Gennifer
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Post by Gennifer on May 23, 2015 5:52:30 GMT
Read up on Gardisal. I don't think it's such an easy decision to make. Remember, any drug that you put into your body has positive and negative effects. Do your homework and be well informed. I will say nothing more. I actually did research this quite a bit, and didn't find anything (that I found credible) that advised against it. Care to share your sources?
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Post by marg on May 23, 2015 15:28:01 GMT
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Post by cyndijane on May 23, 2015 17:09:41 GMT
I don't have sons, but my friends do. I know some that didn't get it for their boys at first because they didn't realize that it would protect their sons. Now that they realize it will protect their sons, they have gotten the vaccine for their sons.
I plan to get it for my girls, to protect them and their future partners. I hate that mindset... So damn selfish. (I know it's not you, just people you know.) Just throwing this out there- but I read the original post as, "I didn't realize it was a vaccine that was given to boys". Now, we vaccinate in our house- the dr says, here's the schedule, and we say okay. But with Gardisil being relatively new- when it came out, I only heard of it being a "girl vaccine"- as in, it's only given to them. My DS are 5 & 7, it's not something I've even looked at yet. And I'll completely own living under a rock, and dealing with certain things when I need to, and not before. But in general, aren't vaccines given to protect the person being vaccinated from the disease?
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Post by melanell on May 23, 2015 17:15:27 GMT
We just had our 14 yo appt for dd. her dr recommended we wait as there is a new and improved vaccine which will cover nine strains of the virus making it like 90% effective. She suggested we come back in the fall to start the series when we get the flu shot. My son just had his 12 year old appt. and his doctor also mentioned that the improved vaccine and that it is not available yet. She also recommended we wait.
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Post by maryland on May 23, 2015 18:12:54 GMT
I hate that mindset... So damn selfish. (I know it's not you, just people you know.) Just throwing this out there- but I read the original post as, "I didn't realize it was a vaccine that was given to boys". Now, we vaccinate in our house- the dr says, here's the schedule, and we say okay. But with Gardisil being relatively new- when it came out, I only heard of it being a "girl vaccine"- as in, it's only given to them. My DS are 5 & 7, it's not something I've even looked at yet. And I'll completely own living under a rock, and dealing with certain things when I need to, and not before. But in general, aren't vaccines given to protect the person being vaccinated from the disease?
cyndijane, I completely agree with what you posted.
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Post by anonrefugee on May 23, 2015 19:25:39 GMT
AussieMeg thanks for posting melissa comments. We began and completed the series for my oldest at 15. Two of my best mom friends with same age sons are not. Their logic seems to fall somewhere between " I hate big Pharm" and "I don't want my baby to have sex - besides, it's for girls. .....what can you do with that non-logic? I'm pretty simplistic about this stuff- I AM NOT A DOCTOR - and I am not going to a doctor I don't trust. If she suggested it, and had good reasoning, I'm going to follow her advice. Otherwise, why bother going? What would have been the point of the "enlightened parent" research hours spent selecting her? The (now) almost 2 decade relationship?
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Post by anonrefugee on May 23, 2015 19:32:56 GMT
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Post by lisacharlotte on May 23, 2015 20:42:39 GMT
I have all the bad strains of HPV and had chemo/radiation for stage 2b cervical cancer. Please protect your children from this disease that keeps on giving.
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Gennifer
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Post by Gennifer on May 24, 2015 4:00:34 GMT
I hate that mindset... So damn selfish. (I know it's not you, just people you know.) Just throwing this out there- but I read the original post as, "I didn't realize it was a vaccine that was given to boys". Now, we vaccinate in our house- the dr says, here's the schedule, and we say okay. But with Gardisil being relatively new- when it came out, I only heard of it being a "girl vaccine"- as in, it's only given to them. My DS are 5 & 7, it's not something I've even looked at yet. And I'll completely own living under a rock, and dealing with certain things when I need to, and not before. But in general, aren't vaccines given to protect the person being vaccinated from the disease?
First and foremost, yes, we do it to prevent the person directly involved. However, some people can't be vaccinated, so we also do it to protect the "herd." In this particular case, the vaccine doesn't just help protect the person getting the shot, it also protects their sexual partners. I read her post as this: Her friends, thinking it only protected the partners, didn't worry about it. Once they found out it benefited their sons as well, they decided to get it. In other words, screw the girls.
