police report.... but then again, I was not raised brainwashed in the fundy mindset. I absolutely believe Anna and her father were told. I've seen some pretty horrible things excused and explained away as "a moment of sin", forgiven and expected to be forgotten in this religion.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 15:30:01 GMT
I have been thinking about this a lot. I wish wish I could say I would have one minor child arrested for fondling the breasts of my other minor child. I know I would press charges if it was anyone other then my own child (say a boy on a sleep over). BUT I do wonder if I wouldn't have some maternal instinct kick in to protect both my children somehow. I could see trying family counseling to try and handle it myself. Private counseling for him. Does one automatically lead to further abuse or worse abuse? I just couldn't imagine as a mama. Mama's often stand by and support their kids accused/guilty of a lot of crimes but to be the mother of both the victim and the offender,and both minors. I can't imagine the circumstances. It's easy to look back and say what should of been done in hindsight but I wish I could say I would respond perfectly for all involved. I also do not live my life under a microscope. Makes me sick to my stomach thinking about the possibilities. ETA: I think when stuff like this comes to light so many years after the fact it's hard to think of him as a 14 year old boy and not a fully grown man. Would you be able to contact the police if he had molested FIVE little girls, and four of them were your daughters? He didn't just fondle breasts. He "fondled" genitalia, too. On four of your daughters. For over a year. He fondled the "breasts" of a 4/5 year old. While reading books to them? Ongoing occurrences for over a year. He did not stop right away (if ever). Yes, it would be absolutely heartbreaking to be the mother of both the offender and the victimS. But, as a mother, I hope you'd be the kind of mother who would protect the victimS at all costs--even if that meant your son facing consequences for his CRIMINAL actions. Contacting the authorities would not mean that you had to stop loving the offender. I have no problem thinking of Josh Duggar as a 14 yo molesting a FIVE year old girl and four others. It's just as horrifying when a 14 year old repeatedly molests children as it is when a "fully grown" man does it.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 15:30:23 GMT
Unfortunately, according to her own published statement, Belia, Anna was aware prior to the courtship, as was her family. I would link her statement, but the wifi here is wonky. It's on multiple sites. I suppose the only ray of hope is that the rate of recidivism for teens is low. Not non-existent by any means, but low. I agree this whole thing stinks to the heavens! Someone posted an article on how these religious cultures teach that any sexual contact before marriage "ruins" a person. Michelle Duggar was quoted on this. So, have they been teaching these young girls that they are ruined? Unbelievable. Looking forward to buying the tell all of the first girl to get out of that family, if only to support her! If the rate of recidivism for teens is low, do you think that teens who commit this crime should have it follow them around for the rest of their lives? Julie This wasn't a crime. It was multiple crimeS, multiple felonies. So yes, in this case, given the repetitive nature of Josh's sexual criminal activity, I DO think it should play a part in his adult life. He's dangerous.
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Post by tduby1 on May 23, 2015 15:32:24 GMT
Unfortunately, according to her own published statement, Belia, Anna was aware prior to the courtship, as was her family. I would link her statement, but the wifi here is wonky. It's on multiple sites. I suppose the only ray of hope is that the rate of recidivism for teens is low. Not non-existent by any means, but low. I agree this whole thing stinks to the heavens! Someone posted an article on how these religious cultures teach that any sexual contact before marriage "ruins" a person. Michelle Duggar was quoted on this. So, have they been teaching these young girls that they are ruined? Unbelievable. Looking forward to buying the tell all of the first girl to get out of that family, if only to support her! If the rate of recidivism for teens is low, do you think that teens who commit this crime should have it follow them around for the rest of their lives? Julie Absolutely. The rate of recidivism is *low not non-existent. A chance of re-offending is a chance of re-offending, no matter how small. So, yup, it should follow them around. It's a small inconvience for someone who may never re-offend if it saves innocent victims from someone who might.
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Post by stampbooker on May 23, 2015 15:32:48 GMT
But the law (as far as I understand it)does not require children 14 years or younger to register as a sex offender for the crimes Josh committed.
So the family reported Josh's crimes to the church and to other friends, to the police, they didn't hide it. Neither did they announce it to the whole world as the law does not require them to.
I do not believe for a second that anyone, if their own 14 year old son committed this crime they would want them to be tarnished by it forever even if they were able to change and not continue their violations. I don't believe it.
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Post by knit.pea on May 23, 2015 15:34:55 GMT
He abused in 2002. He abused in 2003. He went to church counseling; not to a medical professional. No one pressed charges. The abuse was a felony (correct me if I'm wrong). (After his hard labor) He continued to live with those he abused. They were told to sleep fully clothed and in a group.
This is how this family handled a felony???
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Post by stittsygirl on May 23, 2015 15:36:00 GMT
Now the investigation record has been destroyed. chicago.suntimes.com/nationworld/7/71/628770/arkansas-judge-orders-reality-tv-star-josh-duggars-record-destroyedI believe that people can change. I am a person who has been changed by Jesus. I would be a hypocrite to suggest that a person cannot be changed - regardless of his or her wrong actions. I too am grateful every day that Jesus saved a sinner like me. I never molested anybody, but my sin is like anybody else's. I do sympathize with that and from that standpoint I concur that God is good even to sinners like me - and Josh Duggar. I can't do otherwise. However, I am disturbed by how casually this has been treated by the family, by the authorities in Arkansas, and by people who would like to seek authority in our nation (Huckabee, I am looking at you). They haven't said, we took every available action to ensure that young women in our home were safe, or we took every available action to ensure that he received the treatment and counseling necessary for both Josh and the girls. They have acted like this was a minor incident where someone made some victimless and inconsequential errors in judgment. Perhaps it is different in private, I cannot be sure. it is also obvious that they have wanted to sweep this under the rug for many years and issue an apparently sincere but belated apology when it finally came to light. I am especially disturbed that the Duggar family can defend their son out of one side of their mouth - a young man who already demonstrated that he was a threat to the children in the family - and suggest out of the other side of their mouth that LGBT folks are a threat to our children - the vast majority of whom will never harm a child in any way. I don't think they get it. To them it is an abomination when someone unrelated to them enters a loving and committed same sex relationship, but it is a mistake that can be erased when one of their own molests his sister. No thank you. I guess I don't understand how not announcing to the whole world that Josh was a youth sex offender is the same as sweeping it under a rug. It was not kept a secret among their own circle, people knew. He was not an adult. At 14 years old, there is still hope for change. So crimes committed by minors should follow them around their whole life? Julie Well for me it's the whole FLAMING HYPOCRISY of smug Josh and his smug parents working so hard to restrict the rights of those in the LGBTQ community and women (demographics I and my children are all part of) on both state and federal levels, yet they had this kind of skeleton in their closet. And if anyone believes that Josh, and most especially the girls he molested (the ACTUAL victims) received proper counseling from qualified therapists after the molestations, I've got some lovely beach front property in AZ to sell. If this story, 12 years in the past, helps prevent any other abuse in that family - thinking of the 15 kids still in the Duggar home and Josh's own children - AND yanks away the Duggar's bigoted and ignorant political platform, then that's a good reason for this to come out now. If more scrutiny is focused on these fundamentalist groups to prevent more abuse, then fantastic. If more families talk to their own children about recognizing abuse, and where to go for actual help, then that's another good thing that can come out of it. I do though feel extremely badly for Josh's victims, who now face so much public speculation, and possibly even blame from their families and religious community. I hope they recieve qualified help to move past this and realize none of it was their fault, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Post by anxiousmom on May 23, 2015 15:41:49 GMT
Call me naive but I am going to admit freely that I live in a world that confuses me on a daily basis.
The idea that this argument has devolved (for the most part) on the internet into an "attack on Christianity" is bewildering to me. I understand the idea of forgiveness, of allowing a person the freedom to change and redeem themselves...but I do not understand how it can be overlooked that this is a person who committed a felony and essentially received zero consequences for his actions.
How is that an attack on faith?
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Post by tduby1 on May 23, 2015 15:44:44 GMT
But the law (as far as I understand it)does not require children 14 years or younger to register as a sex offender for the crimes Josh committed. So the family reported Josh's crimes to the church and to other friends, to the police, they didn't hide it. Neither did they announce it to the whole world as the law does not require them to. I do not believe for a second that anyone, if their own 14 year old son committed this crime they would want them to be tarnished by it forever even if they were able to change and not continue their violations. I don't believe it. Julie I would hate to be in that position but at the same I would never hold my family or said son up as morally superior and I cerainly wouldn't encourage and would actively discourage him from calling whole segments of society sexual deviants. The just don't seem to grasp the seriousness of what he did. They are morons.
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