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on May 24, 2015 4:47:31 GMT
(The reason I asked is because I thought the window for boys was smaller, and when I googled, the manufacturers say that the CDC recommends it through age 21 for boys. I thought your son was in his 20s, so I thought maybe his recommended window had closed, but nope. Still time if he wants it.)
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2015 4:51:03 GMT
I will ask him. Our doctor didn't vaccinate her boys (one is 18) so I don't think she is a proponent of it...
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Post by utmr on May 24, 2015 4:52:40 GMT
I love my kids. I don't want them to die from cancer. Or measles or mumps or anything else. So they are all vaccinated. On time, on schedule. If only there was a "teenage dumbass" vaccine...
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Nink
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Post by Nink on May 24, 2015 4:59:19 GMT
I will ask him. Our doctor didn't vaccinate her boys (one is 18) so I don't think she is a proponent of it... My kid is 30 so I don't have a dog in this fight, but you've mentioned a couple times that your Dr. hadn't done it so....shouldn't you make a decision on what's best for your DS and not what someone else does, family Dr. or not?
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GiantsFan
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Post by GiantsFan on May 24, 2015 5:17:34 GMT
I love my kids. I don't want them to die from cancer. Or measles or mumps or anything else. So they are all vaccinated. On time, on schedule. If only there was a "teenage dumbass" vaccine...This made me LOL. No one would second guess getting their kids vaccinated!
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2015 5:43:26 GMT
I wish I knew another peer parent who had their son vaccinated though. I can't remember how much it costs per shot here...$250? $300?
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M in Carolina
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Post by M in Carolina on May 24, 2015 13:18:04 GMT
I was already in my 20s when the Gardasil vaccine came out. I then found out at 23 that my 42 year old biological mother died of uterine cancer. Which put me at a much greater risk.
Yep, at 29 I have to have a hysterectomy for precancerous cells. While on this journey, I talk to my GYNs and find out that I don't need to be tested for HPV because I've only had one partner, and since neither of us had ever had any sexual contact with any other people, we were ok.
Until I asked about whether the pediatrician that raped me at 4 years old could have transferred this to me. He raped me with his hands, but he jacked himself off at the same time.
Yep. I was at risk.
I'm 29, and even though I had precancerous cells growing, it took almost 2 years to find a surgeon that would do the hysterectomy. The one that I had wasn't allowed by his CATHOLIC hospital to do my surgery, because, get this
I hadn't had children. It didn't matter that a parade of doctors went before the board and said that pregnancy would have killed me--not to mention NOT THEIR FUCKING BODY.
So, I'm waiting around with a time bomb, wondering if I would die like my mother, and if I had this HPV and gave it to my husband, who not only would have to bury ME but might have to bury another wife if he gave it to HER.
VACCINATE YOUR KIDS.
My dh and I both have IC--an immune bladder disease. I was diagnosed first. I could have given it to dh. There is a viral component.
If there was a vaccine that could have kept me from getting this or any other disease and spreading it to the people I love most, and my parents didn't choose to give it to me because it might not help me but would help my future partner, I'd be pretty pissed.
What will history think of us?
I also have Autoimmune and Postural Orthostatic Syndrome. Not as major of cancer. Life's a crap shoot, if there's something that would help, why not do it?
Both my mother and MIL had polio. They got it in the 50s. It wasn't that their parents didn't want them to have it, it just came a bit too late. They were so happy that their kids didn't have to deal with this. My mom missed half the 4th and 5th grade. She couldn't swallow the pulp in orange juice. She almost died.
My parents talked about measles and mumps and other awful diseases. We almost eradicated Measles. It was almost in just the history books, like smallpox.
Then people stopped caring about other people.
What will history think of us?
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scrappinmama
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Post by scrappinmama on May 24, 2015 14:46:11 GMT
I have 2 sons, and discuss this with our family doctor every year. My sons are 13, and 16, and both have Autism. If you were to ask my boys if they want the shot, they would say no. Let's just say that shots are not an easy thing to give them. It requires holding down the 13 year old. I hate the day we go in for vaccines, but we do it. We discuss the Gardisil vaccine every year. At this point, they haven't had the Gardisil shots. Last July, there was research that showed only one dose may be needed, so the doctor and I agreed to hold off until their next check ups in July. It's my understanding that they can get the shot until age 21, or before they become sexually active. So we will see if they get it this time. If it's going to require 3 seperate shots for each of them, we are going to need all the prayers and positive thoughts we can muster to get through it all.
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